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In reference to this UBS, what is it? Does it matter where you live? How long are the waits when using this service?
They were going to charge us $1400 for these options. And they told us we had to take the options even though our van won't even be built until December.
I looked up the prices for these accessories on the internet and they can be ordered for a total of $372.80 (plus shipping). Of course I didn't get a price on the pinstripe, but I can't imagine the pinstripe is much more than $100.
So, if we round it off to $500 that means they are making $900 on these options that I don't even want. Anyone else run into this sort of practice from a Honda dealer?
To me this is akin to price gouging. In fact, I may draft a letter to the Missouri Attornal General with a complaint. And isn't the fact that all Honda Dealers in the St. Louis area sell Odysseys at Sticker without negotiation considered price fixing?
For example, todayI delivered a EXL/RES and the VIN is 2HKRL180........ I also delivered a Civic today its VIN is 1HGES165......
Hope this helps
Jerry
I was told yesterday when I ordered an Odyssey that the Alabama plant wouldn't be up and running until the spring.
Bill
Thanks
James Nash
I live in Jacksonville,FL and all dealers here are getting from $1,000 to $4,000 OVER MSRP...why anyone would pay this is beyond me? Anyway, I'm waiting for mine that I will be getting for MRSP, (but not a dollar less), and probably not until the first of the year because of the wait from so many getting them there...from a dealer about 70 miles from here.
Good luck getting anyone to let you have one for less than that. I think you could before there was such a demand, but those days seem to be over. I'm also holding out that maybe Honda will offer 0% financing by next year, however doubtful.
Nancy, FL
I read your post regarding prices being much higher than MSRP in Jacksonville FL. I have been frustrated at this trend which prevents me from buying a vehicle of my choice. Any help in locating a more reasonably priced dealership would be appreciated. I am willing to wait a few months for the delivery if necessary.
Sid, FL
I wouldn't worry about whether you would be getting a lemon or not. Honda will make sure that they product delivered is up to snuff.
Jerry
Tomorrow, I pick up my EX-RES. I bought it at Nardy Honda in Smithtown.
Nardy has been pleasant to deal with, and refreshingly honest. I paid MSRP
and I didn't have to buy anything extra (unlike some other dealers, that quote
MSRP, but make you buy pinstriping and other nonsense). I ordered the
van in early September and I was told 2 months. Nardy even arranged for
good financing (6.95% for up to 60 months).
Barry
As far as minivans not holding value, I would check on any Odyssey. We are now in year 4 of production and getting one at MSRP is considered a good deal. My dealer in NJ sold a 99 with 25,000 miles on it in a day last month at what had been MSRP in 99. Yes you can get a used 99 Windstar, Caravan, etc at a much lower price. What's the point? There are minivans and then there are minivans. Odyssey holds its value and doesn't show real signs of stopping. If that's what you want, that's what they go for.
A Minivan is just a family hauler, not a fancy custom designed limited edition must have sports car. Odyssey is a fine vehicle - reliable (like Toyota) and spacious (but unlike Toyota), but kind of very boring to look at. Reminds of a big hiking shoe box on four wheels (that is a personal opinion so no debate).
I have a loaded 1999 GC sports, and is very satisfied till now, kids like it, drives great and sound of infinity stereo is awesome. It does the job for which it was baught thank fully with no problems till now (touchwood!). It was baught at much lower cost than a Honda so it will be sold at somewhat lower price at the end of its life with me so no big deal. As I already have Accord, buying yet another Honda was somewhat out of question more so my son didn't like Odyssey looks, and there was a wait list, and Toyota didn't have luggage space and was expensive.
In short, don't pay premiun - its not worth it. I can't believe people will wait for years or drive miles to pick up an appliance of a family vehicle. Look at alternatives, and like thousands of other families with Minivans other than Honda, you are likely to be greatly satisfied.
I just picked up my GG EX 2002 today,10/30/01 in Dallas.
Here are the details.
