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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,964
    edited August 2019
    So we talk about Chik Fil A a lot in here ...

    My wife had to get some school work done since she didn’t do much on Vacation last week.

    I volunteered to take the kids to pick up some stuff and get them lunch so it was quiet at the house. They asked for Chik Fil A. I said sure!

    I remembered after my first stop that they are closed on Sundays. Oh no, two unhappy kids! Ended up at Wendy’s. They liked it, but their spicy chicken sandwich doesn’t hold a candle to CFA.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    I'm also not trying to offend people with this link to a report about a Johns Hopkins study published in 2016. Medical errors are the third-leading cause of death in the U.S. after heart disease and cancer.

    I've filed more insurance grievances and patient complaints with 2 local hospitals in the last 4 years than I ever did in the previous 56 years of my life!

    This morning I was talking with an RN while news reports about the tragic mass shootings were streaming in. And in our own back yard a local doc is charged in the deaths of 25 patients who died under his care.

    After all the headlines and breaking news reports, the nurse and I went back to our usual talk about the prospect of healthcare reform. A decline in the quality and continuity of healthcare is typically not the breaking news alert flashing on the TV screen. But it's a killer.
    A time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    tjc78 said:

    So we talk about Chik Fil A a lot in here ...

    My wife had to get some school work done since she didn’t do much on Vacation last week.

    I volunteered to take the kids to pick up some stuff and get them lunch so it was quiet at the house. They asked for Chik Fil A. I said sure!

    I remembered after my first stop that they are closed on Sundays. Oh no, two unhappy kids! Ended up at Wendy’s. They liked it, but their spicy chicken sandwich doesn’t hold a candle to CFA.

    They test market their changes to their foods and come up with really good recipes. But good chicken prepared several different ways is good chicken. Their latest is a changeover in the type of grill they use as far as the coatings. The grilled items have a slightly different taste now due to the nonstick surface they're using. One store at a time is being changed.

    Their zesty apple cider vinaigrette dressing is a great taste for me on their salads.

    Just remember the waffle fries still have calories!!! Love the taste. Hate the fat.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Happy Birthday to the U.S. Coast Guard, our nation's oldest continuously active sea service.


    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593

    @sda .....beautiful Q5. Congrats on the punch!

    +1

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,549
    sda said:

    I felt industrious yesterday and hand washed and dried all three cars and then proceeded to weed eat and mow the lawn. Yes, I slept well. The headlights were starting to haze again on the TL so I polished and put a coat of wax on them. Hopefully that will buy me time before I have to repeat.

    Nice! How many miles on your Acura TL?
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,203
    edited August 2019
    Just had an interesting interaction at the gas station. I was out in the convertible enjoying the sun and stopped into a gas station a few towns over. As I was pumping gas a guy in a well kept BMW X3 pulled up and asked if I would like to buy a jewel encrusted ring so he could afford to buy gas.🤦‍♂️

    So here’s a guy in a $50k SUV asking a guy in a $2k hooptie to feel sorry for him enough to fall for the oldest scam in the book.

    He should look to getting into another line of work.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593
    sda said:


    And while I'm on a roll, one thing I like about the TL that the TLX and Q5 don't have is a soft touch lower door panel. They are hard plastic.

    I assume the TLX is the top one. Looks nice but it looks like there is a pull down drawer on the Q5....that seems to be a smart idea. It would be hard to make it that way if it was soft. Also the speaker looks larger on the Q5...that's a plus.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593
    edited August 2019
    I think we looked at these before......I have seen a few in London UK.

    Can you guess the name of the car, who makes it and what country it is made in...........may surprise you? Not the U.S. and not Europe.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,347
    Nissan Figaro

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593
    edited August 2019

    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    He took the car to the dealer where he bought it. I suggested he take the car to a good indie garage just to see what they would say. It will be interesting if the indie comes up with a much lower price.

    The damage wasn't due to the age of the vehicle; why doesn't he submit it to insurance under his comprehensive coverage?
    Did he actually look at the lens? it may be just scuffed and could possibly be fixed with a fine polishing compound.
    All true. I thought about insurance too and I will ask him, but, just a guess, he has had a few claims and would probably rather not fix it through his insurance.
    Buffing it out might be worth a try....I think the first thing to check is to see what the indie guy says. Hard to believe you can buy a whole camera for $100 but they want $1200 to replace a lens.
    Yuck! I had a fruit flavored beer once.....ONCE.
    Why not buy the camera then? Get it from a junk yard and have the indie guy install it.
    I couldn't write Fri or Saturday, couldn't log in with my tablet. Our trip to Ellicottville was excellent.
    Good idea getting a camera kit from the junk yard. I was going to buy a rear camera for the Florida car, only cost $100, wonder if they can adapt one of those and just take out the camera part....I will tell my friend and he can look into it.

