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Jaguar X-Type



  • jonty12jonty12 Posts: 101
    ... depends on the year of the car. on a 2002, there is no difference besides the extra half litre and no-cost auto (my manual transmission means i paid for an auto even though i didn't want it), on a 2003 there are a couple other differences. If you go to you can see it in more detail, but i think on a 2003 you also lose the chrome speaker surrounds and wood door trim on the 2.5 manual. it comes on the 2.5 auto, and the 3.0 manual/auto. i'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong.
  • Thank you for responding to my inquirey about the pictures. You were very helpful, and I really appreciate how you posted so many different sites for me to choose from. Thank you so much.

    Pluskin -

    No! Don't go back to lurking. We were both just telling what we thought to each other. It would be a loss to have you no longer post. All I am saying is that I still have some proof that the X-R will apear even with the demise of the F-TYPE. You have information to the contrary - it doesn't matter though, as the future will surely tell us what is to come and which one of us is correct. You think you are, I think I am - there is nothing wrong with having different opinions. So that you know, Car & Driver says the X-R is dead, but I disagree. We'll see, but I wasn't trying to get you to stop posting.

    Jonty12 - Changes for 2003

    I believe everything you have said is true, and that 2003 manual equipped cars do indeed come without the wood door trim. If the buyer would like it, some dealers are installing the trim as an extra requested option. 2003's also have the horizontal bar that runs through the "mouth" of the car blacked-out, as does the S-TYPE, and a swede-like material between the front seats and the center console to prevent any noise that could come about if the seat rubs on the console. Trip computer screen is also now a glowing green background with black lettering, as opposed to the glowing green letters on a black background on 2002's.
  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    Figures the model i was interested in got changed up. Too bad the upgrade to 3.0 dont include premium stereo or something else for the 6k , ala BMW.

    When i 1st saw that London calling ad i though there was a English delivery plan if you will, id sure sign up for one .Which brings me to one more question is it possible to order a specific car and if so what would be the shipping time frame ?

  • jonty12jonty12 Posts: 101
    it is possible to order a car. many people, including myself, did so in the first year. expect 3-4 months for delivery. when you order you're not obligated to take the car on delivery, but they do expect a deposit on order. i think the fine print in the london calling promotion (has it expired?) says you must take delivery from dealer inventory, thus ruling out custom order.
  • "All I am saying is that I still have some proof that the X-R will apear"

    Let's hear your proof.
    All I know is that management has told us that there is no business case for it, and that all the engineers have been pulled off from it. If you have better information than that, than I'll be very impressed.
  • "How good is your car? How good is the car you're thinking about buying? And where can you unearth the truth? Here, that's where.

    We've spoken to over 37,000 motorists, who've given us the full low-down on 120 models and 33 manufacturers. They've provided us - and you - with uniquely unbiased, spin-free information on every aspect of reliability, running costs, driving experience and treatment received from dealers..."

    Top Gear finished its 2002 Motoring Survey, and out of its "Small Executive Cars" category, the Jaguar X-TYPE finished in second place.

    "Just past its first anniversary and the X-Type enters the survey three places ahead of the BMW 3-Series. Great dealer service, few problems and good dynamics see to that."

    The rankings for this segment were as follows:

    1.) Lexus IS 200
    2.) Jaguar X-TYPE
    3.) BMW 3-Series
    4.) Mercedes-Benz C-Class
    5.) Audi A4 and A4 Avant (wagon)
    6.) Saab 9-3
    7.) Volvo S40 and V40 (wagon)
    8.) Alfa Romeo 156

    Well, I'm happy...
  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    Actually its the 8th place 156 that i covet, i guess in 2004 or 2005 we might get one here.

    jonty: millennium has called and left several messages even though i told them id call when i could come back in, sheesh. Ill contact your salesperson next week hopefully.

    i just got the new october road and track with all the new models listed. It says specifiacally that the 2003 X type has enhanced content at prices BELOW 2002 . Did i miss something? i didnt not know that MSRP went down ?

    on a sidebar i got invited the drive the new E500 class at the Texas Motor Speedway on September 22nd, should be a good time.

  • I think that base prices may have dropped by a hundred dollars or so, but they actually increased the prices for options; although they reorganized the option packages so that options like the sunroof did not require the entire premium package, etc. I don't think they're actually losing much at all in the new deal, it all kind of balances out.

    Isn't GM interested in purchasing Alpha Romeo, and in bringing it over here in 2005 or '06? The current cars look kind of like fun little cars, but I wouldn't want one over my perfect X.

  • What is Alpha Romero? Are they anything like Alfa Romero's?
  • Well, you screwed that little zinger up huh!
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    I don't think that zero spelling and/or typograpical errors are requirements of the Membership Agreement.

  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    Made a visit to overseas motors. They have a 2002 British Racing green "base" car i was offered at invoice. Then again it is a year old and no roof. But it has that all important manual tranny.... hmmmm.Much better staff than millinnium.

  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    if it wuz a reqiremint, weed all be in trubul!
  • jonty12jonty12 Posts: 101
    when did you go in to overseas? who did you deal with? i was there briefly on saturday. you can probably get them to throw stuff in on a year old base model. all the known problems now have fixes, so make sure you get them all done before taking delivery.
  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    I went in today. Mr Mathews grabbed me, but Barbra was not there.Does any one know what produxtion date i should look out for on a 2002 ? regarding any problems? He said i could get the in -dash CD put in and also a moonroof ? although im a little leary about a after market roof on the Jag.... on the good side it has wood not offered on the 2.5 5 speed for 2003 on the door panels. That new Auto package for 2003 is $1800 ! oh and id like the 17" wheels i belive also.

