Update: Got another dealer to price a $60.9k car to match our current lease but dealer is asking for 1 pay upfront. 27Mo /27k miles total payment ($1k+$535x26 incl 9% Tax) also including 2yrs service contract. Doesn't seem to make sense on lease. Keep working.
Purchased from 1st quoted dealer: $61.695 MSRP (p1,Parking Assist pkg, Keyless Go pkg, Sports pkg, Lane Tracking Pkg, heated seat, etc.) on 27mo/27k mi lease for $1k drive off, $575 mo/incl tax, 2yr service, dent removal & paint potection pkg. Paper show $11000 off MSRP.
Hi, I got a quote on $63K sticker price. $695 a month, sign and drive (nothing out of pocket).
-- or --
out of pocket $1800 bank, dmv, etc. for $624 a month
I'm based in NYC.
I want to know if that's good price or do I have room to negotiate? I called many other dealers in white plains, NJ, and NY. No dealer i spoke to can match that.
If any one have better deals, let me know what dealer and where from. Thanks in advance.
@dimakoren said:
Hi, I got a quote on $63K sticker price. $695 a month, sign and drive (nothing out of pocket).
-- or --
out of pocket $1800 bank, dmv, etc. for $624 a month
I'm based in NYC.
I want to know if that's good price or do I have room to negotiate? I called many other dealers in white plains, NJ, and NY. No dealer i spoke to can match that.
If any one have better deals, let me know what dealer and where from. Thanks in advance.
What is the selling price, lease term and miles per year?
The MF for the E350 is .00118 and the residual is 56% for 36mo/15K
Hi, I got a quote on $63K sticker price, $54,000 selling price. $695/mo 27 months 10K/yr, sign and drive (nothing out of pocket).
I'm based in NYC.
I want to know if that's good price or do I have room to negotiate? I called many other dealers in white plains, NJ, and NY. No dealer i spoke to can match that. (spoke with 3-4 dealers)
If any one have better deals, let me know what dealer and where from. Thanks in advance.
@dimakoren said:
Hi, I got a quote on $63K sticker price, $54,000 selling price. $695/mo 27 months 10K/yr, sign and drive (nothing out of pocket).
I'm based in NYC.
I want to know if that's good price or do I have room to negotiate? I called many other dealers in white plains, NJ, and NY. No dealer i spoke to can match that. (spoke with 3-4 dealers)
If any one have better deals, let me know what dealer and where from. Thanks in advance.
Looks like a pretty good deal....but try to get them to throw in maintenance in that price.
Hi, Im looking for leasing e350 2014. 27mos-36mos, 12k mi/year and $0down. When I read all your posts everybody seems to get a very good number. So far The quotes that I have gotten asking me $838-870 including tax and 2 years services. MSRP that I got so far is around $61k-62k. This is gonna be my first time doing leasing. Any tips or price? how can I get a $575/month for leasing e350? Any advices much appreciated.
@girlygirl13 said:
Hi, Im looking for leasing e350 2014. 27mos-36mos, 12k mi/year and $0down. When I read all your posts everybody seems to get a very good number. So far The quotes that I have gotten asking me $838-870 including tax and 2 years services. MSRP that I got so far is around $61k-62k. This is gonna be my first time doing leasing. Any tips or price? how can I get a $575/month for leasing e350? Any advices much appreciated.
The MF for the E350 is .00118 and the residual is 68% for 27 months or 58% for 36 months.
If you go back and read the last 4-6 weeks of posts in this discussion, you will find that many of the posters are getting a tremendous discount off MSRP as the selling price.
Which state are you in? Several states - Illinois, Texas and Maryland - tax the entire purchase price of the car on a lease, rather than just the amount of the depreciation.
