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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237

    So...
    Some friends of mine had been asking me if I was interested in running for Commonwealth Attorney next year; I said I'd give it some thought. In any case I thought I had until January to make the call- but no such luck; the incumbent decided to retire effective 10/1/17. This means I have to throw my hat in the ring within the next few days to have a decent shot at being appointed for the rest of the unexpired term- a big advantage over any opposition.
    Pros:
    1. The salary is over 6 times what I'm currently making
    2. It's basically a 9-5 job at worst if you manage the caseload properly.
    3. No work on holidays or weekends

    Cons:
    1. More responsibility
    2. Not car-oriented
    3. I will have to campaign one more time...

    Decisions, decisions...

    So...
    Some friends of mine had been asking me if I was interested in running for Commonwealth Attorney next year; I said I'd give it some thought. In any case I thought I had until January to make the call- but no such luck; the incumbent decided to retire effective 10/1/17. This means I have to throw my hat in the ring within the next few days to have a decent shot at being appointed for the rest of the unexpired term- a big advantage over any opposition.
    Pros:
    1. The salary is over 6 times what I'm currently making
    2. It's basically a 9-5 job at worst if you manage the caseload properly.
    3. No work on holidays or weekends

    Cons:
    1. More responsibility
    2. Not car-oriented
    3. I will have to campaign one more time...

    Decisions, decisions...

    If the money is important to you I'd say go for it. Otherwise I think you've found your perfect retirement dream job.

    Unless...

    You can work it where the traffic fines require the drivers to loan you their cars for the week end in return for a light sentence. ;)

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,027
    @roadburner - I'm really torn about the advice I want to give you.

    On one hand, @abacomike has summarized perfectly all the pros about staying with the BMW dealer. Not sure how many hours you are putting in there, and if nights and weekends are already involved, but you have a real passion for the job (except for the dimbulb yahoos, I suppose) that shows in your posts.

    On the other hand, the number of quality folks in politics has to be running in the single digits. Our state governor started out as an engineer in the energy industry, then opened one of the first brewpubs in Denver. He got annoyed at some parking meter issues, and turned that into a run for mayor. After two terms, he was one of the most popular politicians in the state, and is now finishing up his second term as governor. He hasn't been perfect, but has been mentioned as a VP-candidate in 2020 (with John Kasich as the top name on the ticket).

    What I'm getting at is that folks like you are rare in politics - you don't seem to be in it for yourself, but to provide a quality service to the population.

    It all comes down to this - what do you want? Are you happy now? Will you regret not taking the political position that's been offered? Do you have aspirations for advancement at the BMW dealer?

    Not easy questions to answer, for sure, but we all trust you'll make the right decision for you.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    RB. I second Michaell's statement wholeheartedly. There are good people in political positions who usually get the grocery bag of insults lobbed at them by the media and other embedded politicians because they are upsetting the gravy train. You seem like someone who is confident enough to weather those grenades.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,462
    Might not be bad in a helicopter or Learjet :)



    I've heard of people who actually commute from Moses Lake to Seattle! That's nuts!

  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    ...and then there is the press butting into your private life and the public who will believe they own you to deal with Roadburner. If you run and win, will you be in a position to walk away after your term is over if you want? Also, do you have a thick enough skin to deal with all of these parameters?
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,126

    I see Richard Rollins of Gas Monkey fame has a new show where he does garage rescues like the bar rescue show. Not optimistic. I watched his old show for the cars not the drama.

    Really surprised the network felt he couldn't carry the "Gas Monkey Garage" show without Aaron!
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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    RB: Only you can decide that one. You seem well suited to BMW job and they probably will want to keep and promote someone knowledgeable who can help sell cars.

    My concern would be how the car selling model may change. Maybe car selling will remain the same, or, it may get streamlined. Maybe a place to test cars with service centers, but, cars might be sold directly online or by companies like amazon. Look how commissions have been slashed....because the salesman's role isn't as important as it once was. Then, there are the hours to consider too.....retail has become a brutal place to work - late, weekends, evenings, holidays............

