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Give tthe dismal economy and the unique situation Olds is in, I fully expect that the incentives will likely improve after the currebt crop expires.
It is unimaginable that they would reduce them....
I never got an Olds loyalty coupon, though. (I guess because I bought after the shutdown was announced...)
Same but backwards..
Just got an invite to the 02 Honda CR-V launch party in 2 weeks. May as well go and enjoy the free food and drink. Apparently you get a free gift also!
Largest purchasers for other cars: Impala=mature sensible, Grand Prix=tie between practical enthusiast and domestic indulgents, Accord=practical enthusiast, Maxima=affluent enthusiast, Camry=mature sensible.
The APEAL rating has eight categories: engine/trans performance, cockpit/instrument panel, ride/handling, HVAC, comfort/convenience, sound system, seats, styling/exterior. Within each category, between 9 and 17 items are rated.
Looking at these ratings, it becomes clear why the Intrigue doesn't sell very well. It ranks 23rd overall in the 25 car group. With the exception of engine/trans, the ratings of almost all the individual items in each of the other seven categories has a mean score "significantly worse than" the group average. In four categories (ride, HVAC, comfort, sound), every single item is rated significantly worse.
So, gentlemen, we, as Intrigue owners/lovers are not only in the minority but obviously out of touch with reality ;-)
Maybe the intrigue should have been included in the test.
I'm surprised I never noticed it before because when you look at it, it's real obvious. A thorough lube cures it for a short while but it always comes back. I'm just curious if all or some Intrigues are like this? My build date is 4-99.
Just read that GM is recalling 86,000+ unit of Envoy and Trailblazer, didn't they just vote it truck of the year.
Gm canada is finally offering 0% financing for 36 months, in order to compete with the other two.
I do remember a former Intrigue owner on this message board a year or more ago (Greybeep) who ended up selling and getting an LS1 F-body car having 17s on his Intrigue, looked pretty nice.. Have to go wider than 225's though as they would look too skinny. 245/50ZR17's maybe, and keep the 16" rims for winter tires.
Best resource to locate an Intrigue is gmbuypower.com. You can search for a car based on your Zip Code. It only shows you the closest 5 dealers, so change your zip to Chicago (60611 downtown) and you should find a few Intrigues...
--Robert
(an Aurora driver whose wife ended up buying a Grand Prix GTP instead of an Intrigue GLS)
0% for 3 years isn't great. I would like to see it for at least 48 months. The payments on a $25-30K car are a bit steep over 3 years. What are the 48 mo. and 60 mo. rates?
I leased a 99 3.8L intrigue GL silver with leather in April 99.
According to the study, I must be out of touch too 'cause I was only 26 and making only mid-40s at that time. I did get married 50 days later though.
I did have some severe early quality problems with my car. Believe it or not, the supposedly reliable 3.8 series II engine died twice on the road and they eventually replaced it at less than 8800 miles! Since then it has been trouble-free and being a drag-racer I am feeling better now.
GMAC inflated the residual value to make the lease a better deal at that time. I guess the bank will suffer great loss due to intrigue's low resale value. I, for one, am only willing to pay
around $9500-10000 for mine when the lease expires next April. You guys think it's reasonble?
Also looked at the strut towers on a couple of new Intrigues and saw that they both were like mine in that the right strut is off-center from the hole in the frame so I guess they're all like this.
Why not take your olds loyalty money and buy something else?
Besides, by the time your lease is up, you may not be able to find many Intrigues you like on dealer lots.
Anyway, they made sure it's hard to have it replaced on most cars: the fuel tank has to be removed because the filter is inside it!
:^/I've always changed my fuel filters on other cars around 30K miles, but I'm not sure what to do with the Intrigue. We need a definitive answer on this!
"There is no service interval for the in-pipe fuel filter replacement. Only replace the in-pipe fuel filter if the filter is restricted."
http://www.gmfamilysavings.com/employee/index.html
Also, don't forget any rebates in effect will be subtracted from the purchase price.
b4z: you meant your car sold at auction in June 2000 for $8500? That's low unless the mileage is really high. Maybe you meant June, 2001?
