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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,974
    Just toured a private Catholic school for my son entering Kindergarten in Sept.  My wife and I are so undecided whether to send him to public or go the private route.  

    We both did Catholic school up until about 5th grade and have no bad memories but such a tough decision.  Input appreciated 

    thx 
    Went to a Catholic school until 8th grade and hated every minute. Told my parents if they made me go to Catholic HS I would run away and join the Army. They relented and sent me to public HS. I was a tough case. I was defiant to authority in the extreme which didn’t go over well with the nuns. In the 50s physical punishment was the rule which just made me more defiant. Having said that, today’s Catholic schools are much different and they have mainly lay teachers. Much kinder and gentler. Most offer a superior education if for no other reason that they can reject trouble makers like myself. If you can afford it, I would recommend it. Just do your due diligence as you would with any school.
    I think I only saw one Nun teaching today. 

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  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191



    Is there any survey that does what you would like to see? On a sample size that's adequate?

    Probably not, I generally consider survey people lazy and their clients conceited. Most surveys I see are usually constructed to not ask real questions if they could lead to answers the client may not like, or just shallow. There are exceptions, but those surveys are usually PITA to fill, exhausting to the point nobody wants to fill them. I’ve seen CR’s surveys like that, so their issue is self-selecting sample.

    2018 430i Gran Coupe

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    Here's the initial quality study for 2017. Buick stayed the same. Chevrolet improved! from 85 to 82.



    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2018-us-initial-quality-study-iqs

    I am surprised almost every one of the cars in the survey had at least one problem in the first 90 days. I have owned about 25 new cars....I don't remember any of them having a problem in the first 90 days.

    Another thing is, take out the top 4 or 5 cars, and the bottom 8 or 10, and the rest are pretty close.
    Surprised Suburu and Mazda are at the bottom of the list.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    dino001 said:

    1. I Don't like the spot of the cup holder - quality problem by JD Power
    2. My mother can't figure out the entertainment system - quality problem by JD Power
    3. My late didn't know how to use navigation system - quality problem by JD Power
    4. My wife doesn't like hard suspension on my sports car - quality problem by JD Power
    5. I don't like my wife's soft suspension in her luxury car - quality problem by JD Power
    6. My sister thinks the seats are uncomfortable - quality problem by JD Power
    7. My aunt thinks the red color doesn't match her shoes well - quality problem by JD Power
    8. My new huge SUV can't turn on the same streets I could with my previous Civic - quality problem by JD Power.

    My car had 8 quality problems by JD Power

    1. My neighbor's engine exploded on his driveway.
    2. Otherwise, he said the car was great until then.

    My neighbor's car had 1 problem by JD Power survey.

    My coworker bought a brand new 2.0 Turbo top-of-the-line Accord. His brother bought a stripper 1.5. According to JD Power, both cars have exactly the same rating on performance, power and feature content.

    Well done....and actually quite accurate.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    stickguy said:

    the center diff is 30K interval, starting at 30k. The rear for some reason they call for at 15K, for the first change, then every 30K after that.

    Which means I am almost due for a 2nd change on the rear on the RDX, since the MM is down to 30% and we recently went over 50,000 miles.

    That’s exactly what my dealer told me....Acura’s first rear diff fluid change is at 15K (or in my case, 17K) Is generally a “clean out”....30K increments after that.

    Acura is pretty staunch in not supporting any “frivolous” services and sticks to the service minder as the ultimate guide for service. At this rate, and the strong possibility that an Acura TLX Type-S is on the horizon in the next 12-18 months, the only thing I should have to do to my current TLX is oil changes and tire rotations.

    On a sadder, and angrier note, I received a letter yesterday informing me I received an affidavit issued to me for speeding.

    HUH?

    I guess someone, somewhere clocked me doing 65 MPH in a 50 MPH zone and took a picture of my license plate. Apparently it’s a Civil matter and no points assessed on my license. But, they want $95 paid to the city I was speeding. Don’t remember me being in the area they stated I was observed to be speeding. But, I do regularly speed if the road is open and dry.