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    iluv....I agree with the others. Don't take on too much at first, renting might be good while you investigate the area, see where you will want to live....learn the landscape.

    Car can wait, might even come down in price. Besides, you might change your mind in another month or two, I think you have done that a few times already! :p

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,354
    Thanks to everyone for their input and well wishes. I've decided to throw my hat in the ring. When I was a judge Iwas up for election every four years, but luckily I only had contested elections in 1986 and 2002. Dealing with the press and the public were part and parcel of the job. The way I see it, I have the opportunity to serve 7 years- at that time I'll be 67 and I would have absolutely no interest i another term.
    That said, I really do like my job, but the financial benefits and the free weekends and holidays are impossible to ignore.

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Don't take on too much at first, renting might be good while you investigate the area, see where you will want to live....learn the landscape.

    Totally agree. Unless you have kids that need to lock in a school district, or have some really good insight into the area available to you, I think it is usually a good idea to rent for a year and learn the area. A mistake buying house can become very expensive very quickly. I've practiced what I'm preaching over the years as well.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,027

    Thanks to everyone for their input and well wishes. I've decided to throw my hat in the ring. When I was a judge Iwas up for election every four years, but luckily I only had contested elections in 1986 and 2002. Dealing with the press and the public were part and parcel of the job. The way I see it, I have the opportunity to serve 7 years- at that time I'll be 67 and I would have absolutely no interest i another term.
    That said, I really do like my job, but the financial benefits and the free weekends and holidays are impossible to ignore.

    Well, then, best of luck to you. Time and money are certainly big factors in your decision

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237

    Thanks to everyone for their input and well wishes. I've decided to throw my hat in the ring. When I was a judge Iwas up for election every four years, but luckily I only had contested elections in 1986 and 2002. Dealing with the press and the public were part and parcel of the job. The way I see it, I have the opportunity to serve 7 years- at that time I'll be 67 and I would have absolutely no interest i another term.
    That said, I really do like my job, but the financial benefits and the free weekends and holidays are impossible to ignore.

    So since you'll be back in politics we can all become anonymous sources and spread nasty rumors with impunity? Or will we all get a deal on Ms to keep our mouths shut? :)

    Good luck, I agree with what the other said about the need for honest politicians to hold office.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Sometimes I think people who complain about a corrupt system, should get involved in the system, and try to change it. It is easy to complain....the real work is making a difference.

    RB, I think you made the right decision.....though, not an easy one. Guess you will have to get used to kissing babies though :@

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,518

    Thanks to everyone for their input and well wishes. I've decided to throw my hat in the ring. When I was a judge Iwas up for election every four years, but luckily I only had contested elections in 1986 and 2002. Dealing with the press and the public were part and parcel of the job. The way I see it, I have the opportunity to serve 7 years- at that time I'll be 67 and I would have absolutely no interest i another term.
    That said, I really do like my job, but the financial benefits and the free weekends and holidays are impossible to ignore.

    Best of luck @roadburner! Very hard to argue with more money and less hours. Now on to this election? Do you need our help to fabricate dig up some alternative facts? We can start working on a smear strong political campaign for you. I've already obtained video evidence of your opponent burying Jimmy Hoffa.

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,126
    RB....probably a little late to this party, but sounds like you're making the right move. I know you love cars, specifically BMWs. But, the reality of the situation, as @driver100 points out, is the industry overall is about to enter a period of upheaval given how Tesla is pushing the "status quo" out the door. May not happen today, or tomorrow, or even next year.....but somewhere in the foreseeable future, there's going to be a big change in how the manufacturers sell their cars.

    That said, public office is where you have more experience. If you were 20, 30....hell, even 40 years old, you could probably make a case to rise through the ranks at a dealership or with a car manufacturer working for them. Staring at a career life span of 7 years? Take the better hours and money.

