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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,786

    @rag11 said:
    Great Thread. Anyone has MF and residual for 2015 RX350 AWD 24mo/10k for CA?

    I was trying to replicate CA lease deal published on Lexus website for 24mo/10k, MSRP=$45,948, $3,499 down, $389/ mo lease payment, . It seems the MF used was really low. Does that include MSDs? Or the residual is very high!

    .00105 MF and 72% residual. That does not include MSDs. It does include a $2075 dealer discount from MSRP, $500 lease cash from Lexus, and complimentary 1st payment, also from Lexus.

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  • club619club619 Member Posts: 122

    @Michaell said:
    Then, start talking with another Lexus dealer.

    Ended up not going with a Lexus at all after dealing with the dealer that morning...going back and forth on our trade, telling me "he'll see what he can do" to get the money factor down from .00165, etc. Just a major turnoff all together.

    Happened to be driving past a Mercedes dealership on the way home, and the wife fell in love with the bright red GLK-350, and drove it home. Could've done a better deal had I had time to come check out the forum on that vehicle, but in the end would've only saved maybe $10-20/month. That adds up over time, but when you have an impatient wife who hates car shopping and has found her dream vehicle, was worth it to just sign and drive away. :)

    Thanks again for all the help with the research!

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362

    @club619 said:
    That adds up over time, but when you have an impatient wife who hates car shopping and has found her dream vehicle, was worth it to just sign and drive away. :)

    Sounds an awful lot like my wife! Enjoy your new MB, and use the link in my signature block to write up a review when you're ready.

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  • thebigD45thebigD45 Member Posts: 11

    Hi..
    I'm looking for a 2015 RX 350 lease for 24 months, 12K miles at an MSRP of $49,170.

    Can you please let me know the MF and residual? Any specials for July?

    If you have an estimated payment with $0 drive off in CA, I'd appreciate it.

    Thanks for the help!

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362

    @thebigD45 said:
    Hi..
    I'm looking for a 2015 RX 350 lease for 24 months, 12K miles at an MSRP of $49,170.

    Can you please let me know the MF and residual? Any specials for July?

    If you have an estimated payment with $0 drive off in CA, I'd appreciate it.

    Thanks for the help!

    .00105 MF and 72% RV. $500 lease cash.

    In order to model a payment, we would need the negotiated selling price or net cap cost.

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  • thebigD45thebigD45 Member Posts: 11

    @Michaell said:
    In order to model a payment, we would need the negotiated selling price or net cap cost.

    Thanks for your help. I took a look at the F-Sport as well, that looks to have a cost around 47K. Are the residuals and the MF the same for the F-sport?

    Is the difference worth it in your opinion?

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362

    @thebigD45 said:
    I took a look at the F-Sport as well, that looks to have a cost around 47K. Are the residuals and the MF the same for the F-sport? Is the difference worth it in your opinion?

    No difference in RV or MF.

    I've not looked at the RX350, so can't tell you if the premium for the F-Sport is worth it.

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  • thebigD45thebigD45 Member Posts: 11

    @Michaell said:
    I've not looked at the RX350, so can't tell you if the premium for the F-Sport is worth it.

    I understand, thanks.

    It seems like there were some $1000 invectives a couple of months ago.

  • MarkHolthoffMarkHolthoff Member Posts: 101

    @thebigD45 said:
    Is the difference worth it in your opinion?

    FYI -- here's what our Editors had to say about the F Sport version in their review of the 2014 model:

    We don't recommend the RX 350 F Sport, as it suffers from an overly firm and poorly damped ride, with no appreciable increase in driving feedback or involvement. Worse still, its handling and braking numbers at our track were actually worse than those of the regular RX 350.

  • thebigD45thebigD45 Member Posts: 11

    @Mark@Edmunds said:

    We don't recommend the RX 350 F Sport, as it suffers from an overly firm and poorly damped ride, with no appreciable increase in driving feedback or involvement. Worse still, its handling and braking numbers at our track were actually worse than those of the regular RX 350.

    Thanks so much! Non F-Sport it is!

  • dyna5dyna5 Member Posts: 10

    Can you provide residual and mf for 2015 AWD rx350, 27, 30,33,36 months at 7,500 miles. Thanks!

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362

    @dyna5 said:
    Can you provide residual and mf for 2015 AWD rx350, 27, 30,33,36 months at 7,500 miles. Thanks!

    MF is .00105 wth $500 lease cash this month.

