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roadburner

venture said:

@driver100, If you had comprehended one of my previous posts, you would realize it may never need replacement. It's just something that should be and can easily be checked if you are looking at one of those cars.

In all likelihood my guy will probably shoot down any car I come up with. When people say they want help picking out a car what they really mean is they want you to approve of whatever they pick out.

I won't go with people to look at cars any more. Some because of what you said, and others because you get no recognition if a car works out OK, but you get blamed if it's not a good car - like you knew that and kept it from them.

My mother was that way about EVERYTHING. She asked for my advice but it was always wrong. I finally refused to give her advice on any topic. 

roadburner

driver100 said:

@driver100, If you had comprehended one of my previous posts, you would realize it may never need replacement. It's just something that should be and can easily be checked if you are looking at one of those cars.

Yeh, well, what if some poor moron takes his car in for service and they tell him he should replace his air filter, so he says sure go ahead. And then he gets the bill with a $100 air filter on it. And, I still don't get what that filter could possibly made out of to make it worth that much....probably not corrugated cardboard I hope!

Yesterday I spent all of fifteen minutes installing an engine air filter and a cabin air filter in the Clubman; using OEM Mann filters from FCP Euro the cost was a budget-busting $30.90. 

snakeweasel

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

More news about Renault and Nissan - now according to the Financial Times there are reports that they are seeking a full merger of the two companies and then want to swallow up FCA. https://www.autonews.com/automakers-suppliers/renault-seeks-merger-nissan-and-fca-report-says

Renault is seeking to restart merger talks with Nissan within 12 months as the first step toward the creation of a bigger auto conglomerate that will involve a bid by both companies for Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, the Financial Times reported. The creation of a new alliance board led by Renault Chairman Jean-Dominique Senard has improved confidence that the two sides can push ahead with merger plans, the newspaper reported Wednesday, citing unidentified people familiar with both sides' thinking. A combination of Renault, Nissan, Fiat and Chrysler would create an automaker that could better compete against global competitors such as Volkswagen and Toyota. Carlos Ghosn, the former chairman of Renault and Nissan who was arrested in Tokyo in November on charges of financial wrongdoing, had held talks about merging Renault with Fiat Chrysler two to three years ago, the Financial Times reported, citing two unidentified sources. Ghosn’s proposal was stopped by the French government, the newspaper said. Ghosn, who is free on bail pending his trial, has denied the charges against him. Fiat Chrysler itself is seeking a partnership or merger, and Chairman John Elkann has met with other rivals including PSA Group to gauge the possibility of a deal, the newspaper reported.

A conglomerate of poor quality brands? Yeah, what could go wrong with that? According to driver100’s best friend Scotty Kilmer, that’s like putting all the bad eggs in one basket. https://youtu.be/CbqibbNaNuQ

On his best day Kilmer is a blithering idiot. 

I have to agree with you. Also everytime I see his videos all I want to do is reach through the screen and rip those damned sunglasses off his race.

snakeweasel

This is my 15,000th post. 

Mr_Shiftright

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:

@oldfarmer50,
The Focus has the 2.3, so pretty peppy.
If it's a PZEV model, it has a very expensive air filter unit that costs $400/$500 for the part.
There is a green/red gauge on it that shows if it is still ok.

Air filter that costs $500! And you were complaining about the cost of servicing a Mercedes?

Well, let's say I gave you a choice of cutting off your gas supply or your air supply? Which would you pay more to keep? You gotta use logic, man.

Mr_Shiftright

roadburner said:

venture said:

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
If you had comprehended one of my previous posts, you would realize it may never need replacement.
It's just something that should be and can easily be checked if you are looking at one of those cars.

In all likelihood my guy will probably shoot down any car I come up with. When people say they want help picking out a car what they really mean is they want you to approve of whatever they pick out.

I won't go with people to look at cars any more. Some because of what you said, and others because you get no recognition if a car works out OK, but you get blamed if it's not a good car - like you knew that and kept it from them.

My mother was that way about EVERYTHING. She asked for my advice but it was always wrong. I finally refused to give her advice on any topic. 

