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imidazol97

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

I want to wish all of our Canadian friends a Happy Thanksgiving today! May you eat, drink, laugh and enjoy yourselves.

So they give thanks that Columbus discovered Canada? Just kidding.

Speaking of school buses, this is why I retired.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/09/maryland-man-clings-to-school-bus-hood-arrested-after-student-allegedly-throws-bottle.html

Reading the posts commenting on the article is a study in hilarity and sanity. First off, the driver should have stopped instead of driving with a person wanting to identify the kid who threw the bottle at his car. Reckless.

Notice that nothing is mentioned in the article about discipline for the kid. Nothing. NADA. Most of the buses should have video cameras in them. But nothing mentioned. No wonder bus drivers are hard to find. The City of Dayton public schools can't get them to show up for their routes in many cases. They can't find substitute drivers. The kids are in charge is the problem. And then there's the parent that's completely insane in a few cases.

berri

I remember way back in junior high school having a school bus driver that knew best how to handle it all. He drove trucks in the Korean war, so he wasn't easily excited. He'd issue a warning when things were getting too rowdy. The next step was pulling the bus to the side, getting off and smoking a cigarette. Kids started getting concerned about tardy slips in the morning or getting home in the afternoon, so it quickly quieted down. Can you imagine that today? He'd be fired...and this is just a snapshot of what is going wrong in America!

roadburner

imidazol97 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

I want to wish all of our Canadian friends a Happy Thanksgiving today! May you eat, drink, laugh and enjoy yourselves.

So they give thanks that Columbus discovered Canada? Just kidding.

Speaking of school buses, this is why I retired.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/09/maryland-man-clings-to-school-bus-hood-arrested-after-student-allegedly-throws-bottle.html

Reading the posts commenting on the article is a study in hilarity and sanity. First off, the driver should have stopped instead of driving with a person wanting to identify the kid who threw the bottle at his car. Reckless.

Notice that nothing is mentioned in the article about discipline for the kid. Nothing. NADA. Most of the buses should have video cameras in them. But nothing mentioned. No wonder bus drivers are hard to find. The City of Dayton public schools can't get them to show up for their routes in many cases. They can't find substitute drivers. The kids are in charge is the problem. And then there's the parent that's completely insane in a few cases.

That's one of many reasons why I am so grateful that I no longer preside in Juvenile Court; today a kid has to be practically a serial killer before you can put him/her in detention- and the punks know this and ignore laws and court orders with the assurance that nothing will happen to them.
A far cry from the days when I'd detain a kid for unexcused absences or for getting too many office or bus referrals...

andres3

iluvmysephia1 said:

A workmate told me that the highway I spend the most time on during my commute, Highway 97A, is the most dangerous highway for fatalities in the state of Washington. Immediately my mind went right to Subaru, of course. I get slightly OCD at times, but in a good way. Because it's centered on cars, it's good. But the Mrs. is really worried about me - my commute is 58 miles, stickguy. It takes 1 hour and 4 minutes in light traffic. As a Sleep Tech, I am up all night and I do get very, very tired at about 7:30AM, when I get off of work. I am completely convincing myself I could use a Subaru now - I really am.

The 2017/18 Subaru Impreza tracks very well and corners very well - anything helps - a nanny add-on like lane departure would probably help me in the morning commute back home - because I do nod off if I'm really tired!

You need something faster, like a TTRS so you can get home before you nod off.

oldfarmer50

imidazol97 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

I want to wish all of our Canadian friends a Happy Thanksgiving today! May you eat, drink, laugh and enjoy yourselves.

So they give thanks that Columbus discovered Canada? Just kidding.

Speaking of school buses, this is why I retired.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/09/maryland-man-clings-to-school-bus-hood-arrested-after-student-allegedly-throws-bottle.html

Reading the posts commenting on the article is a study in hilarity and sanity. First off, the driver should have stopped instead of driving with a person wanting to identify the kid who threw the bottle at his car. Reckless.

