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Heck, It will probably bring in the 20 year olds into the thread.
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I'll let you know who the actual insurer is.
Where do you live? One thing I will tell you is our rates went down a lot after leaving Toronto for Oakville.
Not so sure about the increase in shift points to 7000rpm. Intrigue motor really shines in the midrange not the top end. Although an increase in shift point will help the drop off in power when it shifts into second. Who will be the first?
Emission testing happens every 2 years after a car is 3 years old here. Have not heard of any change to an annual test. Actually I heard they are planning on changing it to have the first one after 5 years instead of 3.
What the Intrigue really needs to help the low end is just shorter gearing. If the 3.29 was available as a separate option, (without the rear wing and other doodads) I might have gotten it.
I may not even be buying new cars anymore because they've become so doggone expensive. So I'm toying with the idea of maybe picking up a used 2002 PCS car, in another 4 or 5 years.
E-test is nothing more than tax grap, they can do a lot more by reducing sulphur level in gasoline, but they don't want to fight big gas companies, so instead they put the squeeze on the little guys. i read many horror stories on e-test charge by garage.
Hey 1way, how's it going old pal?
How was FLA? Have you decided on your next vehicle?
Direct Protect is our agent (800-3871963) and out insurer is Traders General Canada. Give it a try, maybe it will save you a few bucks.
A couple of times i think it went to redline but i am not to sure because i was busy drivng.
I think people on the aurora board have compalined that both the 3.5 and the 4.0 shift at 6200 rpm instead of 6500 rpms.
Too add some more info. What it comes down to is torque multiplication. The difference between the 3.05 gear and the 3.29 gear is about 8%. That means for any given speed the engine is spinning 8% faster with the 3.29 gear.
If it were at 2000 rpms with the 3.05 gear, it would be at 2160 rpms with the 3.29 gear. Because it is at 2160 rpms it is producing more hp and torque.
Another way to look at it is, if your car was in 3rd gear which is 1:1 then the engine would be turning 3.29 times for every one turn of the front tires.
You can see how that would give more off the line power but lower fuel economy.
The cheapest way to increase a car's 0-60 time is to give it more gear.Think what the difference would be between a car that has a 2.56 gear and one with a 4.11. About a 62%increase in torque multiplication!!!
Cars with small engines generally have very deep gearing and this is noticeable on the highway because the engine gets buzzy.
The American way is the best way. Big displacement engines with tall gearing which allows for excellent hwy economy, but soso city numbers.
It has a smaller engine with less torque.
But a lot more gear than the intrigue. You will be hard pressed to get 26 mpg on the hwy in the Accord, but an intrigue will do 29-30 mpg.
jg28 if you want to look into how gearing affects a car's performance, get a copy of Road & Track. In each roadtest they will have each of the transmissions ratios and the ratio of the driven wheels. If you multiply the tranny ratios times the driven ratio you will get an overall ratio that is very telling.
You will notice that the Japanese cars are pulling much more gear in 1st, 2nd and 3rd than their domestic counterparts.
You will also notice that the engine at 60 mph is turning higher rpms than your intrigue.
http://www.auto.com/industry/iwiri8_20011208.htm
Thanks- BJL
There's a good reason there are a lot of used Intrigues around- just read all the posts on this list about problems. You should be able to get one for next to nothing, but plan on experiencing some problems, and getting less and less support from dealers in the near future. It's a fun car to drive, but if you're looking for worry free transportation, you could make better selections. Just my [admittedly jaded] opinion.
2 weeks later, the dealership ditched Olds for Honda. So, now that my car is starting to have the same problem again, I go to the Honda dealership (same chain - Dan Young) and they tell me all the Olds records have been moved to their Chevy dealership down the street.
And here's an interesting note...I call the Chevy dealerships service department and ask for a quote to get a crankshaft sensor replaced on an Olds Intrigue. First thing he says is....Is the car under factory warranty? Because we DONT DO FACTORY WARRANTY WORK ON OLDSMOBILES!!!
I'm like, WTF?, but my 99 has 55K, so warranty isn't an issue. He quotes me $220, which I seem to remember being about $175 11 months earlier.
So, I have 2 options..
1. Replace the sensor on my own (could be interesting)
2. Go to the Chevy dealership and battle it out with a service manager stating that the Olds service dept (which Honda told me that they inherited) said it was warranted for a year.
PS, I no longer have the receipt for the prior service.
Any advise???
Thanks!!!
That being said, buzzard makes a good point. I'd stay away from '98s and early '99s. They are most prone to the steering shaft problem. Later build '99s may have an alternator problem and strut jounce creak.
When I purchased my '98, I knew about the steering shaft so when the problem arose, it didn't bother me because I expected it and knew it was covered. If you know about the problems you'll have, it may make ownership easier.
Just my two cents.
If there is little to no penalty I may skip the SUV for 3 more year and go for an Alero. Wasn't thinking about it, but since GM is dumping $3500 + 0.0 in my lap maybe I should go for it.
Are there no other Olds dealers in the area?
Anyone, particularly our Canadian brethren, used Yokohama? If so, what model? And how was the noise level? (Noise is a big issue with me) And last bust certainly not least, how was performance? I would think Yokohama would do well in this arena.
I have got to get out of the BADyears! They are horrible in the rain!
Another tire getting rave reviews on tirerack.com in rain and snow is the new Dunlop SP Sport A2. Fairly cheap too.
I'm sure I've seen a post here from someone that did do it themselves (it may be in the maintenance section)
Good luck!
It appears that the 2002's have an alternator problem too. Mine and my sons both have headlights that dim at times. My car is in right now at the dealership getting that repaired. I will let all know what happens!