Yeah, I would walk away. without even knowing exactly what it needs, I can guarantee it will be nosebleed expensive. Maybe if this was SoCal where nothing was affordable, but in an area that should have reasonable prices, why take the risk?
Really need an experienced engineer to look at it. But, around here, standard is to get the pipes under the foundation leading into a sump pump hole. And around the bottom of the walls, on the exterior, drain tile (pipe) tied into that. All the below grade exterior walls are also lined/painted to waterproof them. And of course, eaves/gutters/grading to keep the water away from the foundation in the first place.
You can do it after the fact. And it the foundation is exposed, might save something on the exterior portion. But that does not help much if it has no place to go.
At this point I am done with basements. Nothing but trouble. A place for my wife people to collect endless amounts of junk, and a magnet for water leakage. Put a house on a slab above grade, and much less to worry about!
Basements have a redeeming quality in tornado country. A very popular style of house in my area is called a reverse 1 1/2 story. One or two bedrooms on main level, incl. the master, and 2 or 3 bedrooms and rec room in walkout basement. Lot needs to slope from front to back to accomodate the walk out. This is what we have.
Had a smaller tornado damage 10-15 homes in my neighborhood about 6 years ago. Pulled one house off its foundation. We have a finished walkout basement, so yeah, there is some comfort in that respect. ;-)
Since everyone has been showing off their trunks lately I decided to post mine. Mrs D went to Costco earlier while I played tennis, so these are only bags from the grocery store. Usually there are about 6 plastic bags and 3 or 4 bags of Costco stuff. They just float around back there, can't say I have ever had anything roll around or break. My car is kept fairly neat and clean, but, I don't care if things are a little out of place.
A few extra tennis caps too....and I think an extra racquet lying in there too.
What does that have to do with @jipster's daughter buying a one hundred year old problem house?
jmonroe
Nothing really, but I know nothing about house foundations, I do know how to put groceries into the trunk of my car.
I would be worried in the basement that the house would blow down and everything would just collapse into the hole I was hiding in!
That's why the searches in this area during the night were so critical looking for people trapped in small safer areas within the house or in basements. And searching like that is so hard for first responders because of the darkness after the power is out.
Anybody know anything about foundation wall replacement? Daughter looking at a house where the basement wall was replaced with cinder blocks, due to water damage. The outside trench wasn't refilled. A drainage pipe wasn't installed. Agent doesn't know squat. Nothing I can find on the internet. You guys are my last hope. :-(
Anybody know anything about foundation wall replacement? Daughter looking at a house where the basement wall was replaced with cinder blocks, due to water damage. The outside trench wasn't refilled. A drainage pipe wasn't installed. Agent doesn't know squat. Nothing I can find on the internet. You guys are my last hope. :-(
First off, I'm sure you mean "concrete block" not "cinder block". I don't think they even make "cinder block" anymore. Cinder block is black since it's made from cinders. It is as porous as a sive and is not structurally sound. Was only intended to be used as a partition wall that does not bare weight. Now that I've gotten over one of my pet peeves, here is what I think:
Count your blessings that it wasn't back filled because this now gives you the chance to call in an expert. I'm positive that if the wall is structurally sound, you'll be told it should be waterproofed with a quality spray on goop and then covered with a solid waterproof barrier. Then drained and properly back filled with gravel. This ain't going to be cheap.
Now having said that, I'd run as fast as I could from this one hundred year old house. If you don't, you're going to have trouble with every nail you drive and every screw you try to sink and I ain't even touched on the plumbing and electrical nightmare's you're going to have.The only people who should even think about buying a one hundred year old house are guys in that biz and most of them won't do it again if they are being honest about it.
There, I've said it, and I'm glad I got it off my chest. Now it's up to you or should I say your daughter.
jmonroe
Maybe it's a regionally thing, but we've always called concrete block "cinder block". Grey hollow concrete blocks that does.look quite porous. The inside of that repaired foundation wall was.lightly painted, and it looked.like cinder block. Pourous, not smooth. But, that doesn't make sense. There was some rubble on that outside wall, broken blocks, can't really recall exactly what they looked like.
.So the contractors did the bare.minimum on that.foundation wall? Any upgrades need to be made by buyer? LOL.
I suppose the house was jacked up to do this repair. The basement door was jammed so tight you couldn't open it. Kitchen door was really tight too. The electrical looked.o.k. Circuit breaker box fairly new. Newly remodeled kitchen, bathroom, floors, carpet. But, a lot.of broken and cracked concerns. Daughter is still thinking about it..I'm still advising to walk...or run.... away.
