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jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

graphicguy said:

OK...I’ve been gone for a few days and I know the software has changed. But, how do you add a pic to your post?

When you figure it out explain it to me....slowly.

OTOH, I can edit again.

Get ready for a dues bump.


jmonroe

oldfarmer50

jmonroe1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

graphicguy said:

OK...I’ve been gone for a few days and I know the software has changed. But, how do you add a pic to your post?

When you figure it out explain it to me....slowly.

OTOH, I can edit again.

Get ready for a dues bump.


jmonroe

Put it on my tab.

driver100

New for 2020. They look pretty nice and they don't seem to be knock offs.........

fintail

I don't know about knockoffs, but the Telluride styling has a heavy dose of Volvo, at least from the side. I get kind of a GMC-Rover mix from the Palisade.

fintail

I've done it once, Disneyworld, when a longtime friend goaded me into it with cheap airfare and the ability to do other things while I am there. I am not a theme park person. Now that I've done it, I never need to do it again, and I can't imagine that I will.

28firefighter said:

I truly dread the day I have to go to Disney again. My wife tells me it's coming no matter what.

jmonroe1

28firefighter said:

I truly dread the day I have to go to Disney again. My wife tells me it's coming no matter what.

When that time comes buy her another Subie. She'll understand why there isn't enough money to do both.

jmonroe

tjc78

fintail said:

I've done it once, Disneyworld, when a longtime friend goaded me into it with cheap airfare and the ability to do other things while I am there. I am not a theme park person. Now that I've done it, I never need to do it again, and I can't imagine that I will.

28firefighter said:

I truly dread the day I have to go to Disney again. My wife tells me it's coming no matter what.

I know several people that go every year. I’ve been once and assume I’ll have to suck it up and take the kids at least once in the next 3-4 years.

driver100

Good to take kids once when about 6 or more......and then never go again.
I hear more adults go to Disney than kids, because parents go and then people go back when they are older.
Some people make it a yearly event, a few in our complex in Florida go once a year....love the fireworks!
I don't want to go back, I don't want to be near Orlando for any reason, I don't get why people put themselves through that kind of torture. Much rather do a Hop On Hop Off bus and learn about a city, see some Frank Lloyd Wright architecture, see a park like Myakka, read a good book, go to the zoo, wonder around in a market, etc.........

driver100

fintail said:

I don't know about knockoffs, but the Telluride styling has a heavy dose of Volvo, at least from the side. I get kind of a GMC-Rover mix from the Palisade.

I thought the Palisade looked a lot like this;

Chevy.

imidazol97

driver100 said:

New for 2020. They look pretty nice and they don't seem to be knock offs.........

It's clear from where the Palisade style came.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

Good to take kids once when about 6 or more......and then never go again.
I hear more adults go to Disney than kids, because parents go and then people go back when they are older.
Some people make it a yearly event, a few in our complex in Florida go once a year....love the fireworks!
I don't want to go back, I don't want to be near Orlando for any reason, I don't get why people put themselves through that kind of torture. Much rather do a Hop On Hop Off bus and learn about a city, see some Frank Lloyd Wright architecture, see a park like Myakka, read a good book, go to the zoo, wonder around in a market, etc.........

Went to DW maybe 10 years ago and found the lines to be intolerable. Also found the concept of letting the elites pay more to jump ahead in line offputting. I guess as you get older waiting an hour for a two minute ride takes the thrill out of it.

graphicguy

tjc78 said:

graphicguy said:

OK...I’ve been gone for a few days and I know the software has changed. But, how do you add a pic to your post?

I know it's broken on my Iphone... but we aren't allowed to talk about it in this thread we got the hammer dropped on us last week

OK....so it’s broken for many of us. I don’t see the “choose file” button. It only comes up as “add a URL”.

Work in progress (again)?

qbrozen

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

New for 2020. They look pretty nice and they don't seem to be knock offs.........

It's clear from where the Palisade style came.