    RV is 71% / 68% / 66% / 63%

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  • tomblacktomblack Member Posts: 1

    Hey there. Getting ready to lease a 2015 RX350 F SPORT. Car is loaded with Navigation. Looking to do the 24 month 1-pay option to save a few dollars. Dealer quoted me a 1-pay price of $11,500 for 7500 miles per year and $12,100 if I went with 10,000 miles per year. Am I getting a good deal? This is in NY. Thank you so much for your feedback.

  • reko19reko19 Member Posts: 2

    There is currently a factory offer for $399 /mo 27mo lease, 10k miles per year. I would imagine the dealership would be interested in pushing a car with fewer options / lower MSRP. Do I first pick a car and then show them the offer, or do I tell them that this is what I am interested in? I don't think I'll be able to negotiate anything better than this. Thanks.

  • jessica2011jessica2011 Member Posts: 39
    edited July 2014
    To Reko19
    Yes, you can do better. The special lease offer is taking around 2500 dollars off the MSRP. Negotiate a better selling price and you payments will go down. Lexus will sell RX 350 at 10% off MSRP. If you have money upfront max out the multiple security deposits, this will save you over 1 thousand dollars over the course of your lease. Ask the dealer about the deposits, they will not mention them to you. Every state allows different amounts, so if you are close to another state you may want to contact dealers there to see if they allow more.
  • reko19reko19 Member Posts: 2
    edited July 2014

    looking at fine print, offer is based on $46,119 MSRP. It also says no security deposit required, are you referring to different security deposits? thank you.

  • dyna5dyna5 Member Posts: 10

    Any idea how much they're discounting invoice? With the lease #'s above and $500 lease cash, and up to $500 off first month, I'm still getting quotes lower than I'm calculating myself. These guys must be discounting invoice heavily?

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362

    @reko19 said:
    looking at fine print, offer is based on $46,119 MSRP. It also says no security deposit required, are you referring to different security deposits? thank you.

    Most leases have a security deposit attached to them .. but, for many luxury makes, the security deposit is waived.

    There is another term called "multiple security deposits" (MSD). These allow the money factor to be lowered, thus reducing your monthly payment. And, you get that money back at the end of the lease term.

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  • jessica2011jessica2011 Member Posts: 39
    To dyna5

    Selling price looks to be around 43000 when fooling around with my lease calculator. I am including 1600 dollar deposit (2300 dollar deposit required in special offer includes 700 dollar acquisition fee). I am also factoring in 500 lease cash, but not sure where to include first month payment waived. Regardless, negotiate 10% off and you can do better then the advertised special. The special offer is really not so special after all, the dealers would love you to believe it is a special offer.
  • lease_itlease_it Member Posts: 7

    Hi - Can you advise for Lexus 2015 RX350 FSport model, 36 mo/15Kmi, what is the MF and the residual ? is it .00105 and 59% ? Thanks!

  • dyna5dyna5 Member Posts: 10

    @jessica2011 said:
    To dyna5

    Selling price looks to be around 43000 when fooling around with my lease calculator. I am including 1600 dollar deposit (2300 dollar deposit required in special offer includes 700 dollar acquisition fee). I am also factoring in 500 lease cash, but not sure where to include first month payment waived. Regardless, negotiate 10% off and you can do better then the advertised special. The special offer is really not so special after all, the dealers would love you to believe it is a special offer.

    I don't get how you're calculating 10% off though? My msrp is $45,365, edmunds invoice is $42,478... and 10% off would be $40,828.5

    You're telling me they're selling for $2k off invoice?

  • jessica2011jessica2011 Member Posts: 39
    edited July 2014
    Yes, 2 thousand below invoice if not more. Deal with the internet sales rep at numerous dealerships and have them bid for your car and you will get at least 10% off msrp, or 2 thousand below invoice. Don't even bother with the sales reps in person at the dealerships, just email the internet rep.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362

    @lease_it said:
    Hi - Can you advise for Lexus 2015 RX350 FSport model, 36 mo/15Kmi, what is the MF and the residual ? is it .00105 and 59% ? Thanks!

    .00105 and 60% for 36/15 on the F-Sport

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  • tomblacktomblack Member Posts: 1

    Hey there. Any feedback on my question? Thanks again.

  • tomblacktomblack Member Posts: 1

    Hey there. Getting ready to lease a 2015 RX350 F SPORT. Car is loaded with Navigation. Looking to do the 24 month 1-pay option to save a few dollars. Dealer quoted me a 1-pay price of $11,500 for 7500 miles per year and $12,100 if I went with 10,000… Am I getting a fair deal?