No, no! You above all people should know how to earn a reputation for wisdom. When someone asks you for advice, determine beforehand what it is they want to do anyway, and then tell them to do that. Trust me, this works! I an a virtual Divine Oracle in my family.

ruking1

Mr_Shiftright said:

roadburner said:

venture said:

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
If you had comprehended one of my previous posts, you would realize it may never need replacement.
It's just something that should be and can easily be checked if you are looking at one of those cars.

In all likelihood my guy will probably shoot down any car I come up with. When people say they want help picking out a car what they really mean is they want you to approve of whatever they pick out.

I won't go with people to look at cars any more. Some because of what you said, and others because you get no recognition if a car works out OK, but you get blamed if it's not a good car - like you knew that and kept it from them.

My mother was that way about EVERYTHING. She asked for my advice but it was always wrong. I finally refused to give her advice on any topic. 

No, no! You above all people should know how to earn a reputation for wisdom. When someone asks you for advice, determine beforehand what it is they want to do anyway, and then tell them to do that. Trust me, this works! I an a virtual Divine Oracle in my family.

Too funny, but true! I’ve LONG since taken to giving advice only on threat of/and or actual payment. 😇👍 So for example, IF what I advise is worth say $165,000 to one person, but more importantly the person has to follow through, how much is that advice worth? So in my experience YES/NO BUT, that can’t be true...are the usual responses.

henryn

Women are more likely to need help in deciding what car to purchase, but they tend to be swayed by the color (exterior more than interior). Men more often need help with financing and math.

I just had a fun time with SiriusXM. Again. They autorenewed on the minivan at $123 for 6 months, and I didn't even know it until the Amex bill came in. So I call, renegotiate, get 12 months for $108. I really really hate their business practices.

jmonroe1

snakeweasel said:

This is my 15,000th post. 

What are you looking for, a medal or a dues discount? You can't get both but you'll probably get neither.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

henryn said:

Women are more likely to need help in deciding what car to purchase, but they tend to be swayed by the color (exterior more than interior). Men more often need help with financing and math.

I just had a fun time with SiriusXM. Again. They autorenewed on the minivan at $123 for 6 months, and I didn't even know it until the Amex bill came in. So I call, renegotiate, get 12 months for $108. I really really hate their business practices.

That is EXACLY why I refuse to give them my CC number. Can't tell you how many times they have told me my life would be so much easier renewing that way. I like XM and I gladly pay the $2 invoice mailing fee. That is what makes my life easier.

jmonroe

ruking1

roadburner said:

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
If you had comprehended one of my previous posts, you would realize it may never need replacement.
It's just something that should be and can easily be checked if you are looking at one of those cars.

Yeh, well, what if some poor moron takes his car in for service and they tell him he should replace his air filter, so he says sure go ahead. And then he gets the bill with a $100 air filter on it. And, I still don't get what that filter could possibly made out of to make it worth that much....probably not corrugated cardboard I hope!

Yesterday I spent all of fifteen minutes installing an engine air filter and a cabin air filter in the Clubman; using OEM Mann filters from FCP Euro the cost was a budget-busting $30.90. 

Isn’t it grand?

It’s truly pretty much the SOS, same stuff. It’s the air, oil, cabin, fuel, filters, oil (7L) change. Topping the fluids, rotating tires (my case, 5,000 miles) , etc., etc., are important. The factory vs REAL vs actual are the next parameters.

So for example, I’ve run $10/12 TDI air filters/120,000 miles. CPMD =$ .0001 (scheduled) maintenance. If anybody is afraid, one can always run UOA’s.(dirt/silicon in oil.)

I’ve bought oil filters for as much as $2.00. For another example, if I run a 20,000 miles OCI’S = $.0001 CPMD.

graphicguy

@oldfarmer50 ...I’m thinking you have tripled “Scotty’s” viewership singlehandedly. He owes you a hefty commission.

CLAYING CARS....I’ve done it...lots of times. I personally feel it’s of dubious benefit for a new car (regardless of what the clay fanatics say about rail dust). But, on a car that’s never seen a night in a garage and rarely washed? Probably not a bad idea. Particularly useful on a car with paint overspray, sap, tar, and/or pollen on the finish.

