tcwtcw Member Posts: 14
edited March 2014 in Ford
Does anyone have any thoughts why the Ford 150 is
rated so well by Edmunds and others when the NHTSA
website for the Office of Defects Investigation
identifies 276 complaints for the 1997 Ford 150 and
only 7 for the Dodge Ram? The number of
investigations resulting was 9 for Ford and 2 for
Ram. Maybe it is just due to more Ford 150s out
there, but I wonder....


  • lwflwf Member Posts: 223
    "the NHTSA website for the Office of Defects Investigation identifies 276 complaints for the 1997 Ford 150"

    Would you give us that website. Since I recently bought an F150, I'd like to see what I have to look forward to.
  • tcwtcw Member Posts: 14
    The NHTSA website is:
    then select CARS and then scroll to customer complaints.
  • MotormouthMotormouth Member Posts: 99
    Not defending Ford, here, but those numbers would have a lot more meaning if Ford and Dodge sold the same number of vehicles. But Ford sells tons more trucks than Dodge. Therefore, it's only natural to have more complaints.

    Still, it's a good idea to check and see just what it is that Ford (and Dodge) customers are complaining about.

    It would be even better if those who are making the complaints would discuss them here. After all, that's one of the purposes of this forum... to talk about the bad as well as the good.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJMember Posts: 3,516
    Sales ratio isn't as high as the complaints would warrant. Ford sold about 750,000 F-series in 1997 , while Dodge sold 350,000 Rams (this includes all weight series). Extrapolating the sales volumes strictly as half tons, the F150 probably sold twice as many as the Ram 1500. If the trucks were equal in quality, the Ford should only have twice as many complaints as the Dodge. 276 complaints to 7 means the Ford has a MUCH higher complaint rate.
  • RoclesRocles Member Posts: 982
    Hmmm, I have two Dodges and I would love to complain! I guess that would raise it to nine. In all honesty, what are these complaints? I also bought a new Ford and I don't like what I'm hearing.
  • lwflwf Member Posts: 223
    I went through most of the list. There weren't really 276 complaints because a number of them were repeated (same complaint wording and complaint #) several times. A lot of them seemed serious to me (wheels falling off, air bags not deploying in an accident, brakes failing, etc.); however, some seemed really silly. Here's some examples.







  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJMember Posts: 3,516
    I just read some of the complaints under Ram 3500 at that NHTSA site. Still laughing.

    "Brakes failed completely for 2 seconds then re-engaged" - can you say "newbie to 4 wheel ABS"? That's exactly what it feels like when you nail the brakes on my 96 3500. If you had legitimate brake failure of any kind, all the brake warning lights would come on and stay on.

    "Can't see at night..., have to use dimmer to see". well, duh, it's a 3500 - it's a lot higher off the ground than a Mazda Miata - try reaiming the headlights...

    And one under 1996 Ram 3500:

    "due to premature wear every two months and 12,000 miles, the front brakes have to be changed". If this is NOT a typo, then yeah, going 12 thousand miles every 2 months WOULD require brakes that often. My front pads basically last about a year, my rear shoes will probably make 3 years. I drive about 18K a year, with quite a bit of stop-and-go.

    I agree, lwf - quite a few of these are silly - more likely from first-time truck buyers swayed by the current promotion of trucks as the "thing to buy" right now.
  • jim2jim2 Member Posts: 43

    I looked up Chevy and Ford 3/4 ton complaints and found that there were 23 complaints for a 1997 Ford F250 and 11 for Chevy 2500. The Chevy was listed as CK2500 and C2500.

    Among the people I know who own pickups the following is an unscientific summary of what I have heard over the past 4 years:

    Chevy Pickup:
    Some transmission problems, but only with those who abuse their equipment.
    Satisfied with overall quality and are satisfied with gas mileage with the 350 and 454 Vortec engine

    Ford Pickup:
    Suspension problems with twin I beam pre 1996 models. Can't keep front end alligned
    Diesel 7.3 is expensive to repair if it breaks. Generally dissatisfied with fuel mileage on 5.4L gas and 7.3L diesel. Some 7.3L diesel owners are happy with their fuel mileage and reliability.

    Dodge Pickup:
    All cummins owners I have talked with are happy with their trucks with the exception of one who has 90K miles and says he doesn't have the power he once had. He has never adjusted the valves and I understand you should do this ever 25K miles according to my local dealer.
    Owners with the 360 gas motor like its power but are very disappointed with fuel mileage.

    Owners with the V10 love the power but are unhappy with the mileage.