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362

    @tomblack said:
    Hey there. Getting ready to lease a 2015 RX350 F SPORT. Car is loaded with Navigation. Looking to do the 24 month 1-pay option to save a few dollars. Dealer quoted me a 1-pay price of $11,500 for 7500 miles per year and $12,100 if I went with 10,000… Am I getting a fair deal?

    What is the MSRP and net cap cost?

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  • dyna5dyna5 Member Posts: 10

    Does anyone know what the rate is for MSD deductions? Is it .001 or .0008? I read conflicting reports everywhere!

  • jessica2011jessica2011 Member Posts: 39
    edited July 2014
    I am only relaying what a sales rep told me, so I can not vouch for accuracy.

    Each security deposit reduces your money factor by .00008. In New Jersey we can make 9 deposits. 9 multiplied by .00008 equals .00072. The current money factor is .00105. Subtract .00072 from that and your new money factor is
    .00033. This equals a big return on your money, only a high risk investment can match that. Plus it is tax free. It will save you 2 thousand dollars over a 36 month lease. I encourage everybody to do it if you have the cash on hand. Do not do a one pay lease to save money because if you total your vehicle you will lose that money, plus you save more with the deposits compared to one pay lease. With multiple security deposits you get the money back at the end of lease, it works like a bond. Lexus is simply borrowing the money to increase cash flow.
  • rag11rag11 Member Posts: 9

    @kyfdx said:
    .00105 MF and 72% residual. That does not include MSDs. It does include a $2075 dealer discount from MSRP, $500 lease cash from Lexus, and complimentary 1st payment, also from Lexus.

    Just came back from the dealer and was told RV for 24mo/ 10k lease is 70%. Can anybody please confirm this number? I told him I have read it's 72%. Usually dealers don't lie about RV but it will be good to double check. TIA!

  • jessica2011jessica2011 Member Posts: 39
    To rag11

    I know for sure that a 27 month lease/10 thousand a year is 70% residual. I would think 24 months would be higher. Call some other dealers to get the number for 24 mos.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362

    @rag11 said:
    Just came back from the dealer and was told RV for 24mo/ 10k lease is 70%. Can anybody please confirm this number? I told him I have read it's 72%. Usually dealers don't lie about RV but it will be good to double check. TIA!

    Residual is set by LFS; I confirm the 24/10 residual for the 2015 RX350 is 72%; for the hybrid it is 70%

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  • rag11rag11 Member Posts: 9

    @Michaell said:
    Residual is set by LFS; I confirm the 24/10 residual for the 2015 RX350 is 72%; for the hybrid it is 70%

    Thanks Michaell.

  • tomblacktomblack Member Posts: 1

    @michaell MSRP 52,815... Net cap cost 48,830... Thanks again.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362

    @tomblack said:
    Hey there. Getting ready to lease a 2015 RX350 F SPORT. Car is loaded with Navigation. Looking to do the 24 month 1-pay option to save a few dollars. Dealer quoted me a 1-pay price of $11,500 for 7500 miles per year and $12,100 if I went with 10,000… Am I getting a fair deal? MSRP 52,815... Net cap cost 48,830... Thanks again.

    MF is .00105 for the 2015 RX350 and the residual for the F-Sport is either 73% or 74% depending on miles.

    Using your MSRP and net cap cost, I calculate the pre-tax payment to be $519.88 for 10K ($12,477 for 24mo) and $498.43 for 7500 miles ($11,962). I don't see any sort of a MF discount by doing this, nor are taxes factored into my calculations.

    Here is a good article on one-pay leases, explaining the pros and cons: http://www.leaseguide.com/articles/prepaid-lease/

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  • tomblacktomblack Member Posts: 1

    Than you for the article! I figured by doing the 1-pay it saved me 70 a month. 70x24=1,700.. Not a great amount of cash. But thats not bad over 2 years.i'll take it. I was just curious if the 4,000 net cap cost reduction was what you've been seeing. I'm in NYC. Thanks again for your feedback.

  • lease_itlease_it Member Posts: 7

    Can you Confirm that the Residual for the 2015 RX350 FSport Model is not 59% but actually 60%? I am being told by Lexus Dealer that the lease numbers for 36 mo/15K is 59% residual and MF of .00105. Your input is much appreciated!