    My issue, while this was not in the OHIO area where the municipality had to return $3M in fines for using speeding cameras, this wasn’t all that far away from there. When did it become legal to use speeding cameras again? I thought all of this was decided to be unconstitutional?

    Trying to decide whether to take this to court. There’s an officer’s digital sig on the “ticket, which they’re calling the PHOTO ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM NOTICE OF LIABILITY.

    Pretty angered right now.
    I can understand that. Just like when my son got a ticket for speeding in a “work zone” where they just put up signs 9 months ago but never did any work.

    Don't print that...now other cities will try that too.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    edited January 2019
    abacomike said:

    Got my S450 back this afternoon -There is no way I will be able to get into another one - I just can’t afford shelling out this kind of money again.

    At least I will have fond memories of driving this fantastic automobile for three years.  I have never driven anything like it.  What a relief to have my S450 back again.  ;)

    Mike, have you considered a Nissan NISMO?

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    dino001 said:



    Is there any survey that does what you would like to see? On a sample size that's adequate?

    Probably not, I generally consider survey people lazy and their clients conceited. Most surveys I see are usually constructed to not ask real questions if they could lead to answers the client may not like, or just shallow. There are exceptions, but those surveys are usually PITA to fill, exhausting to the point nobody wants to fill them. I’ve seen CR’s surveys like that, so their issue is self-selecting sample.
    I started to do a JD Powers survey a year or two ago. They asked so many questions...most didn't mean much, that my head started spinning and I asked myself why I would do this without being paid for it.

    Then I joined AAA recently, they sent me a survey "so they could know my needs and serve me better". It was really just a way to figure out what they could sell me......you didn't have to be a genius to see through what they were doing.

    JD Powers is in business to make money, not to help you buy a better car. They ask questions so they can sell the information to car makers. If you can learn anything from a JDP survey it is buy the cars at the top of the list if dependability is really important to you, and you may have more problems than normal if you buy a car from the bottom 8 on the list.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429

    Thanks for posting that!

    Did @Fintail go there this fall on his trip?

    Nope I missed it, all of my Detroit car stuff was in Dearborn - only had so much time (and driving in Detroit is no fun)
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,340
    tjc78 said:

    Just toured a private Catholic school for my son entering Kindergarten in Sept.  My wife and I are so undecided whether to send him to public or go the private route.  

    We both did Catholic school up until about 5th grade and have no bad memories but such a tough decision.  Input appreciated 

    thx 

    We sent our son to a private Christian school for K-12; the so-called "public" schools in Kentucky are pretty grim. It was funny to learn how many students at my son's school had a parent who taught in a public school. One of my friends teaches Second Grade at my son's school and used to teach in public schools- she was even named teacher of the year once. She told me she is teaching her second graders more advanced lessons than the fourth graders received when she taught in public schools.

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    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,340



    @28firefighter ...to me, it's sneaky and should be illegal. I have questions. If I go to trial, can I question the alleged officer whose name is on the ticket? Can I ask him if he recognizes my car? Me? Will he even show up? Will they provide some sort of certification that their "speed equipment" is calibrated? I'm sure they want you to just pay it out, so that's why there are no points levied. It's a money grab, in an area right outside of where I live.

    This is the first ticket I've had in 25+ years. Last one I received I fought it because the officer didn't show up at the first hearing. They continued it. The 2nd hearing, I questioned the officer whether he knew the car he had ticketed or if he remembered me. He answered "no" and the case was dismissed.

    I do really want to fight it. Not sure of the laws anymore on speed cameras. I thought they were illegal.

    Speed cameras exist to increase revenue, period. The "Civil Citation" nonsense is just an excuse to deny your right to Due Process. Kentucky has it right, any traffic offense is a criminal violation and Defendants are entitled to all their constitutional rights- including trial by jury.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,834
    Amen, @roadburner.
    2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Private K-12 schools should generally score above public school because they can choose their students accepted. Of course you pay for that through their tuition and fees.
  • houdini2houdini2 Member Posts: 411
    driver100 said:

    Here's the initial quality study for 2017. Buick stayed the same. Chevrolet improved! from 85 to 82.



