2005 and Earlier Chevrolet Impala

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  • charts2charts2 Member Posts: 618
    TEO: WHEN THEY REPLACE MY CAR I WILL GET ANOTHER CARMINE RED. BUT NO DIC!!!
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    BE MY GUEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BUT MAKE SURE THE GAS GAUGE NEEDLE IS AT LEAST 99.9% PERCENT ACCURATE...TRUST ME WITH NO DIC YOU'LL NEED IT!!!
  • Would you guys stop yelling. I'm trying to work.
  • night_owl1night_owl1 Member Posts: 760
    I just changed my blades this past weekend. =) I'll pull them off again and take photos.
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    Is this "The return of the overly optimistic DIC"?
  • notdeadyetnotdeadyet Member Posts: 14
    I'm not looking for GM to replace the car just acknowledge that there is a problem and try to solve it. So far the dealer says he never heard of such a thing and then insulted me by asking if I knew how to use it. He finally relented and supposedly changed the sender in the tank. I still think the sender in the tank goes to the fuel gauge and the DIC gets its input from somewhere else. I just I filled up and had to put 13.4 gallons into the tank when the computer said I should have only had to put in 10.7 gallons to fill it up.
    The computer readout for average consumption was 21.4 mpg but when calculated manually using the pump the mpg dropped to 17.2.
    The DIC came as part of an option package described as a driver information and convenience center, so I didn't pay extra, other than the fact that it increased the package price - nothing is free. That aside it should be a little more accurate, an error of 25% is a little too high and I'm surprised that GM has had no complaints.
    Otherwise the car is great, especially the heated leather seats on those chilly Canadian mornings.
  • this_is_nascarthis_is_nascar Member Posts: 199
    I've read the manual and tried using it time and time again, but without success. What is the secret to get the TRAF button to work? I thought the concept was that you push it and no matter what you're listening to, if a local traffic report comes on another channel you will hear it.
  • mediumfrymediumfry Member Posts: 239
    The DIC, in my understanding, gets info from BOTH the flow meter and the tank level sensor. The instantaneous MPG, average MPG, and gallons used are from the flowmeter. The "Miles before empty" is derived from the average MPG times the calculated fuel left based on the fuel tank level sensor. That is why you get nearly 500 miles to go when full and show that you're stuck on the road when you have 1/4 tank left. The problem is with the flowmeter, since it shows high MPG and low fuel usage.
    The DIC on my previous 2 Chryslers AND my Impala have all had the same problem, ~10% low reading on the flowmeter. I think they must do it on purpose. After all, not everyone actually calculates their mileage. No use in hacking folks off by giving them low numbers. 'Course, the RIGHT numbers would be OK.

    The TRAF button, again in my understanding, works fine but never works because almost no radio stations actually transmit the signals that trip the TRAF feature.
  • impala7impala7 Member Posts: 10
    I have a 2001.When I get out I get zapped on the door.I had the car for 7 months now.I always had it.But it bad in the winter here.I know I seen a post awhile back on this.But dont recall the details.Any help before I take it in.Thanks
  • ghostwolfghostwolf Member Posts: 91
    Hey RR,


    Our state law is 35% for the front window, so I did that, and went 25% for the rear/back windows.


    At http://autowindowtintings.com/ they have a demo where you can play with the settings, although they don't have 25%. Their laws are not up to date for my state, but your window tinting place will know what the law is. You may not want to even go as dark as what your law allows.


    I made a few calls and went to check out my shop and looked at some of their work before I went with them. The place I used tinted impala's for 2 Chevy dealers in town. Solar Gard has a lifetime warranty, but there are many other good quality tints out there with same warranty. I think the quality of the person doing the job is more important (most likely) than the brand of tint.


    My tint is a smoke/charcoal color. At state law limits it looks pretty natural I think and it dosen't look like you are a gang banger or anything =)


    take care

    gw

  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    In order to make the "TRAF" feature to work, your local radio stations should already transmit RDS (Radio Data Signal) broadcasts in secondary channels which the Impala radio receiver is equipped to receive and decode. When you press the "TRAF" button, the radio turner goes into scan mode and tries to locate a radio station within the FM frequency band that is transmitting the alternate RDS channel broadcast. If it finds it, then the radio will receive and decode the signal which should typically be an ongoing traffic bulletin broadcast. If the radio does not find a RDS signal, then the display will read "NO TRAF" and then it will return to the radio station selected prior to initiating the scan function.

    RDS supports both, secondary broadcast channels and over the air text messaging broadcasts. In both instances these features become active when the radio station broadcasts simultaneously in the RDS channel.

