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What do you think will happen when the incentives expire on 11/03/14? (I almost bought a sport at the end of Sept but didn't do to an issue at the dealership).
There are still about 30 new sports within 30 miles of me (Maryland) and I haven't pulled the trigger yet.
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What do you think should be a good price for 2015 Honda accord EX-L in Dallas? Does the price $25,600 seems reasonable to you? I also checked the 2014 prices, and the best I got on 2014 accord EX-L was $23,500; both prices are without options, taxes, destination, etc. Please give me your input. Also, I'm wondering if waiting a few more weeks for 2014 model makes sense? do you think there will be price drop in November or December on the 2014 models? Thanks for your help!
Most educated buyers should get close to invoice price or a couple hundred below dealers invoice price in Oct and Nov.
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If you plan on keeping this vehicle more than 7 years consider the savings on the 2014 model.
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Hi Jose1981, can you please share the name of the dealer you got that price from?
Can anyone comment on 2014 Honda accrd EX-L w/o nav price 24,484.00(with dest fee) in illinois. Is it a good price?
Good Luck!
Anything is possible but in the real buying world probably not. Dealers will laugh at your 19,500 offer especially if a dealer has limited sport models on there lot. Your asking for a 3k below dealers invoice. That price might be do-able at the end of DEC, if you catch the right dealership that needs to get there end of the year / 4th quarter sales incentives.
Invoice price = 22,435 plus 790 dest charge = 23,225.
Start your negotiations at 20k be firm and see how that goes... If need be work your way up from the 20k Number. You lose a lot of leverage after tonight with tomorrow being the 1st of the month.
Let me know how you make out.
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I got the internet quote below for 14 Accord EXL no navigation.
I'm about to visit the dealer to purchase, how much should I make it lower than the quote when negotiating? Should I take it as it is?
$ 24,085.00 *! Internet Price ( include Honda destination charge)
$ Tax not collected on out of State sales
$ 599.00 Documentation Fee
$ 4.00 State Fees ( Lemon Law )
$ 24,688.00 Total
I was looking for a 2014 EX-L but most of them are gone it looks like.
Genesis base is about the same price as Accord EX-L V6?
I see the invoice price on edmunds.com for 2015 EX-L as 26,800. (incl 790 dest charge.)
When you say 396 below "dealer invoice" price, is that different?
does the dealer not pay 790 dest charge as well?
Good price......................................... make this deal. Your 2k below invoice.
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Target price range 2k to 3k below.
Genesis compared to Accord.. I would need to look into a low end Genesis model to see how it stacks up to Loaded Accord model amenity wise...... what I can tell you is ;
The Genesis............... Is bigger inside , much quieter, faster, more luxurious and the Genesis lexicon radio system is to die for with 18 speakers and Amp. Best warranty in the auto Industry. Resale value not as good as a Honda. If you could afford the extra coin I recommend buying a 2014 Genesis.
You could get a awesome deal on a 2014 Genesis. Buying a Genesis is stepping up in class.
Test drive one you wont be disappointed.
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Dest/ charge of 790 dollars is added onto the vehicles invoice price. All buyers pay this charge not the dealerships.
Usually dealerships tack this charge onto the final bill of sale after a agreed price.
Summing up your question..... before I negotiate any car deal I always find out the dest/ charge and all targeted dealerships doc fee charges .
I then add dest/ charge onto the invoice price of said vehicle...... Then I subtract my target price to buy off that number. This makes less confusion when negotiating a price with dealerships. Your both on the same page price wise.
This way dealers know your price includes the dest charge and what number earns your business.
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I have been following this thread and I got a quote for 2014EX-L as
23,800 (incl dest charge) + TTL... from one and only one dealer within 100mi radius.
I didnot act swift, and now the color(s) I prefer are gone. I'm contemplating should I take the color thats remaining (basque red) or go for a 2015EX-L color of my choice.... 2015 EX-L i'm get quote at 26,200 + TTL.
dont feel like paying 2400 more just for a model year difference.... esp with no new features....
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http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/134028821/overview/
http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/133907337/overview/
Base 2014 Gensis prices are 27,237 and $26,494. I called the dealer and learned that the prices is after $500 military cash back. So I need to add $500 to this but includes destination charge.
Do you think there is more room for negotiations for the price?
Comparing Genesis base vs Accord EX-L V6
1) there is no moon roof, lane watch, lane departure, rear view camera, collision warning in Genesis base
2) genesis base has stronger engine
3) Accord V6 is more fuel efficient 21 vs 26 mpg
Best wishes
3.8 Premium Package.................$4000
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Power tilt-and-slide glass sunroof; Leather-wrapped dash and door trim inserts; Integrated Memory System (IMS) for driver's seat, outside mirrors and steering wheel; Power tilt and telescopic steering wheel; Power rear sunshade; Ultra-premium leather seating surfaces; Rain-sensing wipers; Lexicon 14-speaker premium surround-sound audio system with CD/DVD player; DVD-based navigation system with 7" touchscreen display and XM NavTraffic (including a 90-day complimentary subscription); Rearview camera; Power-folding outside mirrors
3.8 Technology Package..................$3900
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Lexicon 17-speaker, 7.1 surround-sound with HD Radio, discrete audio system; Ultimate navigation system with 8" display and XM NavTraffic (including a 90-day complimentary subscription); Driver information system (DIS) with multimedia controller; Bluetooth hands-free phone system with integrated display; Hyundai Blue Link telematics system; Smart cruise control; Lane departure warning system; TFT LCD cluster display; Electronic parking brake with automatic vehicle hold; Auto-cornering HID Xenon adaptive headlamps; Auto defogger windshield; Auto-dimming outside mirrors; Front and rear parking sensors; Cooled driver seat; Heated rear seats
I have the R-Spec performance model w/ sport tuned suspension and 429 h/p. A lot of car for the money.