  • jonty12jonty12 Posts: 101
    most of the major problem cars are 07/01 and 08/01 production vehicles. i think if it's 11/01 or after you should be fine. unless they've taken care of the tsb's, you'll still have the rocking seats, leaky windshield washers, and trunk latch issue. if it's an 04/02 or after vehicle, i think most of the issues are gone. as i said before, make sure you get them to fix ALL the issues prior to delivery, and then it shouldn't really matter the build date.
  • At least I had it 1/2 right, Ok! its Alfa Romeo!
  • Jagone-
    Boy, Alpha Romeros must be really exotic as I've never heard of them before. :-):-) :-) Don't worry, I've made much worse mistakes before, and I'm not just talking about spelling. Think nothing of it. :-)

    Pat & Desertguy-
    Thanks for defending my spelling while I was gone. :-)

    Automobile Magazine just bought a 2.5 litre X-TYPE in Platinum Silver Metallic. Car guru David E. Davis Jr. likes everything about the car except for the shift linkage of the manual transmission and the editors expressed that the X-TYPE has the "Jaguar feel" just right. They also love the car's ride and said that "rough-road damping is very good". They "like the steering a lot", and Davis "loved" the chassis and said that it "makes this Jag a lovely driver".

    Also, if you don't feel like paying for the Jaguar Alpine premium sound system with 6-disc CD changer ($1,200), or don't have it or the $200 single disc in-dash unit, Automobile found that Sony's Xplode 10-CD/MP3-disc player was compatible with the X-TYPE's special Fibre-Optic electrical system, and only cost them $280 (I don't know if that included installation costs). They got it to work with the car, so if you want a nice system, this may be it. They don't say how they hooked it up, but you may want to check it out.


    P.S. - I noticed that my trunk had always had a slight nano-second delay after pushing the release button, but now, after having the car for five to six months, the trunk latch has gotten comfortable and opens and releases precisely when I puch the button. Doors are also very easy to open and close now, and it seems the car just gets better with time. No problems have come up either - not even a single rattle or bad vibe. Still have that great new-Jaguar smell inside. Truly is a wonderful car!
  • I'm glad Automobile mag likes the XType. I just got a sample issue (Oct.) of European Car and they don't like anything about it! Apparently they trashed it in the Sept. issue as well. Mainly it is price, theirs was 44K and what you get or don't get for that price. Most of their points were strictly subjective. I was very disappointed with the long term review. It just wasn't "Jaguar-like" enough for them whatever that means.
  • I beg to differ, if one is to engage in purchasing or discussing luxury motorcars. One should be capable of at least spelling their nameplates half correctly! I fear that you'll just delete this post because you rule this message board with an IRON MOUSE! No wonder very few post upon on these message boards. It would serve Edmunds well to have you gone from here. There is always HOPE!!!
  • I sent Host Pat an email as he said "if you have any comments email me" a few weeks ago after he squelched a discussion. It pointed out that IMO he was over playing his Host role and censoring posts he didn't like. He did not have the courtesy to even answer me. Nobody posted on the board for several days after his post. Nuff said.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 4,056
    Is Pat male?

    I don't think so.

    I could be wrong.
  • I remember the Edmunds Rep that was at LS Mania one. Very personable young lady whose card I still have. In fact, I remember you were at the same table with us at lunch and I asked you the origin of your board handle which I've now forgotten. I think Pat is a male. Will we ever know?
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 4,056
    I remember the time you're talking about, and there's no doubt the Pat we met then was female.

    Still, in the present context, food for thought.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Funny, I thought the topic was Jaguar X-Type, not "Let's talk about Pat the host."


    Jagone, I understand your point, but as a member of our Town Hall YOU must understand that your messages are required to be civil and respectful. If you have any questions about our community rules, please review the terms to which you agreed when joining our community by following the "Member Agreement" link on the left sidebar of this page.

    The post which you attacked was clear in its intent - aside from the spelling errors - and the attack you launched was way outside of the terms of that Membership Agreement.

    If you wish to discuss this further, please email me. This is way off topic and inappropriate here. So let's take this off-line if we need to discuss this further.

    To the rest of you, I have never been to an LS Mania event, and frankly the Saturday Night Live references are very old and tired. Somehow I seem to attract those references nearly everywhere I go, and I assure you, I am NOT that Pat.

  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    desertguy, I cannot find any email from you except for one asking about cookies (to which I replied).

    If you want to resend it, I'll be happy to address your concerns.
  • I advise that everyone contact Edmunds by E-mail or post and have this tyrant removed! I believe this individual is just a smarta$$ on some sort of power trip!
  • Please don't try and cause any trouble. Pat has always been a very fair and more than understanding host, and I enjoy having Pat watch over this area. If you have any problems, you can e-mail Pat and work them out directly. Pat's really a great host and has never acted anywhere near tyrannical. Now let's get back on the proper subject again - and this message is not an attempt to make a personal attack so please do not take offense from it. I just totally disagree with you on this one.

    Pat - I wouldn't want any other host here!
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
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  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Is there anyone here who would like to discuss the X-Type?

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