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The price before rebate is below invoice. I always have trouble trying to figure out true invoice because of the carpeted floor mats and door sill protectors are listed as a charged option "CF." This adds over $100 to the price, but it is not listed in Edmunds as an option. Does anyone understand this or why it is not listed as an option in edmunds?
I also purchased the 7yr/100K/No deductible warranty from toyota financial for $825. I had a great experience through the dealer internet department and was by far the best overall buying experience I have ever had. It is a great van and drives like a champ!
I would like to buy a Sienna with the following :
- Leather
- Navigation
- DVD
- 8 Seats
Is my assumption correct that I will have to go for a XLE with package 8. Also how much will it cost me.
I am looking at Honda Odyseese and the EX w Leather Nav. & DVD comes to around 31,000.
I am a old time Toyota customer so I want to check at TOYOTA before I make a final minivan decision.
PLEASE HELP...
Does your extended warranty also include the provision for refund of the ENTIRE purchase price ?
Option CF "Carpet Floor Mats/Door Sill Protector" was listed on my Sienna LE factory window sticker having an MSRP of $ 214 for the Denver Region. I, too, wonder why Edmunds pricing does not list option CF.
Is there a way to find out if the CF option is included in the Edmunds base invoice price? Is there someone here at Edmunds that can be asked? Is there a moderator that can help us out?
Z1 Preferred Premium Accessory Package
Includes carpeted floor mats, door sill protector, cargo net and first aid kit. MSRP $292 Invoice $187
It looks like the CF would be a PIO (Port Installed Option).. I'm sure it isn't included in any base price on Edmunds... and finding out the dealer's cost would be difficult, unless they show you their invoice... If you are looking for a ballpark, just figure 85-90% of MSRP for the invoice price.. Even if you are wrong, you'll only be off by $10-$20...
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Maplewood Toyota: $24798 Fast and straightforward.
Carlson Toyota: $25010. This one is closest to my house. Said I would like to make it happen with them but math rules.A little back and forth with e-mail and the guy acts like he can't move (any more and we are losing money story).
Rudy Luther Golden Valley: $24719 Interet woman gave up on me when I countered too low - handed me to the used car dept. Told that guy she gave up soon and to call me back. She hasn't.
Toyota City: Visited here one night to look - another day to drive. Very informative and no pressure. This dealer is close also and is a Luther dealer, which has been good experience (the dealer, not the 98 Explorer that I bought from them). Doesn't seem to have an Internet person, cause nobody responds.
Burnsville: After the test drives (went down the street and drove the EX-L), my wife favored the Sienna and decided we need the 8th seat. One quote came back from Burnsville quickly though a kind of slick bid form. The ignored my offer though and listed $25047, which I suppose is like 24847 to a to a with a LE 7.
I am going to try to make something happen this weekend using all the great knowledge I have picked up here. Where did you make your good deal? I am trying to achieve $26,000 OTD which means I am $700 off, knowing that is a tall feat, but the the heck - last days of the month in February?
The only thing I can't seem to understand: How come those east coast dealers, Fitz and Darcars, can beat Mpls by $700 - $1000? Is the shipping different? Volume?
Again, you must have everything planned out ahead of time including warranty, financing before making your offer. It seems that if your offer is around holdback or below (before rebates), your chances go down significantly. The Sienna is great, especially with the 8 seating.
BUT, it may not be worth it to fly over and drive 12 hours or more to save a few hundred dollars..assuming your time is valuable...hehe...
Good luck!
The rest of the page contains more information on how to receive the entire purchase price "IF the eligible contract has expired by time or mileage, no claims have been paid on any of the Service Contract Benefits and a request has been made submitted to PREMIER SELECT at the address listed below within 30 days of Service Contract Expiration".
This policy provides a nice incentive for me to keep my 2006 Sienna LE for 7 years. Cost more than the DaimlerChrysler extended warranty the original owner got on my 2002 T&C LX but has ZERO deductible with full purchase price refunded if not used while DC agreement is $ 100 deductible with pro-rated refund less $ 50 fee if cancelled before 7 years expired.
And what are people paying for Sienna XLEs and/or Limiteds? Are they paying more than CE/LE customers, especially since the CE/LE models seem to be far more common...
Percentage-wise, the discount from MSRP on them is about the same as other Siennas.
Do you think if I went to a bigger city such as Atlanta that there might be more Limiteds available?
AWD limited WITHOUT DVD/NAV for 35,800 (msrp is 38,985, invoice is 34,761). This is before any rebate.