    Good luck!
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,462
    I think RB would be at the right level to fight corruption. Anything much higher, and it could be dangerous on a few levels (especially these days where sketchiness seems to be celebrated). Anything lower might not be relevant. From what a friend of mine told me about working for a county government in GA, it is not exactly the most ethical level of work in the world. And no doubt the same in most every state.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    nyccarguy said:

    Thanks to everyone for their input and well wishes. I've decided to throw my hat in the ring. When I was a judge Iwas up for election every four years, but luckily I only had contested elections in 1986 and 2002. Dealing with the press and the public were part and parcel of the job. The way I see it, I have the opportunity to serve 7 years- at that time I'll be 67 and I would have absolutely no interest i another term.
    That said, I really do like my job, but the financial benefits and the free weekends and holidays are impossible to ignore.

    Best of luck @roadburner! Very hard to argue with more money and less hours. Now on to this election? Do you need our help to fabricate dig up some alternative facts? We can start working on a smear strong political campaign for you. I've already obtained video evidence of your opponent burying Jimmy Hoffa.
    Just hire somebody like Fusion GPS to do that dirty work, they play both sides against the middle. All it takes is cash and no morals.

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  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,618
    edited September 2017
    RB may serve as a monument opposing the concept that "normal decent" people never run for office, mostly owing to the "research" (real or imagined) that is often brought to bear.

    Hope it works out.

    Until now, my concept was that no decent person would ever run for office, or they did, they'd be beaten like a baby seal. I'll be happy to be proven wrong.

    I'll try not to believe my lying eyes going forward.
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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    cdnpinhead Until now, my concept was that no decent person would ever run for office, or they did, they'd be beaten like a baby seal. I'll be happy to be proven wrong


    To run for office, it helps if you are a psychopath or narcissist, or are just power hungry....or sometimes it runs in the family. Occasionally, it is the only job the person is qualified able to obtain. Very infrequently, good, decent people do get into office, but, that, is an exception.

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  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351
    edited September 2017
    Michaell said:

    @roadburner - I'm really torn about the advice I want to give you.

    On one hand, @abacomike has summarized perfectly all the pros about staying with the BMW dealer. Not sure how many hours you are putting in there, and if nights and weekends are already involved, but you have a real passion for the job (except for the dimbulb yahoos, I suppose) that shows in your posts.

    On the other hand, the number of quality folks in politics has to be running in the single digits. Our state governor started out as an engineer in the energy industry, then opened one of the first brewpubs in Denver. He got annoyed at some parking meter issues, and turned that into a run for mayor. After two terms, he was one of the most popular politicians in the state, and is now finishing up his second term as governor. He hasn't been perfect, but has been mentioned as a VP-candidate in 2020 (with John Kasich as the top name on the ticket).

    That would be an interesting pair, Kasich is a Republican (although he acts like a Democrat) and Hickenlooper is a Democrat. Are you expecting one or the other to change parties? What of President Trump?

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  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351

    Thanks to everyone for their input and well wishes. I've decided to throw my hat in the ring. When I was a judge Iwas up for election every four years, but luckily I only had contested elections in 1986 and 2002. Dealing with the press and the public were part and parcel of the job. The way I see it, I have the opportunity to serve 7 years- at that time I'll be 67 and I would have absolutely no interest i another term.
    That said, I really do like my job, but the financial benefits and the free weekends and holidays are impossible to ignore.

    Good call RB. Best of luck. When will the replacement be named?

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,027
    houdini1 said:

    Michaell said:

    @roadburner - I'm really torn about the advice I want to give you.

    On one hand, @abacomike has summarized perfectly all the pros about staying with the BMW dealer. Not sure how many hours you are putting in there, and if nights and weekends are already involved, but you have a real passion for the job (except for the dimbulb yahoos, I suppose) that shows in your posts.

    On the other hand, the number of quality folks in politics has to be running in the single digits. Our state governor started out as an engineer in the energy industry, then opened one of the first brewpubs in Denver. He got annoyed at some parking meter issues, and turned that into a run for mayor. After two terms, he was one of the most popular politicians in the state, and is now finishing up his second term as governor. He hasn't been perfect, but has been mentioned as a VP-candidate in 2020 (with John Kasich as the top name on the ticket).