    Dodge owners say their Rams nickel and dime you alot with small repairs. I have a '78 RV with a 440 and this has been true for me.

    The happiest pickup owners seem to be those with Chevys/GMCs with the vortec 350 and next would be Ram owners with the cummins.
  • RoclesRocles Member Posts: 982
    Happiest? No, not me. I own all three of variable model years and beat the hell out of them for my roofing firm. My expierence is right on with most on Dodge. Those trucks are always working but have headaches in the little repairs which turn into big headaches when you are trying to run a buisness!
    The Fords have given no problems and we're more than happy with the stock suspension.
    The chevy's have great power but trannies have given out in three of them. Their suspensions are also spongy compared to the Fords.
    We own more Chevy's than the others but I have been most satisfied with Ford.
  • fredburwellfredburwell Member Posts: 4
    I'm thinking of buying a new Ford F350 diesel, but after reading your comments, I think I'm going to wait so Ford can work out all the problems before I buy. Any recalls on new F-350 trucks that you know about?
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113

    Ford recently issued a recall for the new SuperDuty related to the steering column and parking brake. In mid-production, they also found a problem with the Shift-on-the-Fly (SOF) 4wd. They changed the SOF on the trucks that were in process and all future trucks being built. My guess is that the people who bought earlier trucks with the original SOF will be able to get it fixed for free at their dealers in the future. These are the kinds of kinks they are working out. It may be a minor inconvenience to take it to the dealer, but the repairs will be free and shouldn't take very long.

    If you decide to wait for the next model year of the SuperDuty, you will probably have to wait until September of 99. Although they started production of the SuperDuty line in January of this year, it is a 99 model. The 2000 MY trucks won't be available until late 99. Any glitches with the SuperDuty before then will probably be something that the dealers will fix for free like the problems we've seen so far.
  • taylomtaylom Member Posts: 2
    I am on the verge of buying a Ram 1500. I drove the Ram and a Ford 150 literally back to back out of the same new car lot and found the Ford smoother and more 'refined' but found the Dodge quieter and more powerful. the comments about nickle and dime repairs concern me. all my previous trucks have been Ford HD half tons with little problem. Am I making a mistake with this Dodge?
  • RoclesRocles Member Posts: 982

    One word answer:YES. Please don't find out on your own about the Ram sucking the money right out of your pocket! Both Rams that I own, are pieces of crap. Yes, no major problem has arised but then again, none should. First, those wheel-bearings will slip and get loose. Second, watch the fly-wheel. Sounds like the 60's but seriously watch it. This is the first vehicle to have these type of problems in a long while.
    Dodge does throw in a powerful engine selection at the people but don't be fooled. Are you going to race anyone? Of course not, reconsider Ford and Chevy.
    Are you buying it for the Cummins? Then I could understand. Are you buying it for the looks? Then you better have a fair amount of nickels and dimes.
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    The Dodge engines may have a few more horses, but the smoothness of the ride has me baffled. Ford tends to have more efficient, smoother running engines. I've also heard about the nickel and diming of the Dodges. Still, all of the Big Three make good quality 1/2 tons. Heavy duty pickups are another issue.
  • taylomtaylom Member Posts: 2
    I appreciate the input guys. Looks like I need to go see Ford again.
  • GROOVMAGROOVMA Member Posts: 1
    I have been reading all the responses to the ongoing debate of Ford vs Dodge, and I find several pro's and con's for both trucks. Let me explain my dilemma...

    I purchased a used 97 F-250 4X4 Lariat extended cab, with all the options: Trailer towing package, 5.4L V8, 4 speed auto, Leather, CD changer... etc. We took a long trip in it (a total over 2 days of 17 hours), and found that this truck was more uncomfortable than the 92 4X2 Toyota pickup I also own. The seats have no support in them, and even with the 8 way power drivers seat and lumbar support my back was aching within 4 hrs. of the journey. In addition to this, the transmission shifted hard during acceleration, with a loud clanking sound, and the overdrive could not make up its mind on whether to stay engaged or not.

    I have a friend who owned the same vehicle (except for the engine, he had the diesel) and after a dozen trips to the dealer for work on his transmission, and other small items, in frustration he sold the truck and is purchasing a new 99 superduty.

    After our last trip, and rumors of the problems with our first year redesigned Ford, we are ready to sell.