Notice that nothing is mentioned in the article about discipline for the kid. Nothing. NADA. Most of the buses should have video cameras in them. But nothing mentioned. No wonder bus drivers are hard to find. The City of Dayton public schools can't get them to show up for their routes in many cases. They can't find substitute drivers. The kids are in charge is the problem. And then there's the parent that's completely insane in a few cases.

That is certainly a problem in that the driver's hands are tied and the kids know it. I don't know about that state but most buses here have multiple cameras--mostly pointed at the driver.

A driver in a district near me had a problem with teens on his late route engaging in sexual mischief on the late bus so he divided the students by gender. Unfortunately for him two born females identified as "non conforming binary" and refused to sit with the girls. Politically correct bedlam ensued.

And they wonder why the can't get people to drive for the same wage they could get at McDonalds.

oldfarmer50

berri said:

I remember way back in junior high school having a school bus driver that knew best how to handle it all. He drove trucks in the Korean war, so he wasn't easily excited. He'd issue a warning when things were getting too rowdy. The next step was pulling the bus to the side, getting off and smoking a cigarette. Kids started getting concerned about tardy slips in the morning or getting home in the afternoon, so it quickly quieted down. Can you imagine that today? He'd be fired...and this is just a snapshot of what is going wrong in America!

He'd be fired for smoking the cigarette just walking to the bus.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

Michaell said:

I want to wish all of our Canadian friends a Happy Thanksgiving today! May you eat, drink, laugh and enjoy yourselves.

So they give thanks that Columbus discovered Canada? Just kidding.

Speaking of school buses, this is why I retired.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/09/maryland-man-clings-to-school-bus-hood-arrested-after-student-allegedly-throws-bottle.html

First off....let us get Thanksgiving settled....we had it first!
The origins of Canadian Thanksgiving are more closely connected to the traditions of Europe than of the United States. Long before Europeans settled in North America, festivals of thanks and celebrations of harvest took place in Europe in the month of October. The very first Thanksgiving celebration in North America took place in 1578 in Canada when Martin Frobisher, an explorer from England. in search of the Northwest Passage. He wanted to give thanks for his safe arrival to the New World. That means the first Thanksgiving in Canada was celebrated 43 years before the pilgrims landed in Plymouth, Massachusetts!

RE: The guy holding onto the front of the bus. On TV this morning they praised the bus driver for driving with the guy hanging on.......to the local police station. I am with imid and others....no disciplinary actions taken against the kid for throwing the bottle is crazy! I am not sure the bus driver did the right thing either...if the guy fell off he would go right under the wheels.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

berri said:

I remember way back in junior high school having a school bus driver that knew best how to handle it all. He drove trucks in the Korean war, so he wasn't easily excited. He'd issue a warning when things were getting too rowdy. The next step was pulling the bus to the side, getting off and smoking a cigarette. Kids started getting concerned about tardy slips in the morning or getting home in the afternoon, so it quickly quieted down. Can you imagine that today? He'd be fired...and this is just a snapshot of what is going wrong in America!

He'd be fired for smoking the cigarette just walking to the bus.

Then he would be fired for making the kids late.

driver100

He'd be fired for smoking the cigarette just walking to the bus.

Then he would be fired for making the kids late.

And a 3rd time for leaving the kids unsupervised on the bus.

berri

I am not sure the bus driver did the right thing either...if the guy fell off he would go right under the wheels.
I'm surprised the school bus didn't seem to have any communications gear on it. But given that, I go with the bus driver. You've got a possible madman in a rage, a bus with kids and school buses aren't the sturdiest built things. The driver's number 1 responsibility is the safety of those kids. If the guy had fallen off, I'd think even in a liberal court, a lawsuit would be a tough sell, as would be any jury conviction for a crime.

driver100

All I know is I am glad I was in the book business. Not too much chance of a dangerous situation or dealing with angry customers or kids. Some people like School Bus Drivers have a huge responsibility, for little pay.