Key? Use plenty of lube (can I say that in here?)!

ab348

henryn said:

I just had a fun time with SiriusXM. Again. They autorenewed on the minivan at $123 for 6 months, and I didn't even know it until the Amex bill came in. So I call, renegotiate, get 12 months for $108. I really really hate their business practices.

Do what I and many others have done. Drop them until they change their evil ways.

snakeweasel

jmonroe1 said:

This is my 15,000th post. 

What are you looking for, a medal or a dues discount? You can't get both but you'll probably get neither. jmonroe

looking for my 15k post lapel pin.

snakeweasel

Not only that but I want to see how fast I can get to 20k.

snakeweasel

4,997 to go.

tjc78

graphicguy said:

@oldfarmer50 ...I’m thinking you have tripled “Scotty’s” viewership singlehandedly. He owes you a hefty commission.

CLAYING CARS....I’ve done it...lots of times. I personally feel it’s of dubious benefit for a new car (regardless of what the clay fanatics say about rail dust). But, on a car that’s never seen a night in a garage and rarely washed? Probably not a bad idea. Particularly useful on a car with paint overspray, sap, tar, and/or pollen on the finish.

Key? Use plenty of lube (can I say that in here?)!

I did my 04 Grand Marquis when I got it in 2012. It really helped. The wax went on much easier and for an 8 year old car it shined up very nice.

imidazol97

snakeweasel said:

This is my 15,000th post. 

Why does it say "15003" posts on your message?

qbrozen

oldfarmer50 said:

I really like some of the Nissan offerings like the Rogue and especially the Altima ...

This makes me sad and baffled all at once.

snakeweasel

imidazol97 said:

This is my 15,000th post. 

Why does it say "15003" posts on your message?

Not sure why that is, cant be because I made 3 posts after I posted that (4 with this post).

henryn

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

I really like some of the Nissan offerings like the Rogue and especially the Altima ...

This makes me sad and baffled all at once.

I almost bought an Altima, back around 2014. I could have gotten an Altima with the V6 for about $6k less than a V6 Camry and $7.5k less than a V6 Accord. It was a very good deal, and I almost pulled the trigger.

henryn

graphicguy said:

CLAYING CARS....I’ve done it...lots of times. I personally feel it’s of dubious benefit for a new car (regardless of what the clay fanatics say about rail dust). But, on a car that’s never seen a night in a garage and rarely washed? Probably not a bad idea. Particularly useful on a car with paint overspray, sap, tar, and/or pollen on the finish.

Key? Use plenty of lube (can I say that in here?)!

I have claybar'ed a few cars. I agree that it's really only necessary on older cars that haven't been kept waxed, and even then a good power buffing is better. There's a guy in my neighborhood, retired now, who used to work at a new car dealership. For $75, he will buff out a car and make it very shiny again.

henryn

ab348 said:

henryn said:

I just had a fun time with SiriusXM. Again. They autorenewed on the minivan at $123 for 6 months, and I didn't even know it until the Amex bill came in. So I call, renegotiate, get 12 months for $108. I really really hate their business practices.

Do what I and many others have done. Drop them until they change their evil ways.

The problem is that I do like their service. And I find it to be worth $9 a month. Not $20, but $9, yes. The problem is what you have to go through to get that $9 price. Very shady business practices, in my opinion.

If they had any real competition, then I would switch.

qbrozen

henryn said:

I almost bought an Altima, back around 2014. I could have gotten an Altima with the V6 for about $6k less than a V6 Camry and $7.5k less than a V6 Accord. It was a very good deal, and I almost pulled the trigger.

And yet, you didn't. Even in the face of saving $6k, the car wasn't good enough.

jmonroe1

qbrozen said:

henryn said:

I almost bought an Altima, back around 2014. I could have gotten an Altima with the V6 for about $6k less than a V6 Camry and $7.5k less than a V6 Accord. It was a very good deal, and I almost pulled the trigger.

And yet, you didn't. Even in the face of saving $6k, the car wasn't good enough.

