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Lexus LS 400/LS 430



  • whybuy1whybuy1 Posts: 43
    Does anybody know how to remove those ugly warning stickers on the LS430 sun visors without damaging the material underneath? Thanks in advance.
  • bolonybolony Posts: 10 has to be a retard to praise the stereo of an extremly ugly car. I will take beautifull styling over any stereo any time.
    I will take beautifull car wiht no stereo and put it in myself. No stereo can save it's ugly, ugly styling--it is the word that comes to mind every time I see one. Why should everyone have to settle for nice stereo and exellent appointments and ugly, ugly, ugly styling? Styling should take priority over stereo.
    Why not complain here and now about ugly styling
    of the car?

    ljfxl ----- may be if the styling were as good as the stereo you would see 5000+ cars sold instead of 3000.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Let's stop with the usage of the term "retard" - that certainly is offensive to many folks used in this manner.

    If you have something useful to contribute to this discussion, the folks here will be glad to discuss your thoughts with you. "Ugly" is obviously a matter of opinion, and just as obviously the folks who have purchased this vehicle will disagree with you. While you are entitled to your opinion of the styling, you cannot reasonably expect that you can convince others here that somehow your opinion is more valid than theirs.

    If your sole intent is to stir things up - which is certainly how it appears - I expect that the wise folks in this very respectful discussion will recognize that and follow the tried and true maxim of "don't feed the trolls."

    Sedans Message Board
  • flint350flint350 Posts: 250
    whybuy, this was covered earlier and I recall that most replies indicated it is very difficult if not impossible to do without spoiling the surface of the visor. You might want to scroll up about a month or so and look for the subject on this board.

    Pat Host, well said, 'nuff said - hopefully the msg was received.
  • flint350flint350 Posts: 250
    I don't recall, but did anyone ask for the full trunk open and close ability? That is, push a button from the cabin and the trunk lid fully opens and fully closes. Also, the smart key system that was originally discussed never made it into the current model. I think that would be nice - as you approach the car, it senses the key in your pocket and unlocks. Plus vice versa. Great for when your hands are full. Also, they really need to add Canada to the Nav. system. I was really surprised it was missing.

    Another oddity (to me anyway) is that the rear seats have memory but the front passenger seat does not. That seat is used more often in most cases, I would imagine. Another nice addition might be the type of cover they now offer on the SC430 for the nav/stereo screen. It would look very classy in that Lexus wood trim way.

    ljflx, watch out on that Fla. trip coming up. I-95 in Va. and N.c. is awash with troopers and, as my wife says, they don't appreciate that excuse about how the car really didn't seem like it was doing 80, it felt more like 50. It's true, of course, but they don't buy it.

    Lastly, I found another neat little feature in the nav - you can ask for "previous starting point" and it will take you back to where you started. Helpful if you began at an unfamiliar location, went somewhere else and need to return to the start point. Starting to ramble, I'm done.
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,690
    Put the words "full of" in front of your name and you will have an accurate description of yourself. By the way the Lexus LS430 is easily outselling the S and the 7 so those cars must need a lot more than a radio. But I won't stoop down to your level because I'll gladly say all three are beautiful cars - given their size - and all three are among the best cars money can buy. Now please start acting like a mature adult. This is the last time I waste my time on your idiotic posts.

    Flint350 - I'm flying. Would have drove if I went to Myrtle Beach which remains one of my favorite towns as it has so much for the family. I'm going to Long Boat Key. Have you been there and if so any recommendations. Last year I took a suite at the Ritz Carlton in Naples and had a great relaxing vacation. Lexus must have developed their curteous service on the Ritz platform. I'll never forget how the NY Times was on my door knob every day because a hotel employee overheard me talking about it. My kids believe vacation translates to tropical beaches. I think it'll be awhile before I see Alaska which is where I want to go.

    Lexus wishlist - I still want that dirt eating glass. Maybe also an inside beeper when you hit 80mph. I had it in the mid 90's in PA. and it felt like 50mph. Luckily I didn't have to explain it to anyone. Flint - you better get that radar system working.
  • drcomputerdrcomputer Posts: 82
    I was having an annoying problem with my LS430 and the steering wheel motors. When they would retract they would vibrate and make an annoying noise. I told the dealer this when I brought it in for the 5K and then again for the 10K service. Each time they "lubed the motors". It did nothing but make it worse.

    Interestingly enough, when I was at the dealer the other day to pickup a part I was chatting to the guy in the parts department about this problem. He asked if I had performed a "limits check" on the steering wheel. I had no idea what he was talking about and said no. He said that this usually fixes the problem. He gave me instruction on how to do this.... and it worked! No more vibration or noise. So for anyone else who is having this problem, here is how to perform the limits check:

    With the key in, move the control knob on the wheel to the outer limit of any direction until it stops. Once it stops, click the control knob EIGHT times in the same direction. After the 8th time, the wheel will move 1/4 inch more. You have just set the limit for that direction. Repeat the same thing for the other three directions on the wheel.