There has to be a story that the buyer can get on how and why the trench is open. Might check city for permits issued if that's a permit type that's required.
Also, I've seen Newport. My long time buddy lived in Newport. That "hill" can be fairly steep or can be a mild slope, judged in Western Ohio/Eastern Central Indiana values. Either way, I'd think about slumping of the hillside as well. Not knowing what's underneath the overburden or dirt, there could be movement of a whole area. Take a look at properties above and below this house to see if there are any signs of earth shifting.
In Cincinnati area, this spring has been catastrophic for the hillsides above a 4-lane thoroughfare dug into the side of the hill on north bank of the river (Columbia Parkway) because of gravity. Several landslides have closed the parkway this spring.
Lots of rain has kept the earth above the parkway soaked over a period of time, and gravity takes over. You ca't beat Mother Nature. Those rains and soaked earth may have affected this Newport house.
. Don't buy problems. Don't trust the real estate broker. When I sold my condo, the broker didn't want to know a French drain had been installed because the 4-unit building had cracked right at my basement window behind the insulation as the building settled during first or second year.
In car terms: the house has a salvage title in my opinion. Would you buy a wreck where you can't even look at the underside and can't determine what happened in the accident?
The agent said the foundation wall repair.came with a lifetime warranty.Said he could get the open trench ,filled in. But,why didn't they do it in the first place? I told my daughter to try to get more info on that repair, but her agent hasnt.followed thru. He's a new guy,
Property below this house was a bit more level. Neighbors on the side of house looked to have the same type of cracking and some crumbling concrete.
Anybody know anything about foundation wall replacement? Daughter looking at a house where the basement wall was replaced with cinder blocks, due to water damage. The outside trench wasn't refilled. A drainage pipe wasn't installed. Agent doesn't know squat. Nothing I can find on the internet. You guys are my last hope. :-(
Are sump pumps a thing where you live? Here in Colorado, we have one for our house to collect and drain the water that accumulates around the perimeter of the house. It's an electric pump and we've extended the drainage pipe so it expels into the front yard.
Well, that's what I was thinking when we looked at the house the other day. This is in Newport, Kentucky by the way. The 100 year old house is on a hill. I'm thinking the foundation wall was damaged, then leaked, thru soil and water pressure. And there is no sump pump?
To me this looked like the contractors walked off the job before it was completed, OR, the trench wasn't refilled with dirt and drainage... for some unknown reason to me.
I suppose being at the top of the hill is better than being at the bottom, when it comes to water...
There aren't many 100 year old houses in Colorado, so I'm not sure how much help I can be...
The house is actually about on the middle of said hill. So halfway between good and bad. ;-)
What is the address? If it’s on a hill in Newport, I’m probably within a mile of there. Is it listed with a realtor?
Also, if the basement floor is below the water table, it wouldn’t need a sump pump
Sorry, it's actually in Dayton...right by Newport.
514 10th Avenue. Dayton, Kentucky. mLS #525965 I tried to pull it up but couldn't find it. RE Max Affiliates has it listed. Feel free to post a link.
Yes, there was a door below the water table. Guess just open that door and let the water run out? LOL.
Anybody know anything about foundation wall replacement? Daughter looking at a house where the basement wall was replaced with cinder blocks, due to water damage. The outside trench wasn't refilled. A drainage pipe wasn't installed. Agent doesn't know squat. Nothing I can find on the internet. You guys are my last hope. :-(
Are sump pumps a thing where you live? Here in Colorado, we have one for our house to collect and drain the water that accumulates around the perimeter of the house. It's an electric pump and we've extended the drainage pipe so it expels into the front yard.
Well, that's what I was thinking when we looked at the house the other day. This is in Newport, Kentucky by the way. The 100 year old house is on a hill. I'm thinking the foundation wall was damaged, then leaked, thru soil and water pressure. And there is no sump pump?
To me this looked like the contractors walked off the job before it was completed, OR, the trench wasn't refilled with dirt and drainage... for some unknown reason to me.
I suppose being at the top of the hill is better than being at the bottom, when it comes to water...
There aren't many 100 year old houses in Colorado, so I'm not sure how much help I can be...
The house is actually about on the middle of said hill. So halfway between good and bad. ;-)
What is the address? If it’s on a hill in Newport, I’m probably within a mile of there. Is it listed with a realtor?
Also, if the basement floor is below the water table, it wouldn’t need a sump pump
Sorry, it's actually in Dayton...right by Newport.