After reading this msg board, this sure sounds high. If the price won't come down, what extras are the easiest to get thrown in? Extended warranty? Mats, sill protectors, etc (big deal!!)?
Thanks for any advice. I'm paying cash, no trade in, no financing.
1) Expand your search radius - there's is ALWAYS someone who will sell for less.
2) Don't tell them how you're paying for it, especially here - cash is not, in their eyes, a positive thing.
3) Don't mention the lack of a trade until you get a quote.
4) Any extras "thrown in" are usually just to close a deal (unless already installed) and not really of significant worth.
I was at a dealer yesterday that had a 2005 XLE AWD w/117 miles on it. (new never titled)
They seem to be very interested in getting rid of it.
The sticker is ~36K. I can look up the invoice price but I am not sure what would be a fair price considering it is a year old for all practical purposes....
Any thoughts? I might be willing to but it if I could get a really good deal, otherwise, why would anyone but it over an '06??
My conclusion has been that it usually doesn't make much, if any, real difference IF the spread is, say, $2000 to $3000 or more. While it is true that one is a year older, bear in mind that (depending on your annual mileage) you may get some of it back later on resale because the van will have low mileage for the year. Adding that to a lower initial cost is a winning combination for many people.
On the other hand, if the difference is small, it makes more sense to get the newer model as it will always be worth more.
1. Good price, no negotiations, no hidden prices, very nice salesperson. Sienna LE with pkg #3 - $23,700. With Florida tax (6%), Florida title, dealer fee ($99 and you can skip it if you want to do the paperwork yourself) I walked out paying $25,450. Prices vary because cars are discounted as they sit in the lot. Mine was priced just over $24,000 and by the time I bought it was marked down $300.
2. Most of the questions and dealings were handled over the internet, phone and DHL. They mailed all the paperwork so that I could sign it because my name would be on the title and I wasn't flying up.
3. My husband flew up on a Saturday morning for $112, took the metro to the dealership and spent 2-3 hours checking out the car and signing the paperwork. Then he fully enjoyed the 1000 mile ride home and got home Sunday 9pm.
4. Post sales, the salesman will still answer my questions and calls.
I could never get a clear picture of the price down here because it was going to take time and much frustration to get one but I am willing to guess that I saved anywhere from $3-$5 thousand dollars by buying out of the area. One dealer down here had a sticker price on an LE with a $5,000 Market mark up. No rhyme or reason, just because they think they can.
Hope this helps anyone looking in South Florida (probably anyone in the SE distributorship).
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What is the latest version? Is this the type of thing I can ask as a throw in? i.e. please get me the latest nav data and call me up when it comes in so you can install it in my new Sienna?
Thanks for the help!
Dan
Could you tell me what dealers/care renters in Boston area sell used Sienna 2004? I asked around some but they said people still do not trade in much. I'm looking for XLE AWD leather version, with still valid waranty.
(the alternative for me is to buy new Odyssey EX-L 2006 for around 27K. But I think a used Sienna with equivalent features is much cheaper)
Thank you in advance
Siennas are not traded in too often, so you might just have to get the Odyssey. CarMax might have a few used Siennas in their system, but if you want to be really specific you may have to wait for a while.
2. I used local dealers (Michigan) recommended by Costco and Sam’s.
3. The posts of good deals on Siennaclub and Edmunds.com were very helpful to me.
4. I also researched on carsdirect.com and fitzmall.com (almost lowest price, but does not have BZ package).
5. I expanded search to include Ohio, Indiana, Chicago, and Boston. Most of my emails were answered promptly. Negotiation on email was more pleasant and less stressful than at a dealership.
6. Boch Toyota South near Providence gave the lowest quote $22,997. When I was ready to fly over, the van was sold and the new quote for a upcoming van was $23,940. I decided it was not worth it.
7. Three Chicago dealers were willing to sell at $24,132 - 24,232 on vans in stock. From where I live to Chicago is only 4.5 hr train ride. I was ready to go, but preferred to buy from a local dealer.
8. Most Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana dealers would not go below $25k. This may reflect the higher cost for smaller dealerships comparing with big ones in large cities, plus the lower rebate in Michigan/Ohio region ($650 vs. $750 in Chicago).
9. Sunshine Toyota at Battle Creek offered $24,750, and then reduced to $24,500 when the general manager was involved. Their reps at Internet sales department were very helpful, yet not pushy. Even though it was higher than $24,132, I decided to take it to save the hassle of traveling to Chicago. If the weather was nice, I might bring my family to Chicago to get it. But it is still winter now at Michigan. The OTD price is $26,173.