    Blueberry wheat beer is by far their best selling beer at the Ellicottville Brewery. I like it because I get my fruit for the day, and something healthy to eat. With a salad and a really good cheeseburger I get all my food groups in one meal.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593
    Michaell said:

    Nissan Figaro

    How did you know that?
    Only made them for one year. . The Figaro was sold without the Nissan name. The Figaro was equipped with leather seats, air conditioning, CD player and an open roof. It was designed by Shoji Takahashi, who won a design competition with the car. (HARD TO BELIEVE)

    Only 8000 were originally available with an additional 12,000 added to production numbers to meet demand. Prospective purchasers had to enter a lottery to be able to buy one of these cars. Limited edition cars came with passenger side baskets and cup holders.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    Probably wouldn't have gotten the model right away, but I knew it's a Nissan.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    I've seen several Figaro around Vancouver (where they've been possible for over a decade now).

    Nissan had a lot more relevance back in the early 90s.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    The Gateway Pundit lolol
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    said:

    L so I polished and put a coat of wax on them. Hopefully that will buy me time before I have to repeat.

    I have a plastic polish that contains something to reduce damage from ultraviolat rays.


    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,296
    edited August 2019
    When in comes to car.trouble, when it rains it pours. My new independent mechanic recently installed a new a\c condenser for $520 in my car (Mercury Mariner).. Needs new tires. My wife's Hyundai Veracruz had a new c.v axle put on by Indy for $195. Dealership wanted $350 for the aftermarket axle and $520 for the o.e.m axle. That car needs a new front valve cover gasket, as the one put on 10 months ago is leaking again....into the alternator. Also, needs new oil pan gasket and rear brakes.

    Son's 2010 Mercury Milan is in bad shape. Dealers says has timing issues (maybe a stretched timing belt, a bad cvt solenoid). They won't know unless they spend 7 hours taking the engine apart. Or, I can spend, for a used engine. $5,200, or remanufactured for.$7,100..Also, needs a new throttle body....the symptoms of which is why I took into dealership in the first place (bucking badly in interstate, engine cut out when coming to a stop). Car runs fine, 99% of the time. Idles fines. Has a ticking noise I've noticed in back on engine. I've bought a new o.e.m throttle body from dealership I'll install myself. Thinking if that is the reason for the incident on the interstate, I'll just drive the car till the engine blows. Probably wouldn't get $1,000-$2,000 out of it if I tried to trade in or sell. Thought I may try some Seafoam or Auto RX for that CVT solenoid.

    Daughters 2007 Kia Optima needs a good whack on the dashboard to get the dash lights back on. Not too bad.

    Told my indy mechanic I was likely to become his best customer with my aging fleet of vehicles. Wife wants to buy a new Honda Fit. No...not a Honda Fit!!! I'd like a Mazda 6. ZOOM ZOOM! We shall see...I hid her frying pan.
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • thebeanthebean Member Posts: 1,266
    Wow @jipster, that’s a heap of car trouble. We all know older cars require periodic repair & maintenance, but this is really bad luck. Start looking for bottles/cans on the roadside. B)

    In regard to earlier posts, I really like that Nissan Figaro. Certainly not for highway driving, but for a city car, it would be a blast.
    2015 Honda Accord EX, 2019 Honda HR-V EX
  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,296
    edited August 2019
    thebean said:

    Wow @jipster, that’s a heap of car trouble. We all know older cars require periodic repair & maintenance, but this is really bad luck. Start looking for bottles/cans on the roadside. B)

    In regard to earlier posts, I really like that Nissan Figaro. Certainly not for highway driving, but for a city car, it would be a blast.

    To save money, I'm trying to get Mrs Jip into a good mechanics school.But she doesnt.like to get her hands dirty. :-(

    Parts wear out, you must hope it's never a engine. :-(
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,287
    edited August 2019
    There is a Figaro locally that visits someone here once a year or so. I snapped these pics of it in 2016. Firefox is still on strike against images, so I'm using Chrome for this.





    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,582
    @jipster, wow, hold on to your wallet. I don’t know much about the engine in the Milan but I would think if the car runs well 99% of the time, engine damage has not been done and replacing the timing belt and any tensioners would be the course of action. Have you asked your Indy mechanic for their opinion?

