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The IS has an impressive lineup of standard interior features such as a 13-speaker premium audio system with an in-dash, six-disc CD changer and an auxiliary input for iPods or MP3 players, separate driver and passenger climate controls, HomeLink®, direct tire-pressure monitor, outboard rear- seat pretensioner seatbelts, steering wheel audio controls and Optitron gauges with personalized shift and speed settings.
If the front seat fits like a glove, and I can jam the kids in the back, the boss may have to approve an increase in the budget. One I drive one, I doubt I will be able to settle for a 4 cyl Fusion or Accord!
Anyway, I don't think my 14yo son will complain too much about the rear seat room, since in 2 years he will get to learn to drive on it!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
looks like about 500 a month for a 3 year lease with nothing down
or... about 100 less than the 325xi
I'll see you at the dealer on friday for the test drive
All of that is standard on every model.... and the entry point is $29.9K + $6xx destination? Impressive. The IS250 may not be the most powerful at 204 horses, but its probably adequate for most, especially given the strong fuel efficiency numbers, and a very impressive value proposition. Now, I just need a raise....
~alpha
he did not know the prices, and I told him about the press release
he figured about 3k more for ML/NAV, but did not know about other options
so fully loaded IS250awd 38K
Don't you think he should know more that I do about this? Isn't he the salesman?
~alpha
I'm also very impressed/pleased with the gas mileage of the 250.
Sigh, I still wish the big engine model had a real transmission though.
As I think about it -- and from reading some of the posts here -- I think the reason he couldn't give me firmer numbers on the option prices was because at the time Lexus hadn't yet determined exactly what was going to be standard on what models. It does seem that Lexus first determined target prices for the models and then decided (in fact, it looks like they decided only at the last moment) what standard features will be included with what models.
Bottom line, I think they've come up with very competitive prices. If I just convince myself that (1) I occassionally need backseats in my "every day" car and (2) that the back seats in the IS350 are acceptable, then I'm getting one.
The car sounds really attractive if a price converter hold true.
The IS350 starts at $36,000. There is no way that the premium luxury plus package + navi + levinson + PCS is only $6000. Those things will add at least $10,000 to the price.
I just configured a 2.0 Audi A4 quattro Manual (for comparison)
MSRP 29,740
Packages:
Sunroof package $1,400
Premium package $1,850
Technology package $1,775
Cold weather package $400
Individual options:
Destination Charge $720
Walnut wood interior trim $40
Total A4 2.0 manual as configured $36,760
The IS 250 all-wheel drive MSRP is $34,285!!!! and I believe that it includes all the options of the A4 above. Also, if I am not mistaken (correct me gang if I am wrong), the IS 250 AWD only comes in automatic, thus I would have to add another $1,200 to the Audi, which would bring the total price of the A4 to $37,960.........whoaoooaooo our new baby just came $3,675 under the similar equipped A4.
Any idea how much a similar 325xi will go for?????
Bob (as in Bob Carter VP of Lexus), I know that you do read these posts......please please include folding seats in the IS line up in the very near future (like in the 2006.5 updates :>)). They are indeed a huge asset to the car practicality. You include those seats, and you will gain even more followers in this segment. Just tell your ingeeniers to include two hinges and that's all!!!! I need them for the golf clubs, luggage when I pick family and friends from the airport, to pack the xmas gift for the whole family, uhmmm ohhhh, I almost forgot, when I go to IKEA to buy furniture. Give it to me Bob don't be stingy!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll see you all at the dealer!!!
MSRP $33,495
Premium Package+ $2,900
Cold Weather Package+ $850
STEPTRONIC Automatic Transmission+ $1,275
Comfort Access+ $500 (keyless start/entry)
Power Front Seats w/Driver Memory+ Included
Fold Down Rear Seats w/Ski Bag+ Included
Heated Front Seats+ Included
Xenon Adaptive Headlights+ $800
BMW Assist with Bluetooth® Wireless Technology+ Included
Holy cow! that is $6,010 over the IS250. At that price, I can do without "the ultimate driving experience" and buy they wifey an used minivan if she complains about the back seats of the Lexus.
I would still need my folding seats though
R
I can't wait for the dealer to get prices and residuals so that I can get the actual lease price!
Base 350 - $35440
Destination ~$650
Premium Luxury Plus w/ 17's - $3495
Premium Luxury Plus w/18's - $4215
Performance Luxury Plus (listed as sport package by your dealers) - $3695
Navigation - $2550
Parking Assist - $500
Mark Levinson (yes, it IS listed as a stand alone option) - $940
18" Wheels with summer tires - $720
Headlight Washers - $100
Nav+ML package $3990 - which is actually more than the options separately, so there may be a mistake here. Figure $3490 is the more accurate number for the NV option code.
Best as I can tell, the only thing missing form a base IS250 6 speed is heated seats, and I can live without those if I have to.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
The TL is a good choice. Enjoy.
~alpha
330i (Premium Pack., Cold Pack., Auto, Comfort Access, Sunshade, Park distance control, Navi, 6 CD changer): $46,305
I think that's as similar as you can equip them.