As it turns out, the bus driver did the right thing, I think though there would be angry protesters if the lunatic did get run over. I can see the guys family, he was a good gentle guy, he must have been walking up to the bus to talk to the driver and just got something caught on the mirror...........

berri

Hahaha!

abacomike

Sexual mischief, OF?  Maybe when we were kids - but today’s kids are much more nonchalant about that stuff.  It’s a part of their daily lives.

But segregating the kids is not the answer.  A couple of buckshot rounds over their heads would quickly restore a positive demeanor in all bus riders.  Problem solved! 

oldfarmer50

berri said:

I am not sure the bus driver did the right thing either...if the guy fell off he would go right under the wheels.
I'm surprised the school bus didn't seem to have any communications gear on it. But given that, I go with the bus driver. You've got a possible madman in a rage, a bus with kids and school buses aren't the sturdiest built things. The driver's number 1 responsibility is the safety of those kids. If the guy had fallen off, I'd think even in a liberal court, a lawsuit would be a tough sell, as would be any jury conviction for a crime.

Our district would probably have fired the driver for moving the bus, fired him if he didn't move the bus and the guy got in and fire him again for not radioing in for sensitivity training.

Did I mention that my blood pressure went down 30 points right after I retired?

driver100

and he probably would get fired for not making a 50 point inspection of the bus before driving it forward......

fordfool

imidazol97 said:

The choices of wrong words in many auto-related articles amazes me. Today's Dayton Daily Nothing that I get free online from a friend (who has 5 online shares to give) has an upscale article in business sections about how upscale folks in the area like the upscale lexus (toyota) products. Writer talks about how delivering a car used to be gas on the right, breaks on the left... etc..

It's the "Hooked on Phonics" Millennial generation!

oldfarmer50

This in my opinion is a crime against nature:



Slapping a Continental kit on a Continental AND a vinyl roof?

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

and he probably would get fired for not making a 50 point inspection of the bus before driving it forward......

162 points of inspection you mean.

berri

That Lincoln - OMG

Michaell

oldfarmer50 said:

This in my opinion is a crime against nature:



Slapping a Continental kit on a Continental AND a vinyl roof?

C'mon, OF - if that car had 26,000 miles on it and was for sale at $3200, you'd be interested....

oldfarmer50

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Michaell said:

oldfarmer50 said:

This in my opinion is a crime against nature:



Slapping a Continental kit on a Continental AND a vinyl roof?

C'mon, OF - if that car had 26,000 miles on it and was for sale at $3200, you'd be interested....

Yeah, but it's got 64k and the vandal wants $5,000.

oldfarmer50

Music to the ears of any Ford owner:

https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/d/2012-ss-camaro/6339894386.html

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

This in my opinion is a crime against nature:



Slapping a Continental kit on a Continental AND a vinyl roof?

If you want a car with some bling....you may as well go hog wild!

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

Music to the ears of any Ford owner:

https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/d/2012-ss-camaro/6339894386.html

I don't know why someone would say "low mileage", why not just say what the mileage is?

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Music to the ears of any Ford owner:

https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/d/2012-ss-camaro/6339894386.html

I don't know why someone would say "low mileage", why not just say what the mileage is?

Forget that, why would you try to sell a performance car by admitting that Mustangs are eating your lunch.

ab348

oldfarmer50 said:

This in my opinion is a crime against nature:



Slapping a Continental kit on a Continental AND a vinyl roof?

You forgot to mention the Vogues.

It's probably the most admired vehicle in Del Boca Vista.

imidazol97

oldfarmer50 said:

This in my opinion is a crime against nature:



Slapping a Continental kit on a Continental AND a vinyl roof?

Is it the parking halfway on the grass that's the problem?
Or the fact it does NOT have the gold trim package?

imidazol97

Saw a Mustang yesterday with a rectangular red Cobra emblem in the middle of the rear fascia.
Is there a new Cobra model?