    I hope this information is useful. It sure made me a happier LS430 owner.
  • feverhartfeverhart Posts: 144
    Thanks for the info. My steering wheel was starting to groan on retraction. I applied your information; no more groan.
  • jarogjjarogj Posts: 16
    I have an interesting problem with my LS430. Every time I go over a speed bump or other similar upward bump in the road I can hear my shock absorbers in the front end compressing and making a noise. This is with very little speed mind you. It just a quick chucking sound, but it is a little surprising to hear this. It is noisey enough to hear in the cabin of the car. Anyway, I went to the dealer, they replaced it and it is still there. We even test drove two other cars. Same thing. Although some were worse than others. Anyone else out there experiencing this problem.
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,690
    You seem to have gotten a lemon. I don't have the problem and the suspensions on my cars handle bumps very well.
  • aloog8aloog8 Posts: 11
    This week I got a letter from a magazine company that said "Popular Mechanics will soon publish an Owners Report about the 2001 Lexus LS 430. Our report will be based on your completed questionnaire plus those from other owners. Your name was chosen at random by an independent survey organization. We have no connection with Lexus..."

    I don't know if you can volunteer to fill out a questionnaire, but if you want to try, call the magazine or write to the address on my envelope: "Popular Mechanics Owner Survey, Post Office Box 283, Spring Valley NY 10977-9923." I'll be watching for the results, hopefully in the Sept or Oct issues.

    Let me add my thanks to drcomputer for instructions on how to eliminate the steering wheel retraction groan (#1601). It worked.
  • carnaughtcarnaught 'zonaPosts: 2,342
    Anyone have the screen (map only, not audio or climate control)go blank except for the blinking locator icon? If so, what was the fix?

  • nofeernofeer Posts: 381
    Bolony? i feel your pain, and frustration. I don't have to bash MB. As a previous MB owner (2 vehicles ml320 and slk roadster), I too was angry that my lexus neighbor was getting oustanding reliability, service and saved 25k to boot. My frustration with my service and all those "gliches" forced me away from my dealer that is only 4 miles from my house and it's ease of getting service--but i only visit every 7500 miles and my wife likes to shop in that town. Now i have to drive 125 miles for lexus service. The wonderful thing is, bolony, and it comes across in your words--as one who can afford anything i want ....i want quality, service, and luxury. I didn't get to my position by taking second best and throwing money out the door. I was frustrated that my door handle fell off, that my car doen't have top technology (gps system and ergonomics). The problem is just as Pogo said "we have met the enemy and it is us" that's mercedes fault for not keeping me as a customer. they have more pressure on them. you don't get the angry rants and raves from "frustrated underserved" lexus owners, but from my own experience, MB doesn't deserve my $$$$ or loyalty--let them make it up, and let the market decide. My friends s500 still can't get his phone to work, and the electrical problems have sealed his fate. when his lease is up--no more MB....i don't know what he'll choose but MB lost another customer. when you don't like something research says you tell 7-10 people. Well MB i challange you to get me back.
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,690
    I know frustrated people like that too. They want the status of the MB but the quality of the Lexus. Easy decision - you drive a car not its status. Status is how you present yourself not how the things you own present you.
  • carnaughtcarnaught 'zonaPosts: 2,342
    Re. my post, #1607, I discovered the problem of no map. For some reason it had zoomed-out to 4 mi. Just zooming back in restored my map. Voila, no more problem(s). That's the difference between Lexus and other makes. With the others you have to go in to the dealer to fix the problem, less so with Lexus.
  • flint350flint350 Posts: 250
    Sorry, but I don't know too much about Longboat Key. I've been to the general area and am planning a visit a little further south at Captiva Island later on. I have heard of the Longboat Key Club as a nice golf resort facility and also of the (I think) Colony Beach which is a tennis oriented resort. If you have a car and the wanderlust, a short trip north to Tarpon Springs, there is a restaurant I would recommend. It is called Louis Pappas Famous Restaurant. It was started and owned by the former chef to General Blackjack Pershing during WWI. I've heard Tarpon Springs referred to as part Greek Isles and a New England fishing village with a southern charm.

    Now if you only took your LS, the nav system could probably tell you all of this! Have a good (if hot) trip!
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,690
    The Colony is where I'm at starting 10 days from now. Alas I will be driving a Sable - no nav or ml. What the heck - I always thought its Ford Taurus sister drove pretty well. No way will I take that Leganza that Nealm1 got stuck with.
  • bitkahunabitkahuna Posts: 206
    I'm surprised he or she is still alive, although I guess you didn't say that, you just said it 'was' started and owned (don't know if it still is). Anyway, that caught my eye :-)
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,690
    Anyone know if it is still in business in the Tampa area and if so is it as great as ever. Had a fantastic t-bone steak there and kept the menu as a souvenir many years ago. Never could forget how they devoted a whole section of the menu to tell you why a rib steak was a Prime Rib cut which they refused to classify as a steak.