Yes.. I've been reading the posts and saw many people got great prices. I live in NoCal and every agents that I talked to giving me the MF of .00136 if I have a good credit score. As in for today the lowest quote I got so far is $639.36/mo with $1300 drive off for 27 months leasing. And they include the 2year mantainance services as well. MSRP is $59,640 (premium 1 pkg,rear deck spoiler, comfort box, split fold seats, sport pkg, keyless go pkg, lane tracking pkg).
Can someone help with money factor and residual on e250 diesel 4matic for April? Also does the e250 have different money factor and residuals than a gas 4 matic?
Checked the e class for the first time today as current lease ends in May. Salesman seemed to be jerking me around and telling me that the diesel leased poorly and that he had none in stock and the next nearest dealer had nine either. When I checked dealer inventory online on my phone he said he made a mistake and they in fact had 4 on the lot and the other place showed 5! From my perception he was steering me away from a diesel lease but coming in all I read about was the Diesel being the e-class value leader. I'm not following why the model proclaimed to be the "value" in the E series is a poor lease? Any help appreciated. Thx
@ccc555 said:
Can someone help with money factor and residual on e250 diesel 4matic for April? Also does the e250 have different money factor and residuals than a gas 4 matic?
The E250 and E350 have residual values that are within 1% of each other, but the MF used for the E350 is promotional at .00118, while the E250 uses the standard MB MF of .00195-.00225, so it's possible that the lease payment would work out to be higher.
Checked the e class for the first time today as current lease ends in May. Salesman seemed to be jerking me around and telling me that the diesel leased poorly and that he had none in stock and the next nearest dealer had nine either. When I checked dealer inventory online on my phone he said he made a mistake and they in fact had 4 on the lot and the other place showed 5! From my perception he was steering me away from a diesel lease but coming in all I read about was the Diesel being the e-class value leader. I'm not following why the model proclaimed to be the "value" in the E series is a poor lease? Any help appreciated. Thx
Not quite sure I understand what you mean by "value leader"? Lower price? The dealer may have incentives in play if they move gasser models rather than diesels, but a good salesperson will listen to the customer and try to get them the best deal for the car they want.
I did a Diesel E250 vs Gas E350 quick comparison on cost benefit on 1k mi per month. E250 is good to pay up to $35-40/mo more on lease and still justify on higher MF...but all depends on diesel price vs gas price.
I completely understand that dealers get incentives to move models and that the interest rate plays a big role in the lease as well, but many publications when reviewing the E250 said the same type of thing that Motorweek said_,_ "As for pricing, the E250 BlueTEC follows the recent Benz trend of being the new base model, starting at $52,325. That’s a great strategy if you actually want people to buy diesels."_ But if I figure I can get the 350 for like $100 cheaper a month given that there is an approx. 2% difference in the interest rate. At that price difference the 250 doesn't really make sense financially for a lease. Salesman was right on that.
I still think he was being disingenuous only because he was telling me he couldn't show me any and that no local dealers had any. When I found several on my phone, he admitted he made a mistake in how he was searching on his system. In any event, it seems the 350 is a much better lease than the 250 at least for April. Thanks for the help!
What is the residual for E350 for 36 months and 48 months? I am in Philadelphia and one of the dealer is quoting me MF of 0.00140 . I can't remember what the residual was though. This is for 12k miles/year. The quote he gave me were $650 inc tax for 27 months or $735 inc tax for 48 months. Both with only fees. This is on a $66k sticker car.
Just wanna shout out a Thank You for dl_amg and this forum for helping me with all the information on leasing the e350. MSRP $61k. I got it for $589/mo(includes tax, 2yr service, all packages that I asked, and a lifetime pick up and delivery for services) for 27mos/27k with $1k drive off. THANK YOU!!!
@sanglee1540 said:
What is the residual for E350 for 36 months and 48 months? I am in Philadelphia and one of the dealer is quoting me MF of 0.00140 . I can't remember what the residual was though. This is for 12k miles/year. The quote he gave me were $650 inc tax for 27 months or $735 inc tax for 48 months. Both with only fees. This is on a $66k sticker car.
