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fintail

Most property is cheaper, summer weather is better, mildly less of a rat race, better scenery and cleaner, lower cost of living, thriving job market, plenty of reasons. It's the reason why there's been an emigrant trail from CA to WA for the past 35 years.

Who is vilifying execs? I think some reading lessons are in order. The rest of that bizarre exercise in strawmen defies answer.

ruking1 said:

Why would so called “house rich” CALIFORNICATORS want to go to WASHINGTON FORNICATORS, your hood/Seattle to pay even MORE taxations on the move & settlement? Our CPA’s can chime in on the taxation issues.

All one need do is think about it for a minute. Even mid to higher level executives, (the very same people you vilify) with moves paid for by their companies sustain financial $$’s hits. Why would your so called “lucky ones” want another mortgage for higher lengths of time, amounts, interest ? In some cases, they have NO mortgages.

I hope one’s not watching too many Fantasy Island episodes?

jmonroe1

roadburner said:

Back in 1982 I was driving my Arrow 2.6 GT up I-75 from Lexington to Cincinnati to visit my girlfriend(now wife). As usual, because of the moronic 55 mph NMSL, I had my CB radio and V1 on full alert. I came up on an Olds Omega sedan in the right lane. I pulled into the left lane to pass and he sped up to keep pace with me. Every time I'd speed up so would he. About that time I heard the CB announcing that a cop was sitting on the next entrance ramp painting cars with radar as the passed. I floored it an Omega Man stayed with me to north of 85 mph. When the ramp was about a half mile away I slowed down to 55 while the Olds was still going at 85 or so. I next hear the CB announce that "The bear has got him a four wheeler!"
I beeped when I drove by as well...

You should have been arrested for that. I have to admit that I have done that a few times hoping a cop would be a little bit down the road but it never worked for me. The guys probably thought they kick my a s s. Well, at least we both had some fun.

jmonroe

ruking1

Well sports fans, the Sweet 16 March Madness is filling up!😜👍

This 2019 TLC might be interesting in a diesel?
https://youtu.be/JFl5SXHSoZE

suydam

You wouldn’t recommend an Altima based one ONE experience from a car you didn’t even own? That’s a standard I don’t think any car company could meet.

oldfarmer50

suydam said:

You wouldn’t recommend an Altima based one ONE experience from a car you didn’t even own? That’s a standard I don’t think any car company could meet.

Maybe so but would you want to be stranded out in the boondocks because a transmission with a glitchy reputation failed exactly like it’s critics said it would? Still like the Altima but wouldn’t buy one with my own money. I’ve driven a lot of cars from $15 to 100k and never had a transmission fail like that. My research tells me that the Jatco CVTs are not ready for prime time.

ruking1

Indeed! But it’s in a context, just as the CVT transmission. Oops,...
https://youtu.be/-gpctiidqKM

driver100

ab348 said:

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
Pretty soon they are going to want to live in your car.

What a nice place to raise a family once they decide to have kids, especially since Mr. & Mrs. Driver are not there 7 months a year.

That gets me....people who have 6 or 8 kids and they have no plan on how they are going to pay for them.....guess it is up to us.

driver100

Mr_Shiftright said:

And no mortgage!

Just a small monthly car payment.
Maybe you guys should have an article.....best cars to live in if you have to. Probably one of those big Caddies from the 80s would offer luxury, comfort and space.

driver100

stickguy said:

I'll be lucky to convince my wife to divest enough stuff to downsize to a 3 BR, 1,800 SF house. She might have a nervous breakdown trying to have the 2 of us live in such a tiny space!

You would be surprised how little space you need once you get older. Our home - home has 2400 sq ft, Florida home has 1400. We are perfectly satisfied with 1400 sq ft....2 bdrm, 2 bthrm, open concept kitchen, dining rm, LR. We each have our computer. Extra room and extra possessions just get in the way. Most "seniors" I talk to are happy to downsize, and feel better once they do it.

abacomike

driver100 said:

I'll be lucky to convince my wife to divest enough stuff to downsize to a 3 BR, 1,800 SF house. She might have a nervous breakdown trying to have the 2 of us live in such a tiny space!

You would be surprised how little space you need once you get older. Our home - home has 2400 sq ft, Florida home has 1400. We are perfectly satisfied with 1400 sq ft....2 bdrm, 2 bthrm, open concept kitchen, dining rm, LR. We each have our computer. Extra room and extra possessions just get in the way. Most "seniors" I talk to are happy to downsize, and feel better once they do it.