It was dark grey. I never saw it from the side to inspect as we
left the dual lane exit from a shopping/business tower/food&drink center. It has a big rear end like some
Corvettes had a couple of editions back--too big. It had a growl to the exhaust. It had
temporary paper license from TEXAS.

qbrozen

oldfarmer50 said:

Music to the ears of any Ford owner:

https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/d/2012-ss-camaro/6339894386.html

post deleted

sounds like it may have been a joke, though. Like a mustang owner posting his buddy's 'maro.

driver100

That Camaro has been deleted.
Either he sold it real fast or it was a flood car!

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

This in my opinion is a crime against nature:



Slapping a Continental kit on a Continental AND a vinyl roof?

At least he didn't try to make it look like a 4 door convertible.

abacomike

oldfarmer50 said:

I am not sure the bus driver did the right thing either...if the guy fell off he would go right under the wheels. I'm surprised the school bus didn't seem to have any communications gear on it. But given that, I go with the bus driver. You've got a possible madman in a rage, a bus with kids and school buses aren't the sturdiest built things. The driver's number 1 responsibility is the safety of those kids. If the guy had fallen off, I'd think even in a liberal court, a lawsuit would be a tough sell, as would be any jury conviction for a crime.

Our district would probably have fired the driver for moving the bus, fired him if he didn't move the bus and the guy got in and fire him again for not radioing in for sensitivity training. Did I mention that my blood pressure went down 30 points right after I retired?

But ours went up! 

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

That Camaro has been deleted.
Either he sold it real fast or it was a flood car!

Probably was getting too much hate mail from other Camaro owners.

For anyone who missed it it was an ad for a2012 Camaro SS low miles $6500 who was selling it because Fords were being mean.

abacomike

imidazol97 said:

This in my opinion is a crime against nature: Slapping a Continental kit on a Continental AND a vinyl roof?

Is it the parking halfway on the grass that's the problem? Or the fact it does NOT have the gold trim package?

Owner of the house should have built it with a 2-1/2 or 3 car garage.  

As as for the Merc, most unfortunate add-on feature(s)!

oldfarmer50

imidazol97 said:

Saw a Mustang yesterday with a rectangular red Cobra emblem in the middle of the rear fascia.
Is there a new Cobra model?

It was dark grey. I never saw it from the side to inspect as we
left the dual lane exit from a shopping/business tower/food&drink center. It has a big rear end like some
Corvettes had a couple of editions back--too big. It had a growl to the exhaust. It had
temporary paper license from TEXAS.

Did it have quad pipes? Might be an 18' Shelby.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/01/shelby-super-snake-50th-anniversary-is-for-the-2018-ford-mustang-haters.html

Michaell

Does anybody drive these roads regularly?

imidazol97

That could fit what I saw. The red snake emblem between the taillights was about 3-3.5 inch tall and 1.5 inch wide, est..

As he powered away making the turns, I couldn't keep up with him in my Cobalt to look. But it was a close race, LOL.

But the engine sound was memorable. It did NOT say SHELBY on the fascia between the taillights.

pensfan83

Michaell said:

Does anybody drive these roads regularly?

I don't drive the Beltway regularly but I've driven it enough to despise it. As for Pittsburgh's entry that is the primary route to the airport and I travel it at least monthly, albeit around 6AM when traffic is light so as to avoid congestion. Otherwise it's just a mess.

I'm actually really surprised the Squirrel Hill Tunnels aren't on this list. They've been the scene of miles long backups almost since they opened in the early 50's.

28firefighter

pensfan83 said:

Michaell said:

Does anybody drive these roads regularly?

I don't drive the Beltway regularly but I've driven it enough to despise it. As for Pittsburgh's entry that is the primary route to the airport and I travel it at least monthly, albeit around 6AM when traffic is light so as to avoid congestion. Otherwise it's just a mess.