The base MF is .00118, so it looks as if your dealer is marking it up slightly for additional profit.
Residual is 58% for 36 months and 50% for 48 months.
@girlygirl13 said:
Just wanna shout out a Thank You for dl_amg and this forum for helping me with all the information on leasing the e350. MSRP $61k. I got it for $589/mo(includes tax, 2yr service, all packages that I asked, and a lifetime pick up and delivery for services) for 27mos/27k with $1k drive off. THANK YOU!!!
What a fabulous resource you are. I would like to tap your expert information about the residual and money factor for and E-Class wagon. The best numbers I find is residual of 60% for 36mo/12K and 68% for 24mo/12K. It is the MF that is confounding. My dealer quotes .002, but one source states .000252. Is there such a special subvented rate for the wagon? Thank you for your response.
@neorose said:
What a fabulous resource you are. I would like to tap your expert information about the residual and money factor for and E-Class wagon. The best numbers I find is residual of 60% for 36mo/12K and 68% for 24mo/12K. It is the MF that is confounding. My dealer quotes .002, but one source states .000252. Is there such a special subvented rate for the wagon? Thank you for your response.
The residuals are actually 1% higher than the ones you have. There is not a subvented money factor for the wagon, but dealer markups to money factors are rampant. We usually see the standard money factor quoted in a range of .00195-.00225.
The "Buy Rate" is not so friendly for the Wagon. How about the E350 Cabriolet's MF and residuals for 24/27/36 months. Also, have you an idea how $10,000 discounts from MSRP is so common.
@neorose said:
The "Buy Rate" is not so friendly for the Wagon. How about the E350 Cabriolet's MF and residuals for 24/27/36 months. Also, have you an idea how $10,000 discounts from MSRP is so common.
.00128 and 66% (24mo) 60% (30mo) or 56% (36mo)
Residuals are for 15K - add 2% for 12K and 3% for 10K
I don't know how or why $10K discounts are available. You might want to check the "E-class prices paid" discussion.
There are two or three parts to the $10K off. First, of course, is dealer discount of about 5%. Mercedes on occasion (or more often than not) has marketing money for cars around $4K for e350's but it varies by model. Generally that money applies to current drivers of specific cars, but the last one seemed to make anything other than perhaps a suzuki eligible. Finally there is sometimes loyalty money if you are currently leasing/paying off to mercedes finance. There are also deals with outside companies such as IBM and there is the USAA discount...and don't forget the MB club of America discount of $500 if you have been a member for a year. $10K is not an unusual number when you add up what you are eligible for. Oh...would you believe that some dealers forget to add their discount to the other money watch for that little trick.
Here's the revised number for my 12k miles/year lease. Got an offer of $690 inc tax/36months including 2 yrs prepaid service with $1800 out of pocket. This is for an E350 with a sticker of $68k. The salesperson said they're selling at $57k. Is this good?
@sanglee1540 said:
Here's the revised number for my 12k miles/year lease. Got an offer of $690 inc tax/36months including 2 yrs prepaid service with $1800 out of pocket. This is for an E350 with a sticker of $68k. The salesperson said they're selling at $57k. Is this good?
Using your MSRP and selling price with the residual of 58% and MF of .00118, I get a pre-tax payment of $601.58.
@Michaell@Edmunds said:
Using your MSRP and selling price with the residual of 58% and MF of .00118, I get a pre-tax payment of $601.58.
Is there some online lease calculators where I can put in the pertinent values and it will give me the monthly payments? The calculations I have comes nowhere near what you're giving and I am sure your numbers are more in line with what I am seeing from the dealer than my calculations. For the given numbers, I get $771.
I'm sure if you search for "lease calculators" using your favorite search tool there will be many to choose from. Plug the numbers into several of them and compare the results.
@sanglee1540 said:
My residual calculation was wrong. I was using the negotiated price instead of the sticker. Thanks for your help Michaell. Back to dealing..