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,582
    driver100 said:

    sda said:


    And while I'm on a roll, one thing I like about the TL that the TLX and Q5 don't have is a soft touch lower door panel. They are hard plastic.

    I assume the TLX is the top one. Looks nice but it looks like there is a pull down drawer on the Q5....that seems to be a smart idea. It would be hard to make it that way if it was soft. Also the speaker looks larger on the Q5...that's a plus.
    Actually, the reverse, Q5 top. I can’t seem to get the hang of posting pics in the correct order. I am left handed, lol.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,582

    said:

    L so I polished and put a coat of wax on them. Hopefully that will buy me time before I have to repeat.

    I have a plastic polish that contains something to reduce damage from ultraviolat rays.



    Can you share the name of the polish or is that against the rules? I need no stink’n tickets :o

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,296
    edited August 2019

    Just had an interesting interaction at the gas station. I was out in the convertible enjoying the sun and stopped into a gas station a few towns over. As I was pumping gas a guy in a well kept BMW X3 pulled up and asked if I would like to buy a jewel encrusted ring so he could afford to buy gas.🤦‍♂️

    So here’s a guy in a $50k SUV asking a guy in a $2k hooptie to feel sorry for him enough to fall for the oldest scam in the book.

    He should look to getting into another line of work.

    Your state fair going on? Draws the scammers/weirdos like flies. Had some "lady" from a nearby gas station follow me home one morning. She asked to borrow some money for gas. Said I could keep her watch as collateral. Had some shady looking dude in her passenger seat. Gave her 5 bucks and sent her on her way.

    Your guy needs to work on his scamming skills. Pulling up in a expensive bimmer claiming to need gas money...not too bright.
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,296
    edited August 2019
    sda said:

    @jipster, wow, hold on to your wallet. I don’t know much about the engine in the Milan but I would think if the car runs well 99% of the time, engine damage has not been done and replacing the timing belt and any tensioners would be the course of action. Have you asked your Indy mechanic for their opinion?

    There were about 6 or 7 engine codes the vehicle had stored. No lights on dash. Dealerships mechanic said it "may just need a new CVT solenoid." I asked for an estimate on that solenoid , have yet to get one. Service advisor said, "tech said it probably wouldn't be worth replacing".

    I think it would be around $2,000 to replace the timing belt. I asked dealership for options, they seemed to think that based on diagnotics, engine replacement the best. I've asked a lot of questions, which service advisor has grown tired of I assume, as he no longer answers my calls or texts unless pressed.

    I did ask my indy about the throttle body. He said he'd try cleaning it first. Didn't really know if my indy would have the diagnostic equipment to handle the engine work. I was going to take the Veracruz to him for that oil pan gasket, I'll ask him.

    AND, always holding onto that wallet. ;-)
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    @jipster,
    You definitely need a 2nd opinion on the Milan.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    Michaell said:

    Nissan Figaro

    Wasn't Figaro the Barber of Seville?

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,287
    @jipster , what is a CVT solenoid? I only know CVT as meaning continuously variable transmission, which of course the Milan does not have.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    @ab348,
    It's for the variable valve timing.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,203
    jipster said:

    When in comes to car.trouble, when it rains it pours. My new independent mechanic recently installed a new a\c condenser for $520 in my car (Mercury Mariner).. Needs new tires. My wife's Hyundai Veracruz had a new c.v axle put on by Indy for $195. Dealership wanted $350 for the aftermarket axle and $520 for the o.e.m axle. That car needs a new front valve cover gasket, as the one put on 10 months ago is leaking again....into the alternator. Also, needs new oil pan gasket and rear brakes.

    Son's 2010 Mercury Milan is in bad shape. Dealers says has timing issues (maybe a stretched timing belt, a bad cvt solenoid). They won't know unless they spend 7 hours taking the engine apart. Or, I can spend, for a used engine. $5,200, or remanufactured for.$7,100..Also, needs a new throttle body....the symptoms of which is why I took into dealership in the first place (bucking badly in interstate, engine cut out when coming to a stop). Car runs fine, 99% of the time. Idles fines. Has a ticking noise I've noticed in back on engine. I've bought a new o.e.m throttle body from dealership I'll install myself. Thinking if that is the reason for the incident on the interstate, I'll just drive the car till the engine blows. Probably wouldn't get $1,000-$2,000 out of it if I tried to trade in or sell. Thought I may try some Seafoam or Auto RX for that CVT solenoid.

