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nyccarguy

Thanks guys for your input. I made it up to Rutland, VT on Friday night during the Noreaster safely. In case you were all wondering, I took the mostly Parkway, State Road Route (Taconic Pkwy to NY22 to NY20 to US7 to US4) The NY roads (especially the Taconic) were abominable. They just couldn't keep up with the massive storm. Once I got to VT, the roads were clear and black. Very dark though, and lots of 50 to 35 to 50 downhills through speed trap towns. Our Pilot handled the nasty noreaster like a champ. The skiing conditions were phenomenal. I had an amazing weekend with my 11 year old son & 2 other members of his scout troop (and 2 Dads). The drive home yesterday was uneventful. I took the "easier way" VT100 to I91 to CT15 home and made good use of the adaptive cruise control. At a little over 2 1/2 months, we've got over 4,000 miles on the new Pilot.

fintail

It's a Mercedes 220SE. These were made from 1959-65. Mine is a late run car, a 64.

Regarding wheel discs/hubcaps with color coordination, it seems like a lot of makes dabbled with it - I recall seeing it on Edsels, too:

tbirdmarco said:

 Thanks for the picture of your classic car fin tail can’t tell what make and model it is from the picture 

stickguy

Even if I qualified for a tag, I would never park my car in one of those spots to get slaughtered. You have to keep your priorities straight.

imidazol97

Here the spaces are usually wider to allow for vans with devices for side loading. It's a relief to park in one when my wife is with me to protect our car from door dings and drivers who scrape your car with their bumper getting in or out of the adjacent space.

breld

I'll throw out my experience regarding handicap parking.  

My stepson has down syndrome and is autistic.  He is mobile for sure, but his endurance isn't great and he tires quickly.  He had numerous surgeries as a child and has sort of a "gimpy" stride - this after doctors didn't think he would actually walk at all.  And we don't exactly know the extent of his pain when walking, as he is non-verbal and low functioning.

So, we have a handicap parking pass that we use often for him (and only when he is with us), but there are times I feel self-conscious about it, since he's not in a wheelchair and appears to be getting along mostly okay (other than the gimpy stride).  

I know the criticism of abusing handicap parking privileges isn't directed toward this type of situation (at least I don't think so), but I felt compelled to point out that some situations may not be as simple as they appear.  

Having said that, clearly there are a lot of abuses of the system.  

In fact, Disney used to have a very generous "special needs" pass intended for individuals like my stepson and their families, whereby that individual and their family members essentially had an unlimited fast pass.  It was a tremendous help and, frankly, provided an environment  of celebrating my stepson's disabilities in contrast with pretty much every other day when he is often stared at and his special needs can prove challenging.  While it is simply part of our routine, having a 21 year-old son who doesn't speak, is mentally disabled and needs assistance with pretty much everything, from eating to going to the bathroom, is naturally challenging at times.  Getting a little special treatment while on vacation at Disney was a blessing.  

Then (you may remember seeing it on the news), a few years back, an investigation uncovered that a few disgraceful wealthy families were basically "renting" an individual with disabilities to pose as a family member in order to gain the privileges.  So...Disney did away with the program, at least in its previous form.  

28firefighter

breld said:

I'll throw out my experience regarding handicap parking.  

My stepson has down syndrome and is autistic.  He is mobile for sure, but his endurance isn't great and he tires quickly.  He had numerous surgeries as a child and has sort of a "gimpy" stride - this after doctors didn't think he would actually walk at all.  And we don't exactly know the extent of his pain when walking, as he is non-verbal and low functioning.

So, we have a handicap parking pass that we use often for him (and only when he is with us), but there are times I feel self-conscious about it, since he's not in a wheelchair and appears to be getting along mostly okay (other than the gimpy stride).  

I know the criticism of abusing handicap parking privileges isn't directed toward this type of situation (at least I don't think so), but I felt compelled to point out that some situations may not be as simple as they appear.  

Having said that, clearly there are a lot of abuses of the system.  