Maybe it wasn't Black.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

venture said:

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
If you had comprehended one of my previous posts, you would realize it may never need replacement.
It's just something that should be and can easily be checked if you are looking at one of those cars.

In all likelihood my guy will probably shoot down any car I come up with. When people say they want help picking out a car what they really mean is they want you to approve of whatever they pick out.

I won't go with people to look at cars any more. Some because of what you said, and others because you get no recognition if a car works out OK, but you get blamed if it's not a good car - like you knew that and kept it from them.

Since I have you here, I will change the subject.

As you may know I'm pretty close to trading in Mrs. j's 2012 Legacy 3.6R Limited for an equivalent 2018 (used with 7K miles) or 2019 new. I know you have the 2018 model but I wanted to get your opinion about the CVT. The 2012 has a 5 speed automatic and I'm used to feeling the shifting of a transmission. Just curious how long it took you to get used to the CVT and if you have any regrets. I'm almost on the fence because of that. I know a CVT is going to be the standard with all manufactures and I won't really have a choice but just asking.

If any of you other guys want to chime in on a CVT, have at it.

jmonroe

ruking1

In the meantime, you and the Mrs. should operate the CVT for acceptability. The CVT as standard is driven by cheaper unit cost.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

I really like some of the Nissan offerings like the Rogue and especially the Altima ...

This makes me sad and baffled all at once.

What confuses you? Not saying I’d give up my Mustang for either one but at least when new (where my experience is) they seem to do what they’re designed to do.

I’d like to hear your impressions of them.

oldfarmer50

henryn said:

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

I really like some of the Nissan offerings like the Rogue and especially the Altima ...

This makes me sad and baffled all at once.

I almost bought an Altima, back around 2014. I could have gotten an Altima with the V6 for about $6k less than a V6 Camry and $7.5k less than a V6 Accord. It was a very good deal, and I almost pulled the trigger.

What did you buy instead and what about the Altima turned you off? I’ve driven the Altima and the Camary and prefer the driving dynamics of the Nissan.

stickguy

I test drove a 3.6 OB and did not really notice the CVT at all. I think it might be more do with the 4 banger engine, but the legacies I drove were fine.

Key is, I doubt mrs JM will notice, and that’s all that matters.

oldfarmer50

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
If you had comprehended one of my previous posts, you would realize it may never need replacement.
It's just something that should be and can easily be checked if you are looking at one of those cars.

In all likelihood my guy will probably shoot down any car I come up with. When people say they want help picking out a car what they really mean is they want you to approve of whatever they pick out.

I won't go with people to look at cars any more. Some because of what you said, and others because you get no recognition if a car works out OK, but you get blamed if it's not a good car - like you knew that and kept it from them.

Since I have you here, I will change the subject.

As you may know I'm pretty close to trading in Mrs. j's 2012 Legacy 3.6R Limited for an equivalent 2018 (used with 7K miles) or 2019 new. I know you have the 2018 model but I wanted to get your opinion about the CVT. The 2012 has a 5 speed automatic and I'm used to feeling the shifting of a transmission. Just curious how long it took you to get used to the CVT and if you have any regrets. I'm almost on the fence because of that. I know a CVT is going to be the standard with all manufactures and I won't really have a choice but just asking.

If any of you other guys want to chime in on a CVT, have at it.

jmonroe

I drive a lot of cars with CVTs and to be honest, I can’t tell the difference. Modern auto transmissions shift so smoothly you can hardly feel it anyway. My problem with CVTs is reliability.

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

I test drove a 3.6 OB and did not really notice the CVT at all. I think it might be more do with the 4 banger engine, but the legacies I drove were fine.

Key is, I doubt mrs JM will notice, and that’s all that matters.

You're right. She doesn't know anything about transmissions and as long as her car keeps going she's happy. Not a car person in the least.

jmonroe

carnaught

Except for getting a little buzzy and sounding strained when accelerating, today’s CVT’s are quite good for what they are.

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
If you had comprehended one of my previous posts, you would realize it may never need replacement.
It's just something that should be and can easily be checked if you are looking at one of those cars.