514 10th Avenue. Dayton, Kentucky. mLS #525965 I tried to pull it up but couldn't find it. RE Max Affiliates has it listed. Feel free to post a link.
Yes, there was a door below the water table. Guess just open that door and let the water run out? LOL.
Anybody know anything about foundation wall replacement? Daughter looking at a house where the basement wall was replaced with cinder blocks, due to water damage. The outside trench wasn't refilled. A drainage pipe wasn't installed. Agent doesn't know squat. Nothing I can find on the internet. You guys are my last hope. :-(
Are sump pumps a thing where you live? Here in Colorado, we have one for our house to collect and drain the water that accumulates around the perimeter of the house. It's an electric pump and we've extended the drainage pipe so it expels into the front yard.
Well, that's what I was thinking when we looked at the house the other day. This is in Newport, Kentucky by the way. The 100 year old house is on a hill. I'm thinking the foundation wall was damaged, then leaked, thru soil and water pressure. And there is no sump pump?
To me this looked like the contractors walked off the job before it was completed, OR, the trench wasn't refilled with dirt and drainage... for some unknown reason to me.
I suppose being at the top of the hill is better than being at the bottom, when it comes to water...
There aren't many 100 year old houses in Colorado, so I'm not sure how much help I can be...
The house is actually about on the middle of said hill. So halfway between good and bad. ;-)
What is the address? If it’s on a hill in Newport, I’m probably within a mile of there. Is it listed with a realtor?
Also, if the basement floor is below the water table, it wouldn’t need a sump pump
Sorry, it's actually in Dayton...right by Newport.
514 10th Avenue. Dayton, Kentucky. mLS #525965 I tried to pull it up but couldn't find it. RE Max Affiliates has it listed. Feel free to post a link.
Yes, there was a door below the water table. Guess just open that door and let the water run out? LOL.
cute little place. I notice they don't mention which show, and don't show any shots of the foundation trench. But, cute little place inside so I can see why she likes it. Nice view of the city. And the price, for someone in the NE, is depressing. Really depends of course what you have to pay to finish what needs to be done.
I am not a fan of living on a big slope like that where your neighbors are higher and lower than you are.
The pic of the backyard shows the slope quite well. Even if the foundation was perfect, I wouldn’t want that house. I can see the water coming in from here.
Anybody know anything about foundation wall replacement? Daughter looking at a house where the basement wall was replaced with cinder blocks, due to water damage. The outside trench wasn't refilled. A drainage pipe wasn't installed. Agent doesn't know squat. Nothing I can find on the internet. You guys are my last hope. :-(
Are sump pumps a thing where you live? Here in Colorado, we have one for our house to collect and drain the water that accumulates around the perimeter of the house. It's an electric pump and we've extended the drainage pipe so it expels into the front yard.
Well, that's what I was thinking when we looked at the house the other day. This is in Newport, Kentucky by the way. The 100 year old house is on a hill. I'm thinking the foundation wall was damaged, then leaked, thru soil and water pressure. And there is no sump pump?
To me this looked like the contractors walked off the job before it was completed, OR, the trench wasn't refilled with dirt and drainage... for some unknown reason to me.
I suppose being at the top of the hill is better than being at the bottom, when it comes to water...
There aren't many 100 year old houses in Colorado, so I'm not sure how much help I can be...
The house is actually about on the middle of said hill. So halfway between good and bad. ;-)
What is the address? If it’s on a hill in Newport, I’m probably within a mile of there. Is it listed with a realtor?
Also, if the basement floor is below the water table, it wouldn’t need a sump pump
Sorry, it's actually in Dayton...right by Newport.
514 10th Avenue. Dayton, Kentucky. mLS #525965 I tried to pull it up but couldn't find it. RE Max Affiliates has it listed. Feel free to post a link.
Yes, there was a door below the water table. Guess just open that door and let the water run out? LOL.
My daughter is thinking about making an offer. Agent suggested $120k plus closing cost. I said if you want to make an offer, offer around $105k. Trying to get an engineer friend to look at it. The house was bought for 42k 6 months ago.
The pic of the backyard shows the slope quite well. Even if the foundation was perfect, I wouldn’t want that house. I can see the water coming in from here.
lol.. I was going to say, that's a pretty nice yard for a hillside home.
And, if you are going to have a view of the river/downtown, you almost have to be on a hillside, here. The Ohio River valley is very hilly.. no way around it.
cute little place. I notice they don't mention which show, and don't show any shots of the foundation trench. But, cute little place inside so I can see why she likes it. Nice view of the city. And the price, for someone in the NE, is depressing. Really depends of course what you have to pay to finish what needs to be done.
