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I know GG is out of town and would enjoy this post from the Columbus Disgrace:
http://www.dispatch.com/news/20171116/state-patrol-ohio-crashes-up-24-percent-since-70-mph-speed-limit
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
THE DODGE CHALLENGER SRT® DEMON HAS A SUPERCHARGED 6.2L HEMI® SRT DEMON V8 ENGINE 860 hp.
I wonder what the insurance on that would be. Getting insurance on a car like that might be difficult - it’s designed and built for one thing - death-defying speed!
I remember checking insurance on a Challenger SRT- it was about the same as for my 2 Series.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Is this guy from another planet?
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I think they should just put up a couple of speed cameras every 10 miles and a red light camera at the end of the ramps and collect a few million dollars helping cash flow for the government entities. The City of Dayton has gone back to using speed cameras and red light cameras be cause their data said that absence of those since the legislature made them difficult to use has caused an increase in accidents. Dayton won a supreme court case that they did not have to have a policeman present when the camera snapped a picture to give a civil ticket. Legislators had passed that law to try to stop the use of cameras.
I just think of all the money the state could try to collect from speeders on the Interstates and high speed roads from out-of-staters. LOL
I'm conflating the two things but the state has been very clear about their data as to dates and locations. They are going to lower the speed limit on stretches of road and see if the accidents go down. That's a useful method for collecting more data despite the many other variables between the times of the data samples over 4 years max.
Indeed the state has been using a technique for varying the speed limits to get drivers used to it. Instead of physically changing the metal signs, they've been using portable electronic signs on trailers around work areas so they can adjust the speed limit as needed for safety around different levels of construction going on.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Know why? Because I drive the speed limit! I don't need an app that tells me where all the speed traps are - I'm truly thankful for each and every cop out on the highways and bi-ways. There's an overload of morons on the highway that have some weird idea that if they're not speeding, they're doing something wrong. Or, like Alabama sings, "I'm in a hurry to get things done I rush and rush until life's no fun. All I really gotta do is live and die but I'm in a hurry but don't know why."
I don't know if you need a "ballsy" car or not. If you do that's cool. I don't have a problem with that. iluvmysephia1's automobile choice? Gonna be minimal because that's what I feel the most comfortable with. I wouldn't be comfortable on a racetrack, but, and it is a hindquarters the size of Oprah's, I am not going to judge anyone who gets off on speed. In fact, any of you all watch that show 'Street Outlaws?' Kind of an entertaining show because of Chief and Nova and all of the characters.
I will always take a car that saves on ghastly. And nowadays one can find several specimen of just that kind of car. 2017 Toyota Yaris iA 6-speed stick. 2017 Toyota Yaris iA 6-speed stick. 2017 Toyota Yaris iA 6-speed stick. 3 times for emphasis.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
I tend to be careful what I buy so generally I like my cars very much after purchase.
But yes, there are numerous cars out there that aren't really slow which also return decent economy.
I tend to be careful what I buy so generally I like my cars very much after purchase.
Yeah, excellent answer. Of course it's completely a financial question. I'm the head of the household and if I want a new car, I'm going to trade for a new car. Period. Now, does that mean that I'm gonna buy an expensive new fine car that I won't be able to make payments on? Of course not!
None of you know my financial situation. You all go running like scared rabbits when I even mention not telling my wife. She can be a bearcat to deal with. I have told her that I texted our mortgage counselor already and this is is comment exactly. Here's his exact comment. "Shouldn't be an issue at all." Humm. Does that sound like he has any fear at all about us qualifying for a new ta us house loan on a fine eastern Washington house after I buy a 2017 Toyota Yaris iA? Oh, and he texted a couple of financial guru questions at me before he gave me his financially-based opinion. Thank you for answering me so efficiently and for being so helpful with that, loan counselor. Your steady work experience in Wenatchee has built a large customer base and you answering me on a Saturday morning (last Saturday morning) will be remembered when we get set ta buy a house. We'll mortgage with ya, buddy!
shifty's really the one of you who took my bait and came up with an answer that will work, although imadazol97 had some great ideas about making up and printing a balance sheet full of positive numbers. Folks, I know this is my business - it's none of yours. But I asked you all ta participate. And I truly appreciate all of your answers. I'm not judging your answers - I think we have a really mature group in here that have been around and bought many, many cars in their lives. I think you're a great group and I know that buying a car is a big, big, ballsy deal. Sort of like Foghat in May of '78 at the Seattle Center Coliseum touring in support of their 'Stone Blue' album. The absolute pinnacle of rock and roll isn't Led Zeppelin or Nirvana or Black Sabbath, it's Foghat. Big and ballsy rock and roll for those who are smart enough to know it when they hear it.
