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Also, I finance through AHFC for 6.09% for 60 months. Capital One could not beat that. :shades:
I got a quote for the same at 19,540 + Doc fee + Ttl + Tax.
BTW, I did the same thing as you're planning with my own financing and no trade-in.
Call around or email dealers around you and see if you can't beat that price.
Good luck.
Is the Warranty advertised on myhondawarrantly legit? Will I be able to get my car fixed at any Honda dealership no problem? Thank you.
The OTD Price the dealer quoted for that car is 24,498.00 . This includes (Lojack, Tinted Glass and Some digi (Clearshield like) packages). They wouldn't do it without them ( I test drove the car without the packages in).
Guess what, after agreeing to a final figure of 24,298.00, and I went to the dealer, they were adding a spoiler, some undercar protection, fog lights (he showed me the car in the back he couldn't do anything - to give him some benefit of doubt, I was late with my price by like ONE HOUR) which jacked up the price to more than 2000 dollars.
And he said that people buy this kind of stuff right now for a civic. I got so frustated with this deal, and walked away. This was Vandergriff Honda in Arlington, TX.
The damn car was costing me 27,000 dollars and I wouldn't want to pay that much for any kind of civic (I never wanted those extra packages anyway).
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A very nice buying experience. I love this car. Cheers. :shades:
Try calling around your area and sending off email/internet requests for price quotes. Just make sure you're getting honest quotes and not some lowball quote that turns out too good to be true. It would be a huge waste of your time to drive out of town, show up and have the dealer try to rip you off with add-ons or hidden costs.
2006 Civic Ex Coupe AT, brought it on 9/2/06 from massachusetts:
I think this by far the best deal so far that I've read amongst all the posts. Other dealers were telling me msrp also, but I think with the 2007 coming out any day now, they're willing to get rid of the 2006 for, in this case, 400 over invoice.
Price paid:
MSRP - 21355
Extras (some value package included 30 percent tint, wheel safety nuts, waterproof cargo area cover and splash guards etc) - 300
Taxable Total - 21655
State Sales Tax: 1353.44
Dealer inventory tax: 44.63
Dealer documentary fee: 50.00
Vehicle inspection fee: 21.75
License/ Title Fees: 92.80
Road and Bridge Deputy Fee: 17.50
Sub Total: 23235.12
That was the lowest I could see for this region. Obviously, people paid either more or less.
BTW, put more than 700 miles on it already and all of them highway miles. Gave 37.3 mpg for the first 785 miles.
Love the Navi. Voice recognition is a little clumsy, but, you have to get used to it ( and find shortcuts). Found the directions perfectly. It just COULDN'T find Starbucks Coffee shop even right under its' nose. Other than that, no complaints so far.
Any prices paid or suggestions appreciated.
Thank you.
LOL, that's a new one.
Mickey, Did you get a 2006 Civic EX Sedan w/Navi including destination charge for $19,540? That is $37 dollars below the invoice. That is a better deal than mine, where did you get it?
the color we wanted(silver). So, we had to drop the offer. Now, we are in the market for a silver one.
+ (doc + ttl = $279) from Honda North, Danvers. Someone if
interested in Gray color can still find a good deal from
Boch Honda much better than what I paid.
Looks like the increase is $250 for all except Navi which is $500. No prices were released for Hybrid or Si.
Tired but happy ... seems like an awsome car after nursing a '95 Mustang 11 years and 140,000 miles.
Many people are buying the Ford Focus (lotsa options) for about 12-13k. Slick little car. No Civic to be sure but the civic is certainly not 5-6k more car. ($5000+ worth of gas will get us 70000+ miles?) Insurance cost is helpful too. Focus may also be slightly larger.
We're not talking high end Mercedes, Lexus, Acura ,BMW etc. Looking down from that lofty level there is a little quality difference between the Focus and Civic as well as a little performance diff. .. but from that perspective they are both just little basic transportation cars with one more than $5000 less.
--happy hunting
--jjf
The Civic is a nice car, but not $24K to $27K nice. I even question its value at anything over $20K, as there are plenty of very fine Asian larger mid-size cars that can be had for that kind of money, including Accords. Heck, you can buy an Accord VP here for $16K.
The problem with the INITIAL price is that people rarely look at the big picture. I'm sure you plan on driving it "until the wheels fall off", as do many of my customers, but in reality the average trade cycle is 3 years these days.
Sure the Focus is a nice car, but try explaining how similar it is to a Civic when you try to trade it in or sell it. Again, public perception is reality...
T
I also looked at special ordering a Corolla S to have ABS and side air bags. It would have been about the same pricing, but with a 3-4 months waiting period. I tested both cars out. I liked the simple interior design of Corollas, the engine is a bit louder and acceleration was okay. I didn't like the dashboard of the Civic, but enjoyed driving it very much, very smooth acceleration especially compared to a 95 civic and better sound system to Corollas. The nice drive actually distracted me from the weird dashboard, I enjoyed the quick handling and quick acceleration on the highway, very responsive and made me completely forget about the spaceship-like interior.