    We plan on using the truck to pull our horse trailer, and eventually a 5th wheel. We want a three quarter ton extended cab 4X4, with either a v-10, or a diesel, and we want it to be comfortable. Most of the horse shows are half way across the U.S., and we need something that will be comfortable on extended trips. However, quality is extremely important to us, as we have plans to purchase this truck and hold on to it until it falls apart. Which brings me to my main question - which one, Ford Superduty, or Dodge?

    I have done my research on Ford, and Dodge, and both appear to be a great vehicle. Both have similar towing ratings, H.P., options, etc. I have spoken to many Dodge owners, and all seemed pleased with the truck. Because of its so new, I've only spoken to one person who has driven a Ford Superduty.

    As with most people, I cannot afford to keep buying, and trading vehicles. I would love to hear everyones response, technical or otherwise. I want to purchase one more truck, and only one more. Thank you in advance!
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    If your horse trailer is a fifth wheel, you will want to make some measurements if you get a four wheel drive to make sure it will work for you. I know the new SuperDuty trucks sit up pretty high. However, if the trailer is a regular pull behind, you shouldn't have any problems finding a hitch that will work. It's just something to consider if you're getting a 4wd and will be towing.

    I ordered the leather interior for my Superduty (I haven't received it yet). I read somewhere that one reviewer felt the cloth seats were more comfortable. That might be a consideration.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJMember Posts: 3,516

    One question - you said you had a 97 F250 with the 5.4, and a friend had the same truck, but with a diesel. The 1997 F250 that had the 5.4 was the light duty 250 (that looks like the 150). The 1997 diesel powered 250 is from the old body style. If you both had the old-body truck, then you might have had a 351, not a 5.4.

    The Ford Super Duty 4x4 is approximately 3 or 4" taller than the comparable Dodge, depending on configuration. The Ford also rides on larger diameter tires. I second Brutus's recommendation of measuring your trailer to make sure there will be no problems.

    I have a Cummins-powered Dodge, and it's the best truck I've ever driven. But it's strictly my opinion. Brutus will rave (I'm sure) about his Super Duty when he gets it. They are both excellent heavy duty trucks, and it will be a seat-of-the-pants thing that makes you decide which one to get if you have no brand loyalty. If you prefer gasoline, the Dodge will be stronger; if you prefer diesel, the Powerstroke will come off the line better. Since you are traveling long distances regularly, I would recommend the diesel so that you won't be stopping every three counties to tank up. Both diesels will cruise well into the 20s mpg-wise.

    My main fault from behind the wheel of the Dodge is its extremely wide A-pillars (makes some left turns an adventure), and my fault of the Ford is lack of gauge infromation (all the auxiliary gauges read low-normal-high with no indication of what they're really doing).

    As I have mentioned to others, I'm not surprised that you have no interest in a GM heavy duty truck. Nothing beats a live front axle and real springs (long leaves on the Ford, gigantic coils on the Dodge) when you really need a truck to take a beating for a living.
  • cdeancdean Member Posts: 1,110

    what exactly is dodge's set up on the heavy duty front ends? are you talking about 2 or 4 wheel drive. i thought they were a-frame, but i could have swore i've seen 2 wheel drive dodge's with some kind of flat axle, i've never been close enough to one examine it.

    on looks alone, both the ford and dodge look tougher than the GM's. they look like peterbilts, while the GM's look like, well, pickups. i think that sells a lot by itself. but you can look at reliabilities, and the A-frame set up has been tough and reliable. brutus will argue that GM does not have any fleet service and does not get put throught the rough like Fords I-beam, but I have put them through them, and know of different oil companies and hot shot services around south texas who have chevy fleets, driven by workers who don't own the trucks, don't care, and pound the trucks when going between drilling sites, which means lots of pulling on lots miles on undeveloped rough roads. they hold up.

    the unreliable part on the GMs that i would not want is the 4 wheel drives. if you know you are going to pound a truck, you want a solid axle. but if you are a part time off roader, the open axle provides excellent, smoother ride. whatever floats your boat.

    anyway, i am curious to what the dodge front ends are, on the 2 wheel drives, half tons and 1 tons.
  • mharde2mharde2 Member Posts: 278
    GROOVMA, Drive them both, thats the best way to compair. The dodge will susprise you, take it form a die-hard Ford man who now drives a Dodge Turbo Diesel...The 99 Ford SD is nice too though. Its a very big, very tall truck.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJMember Posts: 3,516

    Yes, the Ram 4x2 uses an oversize Short/Long arm suspension, but both the 4x2 and 4x4 sit on coils. The 4x4 front end is an enlarged version of the Grand Cherokee front end in its design. The 3500 4x2 Chassis cab sits on a flat I-beam axle.

