2015 Lexus RX 350 Lease Questions

kyfdx

No predictions from me...

Michaell

kyfdx said:

No predictions from me...

My magic 8-ball is in the shop for a recall repair ....

hazmarty

How does this sound for a 3 year, 15K miles per year lease in New York on RX350 AWD?
MSRP $50,514
MF = 0.0009
Residual = 58%
Initial Cap Cost = $47,797
Cap Cost Reduction = -$1,500
Cap Cost Increase for Bank Fee = +$700
Adjusted Cap Cost = $46,997
Monthly Payment $560.30 (not including NY State/County sales tax on purchase and sales tax on $1,500 cap cost reduction incentive)
Up front costs: About $2,000 = [NY State/County sales tax +$12.50(tires+inspection) + $75 ("processing" fee)]
First month lease payment waived by Lexus

Michaell

hazmarty said:

How does this sound for a 3 year, 15K miles per year lease in New York on RX350 AWD?
MSRP $50,514
MF = 0.0009
Residual = 58%
Initial Cap Cost = $47,797
Cap Cost Reduction = -$1,500
Cap Cost Increase for Bank Fee = +$700
Adjusted Cap Cost = $46,997
Monthly Payment $560.30 (not including NY State/County sales tax on purchase and sales tax on $1,500 cap cost reduction incentive)
Up front costs: About $2,000 = [NY State/County sales tax +$12.50(tires+inspection) + $75 ("processing" fee)]
First month lease payment waived by Lexus

My numbers match yours to the penny.

We don't recommend making any sort of cap cost reduction - if the car is stolen or totaled, you lose the money.

hazmarty

Michaell said:

hazmarty said:

How does this sound for a 3 year, 15K miles per year lease in New York on RX350 AWD?
MSRP $50,514
MF = 0.0009
Residual = 58%
Initial Cap Cost = $47,797
Cap Cost Reduction = -$1,500
Cap Cost Increase for Bank Fee = +$700
Adjusted Cap Cost = $46,997
Monthly Payment $560.30 (not including NY State/County sales tax on purchase and sales tax on $1,500 cap cost reduction incentive)
Up front costs: About $2,000 = [NY State/County sales tax +$12.50(tires+inspection) + $75 ("processing" fee)]
First month lease payment waived by Lexus

My numbers match yours to the penny.

We don't recommend making any sort of cap cost reduction - if the car is stolen or totaled, you lose the money.

Do you think that the adjusted cap of $46,997 and the $560.30/month is a reasonable deal to close on by month's end? I could offer to pay the $700 bank fee up front and that would probably move the monthly down to about $540/month as well.

Michaell

hazmarty said:

Michaell said:

hazmarty said:

How does this sound for a 3 year, 15K miles per year lease in New York on RX350 AWD?
MSRP $50,514
MF = 0.0009
Residual = 58%
Initial Cap Cost = $47,797
Cap Cost Reduction = -$1,500
Cap Cost Increase for Bank Fee = +$700
Adjusted Cap Cost = $46,997
Monthly Payment $560.30 (not including NY State/County sales tax on purchase and sales tax on $1,500 cap cost reduction incentive)
Up front costs: About $2,000 = [NY State/County sales tax +$12.50(tires+inspection) + $75 ("processing" fee)]
First month lease payment waived by Lexus

My numbers match yours to the penny.

We don't recommend making any sort of cap cost reduction - if the car is stolen or totaled, you lose the money.

Do you think that the adjusted cap of $46,997 and the $560.30/month is a reasonable deal to close on by month's end? I could offer to pay the $700 bank fee up front and that would probably move the monthly down to about $540/month as well.

I don't make decisions about with other people's money. If you are comfortable with the selling price, that's the biggest part of the lease deal.

And yes, paying the bank fee up front will lower your payment about $19/mo.

johnnyjuice

What is the MF and Residual on a FWD @ 36/7.5k and the AWD?