    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2018-us-initial-quality-study-iqs

    I am surprised almost every one of the cars in the survey had at least one problem in the first 90 days. I have owned about 25 new cars....I don't remember any of them having a problem in the first 90 days.

    Another thing is, take out the top 4 or 5 cars, and the bottom 8 or 10, and the rest are pretty close.
    Surprised Suburu and Mazda are at the bottom of the list.

    I personally like what Kia has done over the last few years and I see they are at the top. However, they have had 276 cars burn up over the last few years. Big recall and investigation underway. Makes me wonder if car burning up counts the same as inconvenient door handle.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    I seriously think there should be hidden speed cameras and red light cameras everywhere. I know this will be very unpopular, but I see cars speed up and go through red lights almost every day. No one wants to stop, and they don't want to stop for a yellow light....so, they stomp on it and go through a red. It is almost impossible to trust people will stop when you are making a left turn.

    I see people speeding through school zones almost every day too....the lights could be flashing and the limit in some areas is 15, some 20, cars drive through at full speed 40 or 50 mph.

    I would like to see unmarked cars with dashcams that record bad driving....cars that cut in, people who drive recklessly putting innocent bystanders at risk. Fines should be heavy to pay for the Rangers and their cars. If it makes money good.......it is a good way for counties to generate income from people who have no regard for others.

    If I am caught I will pay.......if it makes everyone safer it isn't a problem for me...might even make insurance cost less.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    houdini2 said:

    driver100 said:

    Here's the initial quality study for 2017. Buick stayed the same. Chevrolet improved! from 85 to 82.



    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2018-us-initial-quality-study-iqs

    I am surprised almost every one of the cars in the survey had at least one problem in the first 90 days. I have owned about 25 new cars....I don't remember any of them having a problem in the first 90 days.

    Another thing is, take out the top 4 or 5 cars, and the bottom 8 or 10, and the rest are pretty close.
    Surprised Suburu and Mazda are at the bottom of the list.

    I personally like what Kia has done over the last few years and I see they are at the top. However, they have had 276 cars burn up over the last few years. Big recall and investigation underway. Makes me wonder if car burning up counts the same as inconvenient door handle.
    I don't think those burning up cars were found until after the survey...may not be as high on the list next year.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    edited January 2019
    driver100 said:


    Another thing is, take out the top 4 or 5 cars, and the bottom 8 or 10, and the rest are pretty close.
    Surprised Suburu and Mazda are at the bottom of the list.

    Hey, driver it's SubAru, not Suburu. You consistently write that, even having the name in front of you. Just saying... :wink:

    I also find JD Power's "hatred" of Subaru quite puzzling. They consistently have rated for years them at bottom half in pretty much all categories (including dependability and new car "problems"), whereas CR has consistently rated their reliability (not necessarily other scores) near top, some years at very top (this year it's No. 4). It's been this way for over a decade. The discrepancy is even greater than say CR-JD Power spread on say Buick, where CR ranks it "average" in terms of overall brand reliability (this year it is fairly low 19 though, which surprised me - reading inside it's all because the Enclave spoiled the bunch). Unlike Imid, I don't smell any kind of conspiracy or bias, I'm just a little puzzled over such a spread, looks like totally different people fill those two surveys, or it's the nature of questions. If I had to theorize, I think it may be fit and finish causing annoyances with squeaks and rattles and probably some design quirks that are reported as "problems" in JD Power.

    Remembering one thing about CR survey was they would let you tell them how serious the reported problem was (essentially weighing the issues) and they didn't lump wrong cup holder position or gap in a door into same category as actual mechanical breakdowns preventing or impeding use of the vehicle. They'd ding that model for ergonomics, design, or fit and finish, but it would land in the score, leaving true dependability and reliability as a separate category true to its actual nature. Subarus are definitely not free of issues, especially on the high-performance line, my first 2003 WRX had undersized first and second gear cog that wore early and Subaru redesigned it year later and replaced them in existing cars on "goodwill" basis (they of course claimed it was my way of driving to blame, but they still paid), some number of engines blew gaskets easier that they should. So they weren't "saints" by all means, but the CR data indicates that they were generally better than most, wheres JD Power says they generally suck in comparison. That's a large spread of opinions.