    RDS has been widely used in Europe for years. In Europe the radio support of RDS broadcasts is incredible.... for instance in London if you press the RDS or TRAF button in your car's radio and you happen to be driving around Trafalgar Square, for example, the traffic bulleting that you receive applies to your current location..as you drive in the city, the traffic bulletins automatically get updated as you go...is truly amazing.

    Before RDS, the old European secondary broadcasts system was known as ARI. ARI was used for almost 30 years for traffic and weather bulletins. If you look or happen to have owned an older Blaunkpunt car stereo, now you know what that mysterious "ARI" button was for.

    RDS is an update of the ARI system as it supports over the air text messaging, program search location according to type of radio station programming and station identification messaging.

    Also , the automatic radio clock update feature as you travel through different time zones is RDS dependant as well.

    North America has been very slow and often reluctant to adopt an effective RDS support infrastructure as good as the one found in Europe. major radio station broadcasting companies cite the high costs of RDS equipment and technical support plus they also claim people here are either not interested in the technology (But in most cases they haven't even introduced to it) or don't have the RDS support in their car stereos to justify the investment on RDS broadcasts.

    Most new cars, foreign and domestic, now offer RDS support in their car stereos and evidently car manufacturers are making a strong case to introduce people to this radio technology and at the same time stimulate the FM Radio broadcasting industry to follow suit and update their equipment. We shall see.

    In the mean time XM Satellite digital radio is already operating and only very few luxury cars are offereing XM ready receivers. XM is a $9K to $10K radio subscription service with a large amount of broadcast channels for all tastes and digital quality radio signal.

    Perhaps the Impala would benefit with an available Delco XM radio receiver ;).

    Last, RDS only works on FM band, not AM.
  • night_owl1night_owl1 Member Posts: 760
    The static charge is coming from the cloth seats. People have rubbed dryer sheets on the material and they sell a product that is supposed to eliminate static from clothing. When I installed the wet okole seat covers, most of my static issues went away.
  • charts2charts2 Member Posts: 618
    TEODORE: THIS IS BORING STUFF LETS TALK ABOUT IMPALA THINGS THAT MATTER!! WHAT BOOK ARE YOU READING THIS OUT OF.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    Teo, your posts are informative AND about Impalas. Those who don't find them interesting may simply skip them. The rest of us want to read them. Thanks!
  • charts2charts2 Member Posts: 618
    YOU SAY.... "THOSE THAT DON'T FIND THEM INTERESTING SIMPLY SKIP THEM" MY POINT EXACTLY!! MAYBE NEXT TIME TEO READS A POST HE DOESN'T LIKE BECAUSE ITS LOW ON "HIS" PRIORITY LIST HE SHOULD SIMPLY SKIP IT AND MOVE ON TO ONE THAT EXCITES HIM.. YOUR'E RIGHT HE KNOWS A LOT AND HE LETS YOU KNOW IT!!

    I LIKE ANSWERING "HIS" POSTS AND I WILL CONTINUE!
  • this_is_nascarthis_is_nascar Member Posts: 199
    Teo, thanks for the information. Chart2, sorry this topic bores you. What bores me is trying to read messages from people like you, who have no clue in "posting etiquette" by using all CAPS in the course of normal conversation.
  • jons01jons01 Member Posts: 59
    This is the second winter that I have had my Impala and I really appreciate the traction control feature. It has helped me in not only some bad snow conditions, but also on slippery wet roads.

    Here is a question for Teo and other knowledgeable members. Does it matter that traction control is engaged all the time? Are there any parts that will wear out because the button is always in the ON position? Why is there an option to turn it off? These are probably dumb questions, but I am curious.

    Thanks
  • charts2charts2 Member Posts: 618
    this is nascar: your message to me " what bores me is trying to read messages from people like you who have no clue in posting etiquette" by using caps in the course of normal conversation" WHOM! WELL!! this is nascar; I hope you live by YOUR WORDS. Better check post #7303, I wonder who posted that one? Looks like ALL CAPS to me!!! do they look like all caps to you? Well what do you think! does post #7303 with all caps bore you or have no clue in posting etiquette, as you say. Lets see you send him the same message Mr.!! eh!! but you won't!. I like real people who are CONSISTENT when they make a blanket comment such as yours, not people who talk big! I want to see you send him the same message that you sent to me, or retract your comments.... but you won't!!

    Now lets get back to the Impala board where owners can boast about their car or bring forth their complaints..
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Let's everyone just calm down and take a deep breath or two; none of this is worth getting all worked up about.