Yours is definitely close, but this is what I immediately thought of. Still GM.

snakeweasel

tjc78 said:

fintail said:

I've done it once, Disneyworld, when a longtime friend goaded me into it with cheap airfare and the ability to do other things while I am there. I am not a theme park person. Now that I've done it, I never need to do it again, and I can't imagine that I will.

28firefighter said:

I truly dread the day I have to go to Disney again. My wife tells me it's coming no matter what.

I know several people that go every year. I’ve been once and assume I’ll have to suck it up and take the kids at least once in the next 3-4 years.

Our daughter and son in law live in Orlando, my wife always wants to take the grandkids to see the rat. My daughter has to keep telling my wife that they can go anytime and we should do something we would like to do with the grandkids. So far I have avoided the rat trap.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

Good to take kids once when about 6 or more......and then never go again.
I hear more adults go to Disney than kids, because parents go and then people go back when they are older.
Some people make it a yearly event, a few in our complex in Florida go once a year....love the fireworks!
I don't want to go back, I don't want to be near Orlando for any reason, I don't get why people put themselves through that kind of torture. Much rather do a Hop On Hop Off bus and learn about a city, see some Frank Lloyd Wright architecture, see a park like Myakka, read a good book, go to the zoo, wonder around in a market, etc.........

Then you should head on over to Chicago. Great architecture including a bunch of Frank Lloyd Wright homes. Great parks and a couple of zoo's (one free). And the parks along the lake front are awesome.

driver100

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

New for 2020. They look pretty nice and they don't seem to be knock offs.........

It's clear from where the Palisade style came.

That is the one I was thinking of.

driver100

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

New for 2020. They look pretty nice and they don't seem to be knock offs.........

It's clear from where the Palisade style came.

That is the one I was thinking of.

snakeweasel said:

tjc78 said:

fintail said:

I've done it once, Disneyworld, when a longtime friend goaded me into it with cheap airfare and the ability to do other things while I am there. I am not a theme park person. Now that I've done it, I never need to do it again, and I can't imagine that I will.

28firefighter said:

I truly dread the day I have to go to Disney again. My wife tells me it's coming no matter what.

I know several people that go every year. I’ve been once and assume I’ll have to suck it up and take the kids at least once in the next 3-4 years.

Our daughter and son in law live in Orlando, my wife always wants to take the grandkids to see the rat. My daughter has to keep telling my wife that they can go anytime and we should do something we would like to do with the grandkids. So far I have avoided the rat trap.

Someone actually chooses to live in Orlando!

driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

Good to take kids once when about 6 or more......and then never go again.
I hear more adults go to Disney than kids, because parents go and then people go back when they are older.
Some people make it a yearly event, a few in our complex in Florida go once a year....love the fireworks!
I don't want to go back, I don't want to be near Orlando for any reason, I don't get why people put themselves through that kind of torture. Much rather do a Hop On Hop Off bus and learn about a city, see some Frank Lloyd Wright architecture, see a park like Myakka, read a good book, go to the zoo, wonder around in a market, etc.........

Then you should head on over to Chicago. Great architecture including a bunch of Frank Lloyd Wright homes. Great parks and a couple of zoo's (one free). And the parks along the lake front are awesome.

I agree and the FLW buildings in Chicago are definitely on our to-do-soon list. It is hard getting away with an 8 month old puppy....but, we are going as soon as possible. Love Chicago, the Architectural Water Tour, the parks, The Peanut, and the Acme Hotel.

btw....did go to Fallingwater and have seen The Martin House and summer cottage near Buffalo NY. All exceptional and things I will say I am glad I saw. Disney World.....ah, not so much.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

New for 2020. They look pretty nice and they don't seem to be knock offs.........

It's clear from where the Palisade style came.

That is the one I was thinking of.

snakeweasel said:

tjc78 said:

fintail said:

I've done it once, Disneyworld, when a longtime friend goaded me into it with cheap airfare and the ability to do other things while I am there. I am not a theme park person. Now that I've done it, I never need to do it again, and I can't imagine that I will.

