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Mazda Protege5

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  • Just wondering whether everyone goes to their dealer to get their regular maintenance done. After the warranty expires I likely wont visit my dealer much, except for the odd repair. The reason I ask is because I want to move to synthetic oil for my Pro5, and would prefer to go to the mechanic of my choice to get all of my regular maintenance done. Of course, I don't want to have a problem in 2 years and have Mazda claim that its because I didn't go to Mazda for service. Any thoughts? Thanks...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    They can't legally make that claim. As long as you follow their scheduled maintenance, you're ok. Keep good records, including receipts.

    We have two Mazdas, and honestly? Mazda parts are so overpriced it's ridiculous. An O2 sensor was $220 at one dealer, and I later found an aftermarket equivalent for $70. A new gas cap for my Miata was something like $28, while most cost $5 (could not find one that fit the Miata, though). Next time I'll shop on-line, Perma-cap models sell for $10.

    But basically their markup is about 200%, it seems. A lady in line in front of me paid more than $8 for a lousy oil filter. Hard to find one that costs more than $4-5.

    By all means, find a better source.

    -juice
  • hurler4hurler4 Posts: 104
    newcar31, is it ok to use Mobil 1 for transmission fluid in the P5? I change my own transmission fluid (I have an Altima, but am thinking of getting the P5), and cannot use Mobil 1 becauise it is an API Service GL-5 lubricant. My Altima can only take a GL-4. Is the Maxda GL-5 compatible?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think so. My Miata and my 626 have been fine with Mobil 1 gear oil 75w90, which indeed is GL5. That's what both call for, actually.

    -juice
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    absolutely. ateixeria is right, they use GL5.
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    In *principle*, you could do the regular maintenance anywhere, just keep the receipts in case you need to prove it. In practice, I have heard some stories which show the contrary! Personally, I brought my P5 to my local Mazda dealer for regular maintenance. On the side note, for my previous car, a Civic, the Honda dealer accepted I bring my own oil. I never try this tactic with Mazda though.

    Bruno
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    I do all of the regular maintenance myself. If I do an oil change, I staple the dated receipt for the motorcraft filter to the dated receipt for the Mobil 1 and write the mileage down on the receipt. The dealer cannot deny warranty service if you keep records. Besides, if you do it yourself, you know it was done right and you shouldn't have a problem. On top of that, oil related failures are very, very rare if the oil changes were performed regularly and correctly.
  • mnkyboymnkyboy Posts: 108
    I usually change the oil in my car, but after reading the Owners Manual for the Protege 5, it states that the car must not be on a incline when changing oil. I usally ride the front right tire onto a ramp, then change the oil. What do you use to raise the car with? Is it necessary to jack the car up on all fours, and put stands underneath?

    I never even looked under the car to see where the drain plug is. If I do the ramp thing, will all of the oil drain out? One of my old cars had the drain plug in such a way that the oil wouldnt fully drain unless you had the car completely level.

    Any info or tips?
  • Thanks for all of your comments. Actually, I was really thinking more of the other maintenance items other than the oil change. I haven't been to Mazda yet for a simple oil change. The other stuff, like the 24,000km (or equivilent) suggested maintenance has many more checks and what I would consider minor, yet likely important, items. I worry that if I don't get those things done at Mazda, or if a separate mechanic doesn't do *every* single thing on Mazdas maintenance list then I could get denied a warranty claim. Any thoughts?

    Hmm - I drive the car so damn much that my warranty will be up in 2 years anyway, so maybe I shouldn't worry so much :)
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    I don't know about that, I've always been able to change my oil on a level surface at my old job (Jiffy Lube). I've never had to jack it up to change the oil, but I can't see why you shouldn't. From the looks of the oil pan and the fact that the plug is on the back, it seems you would get more oil out by having the front end in the air. The owner's manual also says that you need a "special tool" for the oil filter so you should have the dealer do it....Yeah right!!!

    Other maintenance is the same thing. The only tangible things Mazda will do is: Change radiator fluid, air filter, transmission fluid, spark plugs, fuel filter, lube all hinges, etc. With the exception of the fuel filter, most people could do all of that themselves and as long as you document the work you should be OK. Thats what I plan on doing because the dealer charges ridiculous prices for these services and "inspections".
  • SporinSporin Posts: 1,066
    Since the oil drain plug is at the bottom, back of the pan, having it up on ramps should be even more effective then having it flat.

    You DO NOT need a special tool to remove the oil filter.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    My tip: I use ramps, but my driveway is on an incline, so I drive down the ramp, making the car level again.

    Find a nice incline, at about the angle of your ramps.

    -juice
  • Thanks for your thoughts. I actually don't plan on doing any of this myself. I live in an apartment, and really have nowhere to do car maintenance. But I would plan to have a separate, and more reasonably priced mechanic do everything. So I guess I should be okay, as long as I get full documentation on what they did. I guess I could just take my Mazda maintanence booklet and go to my mechanic and tell him to do everything on the list....
  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    How is your exhaust looks like? Mine is a little bit dark on the bottom. I wonder if I have to make them check the injection and ignition during my next visit of Mazda dealer.

    Bruno
  • cappykcappyk Posts: 10
    Has anyone replaced their stock mirror with the Mazda accessory? If so, where does the mirror tap into the electrical system? The map lights?

    Where is the temperature sensor? Outside the car I assume...but where? I really don't wish to get into a wiring nightmare.

    Thanks,

    Cappy
  • While interior sections got "dumped on" we just got a light "dusting" of snow here on the southeastern coast of NC. And my p5 did just fine in its first snow! lol Always cool to see palm trees, spanish moss and snow together... surreal. later
  • mustang87mustang87 Posts: 129
    Because i am originally from ukraine :)
  • mustang87mustang87 Posts: 129
    Mine is the same way and I thought it was only dirt.
  • I had a great driving experience today on my way back down to school. There was fairly moderate traffic on the highway, and I spotted an mp3. what a beauty. I was definitely jealous of the nice exhaust and the red roll bar that was slightly visible under the car. can't wait to get those put on my mp5. anyways...i drove up next to my fellow zoomer, gave him a thumbs up, moved up to let him admire my car...both blue beauties....and for the next forty minutes drafted off each other as we zoom zoomed down the freeway. I'm sure it was a great site to see mp3 and mp5 together. I was smiling the whole way.

    ciao bisous!
    boopoppa

    PS: i too have black smudginess on the bottom part of exhuast tip. i figure it's just exhaust grime and heat stain.
  • Nice! I might as well share an "experience" as well. I bought my blue P5 back in July - been great. I am often parked on my girlfriends street during the evenings and weekends, so I notice the cars parked at houses on her street. Shortly after I bought my P5, a blue MP3 showed up in the driveway of a house a few doors down. Very nice - the guy loves it and is totally paranoid about keeping looking brand new! Then about a month later, a red P5 showed up in front of the house next door to the MP3! Now, just last month my girlfriends brother just bought a 2002 Protege LX, and its always parked in the driveway or on the street. Funny how one small street can all of a sudden be overcome with all three flavours of the Protege, in less than 6 months :)
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