Michaell

johnnyjuice said:

What is the MF and Residual on a FWD @ 36/7.5k and the AWD?

62% and .00090. $1500 lease cash and complimentary first payment.

attitudetalks

kyfdx, Michaell and everyone else who helped - Thank You !!
I finally pulled the trigger on a 2015 Lexus RX 350 AWD today. To pay my dues here on this forum for all that you have shared, here are the details of my car :

2015 Lexus Rx 350 AWD
Add Ons : Comfort Package, Premium Package w/Blind Spot Monitor, Navigation w/Voice Command, Tow Prep package, Intuitive Park Assist, Remote Engine Start, Wood & Leather Trim Steer & Shift Knob, All weather floor/cargo mats/Cargo Mats, wheel locks, 19" Alloy Wheels,

Lease Term/Miles : 36/10k

MSRP : $52,113
Dealer Deduction : $4,200
Net Cap Cost : $47,913

RV : 61% or $31,788.93
MF : 0.00090

Monthly Payment : $519.62

Taxes + Fees : $3,092.38 (taxes paid upfront)
Lexus Discounts : $2,519.62

Down Payment : $572.76

Lexus Discounts include :
$1,500 : Lexus Lease Rebate
$ 500 : Auto Show Attendance
$ 519.62 : Comp 1st month Payment

So, $573 down and $520 per month.


Here's an interesting perspective :
My total capital outlay at the end of the 3 yr lease (including all taxes and fees) is
36% of MSRP or $18,759.46

Based on the RV of 61% or $31,788, the total depreciation for 3 yrs is
$20,324.07

In other words, the latent/potential value that I could realize at the end of the lease (in theory) by buying and flipping the car is :
3% of MSRP or $1,564.61 (more if the car comes in under 30k miles and is very good condition).

This in itself makes it deal too good to pass over.

~Atti

Michaell

attitudetalks said:

kyfdx, Michaell and everyone else who helped - Thank You !!
I finally pulled the trigger on a 2015 Lexus RX 350 AWD today. To pay my dues here on this forum for all that you have shared, here are the details of my car :

2015 Lexus Rx 350 AWD
Add Ons : Comfort Package, Premium Package w/Blind Spot Monitor, Navigation w/Voice Command, Tow Prep package, Intuitive Park Assist, Remote Engine Start, Wood & Leather Trim Steer & Shift Knob, All weather floor/cargo mats/Cargo Mats, wheel locks, 19" Alloy Wheels,

Lease Term/Miles : 36/10k

MSRP : $52,113
Dealer Deduction : $4,200
Net Cap Cost : $47,913

RV : 61% or $31,788.93
MF : 0.00090

Monthly Payment : $519.62

Taxes + Fees : $3,092.38 (taxes paid upfront)
Lexus Discounts : $2,519.62

Down Payment : $572.76

Lexus Discounts include :
$1,500 : Lexus Lease Rebate
$ 500 : Auto Show Attendance
$ 519.62 : Comp 1st month Payment

So, $573 down and $520 per month.


Here's an interesting perspective :
My total capital outlay at the end of the 3 yr lease (including all taxes and fees) is
36% of MSRP or $18,759.46

Based on the RV of 61% or $31,788, the total depreciation for 3 yrs is
$20,324.07

In other words, the latent/potential value that I could realize at the end of the lease (in theory) by buying and flipping the car is :
3% of MSRP or $1,564.61 (more if the car comes in under 30k miles and is very good condition).

This in itself makes it deal too good to pass over.

~Atti

Congratulations - enjoy your new Lexus and thank you for sharing!

attitudetalks

Michaell said:

attitudetalks said:

kyfdx, Michaell and everyone else who helped - Thank You !!
~Atti

Congratulations - enjoy your new Lexus and thank you for sharing!