    I mentioned the 4x4 front end in my post because Groov was in the market for a 4x4...
  • SWCSWC Member Posts: 10

    I owned a 95 Ram Club Cab 4x4 with the 5.2 and recently purchased a 98 quad cab 4x4 with the 5.9., and my brother has a 96 club with the Cummins. My advice would be to definitely go with the 5.9 or the Cummins, unless your talking V10. The 5.9's power is delivered much smoother than that of the 5.2. As for nickle and dime problems, I traded the 95 with 55,000 miles with no complaints whatsoever. The 98 is in the shop right now getting a new rear end installed. This is a major problem, but between the 3 trucks, this is the first incident. I've been very satisfied with comfort, power and ruggedness of the Dodge and would highly recommend one. The ford is also a great truck, but I have friends who have had little problems with those too. The Ford does have more a "car" feel to it. The ride is smoother, but I like that "big truck" feel. Good luck with your selection.
  • E3MP6E3MP6 Member Posts: 70
    Hiya! I just bought a '98 Dakota Club Cab 4x4 (5.2 V-8 short bed). It's a "mid-size" truck, but my EPA rating on the window sticker says "standard pickup". I've also seen the V8 Dakota compared to the F-150, though I can't remember which magazine it was in. At other times, the Dakota is classed with the S-10, Ranger, Tacoma, etc... It is definatly in a class above these. Sure it's a club cab, but I parked it next to a Chevy Z71 4x4 and the Chevy was only about 3" longer, and my truck was just as tall. I can't remember if the Chevy was regular or extended cab. I know the Chevy's and the Ram are wider than my Dakota, but what about the F-150? Are they smaller this year? What class is the Dakota officially in (ie...Road&Track, Car&Driver, MoterTrend, etc...).
  • BrutusBrutus Member Posts: 1,113
    The Dakota is officially a midsize. The Ranger is considered a small pickup. The Dakota seems to pretty much be in it's own class, between the small and the full size. It's bigger than other midsize trucks.
  • RoclesRocles Member Posts: 982
    Was the Chevy a regular cab with a short bed? The "new" Dodge sells the Dakota like a compact when advertising the "great" comparisons to the like of the S-10, Ranger, and Tacoma. Yes, it has an available V-8 and it is bigger than the forementioned.
    Problem is: false advertising. These things cost as much as a full-size. Only the T-100 is comparable in size. Ever check out sticker prices on the Dakota? Too rich for the typical buyer of a compact who is placing economy with a practical side.
    I personally like the Dakota and I feel that its size would be great for alot of people who don't need a full-size and don't want a compact. The grille is a little too much, though, reminds me of Ram jr. Baby sheep. The old grille was classier with bland but decent lines. Then again, the Ranger and S-10 are'nt much better are they?
    I'm curious, hey E3MP6, how much did your truck cost? What kind of rear did they give or do you get an option?
  • RoclesRocles Member Posts: 982
    The fact that Dodge is having problems with their rears is not a issue to overlook. I have'nt heard of a comparable amount of Chevys having those type of problems. I've known four guys personally who have problems with a Ram rear.
    Does anyone else know about this or are these flukes? Every truck has its annoyances but major problems should'nt arise so early on a new truck. Is it typical Dodge quality control of yesteryear?
    I've seen similar responses in other conferences in relation to their cars. Are looks getting in the way? Maybe Mercedes will improve this situation.
  • E3MP6E3MP6 Member Posts: 70
    The rear on my Dakota has 3.55 ratio. no noise out of it yet, but only had it for 1 month.
    MSRP sticker says $24,445, but I got it for $21K
    the dealer still made a bit off of me, but I'm happy with the deal. The high cost is 'cause it's a V8 4x4 SLT+, loaded to the gills except for larger alternator, battery,engine block heater, and I also kept the stick. No auto tranny for me.
    The sizing(as mentioned by Rocles) is perfect for my needs. I'm 6'4", most of that is in my legs. S-10's and Rangers cramp my style, and I had no desire to move from my little Mazda 323 hatchback to a full-sized truck. I love the size. It's big enough to haul stuff in (without making extra trips, like in S-10/Ranger), but small enough to be easy to drive in city traffic (but just barely). Also, by taking the truck only slightly smaller than a full-size, I was able to add more options and still stay in my price cap without sacrificing too much load capability.