    We can go on and on about the nature of the survey respondents, but guess what - JD Power is equally self-selecting as CR (they send you a survey, pester you about it for a little and if you don't respond, they leave you alone. I don't think they use dealer-reported data, which would be another good subject to beat to death, as we all know how companies can twist that data and how much effort they can put into not acknowledging the problem (yes Imid, I know, Honda transmission, yada, yada :wink: ).

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,123



    @28firefighter ...to me, it's sneaky and should be illegal. I have questions. If I go to trial, can I question the alleged officer whose name is on the ticket? Can I ask him if he recognizes my car? Me? Will he even show up? Will they provide some sort of certification that their "speed equipment" is calibrated? I'm sure they want you to just pay it out, so that's why there are no points levied. It's a money grab, in an area right outside of where I live.

    This is the first ticket I've had in 25+ years. Last one I received I fought it because the officer didn't show up at the first hearing. They continued it. The 2nd hearing, I questioned the officer whether he knew the car he had ticketed or if he remembered me. He answered "no" and the case was dismissed.

    I do really want to fight it. Not sure of the laws anymore on speed cameras. I thought they were illegal.

    Speed cameras exist to increase revenue, period. The "Civil Citation" nonsense is just an excuse to deny your right to Due Process. Kentucky has it right, any traffic offense is a criminal violation and Defendants are entitled to all their constitutional rights- including trial by jury.
    Thanks RB. I was hoping you would chime in. I know it’s not a lot of money. And, it’s clear that it’s nothing but a money grab. That’s what irritates me the most.

    A couple of people who received a ticket on this same stretch told me they move the van around to keep people from identifying it, and that it’s white, no windows and unmarked. That makes it easier to hide.

    Given that it’s a “civil” action, one person said they just didn’t pay it, and hasn’t heard squat about it for a year. According to him, anything under $300 is dismissed in civil court (that sounds dicey, but don’t know if it’s true).

    They do offer a part on the “civil notice of violation” to request a hearing, which I plan to utilize.
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    driver100 said:

    I seriously think there should be hidden speed cameras and red light cameras everywhere. I know this will be very unpopular, but I see cars speed up and go through red lights almost every day. No one wants to stop, and they don't want to stop for a yellow light....so, they stomp on it and go through a red. It is almost impossible to trust people will stop when you are making a left turn.

    I see people speeding through school zones almost every day too....the lights could be flashing and the limit in some areas is 15, some 20, cars drive through at full speed 40 or 50 mph.

    I would like to see unmarked cars with dashcams that record bad driving....cars that cut in, people who drive recklessly putting innocent bystanders at risk. Fines should be heavy to pay for the Rangers and their cars. If it makes money good.......it is a good way for counties to generate income from people who have no regard for others.

    If I am caught I will pay.......if it makes everyone safer it isn't a problem for me...might even make insurance cost less.

    My pet peeve is people not having light on during heavy rain (we have a few here in FL) and at night/dusk. It's seems inversely proportional to the color brightness - the darker the car, the higher probability of driver "forgetting" about the lights. Recent cars have these electroluminescent gauges which glow in the dark, so the driver doesn't realize he/she doesn't have lights on. Daytime running lights don't help, either - the car is lit in the front, so the driver thinks everything is OK, not knowing their back is dark as a hell hole. I really don't know why cups are not chasing those people - they are menace on the road much more than somebody going 80 mph on 70 mph zone.

    2018 430i Gran Coupe

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,388
    I like the auto lights tied to wipers feature. My tlx has that. Wish all cars did.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    I'd like to see a mandated defense of speed limits and traffic control optimization - if a supposed authority can't do it, then they lose their funding. Officials who collude with camera operators should also lose their jobs and pension benefits.