I am not a fan of living on a big slope like that where your neighbors are higher and lower than you are.
I like the postwar traditional styling of this, along with the garage and the little porch/breezeway between it and the house, along with the originality of the place, probably some original appliances in that kitchen. Sadly, I have a suspicion this place will be knocked down and replaced by yet another tacky mcmodern/faux farmhouse/faux craftsman/faux Tuscan/etc.
I’m constantly amazed by the gas mileage of some of today’s cars. That’s very good mileage for a car with some performance. What engine do you have?
Yes, and the older you are, the farther back you can remember, and the more amazed you are.
Back around 1964, a friend of my fathers came up with an older, used Volkswagen bug. Luther was an auto mechanic, as was my father, and he had by that time opened his own independent shop. I remember him joking about how he had to drain the gas ever so often in that VW as it would go bad before he could use it up. In reality, those things only did low to mid 20's for gas mileage. But of course, over 20 mpg was considered phenomenal.
Luther was an adventurous sort. He took an Oldsmobile V8 complete with automatic transmission and transplanted it into a 1954 Ford pickup. Now that was a really neat thing, I would love to have that truck.
I remember driving a 1974 Charger with 318V8 from upstate NY to Toms River NJ at no more than 50 mph to manage 20 mpg. I thought it quite a feat at the time.
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I like the postwar traditional styling of this, along with the garage and the little porch/breezeway between it and the house, along with the originality of the place, probably some original appliances in that kitchen. Sadly, I have a suspicion this place will be knocked down and replaced by yet another tacky mcmodern/faux farmhouse/faux craftsman/faux Tuscan/etc.
5 bedrooms! Maybe rent a few out to offset those hefty mortgage payments...
Kennedy-era house with mostly Kennedy-era decor. I like originality, but not all that wallpaper and carpeting. I bet the cooktop is original, maybe the fridge too. Beautiful lot location, nice garage and shop space.
Anybody know anything about foundation wall replacement? Daughter looking at a house where the basement wall was replaced with cinder blocks, due to water damage. The outside trench wasn't refilled. A drainage pipe wasn't installed. Agent doesn't know squat. Nothing I can find on the internet. You guys are my last hope. :-(
Why would she consider a house with a foundation damaged by water? If the conditions existed once they can certainly happen again.
Anyhoo, what I know is that foundations can be damaged by water PRESSURE which is a build up off water outside the wall to the point it is literally pushed inward or by water INFILTRATION where water undermines the footings causing the wall to sink.
Both problems can be fixed by installing drainage systems and sump pumps. You need to be able to flow the water to a lower level which can involve excessive digging or mechanical pumping systems. Waterproofing the outside of the foundation is probably required in a high water environment or else you’ll have a damp, even moldy basement.
I don’t know where this house is located (flood plain) but I’d walk away from it. Sounds like nothing but problems.
For me personally, I built my house on 18” of gravel above the surrounding soil, then put perimeter drains around both the exterior and interior of the foundation. Finally, I connected the drains to the underground system that drain my farm fields.
Why buy? My daughter said that the house was really cute with a great view of downtown Cincinnati. LOL. Aside from the foundation, a rusty cast iron drainage.pipe, the a\c wasnt.cooling well on a day where it was only 74 degress,and a huge driveway retaining wall bowing out, some crumbling concrete...the house is really nice.;-) The deal estate as said the house was renovated by a crew from the hgtv show.. A structural engineer inspection is recommended. But my recommendation to my daughter was not to buy it. Does it sound like that foundation wall repair was completed to you?
So the house was renovated and then left with a crumbling foundation? Talk about putting lipstick on a pig.
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There has to be a story that the buyer can get on how and why the trench is open. Might check city for permits issued if that's a permit type that's required.
Also, I've seen Newport. My long time buddy lived in Newport. That "hill" can be fairly steep or can be a mild slope, judged in Western Ohio/Eastern Central Indiana values. Either way, I'd think about slumping of the hillside as well. Not knowing what's underneath the overburden or dirt, there could be movement of a whole area. Take a look at properties above and below this house to see if there are any signs of earth shifting.
In Cincinnati area, this spring has been catastrophic for the hillsides above a 4-lane thoroughfare dug into the side of the hill on north bank of the river (Columbia Parkway) because of gravity. Several landslides have closed the parkway this spring.