As for sales people, I looked at several dealers around the area. Most of the Toyota sales were helpful but no one wanted to special order a car and brushed off the idea and wanted to sell whatever they can from their lot.
As for Honda, all but one dealership didn't really care for my business and wouldn't let me test drive anything because all models were spoken for by someone else; even though I called ahead and asked if they have available models to specifically test drive. I also had to point out that I checked their online inventory for them to admit that they have certified used 06 models and 2-3 unspoken for me to test or at least look at. One of the sales person didn't even know that there's a sedan Civic Si coming out.
I ended up picking the Civic since it would be a quicker order and the car drives a bit better with less road noise and better acceleration and standard safety features.
I gotta agree that perception is reality. Witness people begging dealers for 500 off msrp. For a little commuter car.
% resale off msrp after 3 years is meaningless as the Focus normally sells about 4k-5k off anyway.
Many people are smarter than this. A 17500 MSRP Focus purchased for 12-13000 (not uncommon with rebates and some dealing) is a 10000 car in a year. 2000-3000+ depreciation.
If you think a decent deal (around MSRP now? 500 off?) on a Civic is only going to wholesale in a year for 1500 less than what people can buy a new one for ..... Or better yet you will drive it for 2 years and get 200 more than what you paid new... Sounds like what the former salesman in me would emphasize but...
Good deals on both will have us eating about $3000 on both autos in a year at trade in. Perhaps the Focus owner will eat less or a little more off *purchase* price in 3 yrs. (Of course the civic will have ~$5000-6000 more initial payout for nowhere near ~$5000 more car... and of course that is ~70000 miles in gas... up front or financed at 5-8% no less) I don't know what the insurance diff is. Gets worse if the Focus is a bit roomier inside which I would not swear to.
Due to the lower price after 3-5 years I'll stand a much better chance selling the Focus in the paper than trading it (wholesaling it).. thats probably 400-1500 right there. After 4-5 years due to $5000+ less investment, I may be able to drop full coverage altogether.
Civic is a better car...no doubt about it. Perhaps $1400-2000 more car than the Focus , but nowhere near 5000-6000 more car. Debating quality and especially performance issues etc on 4dr small commuter sedans is unproductive... we aren't talking Lexus-Mercedes here.
Get an inexpensive small car to save on gas, tool around town and get to work.
--jjf
Let me know how the resale on that Focus works out for you lol...
The problem with the INITIAL price is that people rarely look at the big picture. I'm sure you plan on driving it "until the wheels fall off", as do many of my customers, but in reality the average trade cycle is 3 years these days.
Sure the Focus is a nice car, but try explaining how similar it is to a Civic when you try to trade it in or sell it. Again, public perception is reality...
The problem isn't what KBB says trade-in is though, and the salesman in you should know that.
Every newer Ford we take in, whether through auction or trade is at MINIMUM three thousand below KBB wholesale. Honda on the other hand, is close to book. Even Toyota (which I sell and own), isn't as strong as Honda with relation to wholesale book.
So again, looking at pure book value you are right, but looking at ACTUAL value, the Civic will hold significantly more value in the short term.
Like I said, try and trade a Focus in on something WITHOUT heavy discounts and rebates (so they can't hide actual value). Then you'll see a more realistic view of the situation.
Better yet, look at Manheim auction values if you have access. The Civic crushes the Focus by a huge margin (even taking into account what you buy it for).
Again, I am a Toyota guy, but this is reality.
The Civic continues to dominate in resale.
T
I live in GA, the lemon law does not help to return my car...beacuse it have not even been in the shop yet (i SUPPOSED TO HAVE AN APPOINMENT WITH THEM TO FIX IT NEXT TUESDAY, BUT THE ENGINE LIGHT CAME UP TO DAY)
Together with that they sold me the car with a contract that is subject to aproval, and they just ask me after a week that they need that my co signer have to go like primary...because my credit is not enough so I have to do paper work again..will that be my way to finish with this nightmare?
So if i refuse to make a new contract they just have to keep the car, and thay don't suppose to charge nothing to me?
I need help as soon as possible, if someone know about this, or had the same situation I will apreciate advises...I do not wanna keep a "new problem car"
please help
Be polite about it, and advise them that if you cannot be on the contract first, you wish to persue other options.
They can still charge you per mile/day you've had the car "bailment", and if they sold your trade (if you had one), can just keep the difference, but most dealers aren't as bad as people like to think we are... and will let that stuff go.
The critical thing is to be NICE with them. Don't get into an arguing match. You WILL lose.
You need to find out if they have a "cashable" contract or not. If they don't, you shouldn't have a problem. Just don't under any circumstances sign a new one.