Not only downsize living space, but also a reduction in possessions such as clothing, jewelry, etc.  After I retired, I donated all my business attire to disabled veterans.  I don’t own a dress shirt, a tie, a suit or sport jacket.  I own 1 pair of jeans, one pair of dress slacks, a few sweaters and sweatshirts - and 7 pairs of shorts and 10 Polo golf shirts and a few other button down brightly colored shirts.  I own two pairs of dress shoes and 2 pairs of walking shoes.

I sold all my gold jewelry.  I kept my Rolex Rolesor watch which I am saving for my grandson and my Rado Jubilee watch for my other grandson.

Except for 30 year old furniture in my condo which is high quality stuff, that’s all I own - except for the condo which is free and clear.

When I pass on, there won’t be much to worry about.  I can’t remember the last time I wore a pair of dress slacks or dress shoes.

abacomike

One of the great benefits of living in a warm climate is the significantly reduced need for fall, winter and spring clothing.  I slip on a golf shirt and a pair of shorts every morning with my walking shoes and I am good to go! 

imidazol97

I recalled Mike had said there was a gale warning in that area of FL.

The news that the local station wanted to report about was so short, they showed a video of a tree in Miami FL that had fallen on a car. They were really hard up for news that fit their bill. They ran the video over and over for what seemed like 45 seconds.

In Dayton OH they show video of a car in FL. Really.

oldfarmer50

ruking1 said:

Indeed! But it’s in a context, just as the CVT transmission. Oops,...
https://youtu.be/-gpctiidqKM

Good old Scotty.

Hey, anybody have any success with that rust cure he was talking about?

snakeweasel

houdini2 said:

The "joke" is that homelessness is related to climate change, but it's really no joke. I mean, look at migrations in ancient history. As the southern and coastal U.S. become unbearable or untenable, I bet lots of babies born today are going to be heading north when they've grown up.

The "joke" is that homelessness is related to climate change, but it's really no joke. I mean, look at migrations in ancient history. As the southern and coastal U.S. become unbearable or untenable, I bet lots of babies born today are going to be heading north when they've grown up.

Wasn't that supposed to have happened 20 years ago? At any rate, according to some politicians it will be all over in 12 years, so no need to make long range plans.

Yes it was supposed to happen 20 years ago, also 30 years ago, also 40 years ago. I have been hearing this crap for 50 years and not one of these predictions have come true. 

graphicguy

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:

What’s brad Emaus got to do with it?

Isn’t that Charlie Hustle?

‘Tis!!!!!!!

stickguy

Edd China used it on a project. I doubt it will fix your rotted out Tacoma frame rails though!

jmonroe1

abacomike said:

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

I'll be lucky to convince my wife to divest enough stuff to downsize to a 3 BR, 1,800 SF house. She might have a nervous breakdown trying to have the 2 of us live in such a tiny space!

You would be surprised how little space you need once you get older. Our home - home has 2400 sq ft, Florida home has 1400. We are perfectly satisfied with 1400 sq ft....2 bdrm, 2 bthrm, open concept kitchen, dining rm, LR. We each have our computer. Extra room and extra possessions just get in the way. Most "seniors" I talk to are happy to downsize, and feel better once they do it.

Not only downsize living space, but also a reduction in possessions such as clothing, jewelry, etc.  After I retired, I donated all my business attire to disabled veterans.  I don’t own a dress shirt, a tie, a suit or sport jacket.  I own 1 pair of jeans, one pair of dress slacks, a few sweaters and sweatshirts - and 7 pairs of shorts and 10 Polo golf shirts and a few other button down brightly colored shirts.  I own two pairs of dress shoes and 2 pairs of walking shoes.

I sold all my gold jewelry.  I kept my Rolex Rolesor watch which I am saving for my grandson and my Rado Jubilee watch for my other grandson.

Except for 30 year old furniture in my condo which is high quality stuff, that’s all I own - except for the condo which is free and clear.

When I pass on, there won’t be much to worry about.  I can’t remember the last time I wore a pair of dress slacks or dress shoes.

@Mike, you don't have much time because @driver100 is going to be deported soon, so you have to hurry up and have a dress-off with him. We'll decide the winner, who will get a pair of nice dress pants since, if you win, that is what it seems like you need most. Of course he'd think the prize should be a horizontally striped shirt but this contest gives favor to US citizenship.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

snakeweasel said:

houdini2 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

The "joke" is that homelessness is related to climate change, but it's really no joke. I mean, look at migrations in ancient history. As the southern and coastal U.S. become unbearable or untenable, I bet lots of babies born today are going to be heading north when they've grown up.