In fact, Disney used to have a very generous "special needs" pass intended for individuals like my stepson and their families, whereby that individual and their family members essentially had an unlimited fast pass.  It was a tremendous help and, frankly, provided an environment  of celebrating my stepson's disabilities in contrast with pretty much every other day when he is often stared at and his special needs can prove challenging.  While it is simply part of our routine, having a 21 year-old son who doesn't speak, is mentally disabled and needs assistance with pretty much everything, from eating to going to the bathroom, is naturally challenging at times.  Getting a little special treatment while on vacation at Disney was a blessing.  

Then (you may remember seeing it on the news), a few years back, an investigation uncovered that a few disgraceful wealthy families were basically "renting" an individual with disabilities to pose as a family member in order to gain the privileges.  So...Disney did away with the program, at least in its previous form.  

I can relate to this on a number of levels and we had similar experiences with my brother. I also remember the Disney program because we were able to take advantage of it on our family trip to Disney. An absolute disgrace that it had to be taken advantage of and ruined.

suydam

One of my best friends is in a wheelchair and I am humbled by what she has to do every day to achieve the mobility you and I take for granted. Thank G-d for handicap spaces. That said, I sometimes arrive early to a mall so I can make sure that someone doesn’t use the ramp access parking space who doesn’t need one (last time, it was 2 20-somethings in a 2seater convertible). I also know that many disabling handicaps aren’t obvious, especially those endured by some of our veterans. I don’t criticize anyone’s use of that space because you just don’t know. In the instance above, I just politely asked them did they need a space with a ramp, and they moved on. In any system there will be abuses. It’s too important to have disability access to get distracted by those who take advantage.

driver100

I have to give you a lot of credit breid....to have the patience and understanding. Sometimes we take our kids for granted as far as being able to be independent.

I know of a couple and he could barely walk, but he could drive - very slowly though. He had a handicap sticker and would park in a handicap spot at the grocery store, and his wife who was very spry runs in and gets the groceries :@

Florida is a good place to be for handicap people, buildings are usually made to accommodate people. We went to a play with them in Venice at the Venice Theatre. They have lots of places for wheelchairs in the theater, but NO handicap spots on their parking lot. These people had to park 4 long blocks away, and one has a motorized chair, the other is push type. Where is the thinking?

driver100

Thanks for pictures of the color coded discs. I forgot about the GMs having the matching colored wheels showing through....and forgot about the Mavericks and Comets that had colored discs as well. There aren't many but I found a picture of the Cutlass model that had colored standard wheel covers.



Hard to tell, but they are color matching.
(Don't let oldfarmer see this car...he'll want to know how much he wants for it)

Maybe this one;

isellhondas

qbrozen said:

Totally agree carfax is unreliable. I personally don't count on it to tell me the whole story, but I definitely deduct value when it does show an accident. Inspecting the car will tell me if it had an unreported accident.

I bought a car once that had a dirty carfax. One of those vague accident entries. I inquired about it and the dealer said just the bumpers had been resprayed. I inspected it and agreed. Bought the car. Guess what happened when I later traded it? Did that dealer care one iota it was just the bumpers? Of course not. Oh and I also learned that day that they also apparently care when a car has had more than 2 owners. Makes it seem like a problematic car. Lesson learned.

I would have handled that dealer differently. He was looking for a reason to steal your trade.

" Hey, if you are that concerned about the Car Fax or the number of owners it has had I understand. I'll have
another less fussy dealer take a look at it".

I am also not a "One Owner" freak as some are. To me, it is a ***slight*** benefit especially on an older car. I have seen cars that had three owners that were in better shape than some mistreated one owner cars!

dino001

isellhondas said:

I am also not a "One Owner" freak as some are. To me, it is a ***slight*** benefit especially on an older car. I have seen cars that had three owners that were in better shape than some mistreated one owner cars!

Every rule of thumb depends on the thumb

jmonroe

driver100 said:

Thanks for pictures of the color coded discs. I forgot about the GMs having the matching colored wheels showing through....and forgot about the Mavericks and Comets that had colored discs as well. There aren't many but I found a picture of the Cutlass model that had colored standard wheel covers.



