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Try Bossier Country in Fairfield. I ordered a Limited which stickered at $27,835. They sold it to me for $26,000. Pretty good since no other dealer was willing to go below sticker.
Offered me $100 above invoice...
Went with a different brand- but that was a great deal!
David b
00 TLC
91 JCL
02 JLL
Also, I read one of the posts had some info on potential problems, does anyone have more info on those or a website that does.
THANKS
I dont think it will even ship by rail from toledeo to cincy
I also emailed Jeep and asked if they were going to have the crash test results anytime soon. There reply was "The Liberty meets or exceeds all government safety standards, thank you for your interest." What a line of crap.
I found a site yesterday that a guy posted he had gone to Jeep 101 and gotten to see the testing of some Libertys. Some pretty good pictures in there, but for the life of me I can't find the site. I'm going to keep trying. I found it by searching the web for Jeep Liberty and the site was one of the results.
Matt
http://www.curbsite.com/jeep101/jeep101.html
I've been trying to put a picture up here but I'm having a little trouble, help please.
Thanks for the link hotcoffee.
Matt
3 PHOTOS OF RUSTY'S 2-INCH LIFT AND NOTES FROM CAMP JEEP
J.P.
-mad
I certainly hope ABS isn't restricted until Sept. 9th... My Liberty has been on order for 5 weeks, and if ABS is restricted for another month, I'll be lucky to get the Liberty before Thanksgiving!
The truck did seem solid and quiet on the road. I'll be looking at other models, however.
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Thank you in advance for your help. Our 1988 Cherokee was totalled in an accident and we are looking for a replacement. (By the way no injuries in the accident, we were at a stop light and got rear-ended.)
Thanks for the info. I will be checking them. They don't have the website yet to check their inventory like some of the other dealers.
Matt
Assuming a back seat passenger (usually a kid) does manage to put his grape juice can in the holder. He or she, as kids are apt to do, will not finish the juice beyond the first sip. Now, when you arrive at your destination, said child will kick door open swinging it to the hinge limits with juice in tow, splattering ground, Jeep and door. The kid, of coarse won't notice this, if he does, will not tell you, and proceed to slam closed til the door sounds like it hits the opposite coast causing all contents to fling about the cabin of your finely appointed new vehicle.
This is when it becomes a major design flaw.
Matt
as a message to passengers.
After that, no one will worry about cupholders. As for kids, well they'll just have to drink out of spill-proof containers until they get their own vehicle.
-mad
matt
Test Drive Impressions:
--Loved the quiet, smooth pickup
--Seats were not uncomfortable (though I am only 5'9")
--Heated Seats work well. My wife turned the passenger side on while I was driving, and when we switched I felt like my rear was on fire.
--Not sure about the center window controls, it will be an adjustment
One question:
I know insurance is somewhat unpredictable, but what are people paying for their Libs? I'm 25 years old with a clean driving record (suburbs of Chicago)
Can't wait to drive this truck in the Chicago winters!
Unfortunately, I don't have the answer- I had Selec-Trac on my Grand Cherokee and always wondered that as well.
Actuall, if there is no difference in mpg between fulltime 4 and 2wd, why have 2wd at all??
I will await the answer with you.
I'm guessing that 2wd might be better for towing, but until there's a definitive anwer, I'm on that answer list, too.
Traditionally, "part time" meant that you should only use it part time. What Jeep means in the the Liberty is that transfer case engages "part of the time"... thus preventing lock-up. Stupid terming, I know. Their "full time" position actually locks the axles for offroad use. All this is opposite to the common terms for AWD and 4WD.
I discovered this on a test drive, and you can too. Put the thing in PT (first position out of 2wd) and try to drive forward and turn the wheel. You will notice little resisitance to this since the axles don't lock. THen put it into FT (next position) and you will notice that the axles lock up and it is hard to turn.
Kirk
I believe (at least on the Grand Cherokee) the 2wd and FULL TIME 4wd shift positions are in GREEN lettering because they are okay to use on dry pavement. ALL other positions are YELLOW for use on loose surfaces only.
I have been told this is the case...
I'll ask this question in JGC section and get back.
In Selec-trac the order of options is 2wd-Part Time 4x4 (High)-Full Time 4x4-Neutral-Part Time 4x4 (Low).
2WD is two wheel (rear wheel) drive, Part Time 4x4 (High) has a locked centre differential that puts 50% of the power to the front and back and does not vary, Full Time 4x4 has on open centre differential which initially starts out as a 50/50% split and can change, Neutral is for towing the vehicle behind a motorhome and Part Time 4x4 Low is for real fun in heavy conditions.
Part Time 4x4, which is yellow (for caution), can only be used on loose surfaces because when you turn a corner the front wheels travel farther than the back, causing binding along the drive line. Most likely the wheel will pull and the tires will hop if you use it on pavement. Do not do this for long periods of time or at all. Full Time 4x4, green, allows you to have all 4 wheels with power but allows for a transfer from front to rear so that you can take corners and use it at all times at any speed. If you crank the wheel all the way over and give it power you will get mild hopping (like Part Time) because it can't transfer enough to the back to keep minor binding from occuring. I was told by a tech not to worry about it. Part Time 4x4 in Low mode, yellow, gives approximately 4x the torque to the wheels to get you into or out of sticky situations. You can't go very fast, but you have tons of power. It also locks the centre like 4x4 Part Time High.
In addition, the rear axle can be equipped with Trak-loc, which is a Limited Slip Differential. It will only let one wheel spin for a short amount of time before a clutch in the differential grabs and transfers power over to the non-spinning wheel.
All this information is in the Owner's Manual, btw. Also take a look at the 4wd Systems Explained topic. There's a lot of info in there.
I believe the issue is more in the difference the INSIDE and OUTSIDE tires rotate in a turn that causes the binding, not front/back, but nevertheless the info is right.
See the lst couple of posts on the Grand Cherokee board for similar info.
Or, as one suggested look at http://www.jeepunpaved.com
or, god forbid- the dreaded owners manual.... of which I nad none.
Getting into and out of 4-Lo is a little different. I usually start from 4x4 PT High or Full Time. You're supposed to coast at a few mph, put the tranny in neutral and while coasting, move the lever to the right and down past 4x4 Neutral and into 4-Lo. I usually get a small "bump" in the drive train when I do this. Sort of like putting a standard transmission into reverse from a stop. Taking it out is the same put reversed once again.
Once again, most of this is from the owner's manual.