It's funny when you think about it that such a huge company like Honda only made and makes FWD or AWD vehicles (apart from the S2000, the NSX, and some early S600/800 models).
That's a good point, though. Nearly everything from Jeep is/was 4WD/AWD, though I find it hard to believe that they did not have a RWD Cherokee for those southern city dwellers that just had to have one....
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I came from Europe in the late 1970s to take up where my very handsome and popular older brother left off--but while I looked something like him, nobody much liked me. The press called me overpriced and under-powered, and to this day I am viewed with contempt by most collectors. Sports Car Market magazine gives me an "F" rating and that *hurt*!
Move the timeline a couple of years earlier and the R107-series Mercedes (350SL/450SL/380SL) would also work. Another good bet would be the BMW 630CSi/633CSi/635CSi. Heck, pretty much anything with sporty intentions and '70s emission controls would qualify. But my money's on the Dino 308GT4.
EDIT: Wait, "looked something like him"--nevermind. The awful 308GT4 looks nothing like the 246GT (or any other Ferrari, thank God). On the other hand, the 308GTB does. . . OTOH, the 308GTB/GTS is cool, thanks to Magnum.
Yep, the 320i was dissed very badly by the American automotive press, and while it wasn't as bad a car as they said it was, it *was* so grossly overpriced that the accusation about BMW's cynicism for the American buyer's hapless slobbering over BMW products, and their sense of superiority over American and Japanese products, seemed well-founded. I think this criticism stung the company, and the 325 series was a result of "think again, BMW".
If we ignore the "family resemblance" then the '76 Porsche 924, all 95 hp of it, would fit too. As would the Alfetta GT, and a host of others I sorted through on the way to the first 3-series.
Although my name suggests I came before the rest of my family, I was actually the second last new nameplate released by my company in North America until the late 90s.
There were 5 generations of me over the span of about 20 years but my limited market and high price led to my eventual demise, not to mention that I was intruding on the sales of my brothers and cousins, yet shared no common parts with anyone in my family which made my production pricey.
Basically the Prelude was in a similiar price bracket as the Accord coupe and Integra/RSX with similiar performance.
Where the Accord coupe shared parts with the Accord sedan, and the Integra/RSX were based off the Civic, the Prelude was a standalone model and was much more expensive to produce. That with low sales resulted in its demise.
I think all Preludes were Japan-built...that had to keep costs high too. I remember from the mid 90s onward a loaded prelude could be kinda pricey, and was almost like a status symbol in the small town where I lived. I knew a girl who had (or her mother had, to be accurate) a loaded 92-93 4WS model. Don't see many of those around.
Basically the Prelude was in a similiar price bracket as the Accord coupe and Integra/RSX with similiar performance.
I would disagree with that with regards to the 2nd gen Prelude. Bought a new 84, had to wait 3 months to get, there was not a great volume being produced in Japan and they were in high demand. Test drove the Accord and Prelude on same day and Accord not close to Prelude in handling/dynamics.
Remember test driving small sporty 4-cyl cars from other Japanese makers and some small 4-cyl American brands back in 84. The Prelude was significantly better in handling, engine, smooth 5-speed, brakes than the other Japan makes. The fit, finish, paint, interior of the Prelude was excellent. The American brands were in a whole different league well below the Japanese in all meaningful attributes.
Road and Track did a full road test of the 2nd gen (don't recall if it was an 83 or 84) and was very impressed with it.
No, I agree with you in regards to the earlier Preludes. It's the last one that was in a similiar price and performace bracket as the RSX/Accord coupe.
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I think that applies to alot of the other Japanese cars that come to mind as classic and desirable (like the Cosmo, for instance).
Although, what about the 240z? They've been getting bigger numbers lately. Definitely going up in value, that is for sure.
oh, wait, you did say "sedan" though.
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I rate very highly time after time
And save my customers a pretty dime
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Soon to be followed by the Daewoo Leviticus?
(Anyone for the Chrysler Exodus? Didn't think so.)
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Do you know who I am?
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Oh wait..... :shades:
Dodge David?
Chrysler Canannite?
Subaru Smite?
I'm waiting for the 8-wheel drive Porsche Pharisee with real-time stock ticker.
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It's funny when you think about it that such a huge company like Honda only made and makes FWD or AWD vehicles (apart from the S2000, the NSX, and some early S600/800 models).
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EDIT: Wait, "looked something like him"--nevermind. The awful 308GT4 looks nothing like the 246GT (or any other Ferrari, thank God). On the other hand, the 308GTB does. . . OTOH, the 308GTB/GTS is cool, thanks to Magnum.
I'd give more hints but every time I think of one it's a dead giveaway...lemme think here....
Okay...Europe not UK
Current value very very low
Strong family resemblence
late 1970s
Yep, the 320i was dissed very badly by the American automotive press, and while it wasn't as bad a car as they said it was, it *was* so grossly overpriced that the accusation about BMW's cynicism for the American buyer's hapless slobbering over BMW products, and their sense of superiority over American and Japanese products, seemed well-founded. I think this criticism stung the company, and the 325 series was a result of "think again, BMW".
There were 5 generations of me over the span of about 20 years but my limited market and high price led to my eventual demise, not to mention that I was intruding on the sales of my brothers and cousins, yet shared no common parts with anyone in my family which made my production pricey.
What am I?
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You lost me. :confuse:
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Fintail got it though!
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Basically the Prelude was in a similiar price bracket as the Accord coupe and Integra/RSX with similiar performance.
Where the Accord coupe shared parts with the Accord sedan, and the Integra/RSX were based off the Civic, the Prelude was a standalone model and was much more expensive to produce. That with low sales resulted in its demise.
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I would disagree with that with regards to the 2nd gen Prelude. Bought a new 84, had to wait 3 months to get, there was not a great volume being produced in Japan and they were in high demand. Test drove the Accord and Prelude on same day and Accord not close to Prelude in handling/dynamics.
Remember test driving small sporty 4-cyl cars from other Japanese makers and some small 4-cyl American brands back in 84. The Prelude was significantly better in handling, engine, smooth 5-speed, brakes than the other Japan makes. The fit, finish, paint, interior of the Prelude was excellent. The American brands were in a whole different league well below the Japanese in all meaningful attributes.
Road and Track did a full road test of the 2nd gen (don't recall if it was an 83 or 84) and was very impressed with it.
Kept car for 195K miles and 14 years.
Selling my big brother
but it was his nephew
who owned this other
less popular model
perfect for college
if only buyers
of me had knowledge
Who am I?
Europe just got a more differentiated model with fender flares and I think it will be our 2011 Outback Sport.
Mitsu copied the idea and will soon offer an Outlander Sport.
I'm not sure why they copying given the OBS has not sold well.
Desperation?
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My simple design was well received
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For bonus points, which 3 nameplates exceeded the Beetle's sales numbers?
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