Hard to tell, but they are color matching.
(Don't let oldfarmer see this car...he'll want to know how much he wants for it)

Maybe this one;

@oldfarmer50 might want that top one and he can have it but I know which one I'd want in that bottom pic.

jmonroe

qbrozen

isellhondas said:

Totally agree carfax is unreliable. I personally don't count on it to tell me the whole story, but I definitely deduct value when it does show an accident. Inspecting the car will tell me if it had an unreported accident.

I bought a car once that had a dirty carfax. One of those vague accident entries. I inquired about it and the dealer said just the bumpers had been resprayed. I inspected it and agreed. Bought the car. Guess what happened when I later traded it? Did that dealer care one iota it was just the bumpers? Of course not. Oh and I also learned that day that they also apparently care when a car has had more than 2 owners. Makes it seem like a problematic car. Lesson learned.

I would have handled that dealer differently. He was looking for a reason to steal your trade. " Hey, if you are that concerned about the Car Fax or the number of owners it has had I understand. I'll have another less fussy dealer take a look at it". I am also not a "One Owner" freak as some are. To me, it is a ***slight*** benefit especially on an older car. I have seen cars that had three owners that were in better shape than some mistreated one owner cars!

I almost had to kill the deal, but we came to terms in the end. It cost me $500 more than I intended, but it was a used car I was buying and not one that was commonplace at the time (4-door GTI with manual trans and low miles).

abacomike

I have a handicap placard that was issued to me after I had the cancer surgery.  It was renewed by my doctor last year.  I’ve used it, on occasion, when my left knee swells and I can’t walk very far.  Doctor said it really needs to be repaired (it’s a knee replacement I had 14 years ago).  I just can’t handle another surgery so, at times, it prevents me from walking very far.

Over the past 12 months, I think I’ve used it 4 or 5 times for grocery shopping.  Otherwise, I park in a regular spot.

About 8 months ago, a policeman asked to see my state issued registration for the placard.  He said at that time 8 out of 10 driver’s displaying a handicap placard have no back-up registration and they are issued a $500 fine.  He added that the placards are knock-offs and counterfeit.  Pathetic!!!

oldfarmer50

isellhondas said:

qbrozen said:

isellhondas said:

laurasdada said:

qbrozen said:

laurasdada said:

jmonroe said:

laurasdada said:

Life is good; my '13 XF is a virgin no more.

Whilst lunching with the GF and her mother, some fine upstanding young man/woman defiled the Jags near pristine exterior. Might have been two incidents, a very strange dent in the driver side rear door, possibly a door slam or shopping cart. Paint isn't cracked, but a raised "scar" in the steel in the middle of the concave area of dent. More noticeable, and maybe more egregious, the lovely mesh grill now has a mangled mesh hole in the drivers side portion. As well as cracked frame. Either someone intentionally kicked it in, a trailer hitch, or very corner of a bumper hit? No paint left in either damage area. Needless to say, no note left, no cameras in the parking lot.

I'll drop by the local Jag dealer, see how much for a new grille. May just live with it. As Jags are known to hold their value so strongly, I'm afraid these cosmetic imperfections my really hurt at trade/sale time!

I'm know how that feels. Went through it when a jacked-up pickup truck took out the right front fender of Mrs. j's Subie 2 years ago in a kids hockey arena parking lot.

If your insurance is like mine, it will cost you your deductible (mine is $500) but it will be a not-at-fault claim and your rates will not go up.

Ok, this is the second parking lot thing for the guys in here. Who wants to make it 3 and finish the bad luck for us guys.

Let us know how the claim goes.

jmonroe

Thanks, I did stop by the local police to register the event. I'll check with my insurance, but I have a $1k deductible, so I may live with it... And, die a little each day that I see the missing teeth and scarred flank!< /div>

Uhoh. I wouldn't have done that. It may show up on carfax now. I'd much rather eat the cost and avoid the extra depreciation.

Shoulda been lunching with you! Didn't really think about that, a bit distraught (and I know it's not a huge deal. Coulda been much worse, taken out a headlight or worse...). It's a 4+ year old Jag, depreciation is its middle name! Still, 50 months unscathed, I guess it was due.