    My only complaint is that it's hard as Hades to park after driving my Mazda POS for 4 years :)
  • E3MP6E3MP6 Member Posts: 70
    Oh yeah...The Chevy (I think) was a short bed. Aren't all Z-71's short bed? I also think it was extended cab, but can't prove that one. It was dark and late, so I don't remember it too well. It did have my Dakota beat on the width though, but not by much.
  • rite3rite3 Member Posts: 69
    I looked closely at both the Ford and the Dodge befor I ordered the super duty on 6-1. Both trucks would have been at 200 over invioce so that was a non issue for me. After a long research period, almost five months, alot of test drives and phone calls, and alot of time spent online, the Ford came out on top. The thing it finally came down to was fit and finish. If we have to have plastics in trucks, and we do, than at least make it thick and durable. I grabbed hold of the steering column shroud in the Dodge and gave it a squeeze and a twist and it squeeked to high heaven. The quad cab works well, But the bottoms of the doors are finished in what looks like vinyl covered fiber sheet. In the Ford the scuff plates were solid plastic with a thick handsome design. The plastic in the Fords just seems thicker and more durable to me. I know that there are alot of Dodge fans out there who really love their tucks, and for good reason, it really was that close of a decision for me. Now I get to wait. Thats another thing the Dodge had going for it.
  • cdeancdean Member Posts: 1,110

    you can get the Z71 option on any model of chevy truck. i've even seen Z71 Tahoes and Suburbans. Z71 is a $250 option that basically gives you Bilstein off road shocks (makes for awesome smooth ride), skid plates over the engine and transfer case, and a couple of cool looking stickers that everyone seems to love. i don't think there are anymore mechanical differences. for 250$, its pretty good deal. i price the shocks alone and retail price was $70 apiece.
  • RoclesRocles Member Posts: 982
    Z71 is all shocks. Which, at NAPA, cost only 60 dollars. The one unique item is the dumb decal. Skid plates are included but who wouldn't throw that in a deal anyway? I'm almost positive that truck had to be a short bed. Now if it was an extended cab then some people have rethink their truck possibilities. I have to check Edmunds to find out.
    21k? I'm wondering if you checked out any full-size truck. Sounds as though you wouldn't want it anyway.
  • cdeancdean Member Posts: 1,110
    you can get Z71 on

    extended cabs, regular cabs, surburbans, tahoes

    and short bed or long beds

    or any combination of the lot.
  • RoclesRocles Member Posts: 982
    In fact, I can't seem to recall the last time I saw a 1500 on a lot without the Z71 package.The only trucks from Chevy that don't are the W/T models. I assume you can get one without it,but it seems that the dealers request it for their allotments. Probably a great "throw-in" deal for the salesman at the final signing."Hey, I'll throw in the Z71!" Gee, Whoopee!
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJMember Posts: 3,516

    That's just further proof that the manufacturers and the dealers are pushing for the general public to buy trucks. If you want a work/commercial truck, you generally have to order it and wait, but it you want a leather-clad half ton 4x4 with every option and then some, you have your pick right there on the lot.
  • cdeancdean Member Posts: 1,110
    right on, kcram. its the demand. you may own a work truck, but for every person like yourself, there are 20 people who buy the biggest, fanciest, most expensive thing they'll never need or use. thats why automakers are selling trucks for close to $10,000 over actual costs, when a few years ago, they were only making 2 or 3 grand per truck.
  • rite3rite3 Member Posts: 69
    I could have gotten away with just getting the half ton F150 I was looking at. I dont need a 1 ton right now, and probably never will. The point is that the F150 would have cost me 28k. The super duty F350 crew cab 4x4 I ordered cost me 29.5k. Thats a hell of alot more truck for the money. I also like the superduty's looks alot more than the F150. I dont have my boat yet, or trailer, but I plan to get both some day. I would have gotten the F250 if the gears I wanted were availible in it. I think what it all comes down to is this: drive what you want to. Life is to short to worry about what other people think. Besides its none of their damn buisness anyway. If you can afford to own one and feed it, and you really want the bigger truck, than get one. I know I did.
  • RoclesRocles Member Posts: 982
    Or be like my dumb grandfather. He bought a 4x4 F250 before the new design. Wanna know why? Because he didn't like the looks of the new ones. Now after 3000 miles, he's miserable. I don't feel sorry though, he did this four years with a monster Dodge. Now he will take a bath and get a truck that actually suits him.
    He only wanted a half-ton for firewood and his chairs in which he makes. He can't even drive this truck! Too big and it sucks his gas.
    All of this would have been prevented if he listened to us before he bought the behemoth. I agree that people have the right to drive what they want, they also have the right to be ignorant like my pop-pop.
  • RoclesRocles Member Posts: 982
    If anyone was wondering, yes 3000 miles in two years. Thats how miserable he is! His old F-100 is getting a hell of a workout!LOL
  • E3MP6E3MP6 Member Posts: 70
    The Chevy was ext. cab, but short bed. Ran into it again. The owner lives next door to my old college roomate.