I suppose every dealer has their own way of doing things and what's published by mbusa isn't what the dealer shows what's published by mbusa.
Here's the deal I ended up with for a 3 yr lease on e350. They also included an accessory that was just under $300 which isn't reflected on paper.
67695 - msrp,
799 - added 3 yrs prepaid maintenance,
57746.8 - after discount,
58454.80 - gross cap cost (discounted price + maintenance),
40370.16 - residual (which I calculate to be 59.635%),
4629 - rent charge (money factor of 0.00130 per their mbusa published value),
633.47 - monthly charge before taxes
I mentioned that I heard the april rate of 0.00118 mf from mbusa and their response was that number was incorrect. But I didn't mention the residual of 58% where theirs was 59.635%. Strange...
I am in Florida and am offered an E350 lease, list price $58,385 less $8,838 for lease price of $49,547 with taxes etc and a "Dealer Service Fee" of $699.95. The lease payments with $0 down are $660 a month. Is this a good deal?
@lbkbob said:
I am in Florida and am offered an E350 lease, list price $58,385 less $8,838 for lease price of $49,547 with taxes etc and a "Dealer Service Fee" of $699.95. The lease payments with $0 down are $660 a month. Is this a good deal?
What is the lease term and how many miles per year are you allowed?
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.00136 and 68%
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Update: Got another dealer to price a $60.9k car to match our current lease but dealer is asking for 1 pay upfront. 27Mo /27k miles total payment ($1k+$535x26 incl 9% Tax) also including 2yrs service contract. Doesn't seem to make sense on lease. Keep working.
Purchased from 1st quoted dealer: $61.695 MSRP (p1,Parking Assist pkg, Keyless Go pkg, Sports pkg, Lane Tracking Pkg, heated seat, etc.) on 27mo/27k mi lease for $1k drive off, $575 mo/incl tax, 2yr service, dent removal & paint potection pkg. Paper show $11000 off MSRP.
Nice deal. Congrats on the new car!
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My coworker took my deal, went same dealer, got exact same car from the dealer the same evening... LOL
dl_Amg Can you send me your dealer info?
Can you give me the residual and money factor for a 2014 E350 Cabriolet? 27 months. Connecticut/NY area
should have added 10k miles/yr
I show .00118 MF and 69% for 24 month, 10K/yr lease. I'm not sure of the 27 month residual.
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Hi, I got a quote on $63K sticker price. $695 a month, sign and drive (nothing out of pocket).
-- or --
out of pocket $1800 bank, dmv, etc. for $624 a month
I'm based in NYC.
I want to know if that's good price or do I have room to negotiate? I called many other dealers in white plains, NJ, and NY. No dealer i spoke to can match that.
If any one have better deals, let me know what dealer and where from. Thanks in advance.
What is the selling price, lease term and miles per year?
The MF for the E350 is .00118 and the residual is 56% for 36mo/15K
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Hi, I got a quote on $63K sticker price, $54,000 selling price. $695/mo 27 months 10K/yr, sign and drive (nothing out of pocket).
I'm based in NYC.
I want to know if that's good price or do I have room to negotiate? I called many other dealers in white plains, NJ, and NY. No dealer i spoke to can match that. (spoke with 3-4 dealers)
If any one have better deals, let me know what dealer and where from. Thanks in advance.
Looks like a pretty good deal....but try to get them to throw in maintenance in that price.
Hi, Im looking for leasing e350 2014. 27mos-36mos, 12k mi/year and $0down. When I read all your posts everybody seems to get a very good number. So far The quotes that I have gotten asking me $838-870 including tax and 2 years services. MSRP that I got so far is around $61k-62k. This is gonna be my first time doing leasing. Any tips or price? how can I get a $575/month for leasing e350? Any advices much appreciated.
The MF for the E350 is .00118 and the residual is 68% for 27 months or 58% for 36 months.
If you go back and read the last 4-6 weeks of posts in this discussion, you will find that many of the posters are getting a tremendous discount off MSRP as the selling price.