Thanks Michaell ..... I have a couple of more questions.
You have been on this forum for a while now and are probably familiar with leasing trends. If that's true, would you know :
1. When in the year (which month) the MF for the Lexus Rx 350 AWD is the highest, i.e., most unfavorable for the buyer. ?
2. When in the year (which month) is it typically at its lowest, i.e., most unfavorable for the buyer ?
3. If the MF changes every month for this car ?
3. How about the Residual Value, does that change every month for this car ?

In other words, when in the year would be the worst time to try and buy a Lexus Rx 350 AWD ?

Thanks

~ Atti

Michaell

attitudetalks said:

Michaell said:

attitudetalks said:

kyfdx, Michaell and everyone else who helped - Thank You !!
~Atti

Congratulations - enjoy your new Lexus and thank you for sharing!

Thanks Michaell ..... I have a couple of more questions.
You have been on this forum for a while now and are probably familiar with leasing trends. If that's true, would you know :
1. When the MF for the Lexus Rx 350 AWD is the highest, i.e., most unfavorable for the buyer. ?
2. If the MF changes every month for this car ?
3. Does the Residual change every month too ? When is it typically at its lowest, i.e., most unfavorable for the buyer ?

Thanks

~ Atti

1. I don't track MF trends - too many manufacturers, and too many models
2. MF does tend to get updated every month - doesn't always means that the value changes
3. Lexus residuals are usually reset every quarter. New numbers will be out in early April. Residuals are usually best at the beginning of the model year and slowly go down. However, the MF could also be reduced as well, but there isn't any hard data to support that statement.

dfwbuyer1

Have following deal in North Texas area
MRSP 49.989
Sell 45.600
Lexas cash -1,500
total sell 44,100
Texas sales tax paid up front reduced to 1% from 6.25% +441
fees +260
aquistion fee +700

estimated cap $45,501
residual 61% on 36/10K 30,494

MF 0.00175

Payment $551 x 35 (1st payment from L. Financial)

? did they bump teir 1 MF credit to make more $$$'s, forum has 0.0009 in most states.

Thanks

kyfdx

dfwbuyer1 said:

Have following deal in North Texas area
MRSP 49.989
Sell 45.600
Lexas cash -1,500
total sell 44,100
Texas sales tax paid up front reduced to 1% from 6.25% +441
fees +260
aquistion fee +700

estimated cap $45,501
residual 61% on 36/10K 30,494

MF 0.00175

Payment $551 x 35 (1st payment from L. Financial)

? did they bump teir 1 MF credit to make more $$$'s, forum has 0.0009 in most states.

Thanks

There could be regional programs that we don't know about, but the most likely answer is they are bumping the MF for more profit.

The $2000+ savings on the TX sales tax is a great thing, though..

mkgcmc

Have the following deal in PA:

MSRP: $48,000
Sales Price: $46,000
Lease Cash: -$1,500
Negative Equity: $3,000

Cap Cost: $47,500

36 months/10K miles

Residual: $29,280 
Money Factor: .00115
Doc Fee: $135
Bank Fee: $700
Tax: $2350

Monthly Payment: ~$615/month

Lexus pays the first month, of course. Thoughts? Seems like they might be jacking up the money factor here. 

Thanks!

attitudetalks

mkgcmc said:

Have the following deal in PA:

MSRP: $48,000
Sales Price: $46,000
Lease Cash: -$1,500
Negative Equity: $3,000

Cap Cost: $47,500

36 months/10K miles

Residual: $29,280 
Money Factor: .00115
Doc Fee: $135
Bank Fee: $700

Monthly Payment: ~$615/month

Lexus pays the first month, of course. Thoughts? Seems like they might be jacking up the money factor here. 

Thanks!