    Of course, you being in FL, the crazytrain state, you probably see things every day that most of us would find jaw-dropping.
    driver100 said:

    I seriously think there should be hidden speed cameras and red light cameras everywhere. I know this will be very unpopular, but I see cars speed up and go through red lights almost every day. No one wants to stop, and they don't want to stop for a yellow light....so, they stomp on it and go through a red. It is almost impossible to trust people will stop when you are making a left turn.

    I see people speeding through school zones almost every day too....the lights could be flashing and the limit in some areas is 15, some 20, cars drive through at full speed 40 or 50 mph.

    I would like to see unmarked cars with dashcams that record bad driving....cars that cut in, people who drive recklessly putting innocent bystanders at risk. Fines should be heavy to pay for the Rangers and their cars. If it makes money good.......it is a good way for counties to generate income from people who have no regard for others.

    If I am caught I will pay.......if it makes everyone safer it isn't a problem for me...might even make insurance cost less.

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,123
    Having myself and my son both products of a Catholic School Education (and probably other private schools), I think there are some distinct advantages and disadvantages.

    1. They get to choose who they want in their school(s). I know some have programs for students who suffer some academic maladies. But overall, unless you’re able to complete AP and/or college prep courses, you’re probably not going to succeed in a Catholic School.

    2. Teachers in Catholic Schools are allowed to teach. They don’t have time to “baby sit”. There’s a minimum level of behavioral issues they are required to tolerate. In brief, if you can’t learn, or are disruptive in any way, you’re subject to expulsion. The school is not required to allow you to stay. I know in my son’s graduating class, 30% of the students who were accepted Freshman year, did not graduate from his school. They either could not cut it academically, or could not accept the bar set for behavior.

    3. A disadvantage, the schools I’m familiar with have a minimum amount of programs to help struggling students. If you can’t compete in the classroom, regardless of your athletic prowess or socio-economic standing, if you can’t satisfactorily complete the course load, you can’t make it in a Catholic School.

    As @oldfarmer50 points out, as fine of a person as he is (and I do mean that sincerely), some reject and rebell against the many rules and procedures implemented by Catholic Schools for success. If you don’t want to be there, no amount of teaching prowess will make a difference. If you’re looking for a disciplinary type of school, there are special ones made just for that. Catholic Schools ain’t one of them. In a Catholic School, if you become a discipline problem, they’re likely not going to try to “straighten you out”. They just kick you out.

    The reward? You’ll have a top notch education once you graduate from a Catholic School. You’ll have learned great study habits which are good for any advanced education you decide you want to pursue. You’ll be desireable to employers and will likely succeed in your chosen field.
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  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,072
    “The reward? You’ll have a top notch education once you graduate from a Catholic School. You’ll have learned great study habits which are good for any advanced education you decide you want to pursue. You’ll be desireable to employers and will likely succeed in your chosen field.”

    Of course plenty of people get the same results going to public schools too. I’d say one of the advantages of public education is that you will not live in a bubble of selected students, but will be exposed to a lot more diversity.

    My big concern would be class size. That’s where the learning environment can degrade. Our children’s elementary public schools had decent class sizes because the town was small. The teachers knew everyone. It was when they moved to one large middle school that disciplinary issues became a problem. So you may find that for elementary school public schools will be just fine.
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    I'd be interested to see the level of vocational "success" for private vs public school students, and if said success can be directly attributed to the school, or other factors (apples often don't fall far from trees, economic mobility has withered, etc).

    I suspect area/neighborhood has a huge impact, too. There are no doubt many places where public schools have huge issues, and others where they are excellent.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,292
    The public school system here has been in crisis mode for a few years (apparently at least, according to the news and posts on social media) after the decision was made some time ago to adopt a policy of "inclusion" for most of the kids who would have previously been in institutions. These are kids with behavioral or learning problems, those with autism or severe physical disabilities, etc. Apparently this is the latest educational theory. Most of the institutions were closed and provisions were supposed to be made in the school system for all but the most challenged of these kids to receive special attention within a normal classroom.