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362

    @tomblack said:
    Than you for the article! I figured by doing the 1-pay it saved me 70 a month. 70x24=1,700.. Not a great amount of cash. But thats not bad over 2 years.i'll take it. I was just curious if the 4,000 net cap cost reduction was what you've been seeing. I'm in NYC. Thanks again for your feedback.

    We don't recommend making any sort of cap cost reduction - if the vehicle is stolen or totaled, you would be out that money.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362

    @lease_it said:
    Can you Confirm that the Residual for the 2015 RX350 FSport Model is not 59% but actually 60%? I am being told by Lexus Dealer that the lease numbers for 36 mo/15K is 59% residual and MF of .00105. Your input is much appreciated!

    I confirm the MF for the 2015 RX350 is .00105 and the 36/15 residual for the F-Sport is 60%.

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  • lease_itlease_it Member Posts: 7

    Sorry to be a pest - but regarding "I confirm the MF for the 2015 RX350 is .00105 and the 36/15 residual for the F-Sport is 60%"

    • The dealer put in writing and I quote:
    • "The residual was 60% in June July the dropped 1% across the board".
    • Is that BS or not? How can this be verified? Thanks.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362

    @lease_it said:
    Sorry to be a pest - but regarding "I confirm the MF for the 2015 RX350 is .00105 and the 36/15 residual for the F-Sport is 60%"

    • The dealer put in writing and I quote:
    • "The residual was 60% in June July the dropped 1% across the board".
    • Is that BS or not? How can this be verified? Thanks.

    Nope, I'm glad you kept pushing. I was looking at the residuals that expired on 7/7.

    Mea maxima culpa.

    New residual is, as the dealer indicated, 59% for 36/15 on the F-Sport.

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  • lease_itlease_it Member Posts: 7

    Absolvo te. Gratias tibi ago!
    I will post the deal after closure.

  • tomblacktomblack Member Posts: 1

    @Michaell said:
    What do you mean I would be out that money? As I understand insurance company would cut a check for the KBB on the car and I would get what ever I laid out back. Also in NY we have GAP insurance? Can anybody else conform? Thanks..

  • rag11rag11 Member Posts: 9

    @Michaell said:
    New residual is, as the dealer indicated, 59% for 36/15 on the F-Sport.

    Michaell,

    Can you also confirm once again that residual for 24mo/ 10k on AWD is 72% and not 70%. So far two dealers have quoted me 70%! This is in CA. Thanks.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362

    @rag11 said:
    Can you also confirm once again that residual for 24mo/ 10k on AWD is 72% and not 70%. So far two dealers have quoted me 70%! This is in CA. Thanks.

    2015 RX350 (all trims) - 24/10 RV is 72%.

    2014 RX350 (all trims) - 24/10 RV is 70%

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  • lease_itlease_it Member Posts: 7

    OK - Here's the deal: new 2015 RX350 FSport. MSRP $52,614. Negotiated Sales Price $49,000. 36 Mo/15K miles per year. Less $500 dealer rebate yields Net Cap Cost=$48.5K. MF=.00105, Residual = 59%. The Amount Due at signing needed was only to cover the initial tax, tags, title, document recording fee, and acquisition fee (total of which amounted to $948). The first month payment was waived per current Lexus lease incentive. Therefore, the total monthly cost including 9% tax (for PA) is $619/Mo. (i.e. $568 per month + $51 tax).

    • Good deal?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362

    @lease_it said:
    OK - Here's the deal: new 2015 RX350 FSport. MSRP $52,614. Negotiated Sales Price $49,000. 36 Mo/15K miles per year. Less $500 dealer rebate yields Net Cap Cost=$48.5K. MF=.00105, Residual = 59%. The Amount Due at signing needed was only to cover the initial tax, tags, title, document recording fee, and acquisition fee (total of which amounted to $948). The first month payment was waived per current Lexus lease incentive. Therefore, the total monthly cost including 9% tax (for PA) is $619/Mo. (i.e. $568 per month + $51 tax).

    • Good deal?

    I'm getting the same payment as you. Only way to get a lower payment is to either negotiate a lower selling price or look into using MSDs to lower the MF.

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  • 2454acc2454acc Member Posts: 11

    Could you please advise the RV and MF for 24/10, 24/12, 36/10 and 36/12 for both the RX350 and RX450H? Also, please confirm that up to 9 security deposits of $650 each can be submitted, with a MF discount of 0.00008 apiece. Thanks!