Hi mkgcmc,
I just closed the lease deal on a new Rx 350 AWD with an MSRP of $52,113.
Monthly (for 35 months) : $519.62
Drive Off Cost (down pay) : $576.72

Discounts :
1. Dealer Lease Disc : $4,200
2. Lexus Lease Cash : $1,500
3. Lexus free 1st mth : $519.62
4. Auto Show Discount : $500 (for attending the Lexus display at the MN auto show)

Use this as a benchmark; try and do better. Btw, they are jacking up the MF by 0.00025; if credit is Tier A or B, insist on the base MF of 0.00090

Just my $$0.02.

~Atti

Michaell

attitudetalks said:

mkgcmc said:

Have the following deal in PA:

MSRP: $48,000
Sales Price: $46,000
Lease Cash: -$1,500
Negative Equity: $3,000

Cap Cost: $47,500

36 months/10K miles

Residual: $29,280 
Money Factor: .00115
Doc Fee: $135
Bank Fee: $700

Monthly Payment: ~$615/month

Lexus pays the first month, of course. Thoughts? Seems like they might be jacking up the money factor here. 

Thanks!

Hi mkgcmc,
I just closed the lease deal on a new Rx 350 AWD with an MSRP of $52,113.
Monthly (for 35 months) : $519.62
Drive Off Cost (down pay) : $576.72

Discounts :
1. Dealer Lease Disc : $4,200
2. Lexus Lease Cash : $1,500
3. Lexus free 1st mth : $519.62
4. Auto Show Discount : $500 (for attending the Lexus display at the MN auto show)

Use this as a benchmark; try and do better. Btw, they are jacking up the MF by 0.00025; if credit is Tier A or B, insist on the base MF of 0.00090

Just my $$0.02.

~Atti

+1 from me .. work to get the base MF.

Are you ending a lease early? The $3000 of negative equity alone is adding $80-85/mo to the payment.

mkgcmc

Michaell said:

+1 from me .. work to get the base MF.

Are you ending a lease early? The $3000 of negative equity alone is adding $80-85/mo to the payment.

Yes, I have a CT that we have grown out of. We may end up just needing to deal with it due to the impact on the monthly payment, but I'm at least exploring the options.

I'll work on the money factor and see where that gets me. Thanks for the help!

beemerb0y

I didnt want to wait til April to see the new MF/RV's so I bit the bullet on the following:

MSRP $50,403 (nav, premium package with blindspot, comfort package, park assist, F appearance, etc)
Selling price $43,930.80
Net Cap $43,730

$0 down
$0 drive off

$480/month (tax included...9% CA) for 36m/12k miles

Michaell

beemerb0y said:

I didnt want to wait til April to see the new MF/RV's so I bit the bullet on the following:

MSRP $50,403 (nav, premium package with blindspot, comfort package, park assist, F appearance, etc)
Selling price $43,930.80
Net Cap $43,730

$0 down
$0 drive off

$480/month (tax included...9% CA) for 36m/12k miles

Congratulations ... enjoy your new Lexus!

mkgcmc

mkgcmc said:

Have the following deal in PA...

Update on this deal. I got the money factor down to .00090 as suggested. Here are the new numbers:

36 months/10K miles
MSRP: $48000
Gross Cap Cost: $48880 (includes ~$2800 negative equity)
Cap Reduction: $2730

Net Cap Cost: $46150
Residual: $29282
Money Factor: .00090

Tax Up Front: $320
First Year Fees: $112.50
Doc Fee: $134
Acquisition: $700

Due at Signing: $2500 (after $1500 rebate and first month payment)

Cost: $589/month

Does this all look reasonable? The only thing I can think of is that the $111 left over from the first month's payment could be applied to the cap cost reduction. 

Thanks!

Michaell

mkgcmc said:

mkgcmc said:

Have the following deal in PA...

