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  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    ChiTown Pro, you sound like a man of learning?

    -Larry
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    Well, right now my "little charger" is in day two of it's nose surgery repair job. I called the doctor (the adjuster) at Lancaster Toyota Mazda Collision Center and he said my "little fireball" will pull thru! I'm keeping my fingers crossed. When my PRO gets home I'm gonna treat him to a coat of KLASSE All-in-One, followed by a top shot of Blitz Wax and I full interior detail. Boy, do I luv my Protege!

    Kudos, to Maltb for the quick response to my e-mail. Nothing like having a physician on staff to help with 2nd opinions. Malty, your both helpful and kind. Thanks!

    -Larry
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    Sheesh. I wish.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Good morning everyone. I enjoyed reading last night's little flag discussion. Boy, you guys need to get a life!

    Pat, how 'bout offering state flags so the vast majority of Edmunds' users -- i.e. Americans -- can further identify their whereabouts? (Oh no -- then people might be able to TRACK US DOWN! God forbid!!!) BTW, I'm a little perturbed. Since I live in the Capital of the Confederacy (suh), I'd like a new choice of flag made available. Do I need to say which?

    I had a wonderful, wonderful experience this morning. I pulled in to my neighborhood Exxon and filled up -- and I mean FILLED UP FROM GAS WARNING LIGHT TO "TOPPING OFF THE TANK" -- with $9.75! I didn't even break 10 bucks! 89 cents a gallon -- I can live with this!

    Also was passed by a dark blue P5 this morning on the expressway. Schweet.

    Now, you guys get a life. And stop worrying about me. I'm down by the beach with my tartar sauce and lemon wedge. (Although that lemon wedge's going in my Corona.) Larry, I'll keep my car's cousin in your prayers. And the check's in the mail. (I apologize ... things have been kinda tight in the past few weeks, but it's in the mail this morning.)

    If you really want to see sensitivity in action, get Paul riled up about his car again.

    Meade
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,870
    $0.89/gallon gas! You must have an oil well in your yard. Regular is $1.23 today in Chicago. Damn monopoly oil companies.
  • That has to be the most expensive place in the country to buy gas. I almost choked two summers ago when I had to pay like $2.30 for a gallon (I knew I should have filled up in Indiana!). It is below $.90 here in Atlanta, meaning more zoom zooming. Not so much speeding, but just keeping the car at higher rpm's than usual so I at least think my car is more powerful than it really is!

    I'm with Meade on the state flags, but then again you know us Texans just can't help but flaunt our flag any chance we get. Really, it has to be one of the best looking flags in the states. Simple, yet classic. It is far better than the absolutely ridiculous new flag we have been burdened with in Georgia! In an effort to please everyone, the state created a mess of a flag.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    ... Just a price war in my town. And it ain't just here ... a co-worker surfing the net yesterday told me a place in Michigan had gas for 39 CENTS A GALLON yesterday!

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    ... on the front page of www.auto.com today!

    Meade
  • chicagoprochicagopro Posts: 1,009
    Larry: Actually, I'm a WOMAN of learning (although I don't think that reading a couple of newspapers makes me that smart; if it did, I would have figured out how to be rich and retired a LONG time ago:). Hope your car pulls through well.

    Chicago gas: last week in my neighborhood, I paid 1.39 for regular...haven't checked the price this week, but I'm sure it's not much lower.
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    Don't really understand why Americans complain about gas prices (ChiTown very expensive comment at $1.23???). Of all the countries in the world, it's probably the least expensive place to fill up a tank of gas. Mind you the travel distances are fairly long, but it still does not make up for the b*tch*ng and complaining you guys do about gas prices. Same attitude here in Canada (people go nuts when gas hits $0.70/L), yet it's still so much cheaper than almost everywhere else on Earth. And it's also one of the reasons SUVs and MINIVANS exist. If gas was more expensive, say $1.00 or $1.25/L, you would probably see less V6s, V8s, and trucks (aka SUV's), and more 4-cyl powered mid-class sedans with manual trannies (Mazda 6) and small cars (Proteges).