Which state are you in? Several states - Illinois, Texas and Maryland - tax the entire purchase price of the car on a lease, rather than just the amount of the depreciation.
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Yes.. I've been reading the posts and saw many people got great prices. I live in NoCal and every agents that I talked to giving me the MF of .00136 if I have a good credit score. As in for today the lowest quote I got so far is $639.36/mo with $1300 drive off for 27 months leasing. And they include the 2year mantainance services as well. MSRP is $59,640 (premium 1 pkg,rear deck spoiler, comfort box, split fold seats, sport pkg, keyless go pkg, lane tracking pkg).
Can someone help with money factor and residual on e250 diesel 4matic for April? Also does the e250 have different money factor and residuals than a gas 4 matic?
Checked the e class for the first time today as current lease ends in May. Salesman seemed to be jerking me around and telling me that the diesel leased poorly and that he had none in stock and the next nearest dealer had nine either. When I checked dealer inventory online on my phone he said he made a mistake and they in fact had 4 on the lot and the other place showed 5! From my perception he was steering me away from a diesel lease but coming in all I read about was the Diesel being the e-class value leader. I'm not following why the model proclaimed to be the "value" in the E series is a poor lease? Any help appreciated. Thx
The E250 and E350 have residual values that are within 1% of each other, but the MF used for the E350 is promotional at .00118, while the E250 uses the standard MB MF of .00195-.00225, so it's possible that the lease payment would work out to be higher.
Not quite sure I understand what you mean by "value leader"? Lower price? The dealer may have incentives in play if they move gasser models rather than diesels, but a good salesperson will listen to the customer and try to get them the best deal for the car they want.
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I did a Diesel E250 vs Gas E350 quick comparison on cost benefit on 1k mi per month. E250 is good to pay up to $35-40/mo more on lease and still justify on higher MF...but all depends on diesel price vs gas price.
I completely understand that dealers get incentives to move models and that the interest rate plays a big role in the lease as well, but many publications when reviewing the E250 said the same type of thing that Motorweek said_,_ "As for pricing, the E250 BlueTEC follows the recent Benz trend of being the new base model, starting at $52,325. That’s a great strategy if you actually want people to buy diesels."_ But if I figure I can get the 350 for like $100 cheaper a month given that there is an approx. 2% difference in the interest rate. At that price difference the 250 doesn't really make sense financially for a lease. Salesman was right on that.
I still think he was being disingenuous only because he was telling me he couldn't show me any and that no local dealers had any. When I found several on my phone, he admitted he made a mistake in how he was searching on his system. In any event, it seems the 350 is a much better lease than the 250 at least for April. Thanks for the help!
What is the residual for E350 for 36 months and 48 months? I am in Philadelphia and one of the dealer is quoting me MF of 0.00140 . I can't remember what the residual was though. This is for 12k miles/year. The quote he gave me were $650 inc tax for 27 months or $735 inc tax for 48 months. Both with only fees. This is on a $66k sticker car.
Just wanna shout out a Thank You for dl_amg and this forum for helping me with all the information on leasing the e350. MSRP $61k. I got it for $589/mo(includes tax, 2yr service, all packages that I asked, and a lifetime pick up and delivery for services) for 27mos/27k with $1k drive off. THANK YOU!!!
The base MF is .00118, so it looks as if your dealer is marking it up slightly for additional profit.
Residual is 58% for 36 months and 50% for 48 months.
What is the selling price?
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Nice job! Congrats on the new car!
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What a fabulous resource you are. I would like to tap your expert information about the residual and money factor for and E-Class wagon. The best numbers I find is residual of 60% for 36mo/12K and 68% for 24mo/12K. It is the MF that is confounding. My dealer quotes .002, but one source states .000252. Is there such a special subvented rate for the wagon? Thank you for your response.