Update on this deal. I got the money factor down to .00090 as suggested. Here are the new numbers:

36 months/10K miles
MSRP: $48000
Gross Cap Cost: $48880 (includes ~$2800 negative equity)
Cap Reduction: $2730

Net Cap Cost: $46150
Residual: $29282
Money Factor: .00090

Tax Up Front: $320
First Year Fees: $112.50
Doc Fee: $134
Acquisition: $700

Due at Signing: $2500 (after $1500 rebate and first month payment)

Cost: $589/month

Does this all look reasonable? The only thing I can think of is that the $111 left over from the first month's payment could be applied to the cap cost reduction. 

Thanks!

I'm showing $536.50/mo before tax and $590.15 with 10% tax applied. Looks pretty decent from here.

hazmarty

I wasn't able to do our lease deal in March because the present vehicle was still in the body shop getting repaired. Finally have it back now. What are the New York residual and MF for April on RX350 AWD 36 month lease with 15K miles/year? Is the $1500 lease cash and payment of the first month lease still available in April? Thanks for your help

Michaell

hazmarty said:

I wasn't able to do our lease deal in March because the present vehicle was still in the body shop getting repaired. Finally have it back now. What are the New York residual and MF for April on RX350 AWD 36 month lease with 15K miles/year? Is the $1500 lease cash and payment of the first month lease still available in April? Thanks for your help

58% and .00090. $1500 lease cash still available, but first month complimentary payment has gone away.

eddyn1

What are the April numbers in FL for FWD 36/12or15?

kyfdx

eddyn1 said:

What are the April numbers in FL for FWD 36/12or15?

.00090 MF and 60%/58% residual

bhuvnesh

Can you give me the RV for RX 350 AWD in Ohio for 12k/36 month lease.

I have been quoted the following:
MSRP - $51,614.00
Selling Price - $49,334.00
Rebate - $1500.00 (Lexus Financial Service Lease Cash)

36 months/10K miles monthly for $570.00 ($1853.98 due at signing)
MF - 0.00090 (requires a tier one credit rating

What do you think?

kyfdx

bhuvnesh said:

Can you give me the RV for RX 350 AWD in Ohio for 12k/36 month lease.

I have been quoted the following:
MSRP - $51,614.00
Selling Price - $49,334.00
Rebate - $1500.00 (Lexus Financial Service Lease Cash)

36 months/10K miles monthly for $570.00 ($1853.98 due at signing)
MF - 0.00090 (requires a tier one credit rating

What do you think?

Those are the base numbers, but why are they quoting you 10K/yr when you want 12K/yr?

60% residual for 36mo, 12K/yr

attitudetalks

Is it just me or does the 2016 Rx 350 look worse than its predecessors ?

kyfdx

attitudetalks said:

Is it just me or does the 2016 Rx 350 look worse than its predecessors ?

Check out this discussion:

http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/30938/lexus/rx-350/2016-lexus-rx-350#latest

jayb82

Can you please provide the RV & MF April numbers in NJ for AWD 24 mo 10,12 &15 mi?

kyfdx

jayb82 said:

Can you please provide the RV & MF April numbers in NJ for AWD 24 mo 10,12 &15 mi?

.00090 MF and 70%/69%/67% residual. $1500 lease cash

jayb82

kyfdx said:

jayb82 said:

Can you please provide the RV & MF April numbers in NJ for AWD 24 mo 10,12 &15 mi?

.00090 MF and 70%/69%/67% residual. $1500 lease cash

Thanks

bhuvnesh

2015 Lexus rx 350 AWD with sticker price of 51614 and 12k/36 mo

About to sign on a deal of 584 with 0 down. How is it ?

Michaell

bhuvnesh said:

2015 Lexus rx 350 AWD with sticker price of 51614 and 12k/36 mo

About to sign on a deal of 584 with 0 down. How is it ?

What is the selling price or net cap cost?

Current numbers are 60% and .00090. $1500 lease cash.

doug94538

Can you please provide the RV & MF April numbers in CA for FWD 36 mo 10,12 &15 mi?

kyfdx

doug94538 said:

Can you please provide the RV & MF April numbers in CA for FWD 36 mo 10,12 &15 mi?