I for one, don't care what shows up on Car Fax. A lot of buyers (most) won't even look at Car Fax and if you have photos available you can put their minds at ease that the damage was minimal.

A Dent Wizard ***might*** be able to work that dent out...maybe not because it looks kinked at the bottom.

Who ever did that damage KNOWS that they did it! JERKS!

Really? You don't care? Huh. That's interesting. 

Even if buyers don't care, dealers sure as hell do and will take it out of your trade, so it matters if you trade rather than sell. As for my few private sales, all of them wanted the carfax.

Well, I guess that was poorly worded. Actually I DO care but not as much as some people do. Some buyers care obviously and that is why I suggested taking before and after photos of the damage. It was so minor that most potential buyers would say "Oh, that wasn't a big deal". The same photos can be shown to a dealer and, yes, some stores would act like the car's value was diminished by half. Most cars that are more than a couple of years old have had "some" body work or touch up done. some will show up on a Car Fax and some won't. I just think that some people make too big a deal out of Car Faxes. Some MAJOR events somehow escape a Car Fax label so go figure?

I used to live with this every day!

imidazol97 said:

Handicapped parking permits are abused by family members and others who may have stolen them or gotten them with faux doctor's notes--at least in Ohio.

The police hand out tickets in our fair city for cars not displaying them, but there are no checks on whether those who parked the car should have the permit they hang on their mirror.

I recall one overdressed 50's something lady who parked her car at Walmart in a handicapped, hopped out handily, and proceeded to walk rapidly toward the Walmart door. She gave me a dirty look because I was watching her, attempting to note any sign of disability. She was wearing tall high heels and had no trouble. How did she get the mirror hanger?

Many other abusers who appear to have ones that aren't legitimate are typically overweight and lethargic until they see something inside the store they like and then their energy increases ten fold. They could use a good walk across the parking lot by Dr. Azol's disagnosis. In some cases I suspect the person with the need for the handicap card lets the young person keep it because they drive them occasionally to and fro shopping and/or doctor visits. Or the original holder has passed away or moved into a nursing home and the abuser retains the handicap parking permit.

My cure is more big government where State of Ohio requires proof of eligibility every two years. They seem to be passed out good for 5 or more years. And change the color of them every two years so the old ones can't be modified.

https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/crime--law/misuse-handicapped-placards-rampant-police-say/64M3Q1hUFyGGeLMhwTZGNI/

My wife who has had two strokes and has trouble walking resisted getting a placard for a long time. Finally I convinced her to ask her doctor for one. The doc gave her a temp tag only good for 6 months which expires the end of this month. If anyone ever needed special parking it's my wife. How these other folks get 5 year placards is beyond me.

On planes I can see service animals like seeing eye dogs but what of the rights of other passengers who might be allergic or anxious around animals? If I'm phobic around dogs should I be forced to have a panic attack or get bitten to accommodate someone else?

Comfort animals in my opinion are a scam. Imagine, some woman tried to bring a peacock on a plane. I'm sure some cases are legit but there have to be alternatives to inconveniencing an entire plane.

Michaell

dino001 said:

isellhondas said:

I am also not a "One Owner" freak as some are. To me, it is a ***slight*** benefit especially on an older car. I have seen cars that had three owners that were in better shape than some mistreated one owner cars!

Every rule of thumb depends on the thumb

Do you know the origin behind the saying "Rule of Thumb"?

driver100

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Thanks for pictures of the color coded discs. I forgot about the GMs having the matching colored wheels showing through....and forgot about the Mavericks and Comets that had colored discs as well. There aren't many but I found a picture of the Cutlass model that had colored standard wheel covers.



Hard to tell, but they are color matching.
(Don't let oldfarmer see this car...he'll want to know how much he wants for it)

Maybe this one;

@oldfarmer50 might want that top one and he can have it but I know which one I'd want in that bottom pic.

jmonroe

I think we agree for the 3rd time in 3 days! We are becoming great buds!

dino001

Michaell said:

dino001 said:

isellhondas said:

I am also not a "One Owner" freak as some are. To me, it is a ***slight*** benefit especially on an older car. I have seen cars that had three owners that were in better shape than some mistreated one owner cars!