The residuals are actually 1% higher than the ones you have. There is not a subvented money factor for the wagon, but dealer markups to money factors are rampant. We usually see the standard money factor quoted in a range of .00195-.00225.
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Thank you. Is there perhaps a special residual for 27 month term?
I'd have to double check, but MB often uses the 24 month residual for 27 month term leases.
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I only see a 27 month special on the E350 sedan for April, not the wagon.
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.00128 and 66% (24mo) 60% (30mo) or 56% (36mo)
Residuals are for 15K - add 2% for 12K and 3% for 10K
I don't know how or why $10K discounts are available. You might want to check the "E-class prices paid" discussion.
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Thank you. I will pose that question in the "Buyer's" forum. It is a bit sparse, however, compared to your site.
There are two or three parts to the $10K off. First, of course, is dealer discount of about 5%. Mercedes on occasion (or more often than not) has marketing money for cars around $4K for e350's but it varies by model. Generally that money applies to current drivers of specific cars, but the last one seemed to make anything other than perhaps a suzuki eligible. Finally there is sometimes loyalty money if you are currently leasing/paying off to mercedes finance. There are also deals with outside companies such as IBM and there is the USAA discount...and don't forget the MB club of America discount of $500 if you have been a member for a year. $10K is not an unusual number when you add up what you are eligible for. Oh...would you believe that some dealers forget to add their discount to the other money
watch for that little trick.
Thanks!
Here's the revised number for my 12k miles/year lease. Got an offer of $690 inc tax/36months including 2 yrs prepaid service with $1800 out of pocket. This is for an E350 with a sticker of $68k. The salesperson said they're selling at $57k. Is this good?
Using your MSRP and selling price with the residual of 58% and MF of .00118, I get a pre-tax payment of $601.58.
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Is there some online lease calculators where I can put in the pertinent values and it will give me the monthly payments? The calculations I have comes nowhere near what you're giving and I am sure your numbers are more in line with what I am seeing from the dealer than my calculations. For the given numbers, I get $771.
I'm sure if you search for "lease calculators" using your favorite search tool there will be many to choose from. Plug the numbers into several of them and compare the results.
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My residual calculation was wrong. I was using the negotiated price instead of the sticker. Thanks for your help Michaell. Back to dealing..
That will do it.
Let us know how it all turns out.
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I suppose every dealer has their own way of doing things and what's published by mbusa isn't what the dealer shows what's published by mbusa.
Here's the deal I ended up with for a 3 yr lease on e350. They also included an accessory that was just under $300 which isn't reflected on paper.
67695 - msrp,
799 - added 3 yrs prepaid maintenance,
57746.8 - after discount,
58454.80 - gross cap cost (discounted price + maintenance),
40370.16 - residual (which I calculate to be 59.635%),
4629 - rent charge (money factor of 0.00130 per their mbusa published value),
633.47 - monthly charge before taxes
I mentioned that I heard the april rate of 0.00118 mf from mbusa and their response was that number was incorrect. But I didn't mention the residual of 58% where theirs was 59.635%. Strange...
Did you take advantage of the autopay discount?
That option wasn't offered to me until all the paperwork was signed and wasn't going change any numbers.
I am in Florida and am offered an E350 lease, list price $58,385 less $8,838 for lease price of $49,547 with taxes etc and a "Dealer Service Fee" of $699.95. The lease payments with $0 down are $660 a month. Is this a good deal?
What is the lease term and how many miles per year are you allowed?
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They also claim the money factor of .00136 is "the best rate available." Does that sound correct?
.00136 is the base MF for the wagon. .00118 is what I'm showing for the sedan.
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Huh? It does change the numbers...it reduces the money factor. How could they offer it after the lease is signed???
The lease terms are 27 mos. and 36 mos at 12000 a year
Using your MSRP and selling price for 27/12, I calculate a pre-tax payment of $469.95
Increasing the lease term to 36 months takes the payment to $534.08.
Can you get the dealer to break down their numbers? The payment they are quoting seems a bit high.
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