.00090 MF and 58% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr. $1500 lease cash.

doug94538

If I go for the maximum 9 MSD and each MSD reducing my MF by 0.0001 what would be my effective MF ?

Thanks

MSRP 46,138
effective cap cost 39,639 (41139-1500) is this rite ?
Residual 58%
MF 0.00090

Michaell

doug94538 said:

If I go for the maximum 9 MSD and each MSD reducing my MF by 0.0001 what would be my effective MF ?

Thanks

MSRP 46,138
effective cap cost 39,639 (41139-1500) is this rite ?
Residual 58%
MF 0.00090

You cannot go lower than .00001 on a Lexus lease.

doug94538

just so that I am clear , in this case I can have 8 MSD's which will get MF to .00001 .. rite ?

Michaell

doug94538 said:

just so that I am clear , in this case I can have 8 MSD's which will get MF to .00001 .. rite ?

Correct

jessica2011

Each MSD deposit will reduce your money factor by .00008.   If you put down the maximum of 9 allowed then your money factor will reduce by .00072.   If your starting money factor is .0009 and you make the max 9 MSD, your new money factor (.0009 - .00072)  will be .00018, and that is if Lexus will allow you to go that low.
An .00018 money factor is a very low interest rate, probably less than 15 bucks a month or so depending on the MSRP plus residual amount. I don't think a dealership will go that low without selling the car at a higher price.

burdesn

Just signed a 10k/36mo lease on a 350RX FWD premier with nav. Was this a good deal?

Sales price - $43,714
Gross cap cost - 44,414
Cap reduction - 3,340
Residual - 30,044
$3,000 down out the door
$370/mo + tax

Michaell

burdesn said:

Just signed a 10k/36mo lease on a 350RX FWD premier with nav. Was this a good deal?

Sales price - $43,714
Gross cap cost - 44,414
Cap reduction - 3,340
Residual - 30,044
$3,000 down out the door
$370/mo + tax

What is the breakdown of the $3000 due at signing?

Looks like a solid deal.

burdesn

3340 cap cost reduction
400 first month payment
760 misc title/license fees
-$1,500 rebate
= $3,000

Michaell

burdesn said:

3340 cap cost reduction
400 first month payment
760 misc title/license fees
-$1,500 rebate
= $3,000

We don't recommend making a cap cost reduction. If the car is stolen or totaled, you lose that money.

ma1n3vent

Hello everyone! Just wanted yalls opinion on this deal:

We are trading in our 15 RX350 F Sport in order to bring or payment down. We broke even with the trade in, so no positive or negative equity. Truck had 16,300 miles.

Here's the deal:

36 Months/15k Miles

MSRP: 50,917
Sales Price: 43,350
MF: .0009
Residual: 58%
Net Cap Cost, including taxes and $1,500 rebate: 46,966.77

Monthly Payment: $553
Thoughts?

Michaell

ma1n3vent said:

Hello everyone! Just wanted yalls opinion on this deal:

We are trading in our 15 RX350 F Sport in order to bring or payment down. We broke even with the trade in, so no positive or negative equity. Truck had 16,300 miles.

Here's the deal:

36 Months/15k Miles

MSRP: 50,917
Sales Price: 43,350
MF: .0009
Residual: 58%
Net Cap Cost, including taxes and $1,500 rebate: 46,966.77

Monthly Payment: $553
Thoughts?

I get $516/mo before tax, so $553 seems about right depending on your tax rate (7.25%)

ma1n3vent

Yea, I am in the good ol' State of Texas....
Would you consider this a good deal?

Michaell

ma1n3vent said:

Yea, I am in the good ol' State of Texas....
Would you consider this a good deal?

You must have gotten a tax credit, then. Texas applies sales tax to the entire selling price, not to the monthly payment, which is how my spreadsheet works.

I'd say you did very well. Enjoy the new RX!