As mentioned, the IS has things that the 330i does not, but the 330i does have some things like split fold rear seats and free maintenance that the IS does not offer.
~alpha
Premium Luxury Plus w/ 17's: $3,495
Heated/ventilated/perforated seats
Memory for seats, mirrors, and wheel
Auto-dimming outside mirrors with tilt-down
Illuminated aluminum scuff plates
Wood trim
AFS/HID
Rain-sensing wipers
Power tilt/telescope wheel
Power rear sunshade
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Parking assist: $500
Headlight washers: $100
Navi/ML: $3,990
Total: $44,175
If the base (29.9K) 250 manual really has dual 10 way power seats, leather and roof standard, it is a significant reduction in price from the IS300, comparably equipped.
Although I'm sure I would have to order a base car w/o any options. I wouldn't mind heated seats, but not if it requires 3K of other fluff, and I don't care about HID lights (can take or leave them).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Ventilated seats would probably be nice though.
How long do you think dealers are going to be selling at MSRP?
IS250 RWD Auto w/ Destination: $31,810
Premium Luxury Plus w/ 17's: $3,495
Heated/ventilated/perforated seats
Memory for seats, mirrors, and wheel
Auto-dimming outside mirrors with tilt-down
Illuminated aluminum scuff plates
Wood trim
AFS/HID
Rain-sensing wipers
Power tilt/telescope wheel
Power rear sunshade
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Parking assist: $500
Headlight washers: $100
Navi/ML: $3,990
Total: $39,895
It "really" does. Unless Toyota itself is lying.
"The new IS incorporates a number of standard features available only as options on many competitive vehicles, including leather-trimmed interior, power moonroof and SmartAccess with push-button start. In addition, driver and front passenger 10-way power seats are also standard on all IS models."
http://pressroom.toyota.com/Releases/View?id=TYT2005101147175
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I'll wait to see what hits the lots.
Most of them will have one of the big packages, I bet.
And the 10-way power seat doesn't mean it has memory settings? So you have to buy a $3500 package?
Low base prices but overpriced option package prices?
Strangely, they don't get 6th should be a tall cruising gear (great mileage) and 4th and 3rd are available for instant power.
Premium Luxury Plus w/ 17's: $3,495
17inch: 500?
Heated/ventilated/perforated seats : 300
Memory for seats, mirrors, and wheel : 200
Auto-dimming outside mirrors with tilt-down: 150
Illuminated aluminum scuff plates: 50
Wood trim: 250
AFS/HID: 600
Rain-sensing wipers: 250
Power tilt/telescope wheel: 200
Power rear sunshade: 200
This package shouldn't cost more than $2500. By their charging $3500 for this, Lexus is probably making at least $1500 on this package.
and I'm sure this is the case for everywhere, but there's no stripped down Lexus where I live. I'd be curious to know if dealers will actually carry base model :rolleyes:
automatic trans
heated/ventilated cooled seats
roof
leather / wood interior trim.
It looks like Lexus decided to "low-ball" the base prices and make up there money on the options. To be honest, not a bad marketing strategy. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll be seeing many "stripped" models at the dealerships. I guess we can debate the ethics of the marketing strategy but, for better or worse, I'm going to bet it is successful.
Lexus expects to sell 40K a year ? Make that sold out already !!!
If you want an IS350 in your config start dialing a friendly dealer and get on the waiting line. 90 day-wait is what you will be looking at, but the reward will be well worth the wait.
Good job, Lexus.... Let the competition begin !!!
I doubt it. This is a HIGHLY competitive segment, and no car remains at MSRP for a year in this class.
My guess is MSRP for a couple months at the most (maybe a bit longer for the 350), then gradual and increasing discounts. I expect discounting at about the same rate as the 2006 GS ($1000 to $2000 over invoice by the six month mark).
Yep, 2 months tops. The car's price will come down like everything else in this segment.
My guess is MSRP for a couple months at the most (maybe a bit longer for the 350), then gradual and increasing discounts. I expect discounting at about the same rate as the 2006 GS ($1000 to $2000 over invoice by the six month mark).
Agreed. By May of 06 I expect to be able to get any IS for 1500-2k below MSRP.
I disagree, jrock. I don't typically disagree with you, but I will here. Why ?
The new IS350 (that's what I am talking about) are produced in such small quantity, and with a list price under $36K only a $1K diff from the AWD trim, you can expect many would-be AWD buyer going for the 350. Where would they find one ? Lexus ain't going to make enough IS350 to satisfy demand, and then what happens to price ???
Unlike the new GS with carry-over engines (430) and anemic one (300), both slated for change within 18 months, Lexus has no choice but to move them at a discount. The IS does not have such issue. The equipment level of the IS350 rivals even an LS430, it is even faster than its V8-powered, higher-priced GS430/LS430 so I expect demand for this car to outpace supply....significantly...
Guess we'll see....
I'd imagine the 250s will be below sticker in short order, and the 350 will follow in a couple months, if the pricing info thus far is close to accurate.