Every rule of thumb depends on the thumb

Do you know the origin behind the saying "Rule of Thumb"?

I believe it's about using thumb as a length measurement device (ruler). Since every thumb is different, the results will be approximate and may vary.

Michaell

dino001 said:

Michaell said:

dino001 said:

isellhondas said:

I am also not a "One Owner" freak as some are. To me, it is a ***slight*** benefit especially on an older car. I have seen cars that had three owners that were in better shape than some mistreated one owner cars!

Every rule of thumb depends on the thumb

Do you know the origin behind the saying "Rule of Thumb"?

I believe it's about using thumb as a length measurement device (ruler).

Not exactly. It was an English term used to denote the maximum width the stick could be with which you beat your wife.

driver100

Michaell said:

dino001 said:

isellhondas said:

I am also not a "One Owner" freak as some are. To me, it is a ***slight*** benefit especially on an older car. I have seen cars that had three owners that were in better shape than some mistreated one owner cars!

Every rule of thumb depends on the thumb

Do you know the origin behind the saying "Rule of Thumb"?

No, but I got a feeling I am going to find out!

Just joking....now I need to know or I won't sleep tonight.

dino001

Michaell said:

dino001 said:

Michaell said:

dino001 said:

isellhondas said:

I am also not a "One Owner" freak as some are. To me, it is a ***slight*** benefit especially on an older car. I have seen cars that had three owners that were in better shape than some mistreated one owner cars!

Every rule of thumb depends on the thumb

Do you know the origin behind the saying "Rule of Thumb"?

I believe it's about using thumb as a length measurement device (ruler).

Not exactly. It was an English term used to denote the maximum width the stick could be with which you beat your wife.

Wikipedia claims it's folk etymology (essentially fake news), in 1970s it became an expression for domestic violence.

From Wikipedia:

"By the late 19th century, most American states had outlawed wife beating; some had severe penalties such as forty lashes or imprisonment for offenders. There was a common belief in parts of the United States that a man was permitted to beat his wife with a stick no wider than his thumb; however, this belief was not connected with the phrase rule of thumb until the 1970"

driver100

"The idea that rule of thumb is derived from an early form of spousal abuse is in error." Instead, the phrase probably came from carpenters who used their thumbs as a quick, handy measuring tool. From WordOrigins, "The phrase is almost certainly an allusion to the fact that the first joint an adult thumb measures roughly one inch, literally a rule (or ruler) of thumb."

tbirdmarco

 Agree with you GG when it comes to handicapped spots and the service animals I have a handicap sticker that expired and I want to renew it I rather walk tell my family I know I’m entitled to it but I got some difference in eventually will get a service animal for my self down the road would be good for going to crowded places like the city things like that 

driver100

Found a really good one....the whole center part is color matched to the car;

jmonroe

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Thanks for pictures of the color coded discs. I forgot about the GMs having the matching colored wheels showing through....and forgot about the Mavericks and Comets that had colored discs as well. There aren't many but I found a picture of the Cutlass model that had colored standard wheel covers.



Hard to tell, but they are color matching.
(Don't let oldfarmer see this car...he'll want to know how much he wants for it)

Maybe this one;

@oldfarmer50 might want that top one and he can have it but I know which one I'd want in that bottom pic.

jmonroe

I think we agree for the 3rd time in 3 days! We are becoming great buds!

I can't take this already.

@Michaell and or @Mr_Shiftright can you get one of us out of here? Makes no difference to me. :@

jmonroe

jmonroe

All this talk about handicap parking spaces. I'll bet you guys aren't thinking this all the way through. A little story about this. Don't worry it ain't all that long at least not for me anyhow.

As I have said before we moved to SC in 1992 (in March no less) for about 5 years and there were tons of handicap spaces and I mean tons of handicap spaces in the smallish town I was about to build a house in. Really a nice quaint Southern town. A retirement place of sorts, a good bit of old and new money, many new developments, more golf courses both private and public than I could count, horse people, stuff like that. In fact, I was considering an equestrian lot at one point, then I realized I didn't have one of those things so we built a house in a golf community even though I'm not a golfer. Had to live somewhere, right?