    Charts2, it IS difficult to read a post in all caps, that's just a reality. Also, most folks around these parts find the type of post that you called "boring" quite helpful.

    It's not up to you to decide what is an okay post and what isn't - if you find a post that does not interest you, your best course of action is to just ignore it. The Membership Agreement requires civil and respectful discourse - there have been a few posts here lately that probably do not meet that requirement.

    So yes, let's get back to talking about the Impala, and stop talking about each other. And let's just agree to keep quiet if we come across posts that we do not find interesting. After all, it's not up to us individually to decide that any sort of information will not be helpful and useful to someone else.

    Thanks.

    Pat
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  • brettcabrettca Member Posts: 34
    I'm curious about that also, except I have leather seats! What is causing me to be electrocuted once I get out of the car and touch the door to close it? It is rather annoying.
  • brettcabrettca Member Posts: 34
    garypen mentioned a while back about software available for the 1st to 2nd shift. Where can I find that software? Is it dealer or aftermarket?
  • hvan3hvan3 Member Posts: 630
    One of the major reasons why I got leather seats is to reduce the amount of electric shocks when exiting the vehicle. Living in Souther Cal, we often get Santa Ana wind (very low humidity wind). Not fun being electrocuted.

    I believe there is an anti-static floor mats that can be use to eliminate statics. Typically, these mats are used on the production assembly floor when the workers assemble electronic components. I'll let you guys know if I find something interesting.

    Can you believe it, it's now 82 degrees in January!!
  • roderacerroderacer Member Posts: 311
    I have the leather seats in the '01 and still get 'popped' from time to time. Sometimes I take it personally. Can't understand it - I baby that car! hehehe

    To be honest, it happened last summer quite often, but in the Chicago winter, I don't notice it as much. I wonder if it has anything to do with the dryer summer air?

    If you notice an unusual ammount of static elect., it may be an oprion to have the car's electrical system checked; maybe there is a bad ground somewhere....

    RR
  • roderacerroderacer Member Posts: 311
    hey, thanks for the info! I think the laws in IL are quite strict. I remember hearing somewhere that front tinting isn't allowed at all! Doesn't seem to stop anyone (including me).

    I think I might opt for a little lighter share in the rear. Maybe 25% all the way around.

    Any darker and I will be "profiled".... ;)

    take it easy. GO BEARS!!!

    RR
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    Gm has a TSB for the static problem. It is a software upgrade to the ECM. If anybody knows TSB# please post it.
  • night_owl1night_owl1 Member Posts: 760
    Traction control works by detecting wheel spin. If it senses that one or both of the drive wheels are spinnning or beginning to lose traction, the car will reduce engine power, upshift and/or apply the front brakes in an effort to limit wheel spin.

    If you get stuck in mud or snow, you may have to "rock" you car to get out. If that is the case, you will need to turn the traction control off.

    Leaving the traction control on will not cause items to wear any faster than normal. It is not like 4 wheel drive where the hubs are spinning.
  • night_owl1night_owl1 Member Posts: 760
    I didn't realize the leather seats also cause static buildup. Maybe we need to all bathe in Downy or wear clothes made out of Bounce sheets.
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    My previous post nonwithstanding. I find myself yearing for another car. I love my Impala, but want something more. Specifically more power.
    The impala is the firs new car that i haven't had to take in for warranty work. So i am scared to part with it.
    I would like about 260-280hp.

    The Infiniti G35 looks very promising.

    If you guys had a choice of buying another car under 30K, which car would you choose?
  • eeeleeel Member Posts: 57
    I'd buy a Dodge Intrepid R/T or a 300M.
  • mediumfrymediumfry Member Posts: 239
    I was going to post just what Nathan said about traction control, but he beat me to it. Folks also shut off traction control when they want to impress their friends in the high school parking lot. Rumor has it Goodyear subsidizes this feature. (joke?)

    As for the static thing, I'd really like to see that TSB regarding the ECM. I don't understand how the ECM could affect static, except maybe for static on the radio. As for a bad ground, I doubt that as well.
    12 volts will produce a spark when jumped to ground in a short circuit condition. But it actually takes many thousands or millions of volts of static charge to produce a spark that shocks a person. The problem is twofold: First, dry weather causes more buildup of static charge, and the air in the car is much dryer in the winter than the summer. Second, leather and cloth are both non-conductive and therefore don't dissipate the built-up charge quickly enough to bring them back to low voltage before you get out and touch the door. Even if the seat is properly grounded to the chassis, a person's clothing will build the required voltage when getting out, while not leaving enough time for the voltage to dissipate.
    Fabric softners and other friction reducing treatments can help, both with charge buildup and dissipation. Since leather tends to produce less friction, it is usually less of a problem than cloth.
  • mediumfrymediumfry Member Posts: 239
    In my opinion the 300M isn't close to being worth the extra $10,000 you gotta spend to get one compared to a Impala LS.