Lots of rain has kept the earth above the parkway soaked over a period of time, and gravity takes over. You ca't beat Mother Nature. Those rains and soaked earth may have affected this Newport house.
. Don't buy problems. Don't trust the real estate broker. When I sold my condo, the broker didn't want to know a French drain had been installed because the 4-unit building had cracked right at my basement window behind the insulation as the building settled during first or second year.
In car terms: the house has a salvage title in my opinion. Would you buy a wreck where you can't even look at the underside and can't determine what happened in the accident?
The agent said the foundation wall repair.came with a lifetime warranty.Said he could get the open trench ,filled in. But,why didn't they do it in the first place? I told my daughter to try to get more info on that repair, but her agent hasnt.followed thru. He's a new guy,
Property below this house was a bit more level. Neighbors on the side of house looked to have the same type of cracking and some crumbling concrete.
Wow, now I’m thinking the whole hill is unstable. Time to send your kid to her room for even thinking such crazy thoughts. :@
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Anybody know anything about foundation wall replacement? Daughter looking at a house where the basement wall was replaced with cinder blocks, due to water damage. The outside trench wasn't refilled. A drainage pipe wasn't installed. Agent doesn't know squat. Nothing I can find on the internet. You guys are my last hope. :-(
Are sump pumps a thing where you live? Here in Colorado, we have one for our house to collect and drain the water that accumulates around the perimeter of the house. It's an electric pump and we've extended the drainage pipe so it expels into the front yard.
Well, that's what I was thinking when we looked at the house the other day. This is in Newport, Kentucky by the way. The 100 year old house is on a hill. I'm thinking the foundation wall was damaged, then leaked, thru soil and water pressure. And there is no sump pump?
To me this looked like the contractors walked off the job before it was completed, OR, the trench wasn't refilled with dirt and drainage... for some unknown reason to me.
I suppose being at the top of the hill is better than being at the bottom, when it comes to water...
There aren't many 100 year old houses in Colorado, so I'm not sure how much help I can be...
The house is actually about on the middle of said hill. So halfway between good and bad. ;-)
What is the address? If it’s on a hill in Newport, I’m probably within a mile of there. Is it listed with a realtor?
Also, if the basement floor is below the water table, it wouldn’t need a sump pump
Sorry, it's actually in Dayton...right by Newport.
514 10th Avenue. Dayton, Kentucky. mLS #525965 I tried to pull it up but couldn't find it. RE Max Affiliates has it listed. Feel free to post a link.
Yes, there was a door below the water table. Guess just open that door and let the water run out? LOL.
My daughter is thinking about making an offer. Agent suggested $120k plus closing cost. I said if you want to make an offer, offer around $105k. Trying to get an engineer friend to look at it. The house was bought for 42k 6 months ago.
If she’s that adventurous make any offer contingent on an engineering inspection.
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Rates aren't high here (it's other taxes that get you, in a regressive manner), and there are senior citizen exemptions too, if you meet a certain income threshold. I think my grandma pays under 1K/year.
People in that area would probably lose it and lawyer up if you were renting out rooms. Lovely area, but I suspect neighbors can be busy. Not a fan of all the paper and flooring in the pics, but I can live with the entryway/stairway area, and the weird tile floor in one of the patio door pics. I also prefer hard flooring. I think the fintail would look good parked in front of that house. IIRC the house has no sales history going back 40+ years, and may have been an original owner.
Speaking of floors and paper, I think I shared this before, but it is amusing and worth a repeat. I don't like some of the carpet and wallpaper, but for the most part like this slice of disco era chic.
5 bedrooms! Maybe rent a few out to offset those hefty mortgage payments...
Kennedy-era house with mostly Kennedy-era decor. I like originality, but not all that wallpaper and carpeting. I bet the cooktop is original, maybe the fridge too. Beautiful lot location, nice garage and shop space.
Returned from a nice week in Sea Pines, Hilton Head, SC. It rained a lot but still very enjoyable. Not a good pic, my SIL's new RDX Advance. The build quality is excellent, and the interior first class. Unfortunately I haven't had a ride in it. Little need for cars while we were there, either bicycling or walking.
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
That was the joke I told often about my 71 Vega GT. It used a quart every half tank of gas..about 100 miles. I could count on cleaning spark plug #3 monthly, the others had a nice beige look to them. The car ran well overall and never stranded me.
I had a 70 Dodge Coronet with a slant six that needed a quart of oil every three fill ups.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Yes, and it's now a reality as Michelin has paired up with GM at least with the Bolt.
