Prelude drank 93 octane at a rate of a little over 22 mpg Infiniti guzzled 93 octane at a rate of just under 17.8 mpg
My 430i GC sips in comparison - I get 30-31 mpg consistently on my daily commute drive (mostly 70/30 highway/city, but good portion of the highway stop and go). Previous 328 wagon was getting only around 24 mpg in same conditions. With this kind of mileage, who needs hybrids? Unless gas goes to 7 bucks, then maybe.
Gas buddy is wonderful for finding the current nearby bargain station.
Gasbuddy says what I knew all along: my Costco has the lowest price in the large area ($3.05 for PUG), lower even than Sam's Club ($3.11). All stations around are 20-60 cents higher, so it adds to 2.5-5 bucks per tank. The savings become real after a year.
Just checked PUL gasoline prices in a 4 mile radius. Costco is st $3.15 and Marathon is at $3.17. The rest are over $3.35 a gallon. This is the most I’ve paid for gas in over 3 years. Up 80 cents a gallon in the last 7 months.
RUG is getting near $3 but I was shocked to see one station at $3.59 for PUG.
I don't use CC for gas out of fear of skimmers and tracking by the NSA but I did go in for one of those reward deals where by direct depositing my pension check in a new bank I get $400.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
in the roughly 1,200 miles we put on the RDX over the last week, per the TC, got about 28 MPG overall. On a mix of premium, mid grade, and RUG, depending on where/when/how many gallons it needed at the time. And the price.
one station was crazy. mid grade was $.60 more than RUG, then PUG was another $.30 beyond that. almost a buck a gallon is nuts for the difference.
Took the Bluetec on a ~350-400 mile drive last Saturday, averaged around 42.5 mpg per the car - even if a little optimistic, not bad for a 4000+ lb AWD car, and that wasn't all free highway cruising. Gas prices? Diesel is as cheap as regular here.
Fintail gets around 15 in town, 20 on the highway, but as I might drive it twice a month, that's fine.
Took the Bluetec on a ~350-400 mile drive last Saturday, averaged around 42.5 mpg per the car - even if a little optimistic, not bad for a 4000+ lb AWD car, and that wasn't all free highway cruising. Gas prices? Diesel is as cheap as regular here.
Fintail gets around 15 in town, 20 on the highway, but as I might drive it twice a month, that's fine.
I know a few of you (@Michaell, @stickguy, @breld) Are happy with your/your kids’ Jettas. I recently started talking to a friend from college who lives in CO. He’s a car guy with a diverse stable. An older Expedition he uses for towing/HD runs, & whenever he needs something with 8 seatbelts. He bought a 911 brand new back in ‘06 that currently has 16K miles on it. He’s got a 2016 A6 2.0T Sport Line, & a 2017 Jetta SE with a stick.
We have been chatting back and forth about cars and life. He bought the Jetta last year at a very heavy discount after renting on on vacation and really liking it. He paid about $15K for it. Says it has all the qualities you’d expect from a German car, makes a great daily driver, & averages 40 mpg.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
NYC He bought the Jetta last year at a very heavy discount after renting on on vacation and really liking it. He paid about $15K for it. Says it has all the qualities you’d expect from a German car, makes a great daily driver, & averages 40 mpg.
Read about the new 2019....as good as the 2018s are, the new one is much better.
Are we talking rising gas prices:
Prelude drank 93 octane at a rate of a little over 22 mpg
Infiniti guzzled 93 octane at a rate of just under 17.8 mpg
My Chrysler averages about 21.5 MPG in my daily commuting, the wife's Sonata is getting a little more than 28 in suburban traffic, and the Honda has been getting 63 on my daily commute.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
My former assistant at work bought a Jetta SEL or whatever they called their top-end model just before I retired in '14 and I got to ride in it a few times with her. It was really nice inside (if you like black interiors) and was very well-equipped. I didn't understand some of the criticism I had read of it in reviews. I think a big part of that is simply that many auto reviewers these days are fairly young and grew up as part of the Civic/Asian car era. So there is an inherent bias in favor of the Japanese car feel. German cars feel very different and it has always struck me as a polarizing sort of thing in that you either like one or the other but not both.
Way to go RB! I am curious why they hold an election in May if you don't take office until January though...
It was a primary race between two Republicans- there's no Democratic challenger in the fall.
So technically there can be a independent who might take it... Unlikely, though, from what you're saying.
The independent would had to have filed at the same time I did.
OK, I thought that general election official filing date is after party primaries. Parties decide who they'd endorse (in primary process), then they file candidacies and go into general election. For that to happen you need to have time for filing papers after primary elections . Am I having it wrong?