Anyway, about a month after I was there a fellow worker who was born and raised in that town asked me how things were going and in general how I liked the place. I said, "fine, I like the weather, the quality of the new home construction, etc. etc." Then I said, "man, you guys sure do have a LOT of handicap parking spaces down here". He smiled and said, "yeah, I know what you mean but we count mental down here".

If a Yankee like me from the Burgh had said something like that about an old Southern town they would have hitched me up to a few of those Polo ponies and dragged me out of town while golfers practiced their drive swings on me.

I'll bet you guys never thought about that, huh?

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Thanks for pictures of the color coded discs. I forgot about the GMs having the matching colored wheels showing through....and forgot about the Mavericks and Comets that had colored discs as well. There aren't many but I found a picture of the Cutlass model that had colored standard wheel covers.



Hard to tell, but they are color matching.
(Don't let oldfarmer see this car...he'll want to know how much he wants for it)

Maybe this one;

@oldfarmer50 might want that top one and he can have it but I know which one I'd want in that bottom pic.

jmonroe

Mr. Monroe, you may have them both.

houdini1

cdnpinhead said:

jmonroe said:

I am not going to back out of this.

Yeah, that was a long one, but well worth the time it took to read.

JM, back in 1980, right after we moved to KC. I was parked beside another car, nose in. A young woman got in the other car, started backing out, turned too sharp and caved in my drivers side rear quarter pane. She pulled forward a little and slowly backed up again. I got out to talk to her, but she smiled at me and drove off. I was dumbfounded but I did get her license #. I gave her licence #, by phone to the local police. It happened in Kansas and she had Missouri plates. Since I lived in Kansas, they told me that essentially I was out of luck. Since I was driving a state of the art 1979 Ford Fairmont company car, the worst car I have ever driven, I just let it go. That was 38 years ago and I am still ticked .

driver100

You guys want to throw Gigi under the bus? She is a frequent flyer, been on about 8 plane trips. She only barks about once every 3 years, and never on a plane...only if I chase her. She is non-allergenic. She will be 14 years old next month. She has never come close to biting anyone and if she did bite you wouldn't feel it. She is a lot better than a lot of kids who cry, whine, throw tantrums and kick the seat in front. They only allow about 4 pets on a flight and if a dog is a problem they will try to move you. She has rights too you know!

ab348

If I took Rusty the cat on a flight, he would insist on his own seat so I'd have to get him a ticket.

stickguy

nyccarguy said:

Thanks guys for your input. I made it up to Rutland, VT on Friday night during the Noreaster safely. In case you were all wondering, I took the mostly Parkway, State Road Route (Taconic Pkwy to NY22 to NY20 to US7 to US4) The NY roads (especially the Taconic) were abominable. They just couldn't keep up with the massive storm. Once I got to VT, the roads were clear and black. Very dark though, and lots of 50 to 35 to 50 downhills through speed trap towns. Our Pilot handled the nasty noreaster like a champ. The skiing conditions were phenomenal. I had an amazing weekend with my 11 year old son & 2 other members of his scout troop (and 2 Dads). The drive home yesterday was uneventful. I took the "easier way" VT100 to I91 to CT15 home and made good use of the adaptive cruise control. At a little over 2 1/2 months, we've got over 4,000 miles on the new Pilot.

Good thing you bought it. Took me about 4.5 months, but finally broke 2,000 miles on my car today!

driver100

Yeh, dogs are just happy if they can go with.....cats, want their own seat.....probably insist on First Class.

cdnpinhead

Michaell said:

Do you know the origin behind the saying "Rule of Thumb"?

You bet. It falls right into that "pound me too" thing that's so popular these days. To discuss it further would render me a trigger -- lord forfend. A few would need to flee for safe spaces.

graphicguy

Well...didn’t intend to stir a hornet’s nest TBMARCO, Mike, Breld, Driver, etc. I think we all know when any rule is being abused, whether it’s service animals or handicapped parking. The abusers are obvious to all of us.