Mr_Shiftright said:

The "joke" is that homelessness is related to climate change, but it's really no joke. I mean, look at migrations in ancient history. As the southern and coastal U.S. become unbearable or untenable, I bet lots of babies born today are going to be heading north when they've grown up.

Wasn't that supposed to have happened 20 years ago? At any rate, according to some politicians it will be all over in 12 years, so no need to make long range plans.

Yes it was supposed to happen 20 years ago, also 30 years ago, also 40 years ago. I have been hearing this crap for 50 years and not one of these predictions have come true. 

That sounds like a guy who bought heavily into Chicago property who was expecting to set out a few beach chairs before he left this earth.

jmonroe

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

And no mortgage!

Just a small monthly car payment. Maybe you guys should have an article.....best cars to live in if you have to. Probably one of those big Caddies from the 80s would offer luxury, comfort and space.

You can get a used school bus cheap and for a little cash you can fix it up into a decent mobile home.

snakeweasel

abacomike said:

One of the great benefits of living in a warm climate is the significantly reduced need for fall, winter and spring clothing.  I slip on a golf shirt and a pair of shorts every morning with my walking shoes and I am good to go! 

I don't know about that, I have been in Florida in 60 degree weather and seen people in parkas.

qbrozen

Ever since you guys conned me into clicking on one of those Scotty videos, I will never click on another.
What rust fix? I used POR-15 once. Couldn't tell you if it is working since I don't have the car anymore.

abacomike

snakeweasel said:

abacomike said:

One of the great benefits of living in a warm climate is the significantly reduced need for fall, winter and spring clothing.  I slip on a golf shirt and a pair of shorts every morning with my walking shoes and I am good to go! 

I don't know about that, I have been in Florida in 60 degree weather and seen people in parkas.

Sweatshirt is all I would need.  I wear shorts 350 days a year, even with a sweatshirt or a sweater.  If it gets any colder - like 45-55 degrees during the day - I just stay home in my recliner with a comforter.

houdini2

ruking1 said:

Well sports fans, the Sweet 16 March Madness is filling up!😜👍

This 2019 TLC might be interesting in a diesel?
https://youtu.be/JFl5SXHSoZE

They have them in most parts of the world and they perform and last forever.

ruking1

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

houdini2 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

The "joke" is that homelessness is related to climate change, but it's really no joke. I mean, look at migrations in ancient history. As the southern and coastal U.S. become unbearable or untenable, I bet lots of babies born today are going to be heading north when they've grown up.

Mr_Shiftright said:

The "joke" is that homelessness is related to climate change, but it's really no joke. I mean, look at migrations in ancient history. As the southern and coastal U.S. become unbearable or untenable, I bet lots of babies born today are going to be heading north when they've grown up.

Wasn't that supposed to have happened 20 years ago? At any rate, according to some politicians it will be all over in 12 years, so no need to make long range plans.

Yes it was supposed to happen 20 years ago, also 30 years ago, also 40 years ago. I have been hearing this crap for 50 years and not one of these predictions have come true. 

That sounds like a guy who bought heavily into Chicago property who was expecting to set out a few beach chairs before he left this earth.

jmonroe

Indeed! It’s all total fantasy! HOAX!

NYC, Boston, SF, etc.,etc., (three coasts) are supposed to be under 12 ft of ocean water, long ago? ! Last I checked all these places have, are still, will continue to build in those places they said will be 12 ft UNDER!

SF, CA let a ($B’s) University of California, San Francisco HUGE hospital complex be built on land 4 ft above sea level. As most know, complex’s like these have 30 year to 100 year life cycles.

Indeed the new Golden State Warriors basketball arena/stadium is near... water. The Giants baseball Stadium is built near/over... water.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/over-budget-and-still-under-construction-the-golden-state-warriors-new-arena-is-already-profitable-2019-03-28

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

And no mortgage!

Just a small monthly car payment.
Maybe you guys should have an article.....best cars to live in if you have to. Probably one of those big Caddies from the 80s would offer luxury, comfort and space.

You can get a used school bus cheap and for a little cash you can fix it up into a decent mobile home.

$8-10k if you want one that runs.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

Ever since you guys conned me into clicking on one of those Scotty videos, I will never click on another.
What rust fix? I used POR-15 once. Couldn't tell you if it is working since I don't have the car anymore.