    That would be an interesting pair, Kasich is a Republican (although he acts like a Democrat) and Hickenlooper is a Democrat. Are you expecting one or the other to change parties? What of President Trump?

    Doubt that either would change parties. The prez talk has grown out of work they are doing on an updated healthcare plan that should annoy everyone, given the bi-partisan nature of the proposal.

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    houdini1 said:

    Thanks to everyone for their input and well wishes. I've decided to throw my hat in the ring. When I was a judge Iwas up for election every four years, but luckily I only had contested elections in 1986 and 2002. Dealing with the press and the public were part and parcel of the job. The way I see it, I have the opportunity to serve 7 years- at that time I'll be 67 and I would have absolutely no interest i another term.
    That said, I really do like my job, but the financial benefits and the free weekends and holidays are impossible to ignore.

    Good call RB. Best of luck. When will the replacement be named?
    Coming in after you've made your decision.....

    It sounds almost like a no brainer and of course, you can always go back. They would take you back in an instant.

    I'll visit my old store once in awhile. All of the managers are still there and probably half of the salespeople I worked with. I decided to retire when it was no longer fun. I found myself looking at my watch hoping the day would end. I got to the point where I would avoid certain customers. Instead of staying late for a customer who may or not show up I let someone else handle them for a half deal. Doing these things wasn't fair to myself, our customers or to the store. I no longer felt challenged. I loved going in as a Team Leader and closing the difficult cuustomers. I was very good at that but the drudgery of calling customers and taking scary test drives with people who shouldn't have had a driver's license finally got to me. That's when I left without any real regrets.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    edited September 2017

    RB may serve as a monument opposing the concept that "normal decent" people never run for office, mostly owing to the "research" (real or imagined) that is often brought to bear.

    Hope it works out.

    Until now, my concept was that no decent person would ever run for office, or they did, they'd be beaten like a baby seal. I'll be happy to be proven wrong.

    I'll try not to believe my lying eyes going forward.

    I might have mentioned this before but in the 1960s my father was part of an independent insurgent party that ousted an entrenched corrupt political regime in our city. I got an introduction to dirty politics at an early age when I would answer the phone and get death threats. Imagine the mind set of a person who would threaten a child with being murdered.

    Nevertheless, dad's party won two elections in a row but started to become as corrupt as those they deposed. He became disgusted and left the party.

    Lot of truth to that saying about power and corruption being intertwined. Hope RB can resist the lure.

    BTW what judgeship is he seeking...traffic, criminal, civil? My cousin was a city court judge and he had some interesting stories about people who made regular appearances before him.

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  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351
    Michaell said:

    houdini1 said:

    Michaell said:

    @roadburner - I'm really torn about the advice I want to give you.

    On one hand, @abacomike has summarized perfectly all the pros about staying with the BMW dealer. Not sure how many hours you are putting in there, and if nights and weekends are already involved, but you have a real passion for the job (except for the dimbulb yahoos, I suppose) that shows in your posts.

    On the other hand, the number of quality folks in politics has to be running in the single digits. Our state governor started out as an engineer in the energy industry, then opened one of the first brewpubs in Denver. He got annoyed at some parking meter issues, and turned that into a run for mayor. After two terms, he was one of the most popular politicians in the state, and is now finishing up his second term as governor. He hasn't been perfect, but has been mentioned as a VP-candidate in 2020 (with John Kasich as the top name on the ticket).

    That would be an interesting pair, Kasich is a Republican (although he acts like a Democrat) and Hickenlooper is a Democrat. Are you expecting one or the other to change parties? What of President Trump?

    Doubt that either would change parties. The prez talk has grown out of work they are doing on an updated healthcare plan that should annoy everyone, given the bi-partisan nature of the proposal.
    Well, I wish them the best on fixing obamacare. Everyone could use some relief.