In all likelihood my guy will probably shoot down any car I come up with. When people say they want help picking out a car what they really mean is they want you to approve of whatever they pick out.

I won't go with people to look at cars any more. Some because of what you said, and others because you get no recognition if a car works out OK, but you get blamed if it's not a good car - like you knew that and kept it from them.

Since I have you here, I will change the subject.

As you may know I'm pretty close to trading in Mrs. j's 2012 Legacy 3.6R Limited for an equivalent 2018 (used with 7K miles) or 2019 new. I know you have the 2018 model but I wanted to get your opinion about the CVT. The 2012 has a 5 speed automatic and I'm used to feeling the shifting of a transmission. Just curious how long it took you to get used to the CVT and if you have any regrets. I'm almost on the fence because of that. I know a CVT is going to be the standard with all manufactures and I won't really have a choice but just asking.

If any of you other guys want to chime in on a CVT, have at it.

jmonroe

I drive a lot of cars with CVTs and to be honest, I can’t tell the difference. Modern auto transmissions shift so smoothly you can hardly feel it anyway. My problem with CVTs is reliability.

All I need is a reliability problem.

As you regulars know, her 2005 XG350 blew an engine with around 43K miles in November of 2011. That is how she came by the 2012 Subie. When I got my '09 Genny she had a 2006 Sonata pretty well equipped and it even had bum warmers but I traded her Sonata because the XG350 was a softer ride that she seemed to like when she got into it when it was my car. She didn't dislike her Sonata just thought the XG350 rode better. After she had the XG350, I heard a couple times, "you traded my car to get a new car for you and your old car didn't even have heated seats." :@ Then when it blew up I heard a few times, "I bet my Sonata wouldn't have broken down on me". :@ :@ Now you're scaring the hell out of me about CVT reliability problems. If I get that Subie with the CVT and all of a sudden you never hear from me again, you'll know it broke down while she was driving it.

Maybe I shouldn't be pushing this trade so much.

jmonroe

ruking1

Check ones rubber bands? https://www.carfax.com/blog/CVT-pros-and-cons

driver100

abacomike said:

We are under a “gale warning” effective at 4:00 PM this afternoon until tomorrow afternoon with small craft advisories in effect through Friday morning.  There is a front moving down the peninsula and is expected to pass through South Florida this afternoon.

I would think Driver100 is experiencing some windy conditions now.  Weather this year sure has been strange.

The rain came on shore just south of us....near Bradenton. We got a few strong winds at about 12:10, just as we finished playing tennis. We have had no rain this week, but the Miami Open tennis matches have been delayed almost every day...because of rain.
Temps should be near 80 until we leave in 5 days. Home will be around 40F.

driver100

stickguy said:

I love Scotty. He's fun.

He is fun, not sure whether to believe most of what he says, and i wish he would get a voice box transplant....the voice is the annoying part!

driver100

abacomike said:

A merger of Renault and Nissan with Fiat-Chrysler close behind reminds be of “...The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly...” with Nissan being the good, Fiat-Chrysler the Bad and  Renault being The Ugly!  I wonder if Clint Eastwood is considering “Directing” that merger? 😋😜🤪

Better than the 3 Stooges!

driver100

ab348 said:

I had a lot of those Impalas as rentals before I retired. Could never warm up to them.

My BIL has one exactly the same....even same color. He says he wouldn't buy another one. I haven't driven it, but as a passenger I don't think it is designed great. I feel like I am in a pit, and outward vision isn't great. I do know he spent a lot on getting the heater fixed, and other repairs he doesn't talk about much.

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

This is my 15,000th post. 

What are you looking for, a medal or a dues discount? You can't get both but you'll probably get neither.

jmonroe

Says the guy with 606 posts :@

driver100

qbrozen said:

henryn said:

I almost bought an Altima, back around 2014. I could have gotten an Altima with the V6 for about $6k less than a V6 Camry and $7.5k less than a V6 Accord. It was a very good deal, and I almost pulled the trigger.

And yet, you didn't. Even in the face of saving $6k, the car wasn't good enough.