    At 21K, yes I did look at full sized trucks, but only the Ram. I don't like the styling on the Chevy or Ford line (But I love the new SuperDuty!). Most of my driving is city driving, and the smaller Dakota (vs. Ram) is a lot easier to drive in traffic, but like I said, a beast to park after driving a Mazda 323 for 4 years.

    Also, I was able to get more of the bells and whistles in the Dakota and stay in my price range. I spend lots of time in my truck (3300 miles in the 1st month, and I'm only home on weekends) and I might as well be comfortable.
  • RoclesRocles Member Posts: 982

    Sounds as though you are a rare man. You actually bought a truck right for you and that is how we should all do it! I agree that the Dakota is the right size for most but I wish that Chevy and Ford would come out with a mid-size. Nothing like more models to compete with to get the best buy. Problem with the Dakota is that only the Toy T-100 is comparable. Once they discontinue that model, Dodge will be by itself again.
    That is impressive about the length of your truck to the Chevy.
  • rite3rite3 Member Posts: 69
    rocles, O.K. I cant stand it anymore, whats with the LOL thing. I have to know its driving me crazy...thanks.
  • HuejanusHuejanus Member Posts: 3
    Dodge Sucks Fords the one!
  • RoclesRocles Member Posts: 982
    LOL= Laughing out loud.

    Hey Huejanus, do your parents know you are on the computer? Grow up little man.
  • rite3rite3 Member Posts: 69
    Rocles. Thanks. I ran into this Mr anus in another topic area. He is a little man, and if he does not watch his little mouth, EDMUNDS will pull his little password.
  • RoclesRocles Member Posts: 982
  • E3MP6E3MP6 Member Posts: 70
    I must admit there was one thing added to the truck that was unnecessary, just an ego thing. The V-6 was perfect, pulls what I need to pull and gets decent gas mileage, but I went with the V-8 anyhow. Other than that, everything about the truck is a perfect match for my needs and driving conditions. Anyhow, the V-8 should help my resale value if I ever get rid of it. Other than that, it's rather impracticle and drinks gas almost as bad as my dad's old Chrysler Cordoba w/400cui V-8
  • RoclesRocles Member Posts: 982
    Isn't that the beauty of resale though? Yeah, it drinks gas like a camel at a water fountain. No doubt! It will sell like one also!
    I know about the ego. I have a firm with many trucks but I also own a personal one. Now, I don't need the 5.4 that Ford offers, but then again, I don't need THREE motorcycles either! LOL
    Have fun with your truck.

    Happy Independence Day everyone!
  • DuckdogDuckdog Member Posts: 3
    I own a 1997 F250 Lightduty. Extended Cab Short bed. Drive over 35K a year and it is the best PU I ever owned. 5.4L with auto has tons of power. Interior and ride are best I've seen in P.U. No problems with Truck whatsoever. Partner has brand new Dodge Quadcab and It leaked transmission fluid for the first Month he owned it. Dealer couldn't find leak. And whats up with that cupholder? You'd think you were opening the door to your dryer. Also, Fords third door is wider that the doors on Quadcab. Seems to be more room in back of my Ford than with the Dodge. Admit I'm Ford Man, but having ridden many miles in new Fords and Dodges I'll take the Ford. Plus, father in law, who is a banker says Dodge's resale claims are not real world.
  • cdeancdean Member Posts: 1,110
    dodge's claims on best resale have fine print at the bottom. if you are good enough to catch it, it says based on sales of the Dakota.
  • atcscatcsc Member Posts: 11
    i'm upgrading my 97 dodge 1500 to a 3/4 ton. would also like to get a diesel. i know dodge has had its problems with others, but i'v owned two 1/2 tons with no major problems at all. have enjoyed both. but i do think ford makes the better heave/super duty truck. test drove a 99 250 super duty 4 wheel drive super cab diesel. GREAT ride. will be pulling a 28 foot fifth wheel camper. also wondering if their is any problem hitching a 5th wheel to a 4x4 because of the added hight to the truck? any help or advice would be appreciated. thanks!
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