    Bigger stereo, nominal acceleration increase, and true climate control is all I see it having over the Impala.

    Plus, at no extra charge you get a flimsy Chrysler body and all the associated issues.

    Not that I'm biased or anything.

    By the way I have a Chrysler minivan and would get another one. Those are better than Ford or GM any day. Ford has the best trucks.

    Oh yeah we're talking about the Impala.
  • mediumfrymediumfry Member Posts: 239
    I wrote to jim@collectorsautosupply.com:

    "I'm looking for the rear molded splash guards for 2000-2002 Chevy Impalas. Do you handle these?"

    jim@collectorsautosupply.com replied "Let me get you prices. Is there a particular colour you want?"

    Anyone who's interested in following up can do so directly with Jim. Good luck. Collector's Auto Supply is out of Oroville, WA and Peachland, B.C. Canada. Maybe they can get them from the Great White North.

    Jim's indication that there are colour choices indicates these may be aftermarket parts. But hey if they look good, what the heck, eh hoser?
  • ghostwolfghostwolf Member Posts: 91
    Hey RR-
    Before I forget, yes the Bears are doing GREAT this year, I think its their best year since 85?

    On the tinting, its my understanding that the lower the number, the darker it is. Because I have 35 on the front windows and it is lighter than the 25 on the rear. As a matter of fact, I was considering going 35 all the way around to keep it all uniform. Before I made a decision I looked at some he had already done (the vast majority had the state limit of 35 in the front and 25 in the rear, but he did have one 35 all the way around). I chose to do the mixed ratios. If the law allowed for 25 all the way around I might have gone that way.

    I do feel that the tint offers some protection from the sun and glare and also keeps the car cooler in the summer time.

    By the way I used to live 90 miles north of Chicago, right off of I-94 in SW Michigan, so I do follow the Bears alot, even down here in Arkansas.

    Take Care
    gw
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    Reread my "call me crazy" post, which should explain my TSB post about the static.
  • brettcabrettca Member Posts: 34
    Is there a web site that we can go to to see the TSB's for Chevrolet or Impala?
  • duraflexduraflex Member Posts: 358
    I noticed last night that the two lenses in front of the high beam headlamps are clouded - at least in the lower half. The outside lenses are clear.
    1- Has anybody else seen this on their car?
    2- Is replacement covered under warranty?
  • hvan3hvan3 Member Posts: 630
    Mediumfry

    If you sit in the 300M, you can definitely tell the 300M is more luxurious than the Impala LS. Better quality materials all around. I realize that the price difference is enormous. You get what you pay for.

    Once Chevy introduces the Impala SS, it would be nice to see luxury amenities on the Impala SS, similarly to the 300M equipped. Of course, GM will have to increase the price of the SS as a limited production for those that prefer "uniqueness".
  • 00impala00impala Member Posts: 474
    I thourougly checked out a 2002 Crown Victoria LX Sport over the weekend, Leather Buckets and Floor Shifter and 17" Rims... I Like it! I know it is RWD and seemingly out-dated and all that that Jazz, but what is the difference if it has components that are tried and true and does not have aluminum front end pieces and ISS's that are Crap to cause fickle noises and the like,(I like my Impala's but I think my 2000 LS is "gone" close to 36K or next Dec. 2002 when they warranty runs out) also on the REAR Flaps, I searched high and low a few months ago for my 2001. I found a Dealer in Providence R.I. that ordered me a set from a warehouse in Ohio, the only stipulation was that I could ""not"" return them, I was too happy to even find a set, they came, I modified them and they work fine, Now I cannot remember the Buick Dealership to direct the guy looking for them to call?? Don
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Member Posts: 2,287
    We can start with about $5,000. By the way, you should go read the Crown Vic forum for a while before you decide to buy. Also, know that Mercury is coming out with a Marauder (Grand Marquis model) with 300hp, probably in May. Price about the same as the CV Sport, or so my local dealer has been told...
  • bige1133bige1133 Member Posts: 7
    I thought I was getting a 200W 8 speaker system and CD when I picked up my 2002 Impala. What I see are four speakers (2 in front door, two in back panel). Maybe there is a tweeter/woofer combo in the front to make 6 speakers but where's the other two? Edmunds site says that the 2002's upgraded to 8 speakers and a bigger amp. Anyone?
  • brettcabrettca Member Posts: 34
    The speakers in the back are also two-way. (Per GM, makes eight) I was disappointed also, but mine really sounds good, so I didn't [non-permissible content removed] too much. Brett.
  • impala7impala7 Member Posts: 10
    Thanks for all the help.I will try somethings and repost at a later date.<<<<<<GO PACKERS>>>>>>
  • mediumfrymediumfry Member Posts: 239
    I don't get it. Post # 7329 doesn't say anything about the static / TSB. Is there an earlier one?
  • brettcabrettca Member Posts: 34
    I think what he was saying is that he wants a vehicle that doesn't have a static issue.....
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    I was joking about their being a TSB for the static issue.
    A joke kind of loses its impact when you have to explain it.
    Maybe i am not as funny as i think i am.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Re: Which other sedans I would pick for about $30K?