Can you explain what you mean that Michelin has paired up with GM and the Bolt?
Here is the story. "GM and tire supplier Michelin said Tuesday they formed a joint research agreement to develop and validate the tire supplier's Unique Puncture-proof Tire System, or Uptis, with plans to introduce the tires on passenger vehicles as early as 2024.....Steve Kiefer, senior vice president of GM Global Purchasing and Supply Chain, described it as 'breakthrough technology' that General Motors is 'excited' to partner on with the tire supplier." https://www.autonews.com/suppliers/gm-michelin-plan-deploy-airless-tires
And here is a picture of the first prototype.
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Anybody know anything about foundation wall replacement? Daughter looking at a house where the basement wall was replaced with cinder blocks, due to water damage. The outside trench wasn't refilled. A drainage pipe wasn't installed. Agent doesn't know squat. Nothing I can find on the internet. You guys are my last hope. :-(
Are sump pumps a thing where you live? Here in Colorado, we have one for our house to collect and drain the water that accumulates around the perimeter of the house. It's an electric pump and we've extended the drainage pipe so it expels into the front yard.
Well, that's what I was thinking when we looked at the house the other day. This is in Newport, Kentucky by the way. The 100 year old house is on a hill. I'm thinking the foundation wall was damaged, then leaked, thru soil and water pressure. And there is no sump pump?
To me this looked like the contractors walked off the job before it was completed, OR, the trench wasn't refilled with dirt and drainage... for some unknown reason to me.
I suppose being at the top of the hill is better than being at the bottom, when it comes to water...
There aren't many 100 year old houses in Colorado, so I'm not sure how much help I can be...
The house is actually about on the middle of said hill. So halfway between good and bad. ;-)
What is the address? If it’s on a hill in Newport, I’m probably within a mile of there. Is it listed with a realtor?
Also, if the basement floor is below the water table, it wouldn’t need a sump pump
Sorry, it's actually in Dayton...right by Newport.
514 10th Avenue. Dayton, Kentucky. mLS #525965 I tried to pull it up but couldn't find it. RE Max Affiliates has it listed. Feel free to post a link.
Yes, there was a door below the water table. Guess just open that door and let the water run out? LOL.
I get the view thing. Not the best location, otherwise. No shirt needed for her husband/boyfriend in that neighborhood.
Someone has obviously spent some money on the inside. Wonder if they did all that before they discovered the water problem?
Yeah, that was kind.of my impression upon seeing SOME.of the neighbors and their houses. No shirts? We call them "wife beaters" in Kentucky.(sleeveless shirts) LOL.
But most seem like very nice homes, but then right next to it looks to be something Jed Clampett and Jethro Bodine would live in. Before they struck it rich. Most homes were fairly nice though.
Is that picture the actual view from the front porch? Or, from some other spot, nearby?
Well sir, I was actually wondering the same thing when I went back and.looked at the photos. The view from the.porch seemed to be a bit narrower in real life.Maybe the real estate agent used a wide angle lens? ;-)
Anybody know anything about foundation wall replacement? Daughter looking at a house where the basement wall was replaced with cinder blocks, due to water damage. The outside trench wasn't refilled. A drainage pipe wasn't installed. Agent doesn't know squat. Nothing I can find on the internet. You guys are my last hope. :-(
Why would she consider a house with a foundation damaged by water? If the conditions existed once they can certainly happen again.
Anyhoo, what I know is that foundations can be damaged by water PRESSURE which is a build up off water outside the wall to the point it is literally pushed inward or by water INFILTRATION where water undermines the footings causing the wall to sink.
Both problems can be fixed by installing drainage systems and sump pumps. You need to be able to flow the water to a lower level which can involve excessive digging or mechanical pumping systems. Waterproofing the outside of the foundation is probably required in a high water environment or else you’ll have a damp, even moldy basement.
I don’t know where this house is located (flood plain) but I’d walk away from it. Sounds like nothing but problems.
For me personally, I built my house on 18” of gravel above the surrounding soil, then put perimeter drains around both the exterior and interior of the foundation. Finally, I connected the drains to the underground system that drain my farm fields.
Why buy? My daughter said that the house was really cute with a great view of downtown Cincinnati. LOL. Aside from the foundation, a rusty cast iron drainage.pipe, the a\c wasnt.cooling well on a day where it was only 74 degress,and a huge driveway retaining wall bowing out, some crumbling concrete...the house is really nice.;-) The deal estate as said the house was renovated by a crew from the hgtv show.. A structural engineer inspection is recommended. But my recommendation to my daughter was not to buy it. Does it sound like that foundation wall repair was completed to you?