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,362

    @2454acc said:
    Could you please advise the RV and MF for 24/10, 24/12, 36/10 and 36/12 for both the RX350 and RX450H? Also, please confirm that up to 9 security deposits of $650 each can be submitted, with a MF discount of 0.00008 apiece. Thanks!

    .00105 MF for both models.

    Security deposits are the monthly payment rounded up to the next $50, not a fixed amount. Confirm max 9 MSD, but I have conflicting info on the per MSD reduction.

    Residuals for RX350:

    24/12 - 72%

    36/12 - 62%

    Add 1% for 10K

    Subtract 2% for RX450h.

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  • jessica2011jessica2011 Member Posts: 39
    As per info from 2 Lexus dealers in New Jersey
    Multiple security deposits reduce your money factor by .00008 for each deposit. Maximum 9 deposits reduce it by .00072

    Each deposit rounded up to next 25 dollars of monthly lease.
  • pan804pan804 Member Posts: 6

    Hi,

    Can you pls tell me how much can i negotiate with the following deal in Southern California?

                                              Retail
    

    Vehicle Base Model ....................: $ 40795.00
    Total Accessories .....................: $ 6399.00

    STANDARD FEATURES

    • 3.5 Liter 270HP Four Cam 24-Valve V6 Engine
    • with Variable Valve Timing (VVT-i)
    • 6-Sp Automatic Transmission w/"Snow Mode"
    • 18" Aluminum Alloy Wheels
    • Tire Pressure Monitoring System
    • 10 Airbags: Driver & Front Passenger: Front, Knee
    • & Side (6), Rear Side (2), Side Curtain (2)
    • Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) with Electronic
    • Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) & Brake Assist
    • Automatic On/Off Headlamps/Integrated Fog Lamps
    • LED Daytime Running Lamps (DRL)
    • Vehicle Theft-Deterrent Sys w/Engine Immobilizer
    • Safety Connect: Automatic Collision Notification,
    • Stolen Vehicle Location, Emergency Assist Button
    • (SOS), and Enhanced Roadside Assistance
    • (1-year trial subscription included)
    • Lexus 12 speaker Premium Display Audio System,
    • HD Radio w/ iTunes tagging, USB iPod/MP3 Control,
    • SiriusXM Satellite Radio (90-day All Access trial
    • subscription included)
    • Backup Camera
    • Auto Dual Zone Climate Control Sys w/Rear Vents
    • 10-Way Power Front Seats
    • Power Tilt-and-Telescopic Steering Column
    • Reclining/Sliding 40/20/40 Split Rear Seat
    • Power Back Door
    • Rear View Mirror - Auto Dimming, Homelink Garage
    • Door Opener
    • SmartAccess Passive Entry System
    • Genuine Wood Interior Trim
    • Multi-Information Display with Lexus Personalized
    • Settings, Trip Computer & Outside Temp Display
    • Tonneau Cover
      Retail Total
      Vehicle Base Model ..........................:$ 40795.00 $ 40795.00
      DVD Premium Audio for Navigation ...........
      Heated and Ventilated Front Seats .......... 640.00
      Navigation System with Voice Command ....... 1915.00
      Lexus Enform with Destination Assist and ...
      eDestination, SiriusXM NavTraffic, NavWeather
      Stocks, Sports & Fuel prices (1-year trial .
      subscription included), Subscription-Free Enf
      App Suite ..................................
      Intuitive Parking Assist ................... 500.00
      Premium Package w/Blind Spot Monitor System: 2760.00
      Leather Trim Interior, Blind Spot Monitor Sys
      One-Touch Open/Close Moonroof, Power-folding
      Electrochromic Heated Outside Mirrors, Driver
      Seat/Steering/Mirror Memory-3 settings, Roof
      Wood & Leather Trimmed Steering Wheel & Shift 330.00
      Cargo Mat,Cargo Net,Wheel Lock & Key Glove . 254.00
      --------- ---------
      Total Accessories ...........................: $ 6399.00 $ 6399.00
      Destination Charge ..........................: $ 910.00
      ---------
      Total .......................................: $ 48104.00

    This RX 350 is Nebula Grey with Black Interior.

    Lease:

    Term 24 months
    Miles 12,000 per year
    Money out of Pocket $1,070.93
    Monthly Payment $481.48 plus sales tax = $520.00

    Term 24 months
    Miles 12,000 per year
    Money out of Pocket $1,070.93
    Monthly Payment $481.48 plus sales tax = $520.00

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