28firefighter said:

I truly dread the day I have to go to Disney again. My wife tells me it's coming no matter what.

I know several people that go every year. I’ve been once and assume I’ll have to suck it up and take the kids at least once in the next 3-4 years.

Our daughter and son in law live in Orlando, my wife always wants to take the grandkids to see the rat. My daughter has to keep telling my wife that they can go anytime and we should do something we would like to do with the grandkids. So far I have avoided the rat trap.

Someone actually chooses to live in Orlando!

Yes well over 2 million in the metro area. There's more there than just a fat rat.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

Good to take kids once when about 6 or more......and then never go again.
I hear more adults go to Disney than kids, because parents go and then people go back when they are older.
Some people make it a yearly event, a few in our complex in Florida go once a year....love the fireworks!
I don't want to go back, I don't want to be near Orlando for any reason, I don't get why people put themselves through that kind of torture. Much rather do a Hop On Hop Off bus and learn about a city, see some Frank Lloyd Wright architecture, see a park like Myakka, read a good book, go to the zoo, wonder around in a market, etc.........

Then you should head on over to Chicago. Great architecture including a bunch of Frank Lloyd Wright homes. Great parks and a couple of zoo's (one free). And the parks along the lake front are awesome.

I agree and the FLW buildings in Chicago are definitely on our to-do-soon list. It is hard getting away with an 8 month old puppy....but, we are going as soon as possible. Love Chicago, the Architectural Water Tour, the parks, The Peanut, and the Acme Hotel.

btw....did go to Fallingwater and have seen The Martin House and summer cottage near Buffalo NY. All exceptional and things I will say I am glad I saw. Disney World.....ah, not so much.

Thinking about this I have a ton of vacation I need to use or I will lose it. Since my wife just started a new job getting away for anything more than a weekend this year is out of the question. So I am taking days off and doing things near home. Looks like I'm going to take a day and see the FLW homes in Oak Park.

fintail

The friend I went with goes every year or so, usually drags someone with him. His parents were into it when he was a kid, I suspect he got the itch from them. On the other hand, my dad loathed theme parks, and I seem to have followed his tastes.

It was a fun enough experience, I recall we stayed in the park ("Pop Century", relatively cheap for a Disney property) for a few days, then offsite for the rest of the trip. Staying onsite gained us early admission and late hours. DW was fairly spotless and well managed, you pay for it, but you get a seamless experience. Epcot was maybe closer to being interesting for me, but even then it could be a stretch. I probably enjoyed myself more taking road trips from there as a base - Tampa Bay, Okeechobee, St Augustine, etc, nice drives.

tjc78 said:

I know several people that go every year. I’ve been once and assume I’ll have to suck it up and take the kids at least once in the next 3-4 years.

fintail

I did a self-guided (free) walking tour of FLW houses in the neighborhood around his old studio when I was in Chicago last November. Pretty cool, figuratively and literally. Chicago was a fun visit, did the touristy stuff downtown, didn't find anything too challenging, kind of like NYC without the funny attitude, and a little less grime. I'd go again.

snakeweasel said:

Then you should head on over to Chicago. Great architecture including a bunch of Frank Lloyd Wright homes. Great parks and a couple of zoo's (one free). And the parks along the lake front are awesome.

suydam

driver100 said:

Good to take kids once when about 6 or more......and then never go again.
I hear more adults go to Disney than kids, because parents go and then people go back when they are older.
Some people make it a yearly event, a few in our complex in Florida go once a year....love the fireworks!
I don't want to go back, I don't want to be near Orlando for any reason, I don't get why people put themselves through that kind of torture. Much rather do a Hop On Hop Off bus and learn about a city, see some Frank Lloyd Wright architecture, see a park like Myakka, read a good book, go to the zoo, wonder around in a market, etc.........