So the house was renovated and then left with a crumbling foundation? Talk about putting lipstick on a pig.
Yeah, my wife and daughter kept talking about how cute the house was. The remodeled floor, remodeled bathroom new floors, where to put the refrigerator. I'm thinking, "this house is about to collapse into itself...or slide down this hill."
I hated to burst my daughter's bubble by pointing out all of the flaws, but I told her I owed being honest with her. I'd support whatever she decided, but if it were me, I'd pass on the house.....just too many unknowns.
Anybody know anything about foundation wall replacement? Daughter looking at a house where the basement wall was replaced with cinder blocks, due to water damage. The outside trench wasn't refilled. A drainage pipe wasn't installed. Agent doesn't know squat. Nothing I can find on the internet. You guys are my last hope. :-(
Are sump pumps a thing where you live? Here in Colorado, we have one for our house to collect and drain the water that accumulates around the perimeter of the house. It's an electric pump and we've extended the drainage pipe so it expels into the front yard.
Well, that's what I was thinking when we looked at the house the other day. This is in Newport, Kentucky by the way. The 100 year old house is on a hill. I'm thinking the foundation wall was damaged, then leaked, thru soil and water pressure. And there is no sump pump?
To me this looked like the contractors walked off the job before it was completed, OR, the trench wasn't refilled with dirt and drainage... for some unknown reason to me.
I suppose being at the top of the hill is better than being at the bottom, when it comes to water...
There aren't many 100 year old houses in Colorado, so I'm not sure how much help I can be...
The house is actually about on the middle of said hill. So halfway between good and bad. ;-)
What is the address? If it’s on a hill in Newport, I’m probably within a mile of there. Is it listed with a realtor?
Also, if the basement floor is below the water table, it wouldn’t need a sump pump
Sorry, it's actually in Dayton...right by Newport.
514 10th Avenue. Dayton, Kentucky. mLS #525965 I tried to pull it up but couldn't find it. RE Max Affiliates has it listed. Feel free to post a link.
Yes, there was a door below the water table. Guess just open that door and let the water run out? LOL.
My daughter is thinking about making an offer. Agent suggested $120k plus closing cost. I said if you want to make an offer, offer around $105k. Trying to get an engineer friend to look at it. The house was bought for 42k 6 months ago.
If she’s that adventurous make any offer contingent on an engineering inspection.
Yep, that was the original plan. I think lately the pendulum has swung a bit on not buying. Her boyfriend's dad looked at the house and pretty much said what everyone here has said... "RUN AWAY...KEEP RUNNING AND DON'T STOP!!" ; -)
I would be worried in the basement that the house would blow down and everything would just collapse into the hole I was hiding in!
That happened on Utica, Illinois many years ago. A tornado went through and some people in a tavern took shelter in the basement and the whole building collapsed down on them killing them all. However such occurrences are extremely rare as the high winds tend to push the buildings off their foundations.
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The new foundation wall actually looks pretty good.
And, for a neighborhood of 90 yr old houses, that neighbor's retaining wall isn't an unusual occurrence. Probably needed re-done 30 years ago, and they never had the money.
Dayton, KY has been a low-income town for a long, long time. The last time it was "prosperous" was probably in the '50s. It is seeing a resurgence (and, I'm stretching that term), lately, because of the property values rising in Bellevue, next door, and the new development along the river.
That hillside is probably as stable as any around, as there is no development above it. I didn't realize until I mapped it that it was above the railroad tracks. In this case, that is a good thing.
About four blocks West on O'Fallon Ave., they've torn down some old homes and are now building new $500K+ hillside homes with views. I'd worry more about that hillside, where you are cutting into previously undisturbed ground. (and, investing a lot more money).
All that said, I would discourage my child from buying a house in Dayton.
Anybody know anything about foundation wall replacement? Daughter looking at a house where the basement wall was replaced with cinder blocks, due to water damage. The outside trench wasn't refilled. A drainage pipe wasn't installed. Agent doesn't know squat. Nothing I can find on the internet. You guys are my last hope. :-(
First off, I'm sure you mean "concrete block" not "cinder block". I don't think they even make "cinder block" anymore. Cinder block is black since it's made from cinders. It is as porous as a sive and is not structurally sound. Was only intended to be used as a partition wall that does not bare weight. Now that I've gotten over one of my pet peeves, here is what I think:
Count your blessings that it wasn't back filled because this now gives you the chance to call in an expert. I'm positive that if the wall is structurally sound, you'll be told it should be waterproofed with a quality spray on goop and then covered with a solid waterproof barrier. Then drained and properly back filled with gravel. This ain't going to be cheap.