$26,690.00 MSRP-$500
$ 1,668.12 Sales Tax (6.25%)
$ 57.35 Vehicle Inventory Tax
$ 69.80 License Fee
$ 13.00 Title Fee
$ 21.75 State Inspection Fee
$ 50.00 Documentation Fee
$ 5.00 Transfer Fee
===========================
$ 28,575.02 Out the Door
All negotiation was done via email. Dealer did not try to
pressure me with any kind of add-ons when I went to
pick-up the car. He did try to offer me a 7yr/90K warranty
for $810, which I declined. It took me 45 minutes to pick
up my car and most of that time was me inspecting and
test driving the vehicle. I ordered the vehicle on 10/09/01
The most painless car transaction I have ever made.
Your tax figure of $1668.12 is 6.25% of $26690.
If you really paid $500 off MSRP, you drive out price should be $28075.02. Please check again.
the plant in Canada.
MSRP ($26750) + Destination Charge ($440)=$27,190
$27190-$500 off =$26690.
6.25% of $26690 is 1668.12
Was very satisfied when I lived down there and had my Accord serviced there regularly. Call Belinda at 1-800-564-9836...she's great or speak with Walt Smith, the sales manager; tell them sgreen sent you!....Let me know how you make out.
Are you sure? MSRP in 99 was only $800 less than MSRP in 2002. So, some guy would rather not to pay extra $800 to have a three-year-newer car with 25K less mileage, 35 more HP and side airbags?
1999 Honda Odyssey 4 Dr LX Passenger Van (w/ Captain's Chairs)
Color: Light Brown (I presume this means "Mesa Beige")
Mileage: 25,000
Condition: Outstanding
Dealer Retail (certified) $22,922
2002 Honda Odyssey LX 4dr Minivan (3.5L 6cyl 5A)
Color: Light Brown
MSRP $24,690
So, adjust for a tight market, maybe some options, and you could be at MSRP for a new one. Don't try this with other models :-)
Steve
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Ourisman in Bethesda MD will also sell at MSRP if you preorder, but you'll pay extra via options or pkgs if they have it on their lot.
Pohank Honda in Marlow Heights Md was willing to waive their $695 appearance pkg with little effort. EVERYBODY else in the metro DC area had something added to take the cost above MSRP.
Overall this was the most unpleasant new car purchase experience I ever had. This is a very good vehicle but for the dealers to act as though you should be grateful for them ALLOWING you to purchase one at MSRP is beyond me. I don't think I should feel priviliged to give a dealer a $3500 to $4000 profit on this vehicle. I was the one paying $27190 to buy a new vehicle and all dealers were treating me like I was purchasing a 1985 Chevette with bad credit.
Overall this is a very good vehicle, not the best vehicle of any kind, ever made, by anybody, at anytime, at any price!! But a very good vehicle. Take into account the very obnoxious dealers, and an unreasonably high profit for said obnoxious dealers and you have the ingredients for an unpleasant situation.
Again, I am very happy with the vehicle, but the purchase experience left a lot to be desired.
Lastly, the CD/stereo in this $27K vehicle is VERY weak!
Anyway, $500 below MSRP is minimum in Ohio. Good luck!
http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/011104/business_autos_industry_dc_1.html
Industry Expert: Car Firms Face Tough '02
BREMEN (Reuters) - The worldwide automotive industry has to gear up for a tough year in 2002 and is not likely to see a recovery until 2003, one of Europe's leading car experts forecast said this week.
sticker 30190
platinum plus 99.50 (some bs service thing)
sales tax 1060.13 (alabama)
title 16.50
out the door for 31366.13.
my salesperson would not move off of sticker, but did throw in accent striping, carpeted mats, a nice sturdy vinyl liner for the rear well, and underbody treatment for free (i didn't ask for any of it, she just did it on her own). seemed more than fair!
i got it from Jane Cobb at Townsend Honda, in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
Also, does anyone know about the "paint problems" with the Havasu Blue expected to come out on the new 2002? I know they changed a few colors for 2002. Is it a bad idea to buy a new paint color the first year it comes out????