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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
My dealer indicated otherwise but its good to know that it can be done. Logically it should be possible as the manufacturer still books the sale and at the same margin. But I imagine that negotiating a cap cost with a dealer when Volvo Finance is actually financing the car can be problematic? Isnt it possible that even if the lower cap cost gets plugged into the lease that the interest rate and/or residual can get changed and so they make it up on higher payments? The printouts that one gets as a consumer do not disclose all the information one needs, like interest rate.
Well, certainly, you have to keep on top of all that stuff when negotiating and when you go in to sign the paperwork. I can honestly only remember 2 times when the interest rate on the final paperwork was the same as was negotiated on the sales floor, so I ALWAYS keep a close watch on the details.
You should pop over to the Lease Questions board. There are hundreds of posts from folks who have negotiated the price of a vehicle they are leasing.
As far as the terminology, I'm not too clear on it myself. I only ever leased once in my life and it was before I knew what I was even looking for in a lease contract. In any case, as far as I know, the price is the price, but the Cap Cost is the price plus any fees that are being charged on the deal but you aren't paying up front. So, for instance, you can roll the bank fees on top of the price so that your cap cost is the price plus those fees.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
But you can see the interest amount on the "Rent Charge" line on the contract.
Now if I could BUY by car at the market price rather than the inflated residual value - then that would make sense. My residual after 4 years is $15950 (just the 2.4 non turbo) - but can I buy it for $12,000 or $13,000? Will Volvo Finace actually negotiate? I have heard two answers, yes and no? Which is it?
It depends on the cars value.
Some Volvo's, like wagons do well at auction others like S80's don't do as well and can be bought for less than the stated payoff.
Here in Canada the VIP program offers 7yrs/160,000 kilometers (100,000 miles).
Does anyone know how good the VIP program is? I don't want to have to fight and argue over every claim like some people have to do with 3'rd party warranties.
Also my dealer wants $2879 (Canadian dollars) plus taxes for 7yrs/160,000 kilometers with zero deductible. Does anyone know if this number is negotiable and how much I might be able to knock off of the price?
thx,
SnowyVolvo
1) key off
2) press and hold tripmeter reset button
3) turn key to position 2 for 10-12 seconds
4) when "service" light flashes
5) release button and remove key
6) done
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
1. Put key in the ignition and turn to accessory position (I)
2. Put your trip odometer to T1 (take a look at the milage).
3. Press and HOLD the trip meter until it resets. Don't let go!
4. While continuing to hold the trip odometer, switch your key to the run position and watch for the previously displayed milage on the trip meter to return.
5. Once it returns, let go of the trip meter reset button and put the key back to the off position.
Or, how about this one?
After the oil change you can rest your service light by; ignition key to position I, push in and hold the odometer rest button (use your left hand), move the ignition key to position II, wait until you see the service light blinking, then release the odometer rest button.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
- climate package
- premium package
MSRP: $34910
Invoice: $32995
Less $2000 (manufacturer incentive)
Net: $30995 - is this a good deal?
What else does it have? MSRP with destination for a 2.5T with just premium and climate is $34,435. So you've got another $475 there somewhere.
Anyway, there's certainly nothing wrong with invoice minus rebates. I see no room to wonder if you left anything on the table, that's for sure.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I have a 2002 S60 AWD with 17" wheels and the low profile Pirelli's. I have replaced two tires and one wheel secondary to potholes in 31,000miles of driving. I have two slightly bent rims at the moment. Since my S60 is a lease vehicle, I have stuck with replacing original equipment and have learned that AWD, winter potholes and sport packages are not a good combination.
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Thanks D
I had a 4 hour ride 2 weeks ago and I was not tired at all. Seats are just perfect.
I hope this doesnt mean Ford will just stick a Volvo on the X-type. The current Mondeo platform will be no match for competition from Lexus, Acura, Infiniti, and the Germans by the time '07 rolls around. Its no match NOW.
The next S60 will be P1X platform.
The Mondeo will move to a version of that platform, like the Euro spec Focus.
Will be a very different car. Think S80 vs Ford 500.
From what you hear on a Volvo grapevine, what is coming out first, the P1+ based S60 or P2EX based S80?
And answering to the lexusguy - even if three brands share the same base (platform) there is a lot that differentiate C1+ that is used for a new Mondeo from P1+ that is going to be used for S60.
Same as there is a significant difference between the "inner" body of Ford 500 and S80, even if both cars have derived from the same platform.
New S80 is scheduled for the fall of 2006.
Next S60 is approx. 1 yr later.
Platforms are just blueprints, materials and execution make all the difference.
There are signifcant differences between the 500 and the S80.
THANKS!
Also, does anyone have any idea of how a lease pricing changes if you choose 10K miles, 12K miles or 15K miles per year? Assuming the same adjusted cap cost for a car, how are monthly lease figures adjusted for the 'extra' miles on a lease? Thanks!
If someone were considering an S60 w/ Automatic Transmission, but wanted as much zip as possible (I realize that a manual would be better), yet drives in the Michigan snow quite a bit - Would you recommend a T2.5AWD or a T5 with DynStabTracControl?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Warranty issues? or just plain "don't do it"?
I'm guessing the 2.5TAWD is a little better than T5 with DSTC in snow but...
I'm asking about the pick up over dry roads. I'm wondering if in an automatic, under real world conditions (factoring in torque, etc) the T5 at 257hp is much different than the 2.5T at 208hp...
My totally uneducated and off-the-top-of-my-head guess is that the T5 will be about .75-1.0 sec quicker to 60 mph.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I've owned both.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S