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  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,618
    edited September 2017
    Bear in mind that what many people who are most vocal about this want is a welfare program, not insurance. It'll be expensive, and no one wants to pay for it -- the ultimate no-win situation.
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited September 2017
    That's called "Medicaid"--for when you've used up all your assets.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,354
    houdini1 said:

    Thanks to everyone for their input and well wishes. I've decided to throw my hat in the ring. When I was a judge Iwas up for election every four years, but luckily I only had contested elections in 1986 and 2002. Dealing with the press and the public were part and parcel of the job. The way I see it, I have the opportunity to serve 7 years- at that time I'll be 67 and I would have absolutely no interest i another term.
    That said, I really do like my job, but the financial benefits and the free weekends and holidays are impossible to ignore.

    Good call RB. Best of luck. When will the replacement be named?
    Sometime before October 1st.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,462
    The best part is that every "fix" so far is just as flawed as the original, if not more so.

    And in nations with legitimately high human development indices, people don't have to worry about exhausting their life savings before they can receive help.
    houdini1 said:


    Well, I wish them the best on fixing obamacare. Everyone could use some relief.

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    fintail said:

    The best part is that every "fix" so far is just as flawed as the original, if not more so.

    And in nations with legitimately high human development indices, people don't have to worry about exhausting their life savings before they can receive help.

    houdini1 said:


    Well, I wish them the best on fixing obamacare. Everyone could use some relief.

    Largest single cause of bankruptcy filings in America--medical bills.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    ...Yet mediocre healthcare results compared to much of the western world. Of course, some of that may be Americans' personal habits I suppose.

    I think Obamacare was too focused on insurance companies and big pharma, with not enough attention paid to doctors, nurses, pharmacists and hospital administrators personally. The Republicans don't seem to have a real plan despite umpteen years of complaining though.

    Someone talked about a potential Kasich 3rd party run. I say go for it. The current political duopoly in America has become as broken as the GM Ford duopoly of the 70's (rising prices, declining quality). We need new (competent) competition in our government. Draining the swamp means getting rid of the current political leadership in both parties, followed by the lobbyists in my book.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,462
    I am afraid this is going to be too political, but draining the swamp is a hilarious thought. You certainly don't accomplish it with a son in law and Wall Streeters. Neither D nor R are a way forward, in their current form anyway/

    American personal habits don't help, but when one examines per-capita expenses and life expectancies, there might be more at play. I can't say I believe medial bankruptcy should be a thing in a truly developed nation.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    edited September 2017
    I'll say one thing and then stop because this is way too political and off topic.

    As someone who went without health insurance for 20 years because I was too poor to afford it and too rich to get it free I certainly didn't like the old system. We nearly went bankrupt when my wife had her first stroke. Having said that, the cost of having purchased health insurance during that peroid would have cost us 5 times what her medical bills turned out to be. A no win situation. Medicaid wasn't available because of the resource limits. Our choice was to sell the farm and lose our livelyhood or go without.

    Hillarycare, Obamacare and other proposals would have forced us into bankruptcy or out of business.

    I don't know what the answer is to the healthcare mess but I don't have confidence in a government run system's ability to contain costs and maintain quality. The current system bankrupts some but I think a forced government system will eventually bankrupt itself.

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    edited September 2017

    2017 Kia Forte 6-speed sedan

    Mr. Schreyer (or someone else in Kia) designed some fine-looking headlight lenses, dudes.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237


    2017 Kia Forte 6-speed sedan

    Mr. Schreyer (or someone else in Kia) designed some fine-looking headlight lenses, dudes.

    I have to admit that Kia has some nice styling. How are they on reliability and longevity?

    Did they go through the same teething problems as Hyundai?

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Sorry to change topic but....I need a quick answer if someone knows.

    I was selling a pair of tennis shows on Kijiji (which is exactly like Craigslist, but in Canada). One guy wants them but lives 200 miles away. I don't have or want a pen pal account so I said if he could send me the money I would send the shoes....thinking a check. I said we would split the cost to mail....$7 each.

    One thing that makes me wonder is at first he had a friend who lived near me who might buy the shoes for him, and the friend would pay cash...which is what I wanted when I placed the ad. Another thing is, if he is trusting me to put the money into my account, why not mail me a check?