In that posted video, after Scotty got done bashing Nissan transmissions he went on to some paint on rust killer that transforms rust into solid metal. I’ve read a few articles on it and it sounds like it could stabilize surface rust. I was wondering how it would work as a rust PREVENTOR. You know, paint it inside wheel wells or rockers.

I know back in the day Zebiart didn’t work too well.

Mr_Shiftright

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

And no mortgage!

Just a small monthly car payment.
Maybe you guys should have an article.....best cars to live in if you have to. Probably one of those big Caddies from the 80s would offer luxury, comfort and space.

I suspect that the sq ft in a Ford Expedition and a studio apt. in Manhattan aren't too far apart!

ruking1

Mr_Shiftright said:

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

And no mortgage!

Just a small monthly car payment.
Maybe you guys should have an article.....best cars to live in if you have to. Probably one of those big Caddies from the 80s would offer luxury, comfort and space.

I suspect that the sq ft in a Ford Expedition and a studio apt. in Manhattan aren't too far apart!

Now I know where old RV’s go to hang out, (step up from homelessness?) Stanford University, Stanford CA, , but on public parking spaces, right across from a suburban shopping mall.

Mr_Shiftright

Beats living in a car.

ruking1

Mr_Shiftright said:

Beats living in a car.

For years, RVing the USA was on the bucket list. When back to one’s own property, it can be like university come back home unit, to life with in-laws.

oldfarmer50

ruking1 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

Beats living in a car.

For years, RVing the USA was on the bucket list. When back to one’s own property, it can be like university come back home unit, to life with in-laws.

A fella a work thought he’d like the RV life and bought an $80,000 beast without renting first. He drove it about 10,000 in the first year and then lost interest. Two years old now and he can’t get his $56,000 asking price.

Mr_Shiftright

It's like the people who buy a boat to "sail around the world". I mean, it can all be an adventure of sorts, but it's also hard work keeping up with all the systems and maintenance. A year's worth sounds about right to me.

Some of those RV rigs are pretty posh I gotta say. Kind of like a Ritz-Carlton on wheels.

I might consider a log RV---might be kinda heavy, though.

stickguy

I have zero desire to RV, and I think my wife has less. I can guarantee though if we were going to try, it would be in a rental to start.

ruking1

It’s funny how it works! Maintenance: Scheduled and unscheduled cured me of it. I saw a home property in the Grants Pass, OR with a very slick RV set up stubbed for: huge rectangular concrete pad, roof, sewer, water, electrical, gas, hot water, TV satellite, WiFi. Too many jobs, or too many more to over see

ab348

I visited a very expensive pusher RV (like an intercity bus chassis) one time. I think the owner paid something like $150K for the thing. It was certainly posh, but I cannot imagine driving a bus is very much fun after a while. Especially if you do what this guy did and towed a car behind it to use when they camped somewhere.

Mr_Shiftright

Some RVers claim "the freedom of the road" but driving a bus with a car behind it is freedom? Really?

I have a friend who turned a Sprinter into a camper and that makes more sense. It's pretty comfy inside, you can stand up (well, she can) and you can access campsites and other parking places where the monsters can't go or aren't allowed. Still, her rig wasn't cheap to buy or build out.

ruking1

The bus gig seems good if one spend extended days to months in places. It also seems ideal as one can run a business from it. The car can be used for what cars are normally used for.

Either the bus and car and/or the Mercedes Benz Sprinter conversion can/do work & well.

The wife got the 411 from her colleague who spent north of $80 k for the extended chassis MB Sprinter. She offered to take us or let us use it for an extended time. She didn’t get the shower option. ?? But hey, one can take (rent a) showers at truck stops.

28firefighter

If I'm going to be hitting the road in an RV and needing to park at campsites and truck stops, whatever I build darn well better have my own shower and toilet. If I can't bring my own shower and toilet with me, I'm not interested.

Mr_Shiftright

Sounds like you need a house mover, not an RV.

ruking1

She’s got the toilet! Right now without talking to her, it’s a mystery why she didn’t do the shower head. Even having the shower head on a hose is a game changer.

driver100

@Mike, you don't have much time because @driver100 is going to be deported soon, so you have to hurry up and have a dress-off with him. We'll decide the winner, who will get a pair of nice dress pants since, if you win, that is what it seems like you need most. Of course he'd think the prize should be a horizontally striped shirt but this contest gives favor to US citizenship.

jmonroe

JM....When I go I am leaving my horizontal striped T-shirt to you. You can try to get into it or you can use it to wax your car. At least you will have a lasting memento of The Driver.

driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

And no mortgage!