T
My name is the primary in the contract and my husband is the co signer, They bank did not aprove me like buyer, because I do not have any credit, and I am already looking for a job, but they wanted to sell the car so bad that saturday the they aprove it even with me like a primary.
The car during the first week had several problems, it is my very first car and after this I am really dissapointed.
They want to put my husband like primary, but we do not want ot keep the car after all this problems with the engine and electric stuff, so we are trying to run out of the first contract that it was subject to aproval and Now we know that they can not aprove it with me like buyer, so, we think if we dont sign the new contract where they want my husband like primary is our chance to leave the car and probably we can get out of this "problem"
Do you thing that it will be my exit?
I am a new buyer and I do not know too much about car deals..and laws
than you very much!!!!
sam
is that better fot me?
:confuse:
Just explain to them that it is very important that you be first on the loan, and that it worked out for the best because you are unhappy with the car anyway.
Make sure to be as polite and calm as possible, and if you can, seem a little sad (not mad, just dissapointed) they couldn't get the contract done the way you'd hoped.
To sweeten your position, tell them you plan on buying from them when your situation improves.
It shouldn't be too hard, and let us know how it turns out.
T
than you very much :P
No car manufacturer, anywhere, will build perfect cars 100% of the time. A perfect car, of course, is still a matter of perception of the buyer.
I paid MSRP + TTL, etc.. + another $3500 (upside down on a Dodge Ram trade) for my 2006 EX MT Coupe. Don Ayers, Fort Wayne, IN.
I had a rattle in the a-pillar, and several scratches and dull spots in the paint -- and had to wait a week for the first visit, when they ordered parts, and another 2 weeks to get back for them to install the new parts. No biggie.
A busy shop means a quality shop.
The best part of all this is that all this work is FREE (at least for the first 3 years)!!!
I've read on this board where people are expecting Honda to issue recalls for engine mount clunking, alignment, and several other little piddly things.
Guys, get some perspective. Imagine if in your job, you did something 150,000 times a year (can't imagine it would be as complex as assembling a car - my job certainly isn't) and tell me that you would do it perfect EVERY SINGLE TIME. I think I would pop under that pressure.
Give the guys in Marysville a brake [sp] and let your dealer fix you up properly. As long as the car is safe to drive, ignore the little annoying light and enjoy it. Make the arrangements so they are convienent to you and your dealer and have patience.
Honda will treat you right.
Notice, I am speaking of the service/technical people. You are on your own with the business office.
I never wanted to say what car it was or the brand...But it was not a civic, it was a beetle, i post my SOS but nobody of that forum give me a hand, in spite that they had even more issues with the car than me..
Thank you my friends...for alll the help...
now i need to get a new car but I will try to get a Mazda 3 or honda civic,,,,,
thank u thank u
by bye :lemon: car......
I highly reccomend either of the cars you mentioned.
Personally the Civic is the wiser choice (and remember I work for a Toyota store hehe, but the Corolla is stale product for the moment).
Look at the resale values between the two (Mazda and Honda) and it should tell you all you need to know!
T
1) destination charge ( will it be included in MSRP )
2) tax
3) licence
4) administration fee ( some dealers seem to charge that!! what is it?)
I appreciate your inputs.
thanx
This is my first car purchase. How did I do, honestly?
Also, does anybody know what kind of rate I can get from Honda financing? My salesperson said he wasn't too sure. I have 800+ credit. I work for a bank and my employee rate would be 6% but I can't find a rate on the Honda Financial Services website. Any input would be appreciated!
MSRP: 17,260 (will be 200 more since she used 06 prices)
Tax: 1,121.00
License: 226.00
Title Transfer: 33
Document: 50.00
Total: 18690.00
there's destination and handling, but i think that's often included in the MSRP. There will probably added on accessories at the time of purchase like paint/rust protection, warranties, and whatnots that are optional.
I'm planning to go through either Capital One and Wells Fargo for auto loans. Anyone have good/bad experiences with either ones? Any other Recommendations?
Similary, the cheapest insurance quote I've gotten online is Farmer's Insurance in Minnesota. Most expensive is American Family Ins. Any experiences or advices will be greatly appreciated.
Never will I finance through anyone but my local credit union. Have you tried Honda finance?
We financed through Honda, which gave us a rate about .15% less than our credit union. I think we did 7.6%.
Overall, the buying experience was okay, but not great. It took way too long to close the deal considering that we determined through email that they had the exact car we wanted and we had already settled on a price. We didn't have to test drive and we were pre-approved for a loan. But it still took three hours to get the car.
The dealership only offered me $500 for trade-in on my old trust Nissan Maxima, but CarMax had already offered me $2,000, so I'll be taking it there to sell it.
We forgot our checkbook (and it was too far to drive in rush hour traffic to go back home for it), so we tried to put the downpayment on our MasterCard, but the dealership would only let us put $2,000 on credit. I have to go back by there today to drop off a check for the balance of the downpayment.