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A used 2002 Bravada we looked at had a build date of 1/01. That was a big reason we didn't look at it any further. I actually got a new one cheaper anyways. May 01 is obviously several months into the build. It must be a unique vehicle to sit around that long however.
GAM2
I had a few spots show up 2-3 weeks after I took delivery. They were on my hood & roof which appeared to be chemical type spotting. When I took it to the dealer, they sort of gave the same bit, "environmental". There was also an little surface imperfection that I did not see which they said they would cover. The salesman told me that he wanted the paint shop to look at it. When the paint shop foreman took one look, he immediately said it should be redone, under warranty, without question, regardless of the surface imperfection. I had my hood and roof repainted the next week under warranty. A side note: one week after the repainting, I had a stone hit the front of the hood edge! DAMN!! A hood deflector would have been a good thing!
john
I went all the way to the back and I guess there was a recall in April 01 for a control arm problem that was a real mess - people had to give up the cars......
My TB LTZ is two weeks old. I looked at the build date and it was 5/01! Yikes! It must have sat around a long time. It had 700 miles on it...
Do I have to worry about the control arm issue, or was it fixed by May?
Thanks
Today, I was out doing some errands, when I got back in the Envoy, now the tilt steering doesn't work. The tilt button just bounces back and forth, but the steering wheel is stuck in the up position. I called to take it in, but they can't get it in today, and they said they may have to keep it a couple of day. So I guess I have to drive it like this until next week. Anybody else have this problem?
After the dealer performs any recall work, they will put a sticker under the hood (usually on the plastic near the fan) or on the door jam stating that the recall (campaign #) was completed and the date.
So if you buy a truck off the lot that been sitting, check for these. Being that GM stopped production of the truck for a month to figure out the fix, I would think that any car built after 5/01 should be fine.
HORRIBLE that many early buyers got stuck w/o a vehicle......
Is there an aftermaket exhaust tip for the muffler it really sticks out.....
Thanks again for the info!!!
Debbie
jim f
I extendend them by removing the orig. flaps then bolting a set of flat rubber mats to the front sides so they hang out an inch or so about half way down the side and the bottom hangs about 3in below(make sure the nuts on the back sides dont touch any metal or rust will start)only thing that shows is the head of the screw which I touched up black. Seems to be working!
I will start using the DIC to track time and miles to get a good idea of average speeds per tank to see what kind of correlation there is to that.
I asked the dealer to check it out last week when I took it in for the axle squeal, but they could not find anything wrong. At least he didn't try to tell me it was acceptable.
They are ordering a new seal for the axle and will replace the seal. I may bring up the mileage thing again at that time.
GAM2
1- Edmunds review says this suv is sloppy on curves. What do you folks who have experience with the car think? I test drove and the suspension felt a bit wallowy, but I am used to driving the 99, so would expect it would feel very different at first.
2 - Engine on 2002 was very noisy in low gear when I first drove. Dealer said car was cold. After a couple of minutes, noise went away. Any similar experiences.
3 - Dealer had to do a "locate" on the car I want, and closest he could find was in Ma. I am in NY, on LI. Is he going to try to hit me for transportation costs?
4 - Dealer advised me today that if I want to take a 3/36 warranty instead of the 5/50, I can get an additional $1000 of the cost of the car.
Thanks
#2. I can't say I've experienced that, maybe someone who has will chime in later.
#3. Indeed he likely is going to want to charge you transportation costs. I ran into this myself, but I had the luxury of having the time to factory order and wait. If your not in a rush I would suggest making a factory order, the benefits are that the destination charge is already reflected into the invoice so no extra charge there. Also when you factory order the build date for your vehicle will be after you place your order, so you will have all the up to date parts and changes that's been made to the triplets to this point, versus getting the one in MA and it may or may not be that recent of a build date. Also you don't know what condition the one in MA is in and whether it's been test drove to death with hard driving and braking without proper engine break in time. There's fewer unknowns with a factory order.
#4. That's true. You have to weigh whether you want the extended warranty or not. I haven't needed to take advantage of mine just yet with only 600 miles on mine so far, but I can tell you an extended warranty saved me thousands of dollars on my previous Explorer an I only had the Explorer for four years and only put 55,000 miles on it, so I took the extended warranty plus added an appropriate mileage increase because I'll drive more than 60,000 miles in five years.
Well that's my two cents for what it's worth. I'm sure you'll get some more responses on this subject.
Also, if you are concerned about safety, review the IIHS test results on the GM triplets which are not very good for a new model:
http://www.iihs.org/
To the Bravada questions:
1) It is a truck. I think mine handles fine for a
vehicle weighing 4700 lbs. The turning radius is quite good.
2) Sometimes the engine fan comes on when you start the vehicle. That's what the noise is. There may be a TSB out for that.
3) My Bravada came from a dealer 100 miles away and I did not pay for transportation.
4) The extended warranty is a rebate of sorts. I would not mess with it, I'd take the warranty. I was told list price on the same warranty is over $1500, so you are getting it at cost.
GAM2
GAM2
Steve: On occasion when I have been in a rush, I also rapidly have switched from reverse to drive and then floored it. And I was met with a bang in the tranny. I've noticed on several different vehicles that the newer electronic transmissions seem to take longer to engage when switching gears. I'm not really sure if that is by design or not. But yes, my truck does it as well.
Reminds me of "neutral drops" when I was young.
Give it some gas in neutral and drop it into drive. Bang, and you were off, hopefully not breaking anything!
GAM2
the overhead console seems like the ideal spot for a monitor but where would the rest of the system be located?
jim f
Can anything be done to fill the holes?
I gave my TB LS3 a thorough washing last weekend. The build date is 11/01. I noticed the holes too. Nothing is attached to them, but the shrowd in the wheel well is attached elsewhere. I suspect the holes are there to attach the two-tone fender flares GM puts on the LTZ. It all looks nice and tight on mine, so I am ignoring it. Who looks in there anyway?
I bought a mass-production GM SUV because it rides great, has excellent power, great features, and a state-of-the-art engine that gets better mileage than anything else in it's class. And I paid $23,100 for it. I didn't buy an Austin Martin. All-in-all It's a great truck for the money.
Luckily, that was the only bad thing during our trip. This was the first time that I had driven on snow and I thought that the 4-wheel drive and snow tires did a great job (saved me from fish-tailing once). I am glad that I did not have to get out and put on chains in freezing weather.
We took our 7 year old boy with us, and to keep him busy, I bought a dc to ac converter and connected my laptop so that he could watch dvd movies or play games. I fashioned a sling, using a nylon strap and tied it around the headrest supports and placed a pillow between his lap and the computer. He didn't get too uncomfortable and enjoyed watching the movies and playing games.
Hey, I bet you got in some good skiing at Tahoe though! Sounds like a fun trip, but too bad about your delay.
The repair was to replace the steering assembly, as stated on the repair work order. I don't know what all that involved, but they did it in one day.
Hope this helps.
In regards to the squealing, there have been previous posts of people having the axle seals replaced (my included) on the Envoy and TrailBlazer. Did the squeal occur as you were driving and applying brakes? Or while cruising? My symptom was while drive above 20 mph and would not always occur when I drove, but mostly when it was cold (20-35 deg F). Braking or engine speed would not affect the volume or frequency of the squeal.