    Same as you I love my Impala very much and it has been a great car to us so far. However, for my next car I am craving for RWD, 50/50 weight distribution, a 6-in line engine and possibly a manual 5 or 6 speed, altough I much prefer automatics due to my everyday driving conditions.

    Very few cars in the market match these requirements in the $28K to $35K price range, here are my runner ups:

    *BMW 325 or 330 Sedan or sportwagon
    *Lexus IS 300 sedan or Sportcross wagon
    *Infiniti G35 (the sedan looks good but the rear end has that "droppy" Infiniti benchmark butt)
    *Cadillac CTS (Only when Lutz revises some of the exterior "Darth Vader" looks and drops a more powerful engine under the hood)
    *Impala SS V8 RWD (If it happens I would put it high on my shopping list)

    If I were forced to go the FWD/AWD route my first pick perhaps will be the Audi A4 sedan or the all new A4 Avant wagon comes out next year.

    Ford Crown Victorias and Mercury Marauders simply don't appeal to me. I know they are awesome cars in their own right, but they always remind me of New York City Taxi cabs....nothing wrong, just me.

    Acura seems pretty dissapointing as of late. While Lexus and Infiniti already have serious RWD sedans priced at or under $30K, Acura is still stuck with the FWD Accord platform. Nothing at Acura appeals to me at that price point and performancewise.

    I am planning on keeping my Impala LS for at least 3 years so by the time I decide to make the jump, most of these cars would have already be a couple of years out in the market, already improved or fully redesigned. So this is likely by either 2003, 2004 or 2005.
  • dieselonedieselone Member Posts: 5,729
    Since I'm partial to manual transmissions. I'd seriously look at the new Maximas. I know the styling is a bit odd, but 255hp going thru a 6speed manual with a limited slip diff would put a big fat smile on my face. The Altima is interesting as well (even faster), but the Maxima has a nicer interior. I guess it depends on the style of car you like. I can't think of any other manufacturer offering a high performance v6 with a manual transmission in a sedan for under $30K and Nissan offers two. I'm sure some will disagree, but my choice is mainly based on performance and the fact I absolutely love Nissan's new 3.5L v6. Lots of HP with torque to match and smooth as silk.
  • dieselonedieselone Member Posts: 5,729
    Regarding Infinity, you mentioned them having serious RWD cars under $30K. The only car I know of the Nissan/Infinity makes that is RWD is the Q45 and that is way over $30K. The G20, I30, and I35 are all FWD. Correct me if I'm missing something. Other than that, I agree with all of your choices.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    Dieselone, in the case of Infiniti, it appears to be that they *will* have a serious RWD sedan contender with the upcoming G35, but I am still not sold 100% with Nissan's styling excercises of late.

    The Altima is very nice, but I want next time around a car from a Luxury brand. The Maxima is a very good car, but the Altima is the better choice of the two in despite of the 255HP engine and 6-speed manual. I also can't get over the solid rear axle in the Maxima and the mediocre crash test scores.

    I also want to see how the new Altima unfolds in the reliability arena overtime.
  • teoteo Member Posts: 2,508
    I also wanted to say that GM has a true "Gem" in the current Impala sedan. But GM needs to bring performance upgrades (Among other things)to this car to keep buyers interested in it. This car drives/feels/handles/accelerates so nicely as it is today and when I am behind the wheel I often think about the great potential and possibilities the Impala offers for the future...a fun, high performance, practical and roomy family sedan at an affordable price.

    While I might be the only one that thinks that GM should keep a V6 pushrod offering in the Impala, this car also screams but a furious DOHC motor and a V8 option and even a Supercharged powerplant.

    If GM adds any of these to the already tasty mix, get ready for one of the best performing, best family sedan values in the market.

    GM, it is up to you to keep current and future owners interested in the Impala.
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