Just a small monthly car payment.
Maybe you guys should have an article.....best cars to live in if you have to. Probably one of those big Caddies from the 80s would offer luxury, comfort and space.

You can get a used school bus cheap and for a little cash you can fix it up into a decent mobile home.

I have seen a few of those homes around. Down here you can have one block with new townhomes, a scrap yard, broken down cottages, a few trailers, a retail store, a bar, a garage, one of those huge mountains of barried garbage, and someone living in an old school bus. The zoning laws are wild...if they actually have any.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

And no mortgage!

Just a small monthly car payment.
Maybe you guys should have an article.....best cars to live in if you have to. Probably one of those big Caddies from the 80s would offer luxury, comfort and space.

You can get a used school bus cheap and for a little cash you can fix it up into a decent mobile home.

$8-10k if you want one that runs.

I'll send Whizzy and her new hubby to you if she is looking for a school bus that actually runs.

imidazol97

driver100 said:

JM....When I go I am leaving my horizontal striped T-shirt to you. You can try to get into it or you can use it to wax your car. At least you will have a lasting memento of The Driver.

When are you going? ...back to Canada, that is. I have started seeing trailer homes being towed north with Canadian plates on them. I assume they're coming from Florida.

I feel for them. I can see driving a nice comfortable car from Florida back North. But driving a heavy pickup with a silver trailer home has to be grueling. I can just picture going up the hills in TN.

driver100

stickguy said:

I have zero desire to RV, and I think my wife has less. I can guarantee though if we were going to try, it would be in a rental to start.

Have a friend who wanted an RV for a long time. Retired, finally got one.
Paid over $100k, on his first trip to Florida it broke down in the middle of Nowhere Georgia.
He ended up waiting 5 days for a part to be UPS'd to him....and have it installed.
Not my idea of how you want to spend a few days on vacation.

venture

stickguy said:

I have zero desire to RV, and I think my wife has less. I can guarantee though if we were going to try, it would be in a rental to start.

Me either and, fortunately, neither does Mrs. Venture.

Friends are retiring within a year and are going to go RVing. I mentioned about how many nights you can spend in a hotel for the cost of an RV, but she has it all figured out. When they got married I always hoped she would eventually be more like him. It sadly turned out he became more like her.

driver100

ruking1 said:

The bus gig seems good if one spend extended days to months in places. It also seems ideal as one can run a business from it. The car can be used for what cars are normally used for.

Either the bus and car and/or the Mercedes Benz Sprinter conversion can/do work & well.

The wife got the 411 from her colleague who spent north of $80 k for the extended chassis MB Sprinter. She offered to take us or let us use it for an extended time. She didn’t get the shower option. ?? But hey, one can take (rent a) showers at truck stops.

Charming.....sounds like the life!

Look honey, there's a truck stop, lets stop here and use the shower.

driver100

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

JM....When I go I am leaving my horizontal striped T-shirt to you. You can try to get into it or you can use it to wax your car. At least you will have a lasting memento of The Driver.

When are you going? ...back to Canada, that is. I have started seeing trailer homes being towed north with Canadian plates on them. I assume they're coming from Florida.

I feel for them. I can see driving a nice comfortable car from Florida back North. But driving a heavy pickup with a silver trailer home has to be grueling. I can just picture going up the hills in TN.

We get picked up by airport Shuttle Sunday at 9 a.m.
Fly to Toronto...leaving at noon. Expected arrival about 3:15.
My SIL/BIL left yesterday to avoid the huge end of the month crowd...who will leave on Mar 31 or April 1.
They should get home late tomorrow afternoon. 2 1/2 days of driving, or 3 hours by plane....we are spoiled now.
Some of those Ford F-150s with a trailer get about 8 mpg!
A pad to park the trailer on can easily be $1500 to $2000 a month.
We had friends with a 5th wheel. Not to be a snob, but you have to live the way you want, but, we had lunch sitting between 2 trailer homes.....with huge tires right next to us.
Not my idea of a good time.

Mr_Shiftright

I wonder what it feels like to fill up one of those big motor coaches with diesel--in California that's about $380 a tank.

explorerx4

Do truck stops have higher limits for charging fuel?
Any gas station I've been to has a $100 limit on a card.
Sometimes. I've had to break out a 2nd card to finish filling up.