    Flint350 - WW1 chef ... huh. That aviation seems to keep you on top of everything. Did you really get a speeding ticket? Radar, lots of luck and an occasional great sense of timing has kept me away from speeding tickets for some time now. Last one I got was in my 1974 Chevy Monte Carlo going 71mph under the Verazano bridge in Brooklyn. The next day my college buddies told me that was a police training ground - at least back then.
  • carnaughtcarnaught 'zonaPosts: 2,342
    is still there, but it is Bern's Steakhouse. The upstairs dessert place is the best!
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,690
    I remember that dessert area - it was something. I knew I had the spelling wrong. Thanks. I will definitely check it out as I know I'll make a trip to Tampa on this vacation.
  • bolonybolony Posts: 10
    nofeer, ljflxj, that's funny, but go to the MB S forum and read about lexus 430 problems from LS owners, I think they are confused.
    No one, let me repeat, no one was working with the hammer on my car, he-he-he. Everyone should read those posts. I had two squeaks left and right back seat area two month ago and they were diagnosed and fixed in under 1 hour, simple lubrication did it, no need to hammer and install nuts and bolts like in new ls430, you have to admit---that's funny.
    I have almost 50k on my almost 3y.o S500(previous body style) and had not one problem, not one, no electrical problem and no hammering needed. The only time when fear of having trouble with the car appears in my mind is when I read posts at edmunds and think:
    "Is that going to happen to me because it happend to these people?" But there are no more then 20-30 people in the MB S forum and may be 5 that always post and may be 5-7 posts total about problems with the MB S-----JUst as many as had been posted with LS in the last 7-10 days.
    It is I who feels your pain and I love my dealer and I only had to change service department "assistant manager" once.
    NOw I'm out of here because all this talk of problems gives me the crrrrrrrrrrips. I'll be back if and when hammering will have to be done to my car.
    .........and no, I don't need navigation or carphone---carphons are pure waste. My Verizon serves me well in and out of the car in US and Voicestream (GSM, oh yeah) when I'm in Europe.
    These forums can cause pain-----after reading all posts about waxing and washing the car yourself I bought afew things and did it once myself, I'm still in pain thinking about it. Put everything in the trash and back to my trusted carwash in Northern Virginia $14 vacum, clean windows and dashbord and wash or $19 for same plus wax and clearcoat sprayed. Don't no about you but works just fine for me once a month. Good deal I'm very happy.
    Now I have to go and work on my English, love you all but hate the shape of your car---it is worse then washing and waxing yourself.
    Two reasons why I can not buy LEXUS---the so called GOLD treatment on the outside if one wants it and the name, LEXUS---sounds like a name of a pornstar.

    ljkxlk-----as for the STATUS of the car I think it wears out pretty fast for the owner and remains only in the eyes of people like you ---people like you are the once who keep the status of our cars beyond 1-3 month. How my car drives is another matter, I enjoy it every day.
    I use MOBIL1 and only for my car, that's how much I love it!
  • pcbrspcbrs Posts: 57

    Thank you both for your advice, once again. I'm probably going to make the purchase soon. Do you know if there will be any significant changes in the 2002 model? I'm wondering if I should wait until January, since the dealer will be taking orders in October.


    You're right, your english needs a lot of work. Please post again when you can formulate your thoughts more coherently.

  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,690
    I haven't seen anything on the 2002 model. I'm sure they will make some minor changes that are on the wish lists posted in the past month. I read in the Friday NY Times that Asian LS430's don't require door keys and have some type of MB's "keyless go" (guaranteed Lexus will do this better than MB) so you may get that here as well.

    Bolony - goodbye and good riddance!
  • agent0986agent0986 Posts: 64
    has anyone experienced any problems, minor or major, on any LS430 with a production date of April 2001 or after? By April, Lexus should of taken care of any problems that existed on the earlier cars? or does the factory leave the production the same way as the ones made in october, november? just curious. if anyone knows
  • nofeernofeer Posts: 381
    Not a creak, groan, mistep, glich, no nothing has happened since i got mine in early december --8500miles and just bliss. ok ok i do like the MB cruise control better. love the service at columbus lexus. just as close to perfection as i have ever had (my honda civic ex was perfect except for road noise). THIS IS THE ONLY CAR I HAVE DRIVEN THAT MY WIFE CAN FALL ASLEEP IN--NOW THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING.

    BOLONY-- aren't you glad you don't have to worry about it. stay with MB, continue the lovefest, leave me to lexus and my 20k.
  • ljflxljflx Posts: 4,690
    problems - 0% - as in none; enjoyment - 100%; 11.2k miles on pine; 6.5k miles on silver. Best Lexus LS car ever.
  • bolonybolony Posts: 10
    Caution, caution, caution----that "keyless go" for the Lexus may require hammering!!!
    I'm off to Spain for two weeks please keep the peace here.
    I think this forum is much better then MB S---all they talk about is washing, waxing, buffing....buffing, waxing, detailing.......Meguiar products versus Turtle Wax---booooring, booooring, boooring.

    I'll take hammmmmmmering of and installation of "nut's and bolt's"(see posts above or in MB S forum) into Lexus over discussing wax products any time. You really know how to have good time here.
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