    Daughters 2007 Kia Optima needs a good whack on the dashboard to get the dash lights back on. Not too bad.

    Told my indy mechanic I was likely to become his best customer with my aging fleet of vehicles. Wife wants to buy a new Honda Fit. No...not a Honda Fit!!! I'd like a Mazda 6. ZOOM ZOOM! We shall see...I hid her frying pan.

    That’s not the Milan you just bought, is it?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,356
    Jip, your stories are why I can't deal with old stuff for too long. and you can get into penny wise, pound foolish territory.

    mostly though, especially as I get older, I just have no tollerence for constant problems, breakdown, screwing around with taking the car to multiple mechanics. Even if you can do a spreadsheet and come up with a number that says you are "ahead", to me it is not worth the effort. Just find a new or nearly new car for a reasonable price, fork open the wallet, and have something reliable and easy to live with.

    inexpensive cars are great, but you gotta know when to pull the rip cord.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,203
    sda said:

    @jipster, wow, hold on to your wallet. I don’t know much about the engine in the Milan but I would think if the car runs well 99% of the time, engine damage has not been done and replacing the timing belt and any tensioners would be the course of action. Have you asked your Indy mechanic for their opinion?


    If that car has the Duratec engine it might have a double timing chain set up that’s expensive to replace and is best professionally done. Not cheap.

    Surprised that he might have trouble with the CVT as in that generation Ford it was supposed to be better than the regular auto trans.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593
    stickguy said:

    Jip, your stories are why I can't deal with old stuff for too long. and you can get into penny wise, pound foolish territory.

    mostly though, especially as I get older, I just have no tollerence for constant problems, breakdown, screwing around with taking the car to multiple mechanics. Even if you can do a spreadsheet and come up with a number that says you are "ahead", to me it is not worth the effort. Just find a new or nearly new car for a reasonable price, fork open the wallet, and have something reliable and easy to live with.

    inexpensive cars are great, but you gotta know when to pull the rip cord.

    Once again I have to do a +1 for stick.
    I have spent too much time in garages waiting for my car to get fixed, in the olden days. If an old car was reliable, if it didn't need repairs done to it, if it had the things a new car has...like a warranty, they wouldn't be selling it for $5 or $6k.

    Personally, I would rather use the $5k as a down payment, and buy a year or two old car and finance $10 or $15k or so. Unfortunately, the people who buy $4k or $5k cars can't afford all the repairs these cars quite often have.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,203
    jipster said:

    sda said:

    @jipster, wow, hold on to your wallet. I don’t know much about the engine in the Milan but I would think if the car runs well 99% of the time, engine damage has not been done and replacing the timing belt and any tensioners would be the course of action. Have you asked your Indy mechanic for their opinion?

    There were about 6 or 7 engine codes the vehicle had stored. No lights on dash. Dealerships mechanic said it "may just need a new CVT solenoid." I asked for an estimate on that solenoid , have yet to get one. Service advisor said, "tech said it probably wouldn't be worth replacing".

    I think it would be around $2,000 to replace the timing belt. I asked dealership for options, they seemed to think that based on diagnotics, engine replacement the best. I've asked a lot of questions, which service advisor has grown tired of I assume, as he no longer answers my calls or texts unless pressed.

    I did ask my indy about the throttle body. He said he'd try cleaning it first. Didn't really know if my indy would have the diagnostic equipment to handle the engine work. I was going to take the Veracruz to him for that oil pan gasket, I'll ask him.

    AND, always holding onto that wallet. ;-)
    Shift solenoid on my old Chrysler was only $250 but that was a decade ago and not a CVT.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593
    Speaking of older cars, one of the guys at our tennis get together had a 2008 Saturn Vue last year........this year he replaced it with a Kia Soul.
    I asked him about the Vue and he said it was getting too expensive to keep it on the road. He put 225000 miles on it but he said he had to replace a lot of parts, to get it to 300000 miles he would have to replace every part.
    And he loved the car and looked after it....says they had Honda engines in them. One other problem, there weren't any dealers around any more of course so hard to get repaired at times, and Honda dealer wouldn't touch it.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593

    @ab348,
    It's for the variable valve timing.

    Wouldn't that be a VVT?

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,203
    ab348 said:

    @jipster , what is a CVT solenoid? I only know CVT as meaning continuously variable transmission, which of course the Milan does not have.