    Naturally the government messed it up, helped along by reluctance from some teachers. If reports are to be believed, the move has resulted in both groups of students suffering as a result. The kids who were in school already are getting less productive class time because of the disruptions caused by the newly-included kids, and those kids are not getting the attention they need because the support structure is not adequate. It's a mess. There is a group that is saying it has failed and the special-needs kids should be moved out of the regular classrooms and into special streams just for them, while others do not support that. I have no clue what the best approach would be, but it is a very hot issue.

    Whether it was a result of this, general dissatisfaction with the school system, or just an increase in the number of parents having the means to pay for it, we have seen considerable growth in the number of private school enrollments here.

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,123
    Didn’t mean to imply that a Catholic School Education precludes anyone with a public school education from experiencing success. Sorry if it came across that way.

    Ultimately, it depends on the individual. If the individual seeks success, regardless of education or any pitfalls they may experience, they will likely succeed.
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Private or religious school is sometimes hard on the student during breaks because they don't know the other kids around the neighborhood all that well. So I think as a parent you have to try and foster some neighborhood stuff to help them be part of that student community where they reside.
  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    houdini2 said:

    driver100 said:

    Here's the initial quality study for 2017. Buick stayed the same. Chevrolet improved! from 85 to 82.



    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2018-us-initial-quality-study-iqs

    I am surprised almost every one of the cars in the survey had at least one problem in the first 90 days. I have owned about 25 new cars....I don't remember any of them having a problem in the first 90 days.

    Another thing is, take out the top 4 or 5 cars, and the bottom 8 or 10, and the rest are pretty close.
    Surprised Suburu and Mazda are at the bottom of the list.

    I personally like what Kia has done over the last few years and I see they are at the top. However, they have had 276 cars burn up over the last few years. Big recall and investigation underway. Makes me wonder if car burning up counts the same as inconvenient door handle.
    Hyundai and Kia are issuing a massive recall following repeated reports that certain vehicles can randomly catch fire while driving.
    At the center of this action is the Center for Auto Safety, an advocacy group that has been petitioning the NHTSA to investigate Hyundai and Kia vehicles for a fire risk. In a press release issued last October, the group says they have received 220 complaints regarding certain Hyundai and Kia models that randomly catch fire while being driven. Pictures and story at https://www.hotcars.com/hyundai-kia-recalli-fire-risk/
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    houdini2 said:

    driver100 said:

    Here's the initial quality study for 2017. Buick stayed the same. Chevrolet improved! from 85 to 82.



    https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2018-us-initial-quality-study-iqs

    I am surprised almost every one of the cars in the survey had at least one problem in the first 90 days. I have owned about 25 new cars....I don't remember any of them having a problem in the first 90 days.

    Another thing is, take out the top 4 or 5 cars, and the bottom 8 or 10, and the rest are pretty close.
    Surprised Suburu and Mazda are at the bottom of the list.

    I personally like what Kia has done over the last few years and I see they are at the top. However, they have had 276 cars burn up over the last few years. Big recall and investigation underway. Makes me wonder if car burning up counts the same as inconvenient door handle.
    I don't think those burning up cars were found until after the survey...may not be as high on the list next year.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    stickguy said:
    I like the auto lights tied to wipers feature. My tlx has that. Wish all cars did.
    Yes, i’ve Had that feature for quite some time on my cars - great help in case you forget.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    fintail said:

    I'd like to see a mandated defense of speed limits and traffic control optimization - if a supposed authority can't do it, then they lose their funding. Officials who collude with camera operators should also lose their jobs and pension benefits.

    Of course, you being in FL, the crazytrain state, you probably see things every day that most of us would find jaw-dropping.

    driver100 said:

    I seriously think there should be hidden speed cameras and red light cameras everywhere. I know this will be very unpopular, but I see cars speed up and go through red lights almost every day. No one wants to stop, and they don't want to stop for a yellow light....so, they stomp on it and go through a red. It is almost impossible to trust people will stop when you are making a left turn.