Doing hand calculations, I’m getting about 21 MPG ALL CITY and hit 31 MPG ALL HIGHWAY on the TLX. But, the cast majority of my driving is about 75% city and 25% highway. Over the course of 10K miles (my darling just turned 1 year old), I’m averaging around 22 MPG.
I’m good with that, particularly given how hilly SW OHIO is and how I’m certainly not gentle with the right pedal.
My former assistant at work bought a Jetta SEL or whatever they called their top-end model just before I retired in '14 and I got to ride in it a few times with her. It was really nice inside (if you like black interiors) and was very well-equipped. I didn't understand some of the criticism I had read of it in reviews. I think a big part of that is simply that many auto reviewers these days are fairly young and grew up as part of the Civic/Asian car era. So there is an inherent bias in favor of the Japanese car feel. German cars feel very different and it has always struck me as a polarizing sort of thing in that you either like one or the other but not both.
I like appreciate both, for different reasons. I think Japanese have best ergonomics and their stated design objectives are executed to perfection. My biggest beef with their vehicles were narrow option choices in the brochures and even narrower on the lot. You go to Toyota's or Honda's dealer websites and you can have literally pages of vehicles at the exact same price in the exact same color (usually some variation of grey, silver, black or white) and if you look for just something else (that according to the brochure should be available), it's nowhere to be found in 500 mile radius. Also, their attitude to safety features is always "on-time" delivery, never lead. What I mean by that some other manufacturers may try to add something (ABS, side impact airbags, anti-slip stability systems, etc.) as standard ahead of demand, Honda or Toyota would never do that - they'd only add it as standard once it's expected to be standard. Germans often try to be leaders in their solutions. This will often end up in a misfire, e.g. first version of the iDrive on BMW, but they are also patient, which results in problems being worked out, not just abandoned after an early miscue. Said iDrive is today one of the best working media interactive tool and has been copied by many others to some variation. BMW knew there were too many buttons, so they looked into something different. Took them a while to make it work, but they stayed the course even after heavy criticism. Benz needed almost 10 more years to finally retire its 50 separate buttons cockpit that required PhD in science to operate. Germans also have some strange habits of zigging, when others zag. The manual shift feature in my transmission has plus/minus exactly opposite than essentially everybody else. Benz is even worse by having them to the side. It's almost like they want to be different for the difference sake. Perhaps to build that "stickiness", as when you dump their brand, you have to form all new habits. This can irritate anybody getting to their vehicle first time to no end.
Now that Jetta is home, I cleaned in and out. Goes back 7/3, and miles currently at 28,700. So turns out the lease was a good use of money. Great MPG, and only money out of pocket extra was a set of wiper blades. All annual services were covered.
So I am satisfied with the value for my $226/month!
Sent princess a link to a listing for an R line. She liked that one!
Chatted with Delaware DMV. Looks like if she needs to buy before moving it will be doable. Not ideal, but maybe $500 extra. Will still try to hold off though.
My former assistant at work bought a Jetta SEL or whatever they called their top-end model just before I retired in '14 and I got to ride in it a few times with her. It was really nice inside (if you like black interiors) and was very well-equipped. I didn't understand some of the criticism I had read of it in reviews. I think a big part of that is simply that many auto reviewers these days are fairly young and grew up as part of the Civic/Asian car era. So there is an inherent bias in favor of the Japanese car feel. German cars feel very different and it has always struck me as a polarizing sort of thing in that you either like one or the other but not both.
I like appreciate both, for different reasons. I think Japanese have best ergonomics and their stated design objectives are executed to perfection. My biggest beef with their vehicles were narrow option choices in the brochures and even narrower on the lot. You go to Toyota's or Honda's dealer websites and you can have literally pages of vehicles at the exact same price in the exact same color (usually some variation of grey, silver, black or white) and if you look for just something else (that according to the brochure should be available), it's nowhere to be found in 500 mile radius. Also, their attitude to safety features is always "on-time" delivery, never lead. What I mean by that some other manufacturers may try to add something (ABS, side impact airbags, anti-slip stability systems, etc.) as standard ahead of demand, Honda or Toyota would never do that - they'd only add it as standard once it's expected to be standard.
Germans often try to be leaders in their solutions. This will often end up in a misfire, e.g. first version of the iDrive on BMW, but they are also patient, which results in problems being worked out, not just abandoned after an early miscue. Said iDrive is today one of the best working media interactive tool and has been copied by many others to some variation. BMW knew there were too many buttons, so they looked into something different. Took them a while to make it work, but they stayed the course even after heavy criticism. Benz needed almost 10 more years to finally retire its 50 separate buttons cockpit that required PhD in science to operate. Germans also have some strange habits of zigging, when others zag. The manual shift feature in my transmission has plus/minus exactly opposite than essentially everybody else. Benz is even worse by having them to the side. It's almost like they want to be different for the difference sake. Perhaps to build that "stickiness", as when you dump their brand, you have to form all new habits. This can irritate anybody getting to their vehicle first time to no end.