    He said he will put the money into my bank account.

    Then, he said: I think my friend might be experiencing a hectic week.

    Could we go to the shipping option? Can you provide me with an email address associated with your bank account for EMT payment? That will be the safest and the quickest.


    So, my question is, if I give him my bank account info can anything go wrong?

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594


    2017 Kia Forte 6-speed sedan

    Mr. Schreyer (or someone else in Kia) designed some fine-looking headlight lenses, dudes.

    Those Fortes are really nice looking cars. Kia has some good designers on board.

    But, wait a few months before buying....you don't need an extra complication at this time.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    edited September 2017
    berri said:

    Someone talked about a potential Kasich 3rd party run.

    As an Ohio resident I have to comment on the Kasick mentions. He's not doing well in Ohio as he wants to pretend. He's the bantam rooster that prances around the barnyard with his colors on. He's the spoiler when he's not the focus of the cameras. He's the one who's jealous of the other guys in a group and tries to backstab them with comments afterwards. The media points out the landslide reelection victory in his last gubernatorial campaign. They don't mention that he was running against a guy well known to be the 19th co-conspirator in a Cuyahoga County area corruption scheme where he was a commissioner IIRC; he just wasn't indicted while the other 18 were.

    Kasick pretends to have solved the money shortfall when he was first elected in Ohio. He never mentions that it was done by reducing or eliminating the state paying large portions of money to local entities and to schools. Reducing those meant the communities and schools had to make drastic cuts and then eventually go for levies--but that delayed the obvious results of the cuts for a few years as they used up rainy day funds and tried to save money by cuts to services. AND the state budgets have gone UP in spending each year. Higher income has helped keep the budgets balanced after he made drastic cuts. Note that local taxes in Ohio rank very high compared to the rest of the country.

    He also crows about his having balanced the budget when he was on committees in DC, but he wasn't the only one on those committees, was he? See paragraph #1.

    Most outrageous was his taking over the press conference after the terrorist drove the car into students on OSU's campus. A press conference about the incident turned into a crowing campaign speech about what he claimed to have done.

    I suspect Jerry Springer could beat him for governor if Kasick could run again.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    edited September 2017
    driver100 said:

    So, my question is, if I give him my bank account info can anything go wrong?

    Absolutely nothing will go wrong for HIM. He'll have a GREAT day. Don't forget to incude your ID numbers and other information so he can open more account with credit cards and get loans in your name.

    This is why PayPal is good for insulating your credit cards and bank accounts from people like him.

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    Thanks to everyone for their input and well wishes. I've decided to throw my hat in the ring. When I was a judge Iwas up for election every four years, but luckily I only had contested elections in 1986 and 2002. Dealing with the press and the public were part and parcel of the job. The way I see it, I have the opportunity to serve 7 years- at that time I'll be 67 and I would have absolutely no interest i another term. That said, I really do like my job, but the financial benefits and the free weekends and holidays are impossible to ignore.
    Good call RB. Best of luck. When will the replacement be named?
    Sometime before October 1st.
    Good luck RB!

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,318
    driver100 said:

    Sorry to change topic but....I need a quick answer if someone knows.

    I was selling a pair of tennis shows on Kijiji (which is exactly like Craigslist, but in Canada). One guy wants them but lives 200 miles away. I don't have or want a pen pal account so I said if he could send me the money I would send the shoes....thinking a check. I said we would split the cost to mail....$7 each.

    One thing that makes me wonder is at first he had a friend who lived near me who might buy the shoes for him, and the friend would pay cash...which is what I wanted when I placed the ad. Another thing is, if he is trusting me to put the money into my account, why not mail me a check?

    He said he will put the money into my bank account.

    Then, he said: I think my friend might be experiencing a hectic week.

    Could we go to the shipping option? Can you provide me with an email address associated with your bank account for EMT payment? That will be the safest and the quickest.


    So, my question is, if I give him my bank account info can anything go wrong?