    I see people speeding through school zones almost every day too....the lights could be flashing and the limit in some areas is 15, some 20, cars drive through at full speed 40 or 50 mph.

    I would like to see unmarked cars with dashcams that record bad driving....cars that cut in, people who drive recklessly putting innocent bystanders at risk. Fines should be heavy to pay for the Rangers and their cars. If it makes money good.......it is a good way for counties to generate income from people who have no regard for others.

    If I am caught I will pay.......if it makes everyone safer it isn't a problem for me...might even make insurance cost less.

    I do, and others have found the same. My neighbor was born here...he has seen it go from almost a ghost town to a bustling area, with the worst driving he has ever seen.

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    driver100 said:
    I seriously think there should be hidden speed cameras and red light cameras everywhere. I know this will be very unpopular, but I see cars speed up and go through red lights almost every day. No one wants to stop, and they don't want to stop for a yellow light....so, they stomp on it and go through a red. It is almost impossible to trust people will stop when you are making a left turn. I see people speeding through school zones almost every day too....the lights could be flashing and the limit in some areas is 15, some 20, cars drive through at full speed 40 or 50 mph. I would like to see unmarked cars with dashcams that record bad driving....cars that cut in, people who drive recklessly putting innocent bystanders at risk. Fines should be heavy to pay for the Rangers and their cars. If it makes money good.......it is a good way for counties to generate income from people who have no regard for others. If I am caught I will pay.......if it makes everyone safer it isn't a problem for me...might even make insurance cost less.
    You’re right about your position on cameras to detect speeders and red light passers being unpopular.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    dino001 said:

    driver100 said:


    Another thing is, take out the top 4 or 5 cars, and the bottom 8 or 10, and the rest are pretty close.
    Surprised Suburu and Mazda are at the bottom of the list.

    Hey, driver it's SubAru, not Suburu. You consistently write that, even having the name in front of you. Just saying... :wink:
    .
    Since it is a Japanese word I am spelling it phonetically which is my right since it isn't English anyway. I spell it the way it should be spelled.

    The name Subaru is Japanese, meaning 'unite'. It's also a term for a cluster of six stars in the Taurus constellation, named 'Pleiades' by the ancient Greeks. According to Greek mythology, these stars were once Atlas' daughters. ... Subaru was the first automobile brand to use a Japanese word as its name.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    berri said:

    Private K-12 schools should generally score above public school because they can choose their students accepted. Of course you pay for that through their tuition and fees.

    Privatization of all societal functions can be good, but also can be dangerous. It depends on the consequences of doing it.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    abacomike said:


    driver100 said:

    I seriously think there should be hidden speed cameras and red light cameras everywhere. I know this will be very unpopular, but I see cars speed up and go through red lights almost every day. No one wants to stop, and they don't want to stop for a yellow light....so, they stomp on it and go through a red. It is almost impossible to trust people will stop when you are making a left turn.

    I see people speeding through school zones almost every day too....the lights could be flashing and the limit in some areas is 15, some 20, cars drive through at full speed 40 or 50 mph.

    I would like to see unmarked cars with dashcams that record bad driving....cars that cut in, people who drive recklessly putting innocent bystanders at risk. Fines should be heavy to pay for the Rangers and their cars. If it makes money good.......it is a good way for counties to generate income from people who have no regard for others.

    If I am caught I will pay.......if it makes everyone safer it isn't a problem for me...might even make insurance cost less.

    You’re right about your position on cameras to detect speeders and red light passers being unpopular.

    I am right.... because most people don't like to pay fines....even if they do speed or go through a red light. And now it has become a rights issue......as in, if you are going to catch me for doing something you have to do it in person. IMM(modest)O, the rights of many should be held to a higher value than the rights of the few lawbreakers.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited January 2019
    If anyone is interested and has the time, THIS VIDEO by a lawyer really gets into the whole issue of red light cameras and all the legal ramifications. It's pretty entertaining. (About 18 minutes).
  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    driver100 said:


    The name Subaru is Japanese, meaning 'unite'. It's also a term for a cluster of six stars in the Taurus constellation, named 'Pleiades' by the ancient Greeks. According to Greek mythology, these stars were once Atlas' daughters. ... Subaru was the first automobile brand to use a Japanese word as its name.