    I understand some Fords in the late 2000s had them.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331
    edited August 2019
    A comprehensive maintenance regimen is the key to owning older cars. Our newest are a 2014 and a 2015, but I put quite a few miles on the Clubman and Wrangler. All three oldsters see a dealer or indie shop once per year for scheduled maintenance and that's it.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
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    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    sda said:

    said:

    L so I polished and put a coat of wax on them. Hopefully that will buy me time before I have to repeat.

    I have a plastic polish that contains something to reduce damage from ultraviolat rays.



    Can you share the name of the polish or is that against the rules? I need no stink’n tickets :o
    Meguires PlastiX

    On my Cobalt, there was some hazing starting, so I bought a quality set of headlights on Ebay. I watched and compared the bottom feeders with the better looking, consistent ads, and bought a pair. It made my Cobalt look like new.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    edited August 2019
    ab348 said:

    There is a Figaro locally that visits someone here once a year or so. I snapped these pics of it in 2016. Firefox is still on strike against images, so I'm using Chrome for this.


    I saw one of those at ChickFilA. I'd never heard of it... Italian, Figaro; Nissan, not Italian.
    I see lots of different cars around the AFB that aren't typical of west central Ohio.







    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    @ab348,
    Trust me, 09 Milan has a 6F35 transmission. The solenoid is part of the VVT.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,347
    driver100 said:

    Speaking of older cars, one of the guys at our tennis get together had a 2008 Saturn Vue last year........this year he replaced it with a Kia Soul.
    I asked him about the Vue and he said it was getting too expensive to keep it on the road. He put 225000 miles on it but he said he had to replace a lot of parts, to get it to 300000 miles he would have to replace every part.
    And he loved the car and looked after it....says they had Honda engines in them. One other problem, there weren't any dealers around any more of course so hard to get repaired at times, and Honda dealer wouldn't touch it.

    As the former owner of a 2008 Saturn Vue, I can tell you that that did not contain the Honda engine. 2008 was the first year of a total redesign, and it had the GM corporate 3.6L V6 in it.

    Before the 2008, we owned a 2005 Vue that did have the 3.5L Honda V6 engine.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,582

    ab348 said:

    @jipster , what is a CVT solenoid? I only know CVT as meaning continuously variable transmission, which of course the Milan does not have.


    I understand some Fords in the late 2000s had them.

    ab348 said:

    @jipster , what is a CVT solenoid? I only know CVT as meaning continuously variable transmission, which of course the Milan does not have.


    I understand some Fords in the late 2000s had them.

    ab348 said:

    @jipster , what is a CVT solenoid? I only know CVT as meaning continuously variable transmission, which of course the Milan does not have.


    I understand some Fords in the late 2000s had them.
    I think it was the Hybrid that had the CVT.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,296

    @jipster,
    You definitely need a 2nd opinion on the Milan.

    I asked a former mechanic at that dealership for his opinion (nephew to my sister in law). He was quite vocal, "YOU NEED TO HAVE THEM DIAGNOSE THE PROBLEM...CAR HAS A DRIVEABILITY ISSUE, NOT A MECHANICAL ISSUE." He advised against the engine replacement. He then spoke, on my behalf, to the shop foreman....changed his tune and pretty much said, yeah, you're screwed. He declined to look at it, but referred me to 2 of his buddies who have a shop.
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,296
    ab348 said:

    @jipster , what is a CVT solenoid? I only know CVT as meaning continuously variable transmission, which of course the Milan does not have.

    My bad, I meant VCT solenoid. It regulates oil flow to the cams...or something. I believe its referred to a VVT on other makes.
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,296

    jipster said:

    When in comes to car.trouble, when it rains it pours. My new independent mechanic recently installed a new a\c condenser for $520 in my car (Mercury Mariner).. Needs new tires. My wife's Hyundai Veracruz had a new c.v axle put on by Indy for $195. Dealership wanted $350 for the aftermarket axle and $520 for the o.e.m axle. That car needs a new front valve cover gasket, as the one put on 10 months ago is leaking again....into the alternator. Also, needs new oil pan gasket and rear brakes.

    Son's 2010 Mercury Milan is in bad shape. Dealers says has timing issues (maybe a stretched timing belt, a bad cvt solenoid). They won't know unless they spend 7 hours taking the engine apart. Or, I can spend, for a used engine. $5,200, or remanufactured for.$7,100..Also, needs a new throttle body....the symptoms of which is why I took into dealership in the first place (bucking badly in interstate, engine cut out when coming to a stop). Car runs fine, 99% of the time. Idles fines. Has a ticking noise I've noticed in back on engine. I've bought a new o.e.m throttle body from dealership I'll install myself. Thinking if that is the reason for the incident on the interstate, I'll just drive the car till the engine blows. Probably wouldn't get $1,000-$2,000 out of it if I tried to trade in or sell. Thought I may try some Seafoam or Auto RX for that CVT solenoid.