I found the ideal age is 8-11, when they can go on all the rides and still have the fun. 4 or so can’t do too many rides or walk very far and even kiddie rides frighten some (Peter Pan terrified my son at 3). As a Californian I always prefer Disneyland which is more compact than Disneyworld. As a kid our parents and their friends took us to Disneyland all the time. I have a lot of good memories about it, so I liked introducing my kids to it too. Back then Knots Berry Farm was just that — a farm and not a theme park — so we would stop there on the way home for fried chicken and their wonderful boysenberry jam.

stickguy

Question for NYC related to plumbing. Daughter and BF just bought a house (working on it is now my new primary vocation). Want to add a 2nd bath in the basement. Waste lines run along the wall, so no digging up the slab. But also can’t let gravity do all the work.

Is there a specific system you can recommend to handle the outflow? The drain lines are pretty low to the ground, so probably about 1’ Off the ground. I assume it requires a box to drain into with a pump to hoist it all up to the waste line.

And with that, do you need to build an elevated false floor for the pipes? In if so, how high? I know a sink is easy, needing nothing special. Toilet, do the make a “rear exit” model for this purpose?

And finally, what about a shower stall? Is that also just something that needs to be raised up?

Thankfully there is an open spot right next to the washer and laundry tub where all the waste lines come together right at floor level before exiting the house.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

Good to take kids once when about 6 or more......and then never go again.
I hear more adults go to Disney than kids, because parents go and then people go back when they are older.
Some people make it a yearly event, a few in our complex in Florida go once a year....love the fireworks!
I don't want to go back, I don't want to be near Orlando for any reason, I don't get why people put themselves through that kind of torture. Much rather do a Hop On Hop Off bus and learn about a city, see some Frank Lloyd Wright architecture, see a park like Myakka, read a good book, go to the zoo, wonder around in a market, etc.........

We took our son's there twice. The second time was 2 years after Epcot opened. In 2012 went with Son #1 when he took his 3 sons there. Man, I don't remember doing that much walking when my son's went there. That's probably saying something about my knees in 2012 vs. how they worked in the early 80's. I've seen enough of Disney World, it was nice and all that but I don't plan on going back. Years ago Mrs. j worked with a woman who went EVERY year without exception. The woman admitted that their kids got tired of it but it was her and her husband who really liked it.

FWIW, Son #1 went there on his honeymoon. At the time, he said it was one of the top honeymoon spots in the US. That surprised me.

jmonroe

pensfan83

I posted this in CCBA but we just returned from the Laurel Highlands. We have visited Fallingwater but toured the other FLW home, Kentuck Knob. That was very enjoyable and while Fallingwater gets all the press, and deservedly so, Kentuck Knob was less crowded which appealed to us.

Also in Chicago you have The Bean!!

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

New for 2020. They look pretty nice and they don't seem to be knock offs.........

It's clear from where the Palisade style came.

That is the one I was thinking of.

snakeweasel said:

tjc78 said:

fintail said:

I've done it once, Disneyworld, when a longtime friend goaded me into it with cheap airfare and the ability to do other things while I am there. I am not a theme park person. Now that I've done it, I never need to do it again, and I can't imagine that I will.

28firefighter said:

I truly dread the day I have to go to Disney again. My wife tells me it's coming no matter what.

I know several people that go every year. I’ve been once and assume I’ll have to suck it up and take the kids at least once in the next 3-4 years.

Our daughter and son in law live in Orlando, my wife always wants to take the grandkids to see the rat. My daughter has to keep telling my wife that they can go anytime and we should do something we would like to do with the grandkids. So far I have avoided the rat trap.

Someone actually chooses to live in Orlando!

Isn’t that where Sandman is trying to relocate.

tjc78

stickguy said:

Question for NYC related to plumbing. Daughter and BF just bought a house (working on it is now my new primary vocation). Want to add a 2nd bath in the basement. Waste lines run along the wall, so no digging up the slab. But also can’t let gravity do all the work.

Is there a specific system you can recommend to handle the outflow? The drain lines are pretty low to the ground, so probably about 1’ Off the ground. I assume it requires a box to drain into with a pump to hoist it all up to the waste line.