I'm actually really surprised the Squirrel Hill Tunnels aren't on this list. They've been the scene of miles long backups almost since they opened in the early 50's.

Agreed - any of the tunnels or bridges, really. Have they re-opened Liberty Bridge yet?

I don't travel it regularly anymore now that I work from home, but when I was traveling from Seattle, I took that route regularly to the airport. Interesting that the flip isn't also on the list, since rush hour on I-5 from south of the city is also particularly brutal.

fintail

You know what they say about apples and trees I've joined in on millennial whine too, but they didn't raise themselves, and have been thrown into a world of adulthood tougher than a few prior generations.

fordfool said:

It's the "Hooked on Phonics" Millennial generation!

snakeweasel

Michaell said:

Does anybody drive these roads regularly?

I cannot agree with the one listed for Chicago. I can think of a few places worse off. 

snakeweasel

Saw a great bumper sticker yesterday that if I wasn't driving I would have taken a picture of it. It was on a minivan and all it said was:

"I used to be cool"

pensfan83

28firefighter said:

Agreed - any of the tunnels or bridges, really. Have they re-opened Liberty Bridge yet?

I don't travel it regularly anymore now that I work from home, but when I was traveling from Seattle, I took that route regularly to the airport. Interesting that the flip isn't also on the list, since rush hour on I-5 from south of the city is also particularly brutal.

It's open but they are still working on it, have been for the past 2 years, but there's intermittent closures. Don't know if this made its way out to Seattle but it caught fire last fall and was apparently on the brink of collapse due to a supporting member being weakened enough to close to failing. I had co-workers as far west as St. Louis tell me it made their local news. I had a birds eye view from the building I was in that that day, I'll see if I can dig up the pictures.

stickguy

The spots on that list I have driven through, all deserve to be there!

28firefighter

@pensfan83 - not only did it make the news out here, but I received pictures of it happening live from some friends that used it for commuting. What a nightmare for anyone who lives in Dormont, Mt. Lebo, Castle Shannon etc.

Mr_Shiftright

oldfarmer50 said:

This in my opinion is a crime against nature:



Slapping a Continental kit on a Continental AND a vinyl roof?

Oh, the Full Florida with oak leaf clusters!

pensfan83

28firefighter said:

@pensfan83 - not only did it make the news out here, but I received pictures of it happening live from some friends that used it for commuting. What a nightmare for anyone who lives in Dormont, Mt. Lebo, Castle Shannon etc.

Absolutely, all of those South Hills folk were thrown a curveball for 2-3 weeks. I live in the South Hills too but more southwest so I have about 3 routes outside of the Liberty Bridge I can take into the city but I rarely, if ever drive to the office.

pensfan83

andres3

oldfarmer50 said:

berri said:

I am not sure the bus driver did the right thing either...if the guy fell off he would go right under the wheels.
I'm surprised the school bus didn't seem to have any communications gear on it. But given that, I go with the bus driver. You've got a possible madman in a rage, a bus with kids and school buses aren't the sturdiest built things. The driver's number 1 responsibility is the safety of those kids. If the guy had fallen off, I'd think even in a liberal court, a lawsuit would be a tough sell, as would be any jury conviction for a crime.

Our district would probably have fired the driver for moving the bus, fired him if he didn't move the bus and the guy got in and fire him again for not radioing in for sensitivity training.

Did I mention that my blood pressure went down 30 points right after I retired?

You need a better bus driver's union if you get fired for everything. You should be able to smoke pot during your lunch break and keep your job like those Chrysler guys.

andres3

oldfarmer50 said:

driver100 said:

That Camaro has been deleted.
Either he sold it real fast or it was a flood car!

Probably was getting too much hate mail from other Camaro owners.

For anyone who missed it it was an ad for a2012 Camaro SS low miles $6500 who was selling it because Fords were being mean.

What year did the Camaro finally shed some weight? 2016?