I don't get what purpose in life a Nissan fulfills. Why not buy a Toyota, Honda, Kia or Hyundai instead? They seem to be better made and look better. The people who buy them seem to be people who know nothing about cars......or like the lower price point. I think you end up paying for that in the end...more repairs, higher depreciation.

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
If you had comprehended one of my previous posts, you would realize it may never need replacement.
It's just something that should be and can easily be checked if you are looking at one of those cars.

In all likelihood my guy will probably shoot down any car I come up with. When people say they want help picking out a car what they really mean is they want you to approve of whatever they pick out.

I won't go with people to look at cars any more. Some because of what you said, and others because you get no recognition if a car works out OK, but you get blamed if it's not a good car - like you knew that and kept it from them.

Since I have you here, I will change the subject.

As you may know I'm pretty close to trading in Mrs. j's 2012 Legacy 3.6R Limited for an equivalent 2018 (used with 7K miles) or 2019 new. I know you have the 2018 model but I wanted to get your opinion about the CVT. The 2012 has a 5 speed automatic and I'm used to feeling the shifting of a transmission. Just curious how long it took you to get used to the CVT and if you have any regrets. I'm almost on the fence because of that. I know a CVT is going to be the standard with all manufactures and I won't really have a choice but just asking.

If any of you other guys want to chime in on a CVT, have at it.

jmonroe

One thing I would say....give it a real long test drive first. That CVT is very controversial, some people complain about the drone noise. More complicated = more could go wrong. But, your Mrs JM probably won't notice the missing gear shifts, and you don't keep cars that long that it should be a problem mechanically.

Why not talk her into a black Altima....then you can borrow it as a chick magnet.

venture

henryn said:

Women are more likely to need help in deciding what car to purchase, but they tend to be swayed by the color (exterior more than interior). Men more often need help with financing and math.

I just had a fun time with SiriusXM. Again. They autorenewed on the minivan at $123 for 6 months, and I didn't even know it until the Amex bill came in. So I call, renegotiate, get 12 months for $108. I really really hate their business practices.

They renewed mine even though they didn't have a credit card number. They sent an email. I objected, they insisted, I paid something like $8 just to shut them up, and cancelled.

stickguy

People buy nissans because they are cheaper with a few more goodies than a Toyota or Honda comparable model (usually) is my assumption.

oldfarmer50

jmonroe1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
If you had comprehended one of my previous posts, you would realize it may never need replacement.
It's just something that should be and can easily be checked if you are looking at one of those cars.

In all likelihood my guy will probably shoot down any car I come up with. When people say they want help picking out a car what they really mean is they want you to approve of whatever they pick out.

I won't go with people to look at cars any more. Some because of what you said, and others because you get no recognition if a car works out OK, but you get blamed if it's not a good car - like you knew that and kept it from them.

Since I have you here, I will change the subject.

As you may know I'm pretty close to trading in Mrs. j's 2012 Legacy 3.6R Limited for an equivalent 2018 (used with 7K miles) or 2019 new. I know you have the 2018 model but I wanted to get your opinion about the CVT. The 2012 has a 5 speed automatic and I'm used to feeling the shifting of a transmission. Just curious how long it took you to get used to the CVT and if you have any regrets. I'm almost on the fence because of that. I know a CVT is going to be the standard with all manufactures and I won't really have a choice but just asking.

If any of you other guys want to chime in on a CVT, have at it.

jmonroe

I drive a lot of cars with CVTs and to be honest, I can’t tell the difference. Modern auto transmissions shift so smoothly you can hardly feel it anyway. My problem with CVTs is reliability.

All I need is a reliability problem.

As you regulars know, her 2005 XG350 blew an engine with around 43K miles in November of 2011. That is how she came by the 2012 Subie. When I got my '09 Genny she had a 2006 Sonata pretty well equipped and it even had bum warmers but I traded her Sonata because the XG350 was a softer ride that she seemed to like when she got into it when it was my car. She didn't dislike her Sonata just thought the XG350 rode better. After she had the XG350, I heard a couple times, "you traded my car to get a new car for you and your old car didn't even have heated seats." :@ Then when it blew up I heard a few times, "I bet my Sonata wouldn't have broken down on me". :@ :@ Now you're scaring the hell out of me about CVT reliability problems. If I get that Subie with the CVT and all of a sudden you never hear from me again, you'll know it broke down while she was driving it.