    Daughters 2007 Kia Optima needs a good whack on the dashboard to get the dash lights back on. Not too bad.

    Told my indy mechanic I was likely to become his best customer with my aging fleet of vehicles. Wife wants to buy a new Honda Fit. No...not a Honda Fit!!! I'd like a Mazda 6. ZOOM ZOOM! We shall see...I hid her frying pan.

    That’s not the Milan you just bought, is it?
    Yes. Need another whooptie?

    Bought 4 months ago. Im guessing that due to the large quantity of oil it burns (quart every 1,500 or so miles) that the engine has issues and car wasnt properly cared for. Shifty said Carfax was good though.
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,296
    stickguy said:

    Jip, your stories are why I can't deal with old stuff for too long. and you can get into penny wise, pound foolish territory.

    mostly though, especially as I get older, I just have no tollerence for constant problems, breakdown, screwing around with taking the car to multiple mechanics. Even if you can do a spreadsheet and come up with a number that says you are "ahead", to me it is not worth the effort. Just find a new or nearly new car for a reasonable price, fork open the wallet, and have something reliable and easy to live with.

    inexpensive cars are great, but you gotta know when to pull the rip cord.

    I agree. But up until now our cars have been fairly reliable. BUT... 2 now have around 150,000 miles. Both have been well cared for.

    But it's my son's car that I dont know if I want to pull that rip cord. Just bought for $5k....I dont really want to spend $800 for somebody to take the engine apart, only to tell me I need a new engine....or $3,000 in repairs. It already has front end damage from son banging it into retaining wall. Dont know if I had mentioned that fun fact before. Body shop said $2,800 to fix. Doesnt look bad. Told son he can drive it like that or get it fixed himself. I didnt want to turn in to insurance. So hold em or fold em. I'm inclined to hold for now, see what my indy guy says.

    Below is what my service advisor texted me. My service invoice had very little info on what exactly they did for the $89 diagnostics fee.

    Hello Mr. (Jip) when my technician scanned your vehicle it had dtc's for timing and throttle body which our shop foreman should have explained to kevin. Tech verified timing issues by monitoring computer data through the ids and verified throttle body was also faulty through component testing. The throttle body will not cause the vehicle to be out of time. The tech spent multiple hours with your vehicle to make the correct diagnosis for vehicle. You can just replace your throttle body by itself but this will not fix your check engine light for the timing issue and lack of power. I hope this info helps, sorry for the delay.
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,296

    sda said:

    @jipster, wow, hold on to your wallet. I don’t know much about the engine in the Milan but I would think if the car runs well 99% of the time, engine damage has not been done and replacing the timing belt and any tensioners would be the course of action. Have you asked your Indy mechanic for their opinion?


    If that car has the Duratec engine it might have a double timing chain set up that’s expensive to replace and is best professionally done. Not cheap.

    Surprised that he might have trouble with the CVT as in that generation Ford it was supposed to be better than the regular auto trans.
    Yep, the 3.0 Duratec Ford souped up to get 240hp instead of 200. Not cheap...dont like the sound of that.

    Sorry, meant to write VCT solenoid. Transmission is o.k
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,356
    I can see the Milan. Also the crap shoot that buying a used car is. Even with a PPI, you can only know so much. Certainly much easier to take a car up in miles if you had it since the beginning. Otherwise, you just have to get lucky!

    so reading this, sounds like you at minimum are in for a timing belt (chain?) job, and new throttle body? Hopefully that fixes it.

    a little front end bump, if really just cosmetic, yeah let that go.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,203
    sda said:

    ab348 said:

    @jipster , what is a CVT solenoid? I only know CVT as meaning continuously variable transmission, which of course the Milan does not have.


    I understand some Fords in the late 2000s had them.

    ab348 said:

    @jipster , what is a CVT solenoid? I only know CVT as meaning continuously variable transmission, which of course the Milan does not have.


    I understand some Fords in the late 2000s had them.

    ab348 said:

    @jipster , what is a CVT solenoid? I only know CVT as meaning continuously variable transmission, which of course the Milan does not have.


    I understand some Fords in the late 2000s had them.
    I think it was the Hybrid that had the CVT.

    Yeah, I looked it up and only the Fusion hybrid had a CVT. Earlier the Ford 500 had one on some versions.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

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