    Are tennis shoes like pickleball shoes, only not Kermit-green? :)

    The way that money transfer works is that he goes into his online banking and uses that function that is shown there. You get an email from that bank saying you have a pending transfer incoming. It has a link included and you follow it. Just make sure the links are legit with https: prefixes and legit banking sites. I've done it a few times. It seems scary and somewhat magical but it does work.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    driver100 said:

    So, my question is, if I give him my bank account info can anything go wrong?

    Absolutely nothing will go wrong for HIM. He'll have a GREAT day. Don't forget to incude your ID numbers and other information so he can open more account with credit cards and get loans in your name.

    This is why PayPal is good for insulating your credit cards and bank accounts from people like him.

    How will he get credit card info and I.D. information? People do wire money to someone's account.
    Not saying what you say isn't true, just don't see how he can find out more.
    I could just ask him to send a check.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,318

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    ab348 said:

    driver100 said:

    Sorry to change topic but....I need a quick answer if someone knows.

    I was selling a pair of tennis shows on Kijiji (which is exactly like Craigslist, but in Canada). One guy wants them but lives 200 miles away. I don't have or want a pen pal account so I said if he could send me the money I would send the shoes....thinking a check. I said we would split the cost to mail....$7 each.

    One thing that makes me wonder is at first he had a friend who lived near me who might buy the shoes for him, and the friend would pay cash...which is what I wanted when I placed the ad. Another thing is, if he is trusting me to put the money into my account, why not mail me a check?

    He said he will put the money into my bank account.

    Then, he said: I think my friend might be experiencing a hectic week.

    Could we go to the shipping option? Can you provide me with an email address associated with your bank account for EMT payment? That will be the safest and the quickest.


    So, my question is, if I give him my bank account info can anything go wrong?

    Are tennis shoes like pickleball shoes, only not Kermit-green? :)

    The way that money transfer works is that he goes into his online banking and uses that function that is shown there. You get an email from that bank saying you have a pending transfer incoming. It has a link included and you follow it. Just make sure the links are legit with https: prefixes and legit banking sites. I've done it a few times. It seems scary and somewhat magical but it does work.
    Actually, you can use tennis shoes for pickleball very nicely.....and the laces are Kermit Frog Green!


    Your answer sounds like it is pretty safe. What information does he need from me in order to send the funds.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    ab348 said:
    That sounds fine. What email address will he be using? We can give him our account number and our email address. We can give him the banks number etc....like what appears on the bottom of a check. Will that do it.

    btw....I had Asic Speed 2 shoes and they were great. Then i buy Speed 3s assuming they would be the same, and they made them narrower and tighter all around :s This is a lot of work for $40! :@

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,318
    You don't need to supply account numbers from what I recall, just a valid email address. Everything else is done via Interac and online banking. It's been a few years though.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    ab, so we only have to supply our email address?

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,841
    @driver100 I'd walk away from this. Feels a little to scammy. 
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  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,351
    edited September 2017

    I'll say one thing and then stop because this is way too political and off topic.

    As someone who went without health insurance for 20 years because I was too poor to afford it and too rich to get it free I certainly didn't like the old system. We nearly went bankrupt when my wife had her first stroke. Having said that, the cost of having purchased health insurance during that peroid would have cost us 5 times what her medical bills turned out to be. A no win situation. Medicaid wasn't available because of the resource limits. Our choice was to sell the farm and lose our livelyhood or go without.

    Hillarycare, Obamacare and other proposals would have forced us into bankruptcy or out of business.

    I don't know what the answer is to the healthcare mess but I don't have confidence in a government run system's ability to contain costs and maintain quality. The current system bankrupts some but I think a forced government system will eventually bankrupt itself.

    Of, you just exposed the elephant in the room that no one seems to want to mention. The root cause of all this healthcare madness is that healthcare simply costs too much, and that this is caused by the greed of the medical community, big pharma, and graft and corruption. The only fix is to solve that issue. Nothing else is going to work.

    When I was a kid growing up in the '50's, no one had health insurance, but we had doctors and hospitals that had reasonable prices. Everyone was able to just pay out of pocket. Even the few who were totally destitute were not turned away and received care.

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