Maybe I shouldn't be pushing this trade so much.

jmonroe

I did some checking and even though Subie used Jatco conventional trannies they build their own CVTs. Take that info for what is worth.

venture

jmonroe1 said:

henryn said:

Women are more likely to need help in deciding what car to purchase, but they tend to be swayed by the color (exterior more than interior). Men more often need help with financing and math.

I just had a fun time with SiriusXM. Again. They autorenewed on the minivan at $123 for 6 months, and I didn't even know it until the Amex bill came in. So I call, renegotiate, get 12 months for $108. I really really hate their business practices.

That is EXACLY why I refuse to give them my CC number. Can't tell you how many times they have told me my life would be so much easier renewing that way. I like XM and I gladly pay the $2 invoice mailing fee. That is what makes my life easier.

jmonroe

One time, back when I still had it, they wanted to charge me the $2 to mail an invoice. I told them that they had already mailed me 3 times about renewing so they could mail an invoice for free too. They did.

stickguy

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

I love Scotty. He's fun.

He is fun, not sure whether to believe most of what he says, and i wish he would get a voice box transplant....the voice is the annoying part!

Sure, his shtick can be silly and his voice is something else, but mostly he has good points. He also has other posts where he actually fixes stuff, so not just ramblings about which cars suck.

jmonroe1

venture said:

jmonroe1 said:

henryn said:

Women are more likely to need help in deciding what car to purchase, but they tend to be swayed by the color (exterior more than interior). Men more often need help with financing and math.

I just had a fun time with SiriusXM. Again. They autorenewed on the minivan at $123 for 6 months, and I didn't even know it until the Amex bill came in. So I call, renegotiate, get 12 months for $108. I really really hate their business practices.

That is EXACLY why I refuse to give them my CC number. Can't tell you how many times they have told me my life would be so much easier renewing that way. I like XM and I gladly pay the $2 invoice mailing fee. That is what makes my life easier.

jmonroe

One time, back when I still had it, they wanted to charge me the $2 to mail an invoice. I told them that they had already mailed me 3 times about renewing so they could mail an invoice for free too. They did.

Dammit, they've been screwing me for about 8 years now. :@

jmonroe

venture

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

@driver100,
If you had comprehended one of my previous posts, you would realize it may never need replacement.
It's just something that should be and can easily be checked if you are looking at one of those cars.

In all likelihood my guy will probably shoot down any car I come up with. When people say they want help picking out a car what they really mean is they want you to approve of whatever they pick out.

I won't go with people to look at cars any more. Some because of what you said, and others because you get no recognition if a car works out OK, but you get blamed if it's not a good car - like you knew that and kept it from them.

Since I have you here, I will change the subject.

As you may know I'm pretty close to trading in Mrs. j's 2012 Legacy 3.6R Limited for an equivalent 2018 (used with 7K miles) or 2019 new. I know you have the 2018 model but I wanted to get your opinion about the CVT. The 2012 has a 5 speed automatic and I'm used to feeling the shifting of a transmission. Just curious how long it took you to get used to the CVT and if you have any regrets. I'm almost on the fence because of that. I know a CVT is going to be the standard with all manufactures and I won't really have a choice but just asking.

If any of you other guys want to chime in on a CVT, have at it.

jmonroe

I drove a few cars a couple of years ago with a CVT and didn't care for them at all. The one my in Legacy has fake shift points and they did a fantastic job with it. Unless you are aware and paying attention, you can't tell.

I would prefer a manual, but they are hard to get and my wife would go nuts (I almost brought a manual WRX home the last time - until I came to my senses).

Go drive one. I suspect you will be surprised. I assume the one in the 3.6 is the same as the 4 cylinder, but better check first. Drive what you are thinking about buying.

You do know, don't you, that the Legacy and Outback will be built on the new global platform for 2020? All new, but as Subaru does, you probably won't be able to tell by looking at it unless you really know Subaru's or are looking at them side by side.

abacomike

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