    My 2 pesos for today.
    Cheers!
    Dinu~
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    We Americans may enjoy relatively low gasoline prices compared to SOME other countries, but we're far, far, far from lowest. Here's a listing of high and low prices (based on US $) I found with a quick Internet search (done in September 2000):

    Global Gas Prices*
    Most expensive per gallon:
    (1 gallon=3.8 L)

    Hong Kong - $5.38
    London, England - $5.05
    Oslo, Norway - $4.54
    Seoul, South Korea - $4.52
    Paris, France - $4.28

    Least expensive per gallon:

    Caracas, Venezuela - $0.40
    Jakarta, Indonesia - $0.45
    Kuwait City, Kuwait - $0.76
    Manama, Bahrain - $0.82
    Abu Dhabi, UAE - $0.92

    *prices as of September 2000

    Meade
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    Ok, let's not go that far at the extremes b/c it's unreasonable. But why complain for paying $1.70 US for 1 gallon? It's really NOT expensive at all! Even $2/gallon is acceptable. A little to much no doubt, but still acceptable...Comes to about $0.78CAD/L. I can live with that.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    ... until you kept going. So here's my logic. We have all the reason in the world to gripe about gas prices because it's a RELATIVE issue.

    If I'm used to paying $1.25 a gallon and suddenly it's $1.70, yes, I'm griping. And I have every reason to. Same as if you're used to paying $3.00 and suddenly it's $4.00.

    I don't think it's the actual PRICE that upsets people. It's the FLUCTUATION ... back in '98 our gas prices dropped to about 95 cents a gallon. In a year's time they were back up to $1.30 or so. Last spring they hit $1.70. Now they're 89 cents. Up, down, up, down. Yeah, we complain when they go up. But give us a little credit ... we've been praising the heck out of our gas prices lately!

    Meade
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    Even though the oil companies operate in a collusive industry, gas prices are more or less determined by what some oil magnate feels like today in the Persian Gulf (or Golf??) region. Yes there are market forces at work, but bottom line is how much pressure the US puts on oil producers to keep prices at acceptable levels (economic and political issues included).

    Even though this goes against my argument (more or less), bottom line is, I believe, that we're pretty lucky not to be paying $1.50/L. And I think that's where the focus should be.

    Fluctuation happens constantly (your gas tank empties and you fill it up, the latest upstart shoots up 200% on the first day as an IPO, while an established 150 years old company files for CH. 11).

    So while it can be upsetting to see that you have to fork aver $5 more to fill-up your tank today compared to yesterday, let;s be thankful that we don't have to pay $20 more/fill-up.

    How's this, Meade?

    Dinu~
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    Here's the URL for fog lights, at least one anyway.


    http://www.piaa.com


    Good site with many to choose from. Here's the direct link, scroll down to Protegé 00-01.


    http://www.piaa.com/showlamps.php3


    And if you want to see a good photo of an APC European tail light kit check this one.


    http://www.autoaccessory.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=167880&cgmenbr=402&from=nav


    I think they make the Pro look like a truck.


    fowler3

  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    Dale, my bad.

    -Larry
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Why does it seem like you're trying to convince me of something?

    Yes, I understand the laws of supply and demand and how gas prices are set. Yes, I'm lucky that I'm not paying $1.50 a litre for gas. Yet I don't care what some other chap is paying in his country. (By the way, that chap also has access to a first-rate public transportation system that is nonexistent over here -- I know, I've used it -- and he also gets twice the annual leave I get. He also has state-funded health care. So who's really lucky?)

    (And why do I see another off-topic debate starting here?)

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Why are you not speaking to me?

    Meade
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    But has anyone else noticed that we haven't had any posts on "Protege Problems" in two weeks?

    I know, I know ... now that I've "knocked on wood," somebody's Protege's gonna explode tonight. Or Larry's gonna hit a ... ummm .... Larry, what HAVEN'T you hit lately?

    Meade
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    Ok. Ok. You did bring up some good points, so we'll leave it at that. You know my pt. of view and I know yours, so let's move on to an "on topic" well...topic. :)

    No more complaining about you complaining about gas prices. (Don't you like the way I put things? - "on topic topic" and now this one).

    Dinu
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    That's why I thought it was odd that you started this debate with me. I was in fact BRAGGING about our LOW gas prices here in Richmond -- 89 cents this morning. It was somebody else who was complaining about their prices still being half a buck higher than mine. You won't find me complaining about gas prices right now!

    Meade
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    Yes Meade someone was complaining about gas prices and I was just waiting for someone to respond to why they are complaining about it. When you did, I guess the discussion just took-off from there, as you can tell. Nothing personal; my original question was why Americans (and to a certain degree Canadians too) complain about gas prices that are in reality nowhere near an alarming rate. ...And then the back and forth started. My bad.