What I have noticed most about the 2018 MB S450 is that not only are there lots of bottons on the console, there are just as many on the steering wheel - 90% of which are merely redundancies. I can operate the main info screen and icons using one of three separate functions - a touch sensitive button on the right side of the steering wheel, a touch sensitive mouse on the console, or a wheel mouse just below and underneath that. There is a touch sensitive button on the left side of the steering wheel that operates the driver’s function screen display which is between the speedometer and tachometer. Most of those displays are settings and visuals that complement the main center dash screen.
So, the reason for the large numbers of buttons appears to be redundancy as well as driver convenience for changing settings while driving using the steering wheel buttons.
We will take a road trip in a couple of weeks. That should put about 6,000 miles on the Forester... and might actually give it some reasonable miles before changing the oil on the 7/4 weekend!
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
We will take a road trip in a couple of weeks. That should put about 6,000 miles on the Forester... and might actually give it some reasonable miles before changing the oil on the 7/4 weekend!
6K miles. Where are you going man? I never did a road trip like that. Compared to what you plan to do, I just ran the car long enough to cook out all the moisture from the operating fluids.
Good timing though, just in time for the gasoline price spikes. Remind me not to ask you when I should buy some stocks.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Wow, 6K miles is a haul. We just got back from the Great Lakes excursion and covered 3,300 miles. Of course, that's just starting from Texas. Starting from Alaska is quite a different beast.
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jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Prelude drank 93 octane at a rate of a little over 22 mpg
Infiniti guzzled 93 octane at a rate of just under 17.8 mpg
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
2018 430i Gran Coupe
2018 430i Gran Coupe
2018 430i Gran Coupe
It will be taken out of context and used against me.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
I don't use CC for gas out of fear of skimmers and tracking by the NSA but I did go in for one of those reward deals where by direct depositing my pension check in a new bank I get $400.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
one station was crazy. mid grade was $.60 more than RUG, then PUG was another $.30 beyond that. almost a buck a gallon is nuts for the difference.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Fintail gets around 15 in town, 20 on the highway, but as I might drive it twice a month, that's fine.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
We have been chatting back and forth about cars and life. He bought the Jetta last year at a very heavy discount after renting on on vacation and really liking it. He paid about $15K for it. Says it has all the qualities you’d expect from a German car, makes a great daily driver, & averages 40 mpg.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Computer might be like 5% optimistic, but the numbers are still fine.
Talked to a dealer in DE today since she is moving there. They already have large discounts listed online on the 2019s. Nice to see!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Read about the new 2019....as good as the 2018s are, the new one is much better.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
2018 430i Gran Coupe
I’m good with that, particularly given how hilly SW OHIO is and how I’m certainly not gentle with the right pedal.
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Germans often try to be leaders in their solutions. This will often end up in a misfire, e.g. first version of the iDrive on BMW, but they are also patient, which results in problems being worked out, not just abandoned after an early miscue. Said iDrive is today one of the best working media interactive tool and has been copied by many others to some variation. BMW knew there were too many buttons, so they looked into something different. Took them a while to make it work, but they stayed the course even after heavy criticism. Benz needed almost 10 more years to finally retire its 50 separate buttons cockpit that required PhD in science to operate. Germans also have some strange habits of zigging, when others zag. The manual shift feature in my transmission has plus/minus exactly opposite than essentially everybody else. Benz is even worse by having them to the side. It's almost like they want to be different for the difference sake. Perhaps to build that "stickiness", as when you dump their brand, you have to form all new habits. This can irritate anybody getting to their vehicle first time to no end.
2018 430i Gran Coupe
So I am satisfied with the value for my $226/month!
Sent princess a link to a listing for an R line. She liked that one!
Chatted with Delaware DMV. Looks like if she needs to buy before moving it will be doable. Not ideal, but maybe $500 extra. Will still try to hold off though.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
So, the reason for the large numbers of buttons appears to be redundancy as well as driver convenience for changing settings while driving using the steering wheel buttons.
A bit over the top if you ask me!
2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger
For such a bare bones car, I'm gonna miss it.
Subaru goes in for an oil change tonight - 25,000 miles and counting after 3+ years.
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Hope you have a safe and pleasant journey.
Good timing though, just in time for the gasoline price spikes. Remind me not to ask you when I should buy some stocks.
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