And how did you know the price? I will be curious to know how much my car gets at auction if I turn it in.
I am considering buying it at lease end for $9500 because my car has low mileage and some scratches I don't really want to pay to fix. I am adjusting my offer down now.
The termination value at lease end was $13,110 upon turn in in March 2002. Which means GMAC took a hit for $4,810.00. It would have been worse if i hadn't taken advantage of the early lease termination deal they were running last summer. They sent me a letter which explains all of this and a check for $16.39.
By the way if you want to turn your car in early it is possible.
My car only has 20566 on it now but base on your info, it would only worth $7000 at auction assuming the then mileage is about 28000. That would be half of the buyout price on my car's lease agreement!
Thank you very much for the information.
before March 31,2002. So you weren't eligible.
During the last year of the lease you can call GMAC (assuming that is who you did your lease through) and they will give you an amount that you pay upfront to get rid of the car.
The closer you are to turning the car in the lower the amount. But the less the savings.
It doesn't really matter what the car brings at auction because they still may want the termination value if you want to buy it. I would expect that because the cars' value is dropping like a stone they would probably sell it to you.
Did your dealer add $500 profit in the lease if you buy it? My termination value was $13,110 but the purchase option was $13,610. Big rip off if you ask me.
If it were me i would keep the car until April then use the loyalty money for something else. If you want to buy it offer them between $8500-9000 and have a nice low car payment.
BTW, I noticed while washing it Saturday that the rear brake pads are near the wear sensors. Car now has about 54,000 miles. I'll probably do a full brake job this weekend since the weather service says winter is finally going to hit here around Thanksgiving. I'd sure rather work on the car in 55-60 degrees than 25-30 degrees! It's about time for a new serpentine (sp?) belt, too.
Maybe there *is* some hope for GM after all. If only it happened a year or so ago, maybe Olds would still be alive.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
One grating issue from the article: He led an effective team that has transformed our sales and marketing and brought about a heightened awareness of brand value to the entire industry.
And he did this when?...
New problem. When disconnected the battery the radio locked up, displaying a "LOC" message. That should only be if a secret code was entered into it. Well, this car was a program car, so I do not know it for sure it they entered a code but, my friend definitely did not. We took it back to the dealer and told them that they sold us a car with a secret code that we were entitled to know. To make it short, after some argument in which they wanted to charge about $100, they agreed to remove the code. They unlocked the radio but, the code was still in it. The service Manager told me that there was no code left by them in the radion, so I went home, removed the battery and the radio locked up again. So, that car is going back to the dealer today.
In the meantime, I was going to check my wife's car for the same problem. Well, since she has not driven the car for 3 weeks, the battery was super dead. I had never seen battery voltage of 2.2 volts across the terminals. Put the charger on it, checked the radio and it is locked. This car, I purchased from a wholesaler with less then 1K on the odometer. Doubt that anyone put a code in it yet, however, it is there. I smell something rotten from the factory.
Can anyone who purhased the car brand new confirm that these cars come with a factory installed code in them? To check turn your ignition ON, turn the radio OFF and press and hold down the 1 and 4 buttons until the display changes. If you get "---" such, then there is NO code. If you get "SEC" then there is a code in there and your friendly dealer will want to charge you about $100 to unlock your radio but, will leave the code in it so that you will be a guaranteed, return customer next time your battery goes dead or removed.
Would appreciate any comments, answers on this.
So if yours has a lock code, the previous owner must have put it in.
Read the sedan comparison in the new Car & Driver. Accord being #1 is a joke for sure. Looking at the numbers I would have put the Altima at #1 even though I hate the clear cheapo tail lights. Buick should have been ahead of Taurus and Intrigue or Grand Prix would have done better IMO. I guess Intrigue being a lame duck was not allowed to play.
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Grand Prix GP40
http://www.edmunds.com/news/autoshows/articles/48020/page017.html