    Anyways, if any of you that think paying $1.50/gallon is expensive would like to enlighten me on why you feel this way, please do.

    Otherwise, let's move on to a more interesting debate/question/request. Like PIAA fog lites: Had a pair installed in my old Civic: they were better than the car's original headlites (not joking at all). In town I drove with the low beam and foglites on, but not the headlites. Kinda like the Audi look for DRL (daytime running lights)>corner markers and fog lites on.

    But as far as the Pro goes, it already came with fog lites, so personally I wouldn't change them, even though they're more for the show than for a driving purpose (I mean they aren't that brite after all).
  • Nice car. Wish I could get it, but it just wasn't that much nicer than my 99 ES w/leather to justify starting over again on payments. I sure did like the functionality of the hatchback though. Also, for some reason the engine seemed louder on this car than mine. Don't know if it was just this car or what. I did like the manual transmission in it a lot better than mine. It seemed much smoother and less notchy.

    BTW, Meade, it looks like I'll have to wait a bit longer on those T4's. The shop called today and said they were not on their last shipment. He is going to try to find some more, but looks like it won't happen this week like I had hoped.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    A '99 ES with LEATHER? How'd you swing that?

    OK on the Yokos. Well, you'll still beat me to 'em, so I look forward to your review. BTW, looks like we'll be buying a P5 in mid- to late-December, so I'll trade ya: You write the Yoko review and I'll review the P5.

    Meade
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
  • chicagoprochicagopro Posts: 1,009
    Don't worry...I've been called worse :)
  • elec3elec3 Posts: 160
    I'm from Chicago, so I've seen the horrid prices the few times we've had to deal with gas approaching $3 a gallon. I also spent my freshman year of college in Indiana, so I saw gas prices get down to as low as 79 cents a gallon. Currently in southern New Mexico, the name brand stations are at about $1.05 while the cheapies are already down to 95 cents. Not too shabby. The thing that bothers me about gas prices is the relative changes. $2 or $3 a gallon is not all THAT awful to pay except that you have no choice but to pay it. You can't buy a substitute product, and there's likely not another way to get where you're going. I think it sucks when you can pay twice as much for a gallon of gas within a calendar year (and I have no doubt that the 90 cents a gallon we're seeing now will hit $1.80 or more within a year). That's the ridiculous part. Also, all you Chicago folks can likely blame taxes for gas prices higher than elsewhere in the country. You're likely paying state, county, city, and maybe even extra luxury taxes on your gas and it easily adds up to a quarter or more a gallon.

    As for Corona, I like it well enough but my experiences with Mexico have convinced me that it's not the premium beer I once thought it was (neither is Dos Equis...sorry). In Mexico, where they make this stuff, they practically give it away and it's not uncommon to find bottles of Corona at bars and restaurants for 75 cents to a dollar (still more expensive than gasoline per volume!). There's a little bar I like to go to in Ciudad Juarez that sells 6 of the little 8 ounce bottles of Dos Equis in a bucket of ice for $3. Now THAT is a good deal :) Makes me feel dumb for spending $4 for a single bottle of Corona in an Iowa City bar a couple years ago.

    PS: Thanks to Meade's wood-knocking observation, I'm thinking about letting my Pro5 sit for the rest of today. I'd hate to have mine be the one that blows up, especially with 4 and a half more years to pay on it ;)
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    ice cream that's rediculously expensive! Hagen Daaz is $3.69 a quart, that's $14.76 a gallon plus tax! And Breyer's is $4.89 a half gallon, making it $9.78 a gallon plus tax. What's in the stuff anyhow... a little milk and sugar. The cream of the crop it isn't.

    dinu01: What about the Pro LX owners who want fog lights, wouldn't the PIAA's be good? Of course, there's Hella, but they have changed their website to serve the automobile industry instead of consumers. No info there.

    Like the MP3 and Protegé5, I think the round white fog lights would be cool. They aren't as large though. :) Speaking of Corona, those big fog lights on the MP3 remind me of the Baja road race cars. Great for spotting roadrunners, coyotes, and banditos...not to mention Taco Bells.

    fowler3
  • fowler3fowler3 Posts: 1,919
    When you get your car home wait a while before you apply wax, let the paint cure.

    fowler3
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