Going to Tacoma is a big time investment when you're over here in Manson. I have a sister in Bothell who probably won't do Black Friday shopping extravaganzas. I'd love ta head west over the pass and at least visit her. She needs support now. I have tomorrow off and I return to work Saturday night at 6:00PM. Time is really not an issue overall here. Right now the Mrs. would view that as something akin to wanting to go meet Russell Wilson of the Seahawks or something. IOW's - too much money, too ballsy, too extravagant and too obnoxiously iluvmysephia-ish. Right now the splitter-odds I'll head west are nothing more than 20 yep 80 nope. But ya know life is a learning experience. And I'm a Sleep Tech. I know how important sleep is to the human body. I see real train wrecks wake up that have not breathed well throughout the night. I have CPAP-ed them if they qualify and their doctor has ordered a split night study. My point in all of this?
I want a 2017 Toyota Yaris iA. I have studied this car since the late spring of 2016 and I've printed out pics of the car and taped them on my wall. I drove west from Dodge City, KS, in late May of 2016 ta go buy a 2016 Scion iA.
"Mr. iluvmysephia1, umm, someone bought your Stealth 2016 Scion iA just a half hour before you got here." It was an older Scion/Toyota salesman - I'd say late 50's like I am.
"Oh...really."
"Yeah. Just a half hour ago is what the guys are telling me."
OK, now that sounds suspicious but I don't know. Maybe that's just what happened.
"We tried ta call you on your cell phone but you never picked up. We left messages."
Ahh...OK. Now they gained 50% credibility, but, it's an Oprah-sized butt once again, I am still really suspicious of you guys because I went online and followed this car for at least a month online. It's price was $16,000 IIRC. Anyway, I have watched countless videos on the small Toyota-built car with all of the mechanicals built and supplied by Mazda Motors. I am convinced this car would be a great fit for us. I have 93,383 miles on my 2011 Kia Soul. I know it could go another 200,000 miles. And when I wake up overnight or tomorrow morning from a good night's sleep, I will weigh that heavily when deciding whether or not I'll drive off into the morning sun to test drive in Tacoma.
Thanks you all! This will be a great car. And I will make each and every payment faithfully because I would never sign on the dotted line to be responsible for a new car if I felt sheepish about paying each and every one of its payments. If I buy one in 6 months from now I will love it just as much as I will tomorrow afternoon about 3:15PM when they hand me my key. 25% go tomorrow, 75% stay and sip fine Seattle's Best coffee with Pumpkin Spice creamer tomorrow Black Friday morning with Mrs. iluvmysephia1.
Nighty-night.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
All of us here are card carrying car lovers and it’s something we all have in common. I’ve told my wife time and again that everyone has their hobbies and vices, all of which cost money (usually). The one thing I’m truly passionate about, aside from my family, is cars. I’ve set the expectation with her that I’m never going to be that guy that holds a car more than 4-5 years and likely far less. She understands...most of the time. I don’t justify car purchases or leases because usually, the only justification is “because I want it, it fits our budget, things are stable at work and I like cars.”
But, every relationship is different. Each of us here has a different relationship with our significant others (if we have them) and our experiences will likely not be a fit for yours. My wife and I make decisions jointly about every major financial purchase - childcare, cars, home-related etc and it has nothing to do with the financial strength of one of us. It’s just how our relationship started and has always been. If we can’t come to consensus, then we pivot or decide not to do it.
My point is this. None of us understand the dynamic between you and Mrs. iluv. We can simply provide advice based on our own experiences.You need to do what’s right for you and your family.
For me and my sanity, “happy wife/happy life” is the name of the game above all else.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Just joking, but I have always bought new cars when I possibly could. It may cost slightly more per year, but, I like having dependable, safe transportation with little down time. I think a good car makes me feel better, so I can be at my best for work, friends, family.
One way I justify a new car is because I don't smoke a pack of cigarettes a day....almost $3000 a year, bottle of wine a day, $3000 a year, have a boat, $5000 a year, play golf $4000 to $10000+ a year, gamble $5000+ a year.
Having a decent car is a priority in my life....I don't feel good unless I have reliable transportation. If I can't afford it I will get by, but, if I can manage it I want a car that is less than 5 years old....and I really prefer a car with a warranty.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Sounds like a good deal until....I learned that the deal is close to 26% off MSRP and that there are two color choices left (black and white) and minimally equipped. Why do these dealerships play this game by withholding pertinent information from consumers? Kind of leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
I am kinda interested in the Lacrosse but I just hate the idea of trading my 2011 Lacrosse with only 40,005 miles on the odo to make a dealer richer than he already is. I could try selling it on my own but I don't have the patience and inclination to deal with strangers. So I wait until. .....