And with that, do you need to build an elevated false floor for the pipes? In if so, how high? I know a sink is easy, needing nothing special. Toilet, do the make a “rear exit” model for this purpose?

And finally, what about a shower stall? Is that also just something that needs to be raised up?

Thankfully there is an open spot right next to the washer and laundry tub where all the waste lines come together right at floor level before exiting the house.

This is a very similar situation to my house. Drain line is about 10" from the ground. Years ago they added bath down there (stall shower, sink and toilet). They poured a raised floor. Gives the room about 6' 2" ceiling. It's awful. Couple that with the fact that it was done cheap and now 40 years old we call it the scary bathroom

oldfarmer50

“even kiddie rides frighten some (Peter Pan terrified my son at 3).”

‘Alien Encounter’ terrified my younger son at at age 8 to the point of tears. OTOH, he could stand in front of some of the audio animatronic robots for hours listening to them spot the same commercial over and over.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

Question for NYC related to plumbing. Daughter and BF just bought a house (working on it is now my new primary vocation). Want to add a 2nd bath in the basement. Waste lines run along the wall, so no digging up the slab. But also can’t let gravity do all the work.

Is there a specific system you can recommend to handle the outflow? The drain lines are pretty low to the ground, so probably about 1’ Off the ground. I assume it requires a box to drain into with a pump to hoist it all up to the waste line.

And with that, do you need to build an elevated false floor for the pipes? In if so, how high? I know a sink is easy, needing nothing special. Toilet, do the make a “rear exit” model for this purpose?

And finally, what about a shower stall? Is that also just something that needs to be raised up?

Thankfully there is an open spot right next to the washer and laundry tub where all the waste lines come together right at floor level before exiting the house.

Sounds like you need a grinder pump.

stickguy

I knew there was a name for it. Kinda like a little mini sewage pumping station!

T, definitely not pouring a floor but doing joists could work. I assume your room basically has a step up into it?

jmonroe1

pensfan83 said:

I posted this in CCBA but we just returned from the Laurel Highlands. We have visited Fallingwater but toured the other FLW home, Kentuck Knob. That was very enjoyable and while Fallingwater gets all the press, and deservedly so, Kentuck Knob was less crowded which appealed to us.

Also in Chicago you have The Bean!!

And another also. We also have "The Bean" right here on this forum. Look, @thebean, see.

jmonroe

stickguy

Found one. Looks like designed to work with rear discharge toilet, and can drain a shower into it from the bottom. So no false floor needed, just have to put shower on a little platform.

https://www.saniflodepot.com/products/saniflo-sanibest-pro-macerating-pump-only?variant=690875123&currency=USD&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgsDJ7M-W4wIVtf7jBx3wJwFhEAQYASABEgKfAPD_BwE

tjc78

Yes it has a step-up. The pump system would be so much nicer.

driver100

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

Good to take kids once when about 6 or more......and then never go again.
I hear more adults go to Disney than kids, because parents go and then people go back when they are older.
Some people make it a yearly event, a few in our complex in Florida go once a year....love the fireworks!
I don't want to go back, I don't want to be near Orlando for any reason, I don't get why people put themselves through that kind of torture. Much rather do a Hop On Hop Off bus and learn about a city, see some Frank Lloyd Wright architecture, see a park like Myakka, read a good book, go to the zoo, wonder around in a market, etc.........

Then you should head on over to Chicago. Great architecture including a bunch of Frank Lloyd Wright homes. Great parks and a couple of zoo's (one free). And the parks along the lake front are awesome.

I agree and the FLW buildings in Chicago are definitely on our to-do-soon list. It is hard getting away with an 8 month old puppy....but, we are going as soon as possible. Love Chicago, the Architectural Water Tour, the parks, The Peanut, and the Acme Hotel.

btw....did go to Fallingwater and have seen The Martin House and summer cottage near Buffalo NY. All exceptional and things I will say I am glad I saw. Disney World.....ah, not so much.