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No added options
MSRP: $23,545
Invoice: $21,828
Purchase Price: $18,700 - $500 (Recent Grad Discount) = $18,200
0.9% for 60 months through Honda.
Bought in the Kansas City area.
Bought in Fairfax VA area.
The discussion here helped me a lot.
Thanks everyone.
Also, does anyone have any thoughts on 2014 Nissan Altima 2.5SL with tech pkg compared to a 2014 Accord EX-L.
I havenot test driven an Altima yet, but reading edmunds reviews and about the blindspot monitoring on them, seems a solid competition....
Does Altima hold value overtime similar to Accord when it is time for resale...
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Sales price: 24857
Value Package (these things are absurd): 595
Processing Fee: 300.00
Sales tax: 1074
Tag and title 98
Recycling fee: 4
OTD: 26928 out the door
It looks like it's a little more than $2K higher than happytiger1 got, but it includes V6 and sales tax. Opinions? It feels good but not great to me.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Here are your numbers from this dealer.
Invoice w dest charge of 790 =................................28,542
sale price...................................................................24,857.....was dest/ charge included
total........................................................................... 3685 below dealers invoice
Minus......................................................................- 300 doc fee
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Value pack? don't know what's in that to comment?
Was destination charge of 790 included in the 24,857 offer?
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
This is a monster deal. Post dealer and info when sale is done.
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2014 Honda Accord V6 EX-L w/o Nav
Base Price: 25867 (including destination, wheels locks, some other random stuff)
Processing fee: 300
Sales Tax: 1059
Other random title fees and whatnot: 88
Total OTD: 27318 (don't add up perfectly due to rounding)
Was it as good as before? Not quite. But still $2700 under invoice with pretty minimal fees outside of that. I don't think I left too much on the table, judging by other dealers' reactions.
Thanks Brian125, I saw that exact price when they were showing me how much the car cost them. I was like "wow, awesome, I know that number."
So it was Pohanka Honda in MD. I worked with Shavon and Walter. They still have like 11 of the 2014s in stock--no other dealer in the DC area seems to have any as far as I can tell. Some had no miles, some had up to 6000, so if you feel good about my deal and go there, just check milage before you buy. A big thanks to everyone here for making me feel so much more comfortable about the process.
good luck and enjoy the accord
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just as a comparison, only one dealer close to me is offering EX-L v4 (no Nav) at base price of 23,800 (dest included)... so a v6 for 2K more sounds a sweet deal.
I just wish the dealer close to me has v4 in color of my choice.
I'm getting it for 18,300 + Tax, title, doc fees ($600) = 19,600.
is this a good deal?
Price is below NADA retail. The dealership wants to offer "extended vehicle servcie agreement" for 7yrs at 1500.... (originally he quoted 1800).
apparently it covers all non-wear-n-tear parts after the manufacturers bumper to bumper warranty ends.... thinking of passing this... any comments?
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i totally agree...doc fees 600 is really high... looks like all dealers in my metro area (Raleigh-Durham) have collectively increased this. It was $400 just 2 months ago. Everyone is asking $598 now
The best I could get was to throw in some all-weather mats. ($150 retail value)
The original asking price quote was $19950...
My other option would be a new 2014 at 22100 + TTL&doc. == 23300 (roughly).
comparing this to 2013 EX for 18300 == 19600 out the door. (with 15K miles and Certified)
I used the tips here and emailed bunch of local dealers for a 2015 Accord Ex, the lowest I can get is $22991. (the dealer invoice is at $24660, so it is $1668 below the dealer invoice), is this a good price? (in bayarea). The strange thing is none of the dealerships are willing to give me an OTD price, is it because they can play tricks later on when I walk in?
I have also a naive question to ask: is the sales tax rate on a new automobile based on the dealers' address or the buyer's home address?
OTD pricing consists of your states sales tax and rate. Dmv fee's , dealers doc fee charge that is the bulk of OTD pricing. . Some states have a tire disposal fee or internet charge,
Find out if the destination charge of 820 was included in your 22,991 price quote.
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the "factory invoice", and $24661 the "dealer invoice"
the dealer invoice = factory invoice + regional fee $236 + Dest Fee $790
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All the dealers are using the "dealer invoice" somehow, and I thought when people on this forum talking about xxx below invoice, it is the dealer invoice.
@Edmunds and @kbb.com have already update there prices for 2015 from $ 790 to $820 for Accords destination charge. This price change may have just occurred this month.
When your calling dealerships for pricing ask what the 2015 dest/ charge is ?
One note: TrueCar should be used as a guide and not a final price. In some states taken with a grain of salt.
My problem with True-car is they are setting the price not you. Most Un-educated buyers will take that price where a buyer like myself or you may be able to negotiate $1500 cheaper than Truecars best price.
Knowing how and when to buy will help make your best deal. Buying at the end of the month.
TrueCar gets a kick back of 300 plus dollars from each dealership if a buyer brings in that certificate and buys from that posted dealership.
True car wants you to believe regional fee's of 236 dollars is part of your deal and buy using them there price is the best deal. Dealers are not adding 236 dollars onto your price deal.
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Based on that info, now you see how much more you can negotiate....
Alot of us boarder different states and can easily go thru 3 or 4 within a couple of hours. Especially here on the East Coast. Better pricing further away should be negotiated with your area's dealerships as a price leverage. Dealerships that are on the fence with meeting a lower price will consider taking your money if they believe you will go to that dealership further away. This is a good negotiating tactic that works with many dealerships especially the last few days of any month.
Having the leverage to tell dealerships.... Why are you going to let Joes Honda steal this sale from you....................... I will buy it from your dealership today is a beautiful thing.
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