    You may have noticed that their logo is the Pleiades, but the second meaning is a great word play.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    We'll glide back into a Dickensian socio-economic spectrum. It's happening now.



    Privatization of all societal functions can be good, but also can be dangerous. It depends on the consequences of doing it.

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yes, intense privatization usually precedes rapid decline of Empire.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    edited January 2019
    Has anyone else gotten a survey from Nielson about the topic of your XM listening habits?

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    We have had Allstate insurance on the Florida car for 6 years now. Last year I thought I would compare so I checked AARP The Hereford or something....their price came to about $35 more than we pay now.

    This year I decided to try AAA. Their price came to $120 more than Allstate, and only $500k liability instead of the $1 million Canadians are used to.

    Guess we stay with Allstate.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,292

    Yes, intense privatization usually precedes rapid decline of Empire.

    Tell that to the former Soviet Union.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,495

    Has anyone else gotten a survey from Nielson about the topic of my XM listening habits?

    Why would I get a survey asking about your listening habits?

    I don't know what they are. :wink:

    But, since I'm not a current subscriber, I doubt I would get a survey, at all.

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  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    edited January 2019
    ab348 said:

    Yes, intense privatization usually precedes rapid decline of Empire.

    Tell that to the former Soviet Union.
    He meant when people start taking privately matters usually taken care by state, such as defense, policing, etc. The government becomes so weak, it can't provide basic services and framework for civil society.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    Only if we allow the counterpoint, where the guy on land is also holding the gun.
    driver100 said:




    .........am I allowed to print this?


  • houdini2houdini2 Member Posts: 411
    driver100 said:

    dino001 said:

    driver100 said:


    Another thing is, take out the top 4 or 5 cars, and the bottom 8 or 10, and the rest are pretty close.
    Surprised Suburu and Mazda are at the bottom of the list.

    Hey, driver it's SubAru, not Suburu. You consistently write that, even having the name in front of you. Just saying... :wink:
    .
    Since it is a Japanese word I am spelling it phonetically which is my right since it isn't English anyway. I spell it the way it should be spelled.

    The name Subaru is Japanese, meaning 'unite'. It's also a term for a cluster of six stars in the Taurus constellation, named 'Pleiades' by the ancient Greeks. According to Greek mythology, these stars were once Atlas' daughters. ... Subaru was the first automobile brand to use a Japanese word as its name.
    My question is, why isn't phonics spelled fonics, given it's definition.
  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,168
    Michaell said:

    Has anyone else gotten a survey from Nielson about the topic of my XM listening habits?

    Why would I get a survey asking about your listening habits?

    I don't know what they are. :wink:

    But, since I'm not a current subscriber, I doubt I would get a survey, at all.
    Did you try that Subaru map update link? I'm curious if it will work with pre-2018's.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    fintail said:

    Only if we allow the counterpoint, where the guy on land is also holding the gun.

    driver100 said:




    .........am I allowed to print this?


    We could have the guy on land holding the gun too, but, then it wouldn't be as clever.......

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    dino001 said:

    ab348 said:

    Yes, intense privatization usually precedes rapid decline of Empire.

    Tell that to the former Soviet Union.
    He meant when people start taking privately matters usually taken care by state, such as defense, policing, etc. The government becomes so weak, it can't provide basic services and framework for civil society.
    I thought he meant...when a country like Cuba starts taking over private businesses....the country will usually decline. Countries don't run businesses as well as private enterprise does.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    ab348 said:

    Yes, intense privatization usually precedes rapid decline of Empire.

    Tell that to the former Soviet Union.
    Let's not go there. They sucked at making cars anyway. (good tanks, though).


  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Excellent air defense as well. Maybe better than ours.
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