On a related issue, most dealers gave me KBB trade-in value (~$4000) for my old minivan in excellent condition. One local Honda dealer gave me $3000 for the trade-in and suggested that I should sell it at $2-3000 under the private party value. I had to laugh at it and did not want to deal with this dealer any more. I sold my van at $6900 ($500 under KBB) one week after I advertised it. I had five people wanting to see the van.
This is also printed in RED on every page... Thanks.
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Say you live in Boston, and you went to your local CarMax. You didn't see any Siennas, but the salesperson looked in the entire CarMax inventory all over the nation and found 3 Siennas that match your criteria. You can have them transferred into your local CarMax for a fee between $300-$1000 depending on distance.
Their website, link title has an inventory search tool so you can search the entire nation's inventory.
Just want to validate that I have the right price offer.
Here is the best offer I have soo far.
Toyota Sienna LE PKG 1. Colour Silver. 7 seater.
$23,268(Includes destination charge, floor mats and cargo net-Includes all rebates)This price does not iclude taxes.
I have to thank this forum for invaluable insight.
Please do let me know what you all think about this deal.
Also does Toyota recommend rust proofing and scotchguarding the interior.Any opinions?I don't want to waste my money on something which is not at all required.
Thanks
All communication was done via email. A very pleasant experience overall (never thought I would ever say that about a car purchase).
If you insist on rustproofing and scotchguard I wouldn't get it done at the dealership.
06 Sienna LE base model
sticker = $ 25,949
negotiated price = $ 24,300
36 months/12k miles
1st month + plates = $ 516.00
No security deposit (already a leasee from Toyota
monthly payments = $ 371.00
Also, I have 3 payments left on a 03 Highlander @ $ 330.00/month. I am told that this figure is rolled into the above price. I was also quoted a "trade-in" on this vehicle at $ 17,000. 03 Highlander has 23k miles and is in excellent condition.
Thank you for your response(s).
This was through Costco done at Hamer Toyota. EXCELLENT EXPERIENCE! Wonderful service, friendly staff. Would definitely return again.
Doing the transaction that way keeps it far more simpler and gives the dealership less chances to confuse you.
July/Aug or do I have to go to Sep/Oct?
Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks.
Inasmuch as Toyota did some upgrades on Sienna for '06, the '07 model should be virtually unchanged.
deal offered today: $22,579 after rebate
includes destination fee, doesnt include taxes,license,doc fees.
WHAT REBATE? does anyone think this is a good offer? any suggestions of financing?
I live in san digeo county
Thanks for the feedback. I suspect they will upgrade it to the 3.5L engine - even camry has it now and it will appear more competitive with the Ody.
1. Fitzmall
2. Carmax
3. Costco (?),
4. Local dealer...
I can happily opt with minimum option CE 7 or 8 passenger. Then I found that Fitzmall is by far way better than any other options as it is offering even close to 21k (only for car). Even if I include doc fee of 99, it is still in 21k range... Discourating is it is too far away from my location (Fitzmall is in Washington area, while I am in Detroit MI area...)
I can take a day off from my work and fly to there on Friday and drive the car for 5~600 miles back to my home town however,...
I personally think that if I can get it at around 22k range including all doc fees and hidden fees (at 1k more than Fitzmall price), I would find it from locally. But local dealers in my area, all charge those interesting fees and fees and fees (advertisement fee etc). they even charge something like dealer loan fee even if somebody (my buddy) made a one time payment for his 05 Sienna early last year... As a result, his 05 CE 7 Passenger OTD price became 25k.... they advertised they can sell it at in-voice then, they made up for them by charging those interesting this and that fees.... This is actually one of the significant factor that Toyota dealer pushes me away toward honda dealer. When I bought my 3 honda/acura's, the deal was much simpler and easy, no hidden fees or advertisement fee things, just car price + 6% tax + title + $99 doc fee (which I consider is just a tip for the dealer ^^;), the figure of which are all provided before even visiting the dealer shop by phone or email.
This time, I will try Toyota Sienna, if anyone can get me more advise regarding
1. Costco program experience
2. Fitmall experience for out-of-state buyer
3. any good local dealer in South Michigan area
4. Any alternative better way of purchasing brand new sienna....
Thank you in advance.
Best thing to do here is to directly shop their price against your local stores. Given that their prices are posted on their website (at least the last time I looked), it should be clear to your local dealers that you're not blowing smoke when you ask for a competitive price.