Thinking about this I have a ton of vacation I need to use or I will lose it. Since my wife just started a new job getting away for anything more than a weekend this year is out of the question. So I am taking days off and doing things near home. Looks like I'm going to take a day and see the FLW homes in Oak Park.

Let me know how it goes and if there are any recommendations. We came very close to going in August but couldn't coordinate with another couple.

driver100

Wouldn't have missed Fallingwater as a must to see in this lifetime;


Would like to see the FLWs out west too....one day we will do the tour.

thebean

jmonroe1 said:

pensfan83 said:

I posted this in CCBA but we just returned from the Laurel Highlands. We have visited Fallingwater but toured the other FLW home, Kentuck Knob. That was very enjoyable and while Fallingwater gets all the press, and deservedly so, Kentuck Knob was less crowded which appealed to us.

Also in Chicago you have The Bean!!

And another also. We also have "The Bean" right here on this forum. Look, @thebean, see.

jmonroe

Yo, I’ve only been in Chicago once in my life. That was on a layover on a train trip from Dallas to IBM in Armonk, NY. I hate flying, and my then boss was insistent that I attend a meeting there. I negotiated a train trip, and it was cool.

I don’t know what “The Bean” in Chi-town is, but I’m thinking of suing for patent infringement.

Thx for the shout-out, @jmonroe1.

laurasdada

DisneyWorld veteran; as a kid, college student and a father. I enjoy it, GF has never been so it's on the list. We always went in the fall, lower prices, much smaller crowds so no lines to speak of. Only risk was hurricane season, which only affected us one year, but it was just tropical rains.

I still have a souvenir from my first trip back in the '70s! No idea how it has stayed with me through all of life's changes.

Went to DisneyLand once, much prefer DW.

thebean

I’m glad to be able to enjoy the 4th holiday now that I’m retired. When I was working, we had a whole host of stuff to do closing the books and then doing many compliance meetings in early July. It made enjoying the 4th impossible, as I was working 12 hrs/day and longer before and after the holiday. Now, every day is a holiday.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

Wouldn't have missed Fallingwater as a must to see in this lifetime;


Would like to see the FLWs out west too....one day we will do the tour.

I'm almost embarrassed to admit I've never been to Falling Water and it's not very far from where I live. I'm not a sightseeing person nor is Mrs. j. But, we will go before we leave this earth. Although I've never been there I have seen numerous tours via TV. I know it's not the same but, so far better than nothing.

You guys might or might not know this but Falling Water was built for Edgar Kaufmann who commissioned FLW to build it for him. He was the founder of the largest department store, Kaufmann's, in the Burgh for the longest time before going out of business in the 90's (I think). FWIW, when my mother was in her 50's, she decided to work for them at one of their stores that wasn't even two miles from where my parents lived. Since she was getting overly bored, she decided to give it a try at the request of a neighbor woman who had worked there for a few years. Nobody thought she would stay for more than a year but she really liked it and ended up getting a retirement from them. Who knew? I'll tell you this, her 3 son's liked it a lot because she got us her employee discount on everything we bought there even sale items. Because of that our kids always got their clothes there to say nothing about how much Mrs. j spent at that place. Me, she told me to go to Kmart.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

thebean said:

I’m glad to be able to enjoy the 4th holiday now that I’m retired. When I was working, we had a whole host of stuff to do closing the books and then doing many compliance meetings in early July. It made enjoying the 4th impossible, as I was working 12 hrs/day and longer before and after the holiday. Now, every day is a holiday.

Yeah, I know what you mean about every day being a holiday. I spent part of my holiday yesterday cutting the grass. Damn glad I did it yesterday because it is really humid today. I've been known to put off cutting the grass for another holiday when it's humid like today. Almost Texas like humidity. Nope, not cutting grass on those holidays. My philosophy is tomorrow is another holiday so do it on that holiday. My landscaper finally showed up today in this humidity. Shame on him. I called him 2 weeks ago. That would have been a better holiday to do it but I don't think he has as many holidays as I have.

jmonroe

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

Wouldn't have missed Fallingwater as a must to see in this lifetime;


Would like to see the FLWs out west too....one day we will do the tour.