I’m throwing the vast majority of “scooter people” into the abuser list by the way. Again, I’ve seen them spend more energy and time getting them in and out of their vehicles than they would have endured by walking.

Carry on while I go back into my dark, dank dungeon!!!!!

Mr_Shiftright

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Thanks for pictures of the color coded discs. I forgot about the GMs having the matching colored wheels showing through....and forgot about the Mavericks and Comets that had colored discs as well. There aren't many but I found a picture of the Cutlass model that had colored standard wheel covers.



Hard to tell, but they are color matching.
(Don't let oldfarmer see this car...he'll want to know how much he wants for it)

Maybe this one;

@oldfarmer50 might want that top one and he can have it but I know which one I'd want in that bottom pic.

jmonroe

I think we agree for the 3rd time in 3 days! We are becoming great buds!

I can't take this already.

@Michaell and or @Mr_Shiftright can you get one of us out of here? Makes no difference to me. :@

jmonroe

We only expel members through a computer-generated program that does it randomly. That way it's completely fair.

houdini1

ab348 said:

If I took Rusty the cat on a flight, he would insist on his own seat so I'd have to get him a ticket.

Gigi reminds me of our Daisy, and Rusty is one fine looking cat.

suydam

graphicguy said:

Well...didn’t intend to stir a hornet’s nest TBMARCO, Mike, Breld, Driver, etc. I think we all know when any rule is being abused, whether it’s service animals or handicapped parking. The abusers are obvious to all of us.

I’m throwing the vast majority of “scooter people” into the abuser list by the way. Again, I’ve seen them spend more energy and time getting them in and out of their vehicles than they would have endured by walking.

Carry on while I go back into my dark, dank dungeon!!!!!

My wheelchair friend uses a scooter too and often takes it instead of the chair. Just sayin.

Michaell

Thanks to all for setting me straight on the 'rule of thumb' phrase.

thebean

ab348 said:

If I took Rusty the cat on a flight, he would insist on his own seat so I'd have to get him a ticket.

ab, that looks like a cat with a real attitude. I love it. Thanks for showing Rusty.

Mr_Shiftright

Don't mess with my backyard chickadee:

isellhondas

dino001 said:

isellhondas said:

I am also not a "One Owner" freak as some are. To me, it is a ***slight*** benefit especially on an older car. I have seen cars that had three owners that were in better shape than some mistreated one owner cars!

Every rule of thumb depends on the thumb

Yes, but....On the other hand, you have different fingers!

driver100

graphicguy said:

Well...didn’t intend to stir a hornet’s nest TBMARCO, Mike, Breld, Driver, etc. I think we all know when any rule is being abused, whether it’s service animals or handicapped parking. The abusers are obvious to all of us.

I’m throwing the vast majority of “scooter people” into the abuser list by the way. Again, I’ve seen them spend more energy and time getting them in and out of their vehicles than they would have endured by walking.
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Actually, I agree with you GG....except, there are some exceptions, if the rules are followed and no one is affected.

driver100

Mr_Shiftright said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Thanks for pictures of the color coded discs. I forgot about the GMs having the matching colored wheels showing through....and forgot about the Mavericks and Comets that had colored discs as well. There aren't many but I found a picture of the Cutlass model that had colored standard wheel covers.



Hard to tell, but they are color matching.
(Don't let oldfarmer see this car...he'll want to know how much he wants for it)

Maybe this one;

@oldfarmer50 might want that top one and he can have it but I know which one I'd want in that bottom pic.

jmonroe

I think we agree for the 3rd time in 3 days! We are becoming great buds!

I can't take this already.

@Michaell and or @Mr_Shiftright can you get one of us out of here? Makes no difference to me. :@

jmonroe

We only expel members through a computer-generated program that does it randomly. That way it's completely fair.

The computers findings are only as good as the information fed to it....who is in charge of that?

driver100

houdini1 said:

ab348 said:

If I took Rusty the cat on a flight, he would insist on his own seat so I'd have to get him a ticket.