Now having said that, I'd run as fast as I could from this one hundred year old house. If you don't, you're going to have trouble with every nail you drive and every screw you try to sink and I ain't even touched on the plumbing and electrical nightmare's you're going to have.The only people who should even think about buying a one hundred year old house are guys in that biz and most of them won't do it again if they are being honest about it.
There, I've said it, and I'm glad I got it off my chest. Now it's up to you or should I say your daughter.
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Maybe it's a regionally thing, but we've always called concrete block "cinder block". Grey hollow concrete blocks that does.look quite porous. The inside of that repaired foundation wall was.lightly painted, and it looked.like cinder block. Pourous, not smooth. But, that doesn't make sense. There was some rubble on that outside wall, broken blocks, can't really recall exactly what they looked like.
.So the contractors did the bare.minimum on that.foundation wall? Any upgrades need to be made by buyer? LOL.
I suppose the house was jacked up to do this repair. The basement door was jammed so tight you couldn't open it. Kitchen door was really tight too. The electrical looked.o.k. Circuit breaker box fairly new. Newly remodeled kitchen, bathroom, floors, carpet. But, a lot.of broken and cracked concerns. Daughter is still thinking about it..I'm still advising to walk...or run.... away.
Run away from it is right, also burn any bridges you might cross to prevent any possibility of a return trip. Bad foundations are the death of any building and are a fortune to repair.
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.So the contractors did the bare.minimum on that.foundation wall? Any upgrades need to be made by buyer? LOL.
I suppose the house was jacked up to do this repair. The basement door was jammed so tight you couldn't open it. Kitchen door was really tight too. The electrical looked.o.k. Circuit breaker box fairly new. Newly remodeled kitchen, bathroom, floors, carpet. But, a lot.of broken and cracked concerns. Daughter is still thinking about it..I'm still advising to walk...or run.... away.
Property below this house was a bit more level. Neighbors on the side of house looked to have the same type of cracking and some crumbling concrete.
514 10th Avenue. Dayton, Kentucky. mLS #525965 I tried to pull it up but couldn't find it. RE Max Affiliates has it listed. Feel free to post a link.
Yes, there was a door below the water table. Guess just open that door and let the water run out? LOL.
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Someone has obviously spent some money on the inside. Wonder if they did all that before they discovered the water problem?
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I am not a fan of living on a big slope like that where your neighbors are higher and lower than you are.
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And, if you are going to have a view of the river/downtown, you almost have to be on a hillside, here. The Ohio River valley is very hilly.. no way around it.
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Speaking of houses, This place, which I've had my eye on for years, finally hit the market - dang it, I was too slow, already pending.
I like the postwar traditional styling of this, along with the garage and the little porch/breezeway between it and the house, along with the originality of the place, probably some original appliances in that kitchen. Sadly, I have a suspicion this place will be knocked down and replaced by yet another tacky mcmodern/faux farmhouse/faux craftsman/faux Tuscan/etc.
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Speaking of floors and paper, I think I shared this before, but it is amusing and worth a repeat. I don't like some of the carpet and wallpaper, but for the most part like this slice of disco era chic.
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But most seem like very nice homes, but then right next to it looks to be something Jed Clampett and Jethro Bodine would live in. Before they struck it rich. Most homes were fairly nice though.
I hated to burst my daughter's bubble by pointing out all of the flaws, but I told her I owed being honest with her. I'd support whatever she decided, but if it were me, I'd pass on the house.....just too many unknowns.
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And, for a neighborhood of 90 yr old houses, that neighbor's retaining wall isn't an unusual occurrence. Probably needed re-done 30 years ago, and they never had the money.
Dayton, KY has been a low-income town for a long, long time. The last time it was "prosperous" was probably in the '50s. It is seeing a resurgence (and, I'm stretching that term), lately, because of the property values rising in Bellevue, next door, and the new development along the river.
That hillside is probably as stable as any around, as there is no development above it. I didn't realize until I mapped it that it was above the railroad tracks. In this case, that is a good thing.
About four blocks West on O'Fallon Ave., they've torn down some old homes and are now building new $500K+ hillside homes with views. I'd worry more about that hillside, where you are cutting into previously undisturbed ground. (and, investing a lot more money).
All that said, I would discourage my child from buying a house in Dayton.
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