I did go and get the F150 without even mentioning to her I was thinking about it. She got a little bent out of shape on that one. But I reminded her she has told me time and again I should just do what I want with cars at this point because she always lets me do what I want in the end anyway. Again, though, that is OUR situation.
What really worries me in your place, iluv, is this probationary period. BUT, if you are going to have a car payment either way, I don't see the harm as long as the payment is staying fairly level.
As far as the Soul continuing to depreciate, it is already worth so little that it just doesn't matter. If it loses another 10% because you crossed 100k, that is only a few hundred bucks, or the equivalent of LESS than your $500 downpayment on the new one. So I wouldn't count that as something to worry about. Repairs? Yeah, that is certainly good justification at this price point. A low monthly payment can be 6 months of trouble-free driving vs one costly repair in an old vehicle.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Compromise above all else is what has worked for us but as others have implied no one is privy to your personal life so you need to do what's good for you and Mrs. iluv. My vote would be to wait until you are settled into your new job and exit the probationary period.
We went out to Morton’s for Thanksgiving dinner late yesterday afternoon and took the S 550 Coupe. Firstly, just getting in and out of that car was difficult fo me. It is very low and tight in terms of getting my 6’2” body in the front seat. Once inside, it was just OK in terms of comfort. It is a much shorter car in terms of wheelbase, length and narrower than th S450 Sedan. In fact, except for similarities in the front dashboard and console design, the cars are as dissimilar as night and day.
Horsepower is 449 in a V8 configuration compared to 363 in my V6 - both engines are twin turbos.
Now for the ride and handling. It is, perhaps, the most stable and sportily designed cars i’ve ever been in. 4MATIC (AWD) is standard in these vehicles. It was like a bat out of pergatory as it accelerated from 30 mph to 70 mph. The seats are low and not as comfortable as the S Class Sedan, but the seats grab you automatically on sharp cornering as do the Sedan’s seats - but in the Coupe, it’s a necessity. The ride is very firm and steering is tight and precise.
The interior of of the car is light grey and the fit and finish outstanding. The dash lights up like a Christmas tree as does the main screen above the console. There are 64 different colors you can choose for the interior ambient lighting as is the case in the S Sedan. I noticed the windshield is not as large as the S Sedan, and visibility was not as good as in the S450.
The exterior of the S Coupe is exquisite - the front resembles the fronts on the entire Mercedes Line - a single Star in the center of the grille - which I happen to like. The S Class Sedan is the only model in the Line that retains the traditional front end grille with the 3-pointed star hood ornament.
Remember, the 2018 S Coupe is not in production until May-June 2018. This is a 2017 which was still in production this month. The major change will be a 4.0 L engine instead of a 4.7 L in my brother’s car. 516 ft lbs of torque makes this S Coupe a fast a responsive engine with 0-60 in under 5 seconds while the S450 V6 Twin Turbo does it in 5.0 seconds.
This is a magnificent automobile, inside, outside and under the hood. But, not a car for the tall, slightly portly driver with some physical limitations like me. I would be extremely uncomfortable on a 5 hour drive back to south Florida.
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
There are arguments for the flip side of the coin as well. My best friend thinks I'm crazy for keeping our Pilot. He thinks we should trade it in, have the dealer write us a check for the value (use that money for home improvement projects), and lease something newer. It hasn't needed any expensive repairs, but has some costly upcoming maintenance (timing belt, water pump, tensioner, spark plugs, it will probably need struts soon, brake fluid, coolant, trans fluid, differential fluid). He says I'm going to spend the money anyway, so why not use it to make level payments.
I tend to look at things longer term. Say I've got $2,500 in maintenance coming up, plus $1,500 in repairs over the next 3 years. That's (8) $500 lease payments. (36) $500 lease payments equal $18,000.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
I tend to be careful what I buy so generally I like my cars very much after purchase.
F Well, when I say "budget" I don't mean some tight-fisted, miserly, penny-pinching view of money as might be practiced by a balding old man with a curved spine counting the quarters in his mayonnaise jar in his basement---besides, my spine is very straight
But I think we all must operate under some instinct of limitation. Somewhere in our heads we must be calculating car costs vs. annual income.
As for the S Line, the S Coupe has a wheelbase of 114.9” while the S Sedan has a wheelbase of 124.6”. As to whether both are built on rhe same chassis, I do not know - but with an almost 10” larger wheelbase, the S Sedan might be different.