Gigi reminds me of our Daisy, and Rusty is one fine looking cat.

Rusty is a fine looking cat.....and looks like he has real pompous attitude.
I never said pets looked like their masters btw, can't nail me for that.

ab348

Rusty isn't pompous as much as aloof. He showed up at my door 10 years ago after being abandoned - I had seen him around the property a year or two earlier and he obviously belonged to someone at that time. But in late fall of 2007 he had obviously become homeless so I invited him to stay. I think he suffered some mental trauma somewhere along the way as he is still very skittish and afraid of strangers but he gets along fine with me. He's actually a great cat.

oldfarmer50

cdnpinhead said:

Michaell said:

Do you know the origin behind the saying "Rule of Thumb"?

You bet. It falls right into that "pound me too" thing that's so popular these days. To discuss it further would render me a trigger -- lord forfend. Many would flee for the safe spaces.

Actually I think it had to do with the distance between the joint and end of thumb on the king being considered an inch or some such thing.

Also regarding the wife beating myth:


The false etymology persists despite the Oxford English Dictionary definition: "A method or procedure derived entirely from practice or experience, without any basis in scientific knowledge; a roughly practical method." The OED dates the phrase's first reference to 1692.

In the Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins, "rule of thumb" is additionally defined as a method by which brewers once tested the temperature of a batch of beer: They dipped a thumb in the brew.

oldfarmer50

Mr_Shiftright said:

Don't mess with my backyard chickadee:

Those darn things are so tame that you can get them to eat out of your hand but if you do they won't leave you alone.

That's a nice picture BTW, did you use a hand camera or something with a motion sensor?

jmonroe

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Thanks for pictures of the color coded discs. I forgot about the GMs having the matching colored wheels showing through....and forgot about the Mavericks and Comets that had colored discs as well. There aren't many but I found a picture of the Cutlass model that had colored standard wheel covers.



Hard to tell, but they are color matching.
(Don't let oldfarmer see this car...he'll want to know how much he wants for it)

Maybe this one;

@oldfarmer50 might want that top one and he can have it but I know which one I'd want in that bottom pic.

jmonroe

I think we agree for the 3rd time in 3 days! We are becoming great buds!

I can't take this already.

@Michaell and or @Mr_Shiftright can you get one of us out of here? Makes no difference to me. :@

jmonroe

We only expel members through a computer-generated program that does it randomly. That way it's completely fair.

The computers findings are only as good as the information fed to it....who is in charge of that?

ME. :@

jmonroe

driver100

I got these Modified Zen Teachings Today....just a few:


* Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of me, for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me for the path is narrow. In fact, just get lost and leave me alone.

* Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.

* Never test the depth of the water with both feet.

* If you think nobody cares whether you're alive or dead, try missing a couple of mortgage payments.

* Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

* If you lend someone $20 and never see that person again, it was probably well worth it.

* If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.

* Some days you are the dog, some days you are the tree.

* Don't worry; it only seems kinky the first time

* Good judgment comes from bad experience ... and most of that comes from bad judgment.

* A closed mouth gathers no foot.

* There are two excellent theories for arguing with women. Neither one works.

driver100

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

Thanks for pictures of the color coded discs. I forgot about the GMs having the matching colored wheels showing through....and forgot about the Mavericks and Comets that had colored discs as well. There aren't many but I found a picture of the Cutlass model that had colored standard wheel covers.



Hard to tell, but they are color matching.
(Don't let oldfarmer see this car...he'll want to know how much he wants for it)

Maybe this one;

@oldfarmer50 might want that top one and he can have it but I know which one I'd want in that bottom pic.

jmonroe

I think we agree for the 3rd time in 3 days! We are becoming great buds!

I can't take this already.

@Michaell and or @Mr_Shiftright can you get one of us out of here? Makes no difference to me. :@

jmonroe

We only expel members through a computer-generated program that does it randomly. That way it's completely fair.

The computers findings are only as good as the information fed to it....who is in charge of that?

ME. :@

jmonroe

Oh geeze....I am s-----d