I'm almost embarrassed to admit I've never been to Falling Water and it's not very far from where I live. I'm not a sightseeing person nor is Mrs. j. But, we will go before we leave this earth. Although I've never been there I have seen numerous tours via TV. I know it's not the same but, so far better than nothing.

You guys might or might not know this but Falling Water was built for Edgar Kaufmann who commissioned FLW to build it for him. He was the founder of the largest department store, Kaufmann's, in the Burgh for the longest time before going out of business in the 90's (I think)? I'll tell you this, her 3 son's liked it a lot because she got us her employee discount on everything we bought there even sale items. Because of that our kids always got their clothes there to say nothing about how much Mrs. j spent at that place. Me, she told me to go to Kmart.

jmonroe

When we went to Fallingwater we also took in the Burgh and we loved seeing the city. Even did the Duck Tour and found out after how unsafe it actually was.....though, I highly recommend doing it, the Burgh lends itself to going on that tour.

I think you particularly would be amazed at the engineering aspects of Fallingwater. Although beautiful the design itself was not adequate, and the upkeep is substantial because of leaks and foundation problems. Lots impressed me but I like the things Wright thought about even in 1935 when he built the house...like built in desks and sofas, heaters that were hidden from view (could be ugly in those days), magnificent views.
I'd rather have another tour of the house than spend 10 hours at Disney World. But, I will say it is nice to take your kids once or twice to Disney World.......

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

thebean said:

I’m glad to be able to enjoy the 4th holiday now that I’m retired. When I was working, we had a whole host of stuff to do closing the books and then doing many compliance meetings in early July. It made enjoying the 4th impossible, as I was working 12 hrs/day and longer before and after the holiday. Now, every day is a holiday.

Yeah, I know what you mean about every day being a holiday. I spent part of my holiday yesterday cutting the grass. .

jmonroe

I hate cutting grass....I get no satisfaction from it and there are lots of other things I would rather do than cut the grass. I prefer to get "The Guy" to come and cut the lawn.

thebean

@driver100, I’m pretty sure it’s illegal for a MB owner to cut their own grass. Something about not soiling the image of the brand. 8^)

berri

Disney - between parking, admission and food - bring lots of money. Oh, and come eating time it might be handy to lose your taste buds for a bit

driver100

thebean said:

@driver100, I’m pretty sure it’s illegal for a MB owner to cut their own grass. Something about not soiling the image of the brand. 8^)

Thanks for pointing that out bean.....I would much rather be driving the MB and experiencing the handling and ride, than pushing a mower around. And it would ruin the image too.

btw....do you know about Chicagos Giant Bean;

I thought it was a Giant Peanut!

berri

...or a silver turd

oldfarmer50

End of a legend.

https://youtu.be/RsDdRMSXUJI

imidazol97

thebean said:

@driver100, I’m pretty sure it’s illegal for a MB owner to cut their own grass. Something about not soiling the image of the brand. 8^)

Thanks for pointing that out bean.....I would much rather be driving the MB and experiencing the handling and ride, than pushing a mower around. And it would ruin the image too.

btw....do you know about Chicagos Giant Bean;

I thought it was a Giant Peanut!

Then and NOW

https://blockclubchicago.org/2019/07/02/the-bean-got-spray-painted-by-a-group-of-adults-police-say/

jipster

Finally got an electrician to look at that knob and tube wiring. The first electrician that looked at it said it was too big a job for him. This second guy's estimate is $9,200, which does not include any plaster or drywall repairs when opening things up to put new wiring in. Also, said additional costs.could arise should problems arise or more knob and tube is found. So, I'm guessing a final cost would be around $15,000. Daughter contemplating next move. She really wants the house though. I am urging caution.