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
E coupe (CLK in the past) was on the C platform since it was born for 1998, but older E coupes are the same as the sedan. S coupe is a modified S sedan platform.
I tried to find an S450 without the AMG Sport configuration, but was unable to find one. They all seem to be coming in with that $5000 option. That is the major reason the left front end was damaged by the parking stoop - too low a profile.
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
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2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
If I had a need for another car and you were privately selling a car with only 40k I'd already be on the Mass Pike (in spite of the screwing on tolls for out of staters). 5700 miles a year is very attractive. What do you think it's worth on the CL circuit?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I liked the power train of ours - it was the rest of the vehicle that was substandard.
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I have a tennis friend back home that has a 2003 VUE in bright red, perfect condition, he wants to keep it forever he likes it so much. I love the looks of it...big windows and flat side panels....oh yea, fiberglass if I remember right or polymere plastic or something?
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
I get E sedans and coupes mixed up, and fintail did a wonderful job of explaining what is what...my head is still spinning, so I will just try to keep up with the sedans. I think a C coupe is as large as a 2 door coupe should be.
CLS, Audi A7 and BMW 4 door coupes....they hurt my back just looking at them....and the small slits for windows make it a no go for IMHO.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
I once tried my best to talk a customer out of a used Audi we had on our lot. I knew what her income was and making the payments would have been a real stretch. the Audi checked out just fine but it was out of warranty and I knew that aftermarket warranties on Audis were through the roof expensive for good reason!
I did my best to steer her toward something more practical but no, she just HAD to have that Audi.
Making things worse, she had a job that required driving 25,000 miles a year. Not the right car for that!
Finally she actually got annoyed with me for trying to talk her out of the Audi so I sold it to her!
In order to keep the payments within her budget she signed up for a 66 month contract. Not good!
Well, as I feared the Audi became a money pit as time went by. We kept in touch from time to time and she
even referred a couple of customers to me.
Soon, she had major electrical and transmission problems as she piled the miles on.
She did tell me that she wished she had listened to me. Soon thereafter management made the decision to
wholesale all Audis and Volvos that weren't under warranty. Land Rovers were ALL wholesaled.
I had come into a bequest of $8000 in January of 1967. At that time, it was a lot of money - many households lived a full year on that amount. Being a car nut at the early age of 23, I ran, not walked, to the nearest Chevrolet dealer in Lincoln Park, Illinois. On the showroom floor was a 1967 Corvette Stingray Fast-Back Coupe in a light blue with black interior. It had a 427 cubic inch engine with three deuces (3 3-barrel carbs) and side exhausts - 435 horsepower - and a 4-speed Muncie tranny (3-pedals). A salesman greeted me as I was literally drooling over the car with the driver’s door open. He said to sit behind the wheel and get a feel for the car (car is a misnomer for this vehicle - bullet might be more appropriate). I sat in the seat, pushed in the clutch, moved the stick in and out of gears, etc. I never closed the door while I was sitting behind the wheel which was a huge mistake. There were no demos available to drive and they would not move the showroom “bullet” for me to test-drive. Mistake number 2.
The MSRP was the price - no negotiating. He said the only reason the car was available was due to a special allocation. I said, “...WRITE IT UP!”
Two hours later, my new Stingray was ready to be delivered. All the salesman did was show me how to operate the AM/FM radio and how to shift into reverse using the lock-out lever on the manual stick. There were no technologies to demonstrate - just a vehicle with a monster engine and side exhausts.
I opened the door, sat in the driver’s seat, closed the door, and tried to depress the clutch after starting the engine in neutral. I could not depress the clutch easily because the door handle was positioned immediately adjacent to the steering wheel which did not leave enough room for my knee to clutch. I was devastated. But a mechanic came over and removed the handle and replaced it with a large chrome disk. The door release handle was a separate handle - it was the chrome pull handle that was remove. So I always had to lower the side window to pull the door closed.
There was no turning back now. I was the owner of the hottest vehicle in the country - so I lived with the minor inconvenience, but for only 4 months. That’s when I went outside one morning to find an empty parking space where my Corvette was parked the night before. Yep - it had been stolen. After a month, the insurance company sent me a check for almost what I paid for it. End of story and end to buying another Corvette.
Sounds like you lucked out by getting it stolen!
But, maybe I'm wrong.....
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Nonetheless, my CXS Lacrosse is fully loaded with hyper strut suspension, 19" wheels, 4 brand new Michelin tires and mint condition. I could consider letting it go for $25k USD.
Typing on a cellphone is a chore.
I get the claustrophobic feeling with slit-like windows too - I like visibility, but I will admit I like the BMW 6 Gran Coupe, probably more than any other BMW model right now.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive