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qbrozen

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

This was my ride today while the ATS was being serviced:




Aside from the all-black interior I was extremely impressed. Fortunately there are better colors on offer. I could see myself in one of these at some point.

Is that what they used to call the XTS? I found those to be nice. I thought they discontinued those.

Hey, how did you come out from the latest hurricane to brush your area?

The XTS was a (big) sedan. So, no, this is not that.

ab348

fintail said:

What I've learned is that negative reviews against GM products are often some kind of media conspiracy, and that product updates (corrections) are made because journalists object, not because the design was actually flawed.

When you’re right, you’re right.

ab348

cdnpinhead said:

Face it 348, you're never going to get the last word. Many have gone before you.

Nah, I know that’s impossible. I’m just trying to make him realize that posting useless clickbait sites with articles like that just make him look silly.

andres3

So someone talks about the "out left lane camping a left lane camper method." You know, where you teach them a lesson with their own medicine. You get in front, slow down 20 below what they were driving, forcing them to move right (where they should have been all along), and then you gun the gas as soon as they do so. Rinse and repeat if necessary if they get back in the left lane while passing no one.

At the risk of stirring up another LLC debate in here, what do you all think of this argument:

Former Cop to the guy teaching LLC's a lesson : "So you are committing vehicle code violations to force other people to obey the vehicle code? Does this make sense to you?"

@andres3 to the former Cop : "Isn't that what you did every day when you catch up to a speeder and ticket them? Or please do tell how you catch up to a speeder without speeding. I’m dying to know! LOL! The hypocrisy is so thick I’m just stuck."

Former Cop: "cops are exempted from certain vehicle codes while in pursuit."

Me: So those that make and enforce laws have an interest in maintaining the Monopoly to enforce those laws? Cite him for impersonating an Officer then, but don't criticize the methods since they are exactly the same as your own!"

Who's more right?

ab348

oldfarmer50 said:

Hey, how did you come out from the latest hurricane to brush your area?

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/comment/5769865#Comment_5769865

imidazol97

ab348 said:

cdnpinhead said:

Face it 348, you're never going to get the last word. Many have gone before you.

Nah, I know that’s impossible. I’m just trying to make him realize that posting useless clickbait sites with articles like that just make him look silly.

I see at least one car evaluation/comparison site in the junk advertising in the background each day. It ranks right up there with the "look closely at this picture to see what's wrong" and has a picture that nothing wrong in it but folks think if they click there they'll see some scandal exposed in the picture.

The sites like that just pick and choose info from other sources, usually to achieve the outcome they wanted to begin with. Somewhat political in technique.

On the other hand, many of the groups that supposedly actually drive the cars are using their own specialized value system to judge a car that meant for lots of people. E.g., that would be like if I started driving BMWs and gave my opinion based on my usual type of driving and my needs for a vehicle.

Too bad I can't write for a magazine and get paid. Maybe I could appeal to the senior adult audience. Many of the evaluations are based on what will sell the magazine.

A few years back I started looking at the internet singletons reviewers who do their own driving evaluations. They were more realistic.--no not the hector guy or whatever his name is who's been in several videos posted here giving his opinion.

stickguy

I had to gas up the RDX tonight. Probably $.10-.2 more than last time I did. stations now out of sync so you can tell the ones that started raising first.

Better fill up the TLX tomorrow. Just in case. More than half a tank I think. Have not driven much this week.

oldfarmer50

andres3 said:

So someone talks about the "out left lane camping a left lane camper method." You know, where you teach them a lesson with their own medicine. You get in front, slow down 20 below what they were driving, forcing them to move right (where they should have been all along), and then you gun the gas as soon as they do so. Rinse and repeat if necessary if they get back in the left lane while passing no one.

At the risk of stirring up another LLC debate in here, what do you all think of this argument:

Former Cop to the guy teaching LLC's a lesson : "So you are committing vehicle code violations to force other people to obey the vehicle code? Does this make sense to you?"

@andres3 to the former Cop : "Isn't that what you did every day when you catch up to a speeder and ticket them? Or please do tell how you catch up to a speeder without speeding. I’m dying to know! LOL! The hypocrisy is so thick I’m just stuck."

Former Cop: "cops are exempted from certain vehicle codes while in pursuit."

Me: So those that make and enforce laws have an interest in maintaining the Monopoly to enforce those laws? Cite him for impersonating an Officer then, but don't criticize the methods since they are exactly the same as your own!"

Who's more right?

Will it matter when they are scraping you (and others) off the pavement?

abacomike

I just downloaded Apple’s new IOS 13, their new operating system for iPhones and other products. Took about an hour. Big changes. The most notable change is the increased speed it loads apps. I also now have the ability to change the format and background inside each app. I use the black background with white lettering as opposed to white background with black lettering - easier for me to read.

Anyone else download the new operating system?

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Hey, how did you come out from the latest hurricane to brush your area?

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/comment/5769865#Comment_5769865

Didn’t this one come near you to?

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/weather/hurricane/os-ne-hurricane-humberto-expected-miss-bermuda-20190919-6s7nt66fabci3b5oek447h42tu-story.html

abacomike

stickguy said:

I had to gas up the RDX tonight. Probably $.10-.2 more than last time I did. stations now out of sync so you can tell the ones that started raising first.

Better fill up the TLX tomorrow. Just in case. More than half a tank I think. Have not driven much this week.

Costco raised their gas prices 7-15 cents per gallon, depending on the specific outlet store. The closest store to me is up 4 cents a gallon for PUG while their Boca Raton store is up 15 cents a gallon for PUG.

qbrozen

andres3 said:

So someone talks about the "out left lane camping a left lane camper method." You know, where you teach them a lesson with their own medicine. You get in front, slow down 20 below what they were driving, forcing them to move right (where they should have been all along), and then you gun the gas as soon as they do so. Rinse and repeat if necessary if they get back in the left lane while passing no one.

At the risk of stirring up another LLC debate in here, what do you all think of this argument:

Former Cop to the guy teaching LLC's a lesson : "So you are committing vehicle code violations to force other people to obey the vehicle code? Does this make sense to you?"

@andres3 to the former Cop : "Isn't that what you did every day when you catch up to a speeder and ticket them? Or please do tell how you catch up to a speeder without speeding. I’m dying to know! LOL! The hypocrisy is so thick I’m just stuck."

Former Cop: "cops are exempted from certain vehicle codes while in pursuit."

Me: So those that make and enforce laws have an interest in maintaining the Monopoly to enforce those laws? Cite him for impersonating an Officer then, but don't criticize the methods since they are exactly the same as your own!"

Who's more right?

More right? Eh. I just think the former cop is making the wrong argument. It isn’t a matter of HOW a non-officer is attempting to enforce the law, it is that they should not be doing it at all. Maybe the LLC is taking it upon him/herself to enforce the speed limit. So I’d rather nobody on the road who is not an officer try to enforce traffic rules.

stickguy

I don't think I updated Mike. But I still have an iPhone 7. at some point the new OS is going to leave me behind!

stickguy

when people on the road start playing "the law" it often has bad consequences. Just go around and ignore them. Because it is highly unlikely they are going to have some sort of epiphany. Road rage maybe though. Or ending up in an accident.

28firefighter

I’ll update my iPhone sometime next quarter. I know better than to update right away.

stickguy

the minor updates never cause me issues. But I would also wait on a major new one.

ab348

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Hey, how did you come out from the latest hurricane to brush your area?

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/comment/5769865#Comment_5769865

Didn’t this one come near you to?

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/weather/hurricane/os-ne-hurricane-humberto-expected-miss-bermuda-20190919-6s7nt66fabci3b5oek447h42tu-story.html

They’re saying it is staying well offshore.

abacomike

stickguy said:

I don't think I updated Mike. But I still have an iPhone 7. at some point the new OS is going to leave me behind!

I have an iPhone 8+ which is similar to the iPhone 7 with a slightly faster processor and wireless charging. I have not had any problems with the new update thus far.

stickguy

wireless charging could be fun. A couple of the cars we are looking at offer that. Would be a good excuse to upgrade the phone too.

snakeweasel

andres3 said:

So someone talks about the "out left lane camping a left lane camper method." You know, where you teach them a lesson with their own medicine. You get in front, slow down 20 below what they were driving, forcing them to move right (where they should have been all along), and then you gun the gas as soon as they do so. Rinse and repeat if necessary if they get back in the left lane while passing no one.

At the risk of stirring up another LLC debate in here, what do you all think of this argument:

Former Cop to the guy teaching LLC's a lesson : "So you are committing vehicle code violations to force other people to obey the vehicle code? Does this make sense to you?"

@andres3 to the former Cop : "Isn't that what you did every day when you catch up to a speeder and ticket them? Or please do tell how you catch up to a speeder without speeding. I’m dying to know! LOL! The hypocrisy is so thick I’m just stuck."

Former Cop: "cops are exempted from certain vehicle codes while in pursuit."

Me: So those that make and enforce laws have an interest in maintaining the Monopoly to enforce those laws? Cite him for impersonating an Officer then, but don't criticize the methods since they are exactly the same as your own!"

Who's more right?

The former cop is more right by a wide margin. The officer is empowered to enforce the law, has the proper training and the proper equipment (i.e. police vehicle with emergency lights). The person "teaching" the so called lesson has none of those, is driving aggressively and is a hazard on the road. I would think that the person "teaching the lesson" becomes a greater road hazard than the LLC as the former is unpredictable while latter is predictable.

qbrozen

abacomike said:

stickguy said:

I don't think I updated Mike. But I still have an iPhone 7. at some point the new OS is going to leave me behind!

I have an iPhone 8+ which is similar to the iPhone 7 with a slightly faster processor and wireless charging. I have not had any problems with the new update thus far.

My 6+ finally threw a fit last week. Would no longer allow folks to hear me, even with a headset. I figured 4 yrs was long enough. Was going to get the 8+ since that was the last with a physical Home button, but the monthly was only a buck less than an XR, which is faster, has longer battery life, and is more future proofed. I have quickly gotten used to the lack of a button. Great phone thus far.

nyccarguy

qbrozen said:

abacomike said:

stickguy said:

I don't think I updated Mike. But I still have an iPhone 7. at some point the new OS is going to leave me behind!

I have an iPhone 8+ which is similar to the iPhone 7 with a slightly faster processor and wireless charging. I have not had any problems with the new update thus far.

My 6+ finally threw a fit last week. Would no longer allow folks to hear me, even with a headset. I figured 4 yrs was long enough. Was going to get the 8+ since that was the last with a physical Home button, but the monthly was only a buck less than an XR, which is faster, has longer battery life, and is more future proofed. I have quickly gotten used to the lack of a button. Great phone thus far.

I went from a 6+ to an XR and have been very happy. It takes about a day or 2 to get used to the lack of a home button.

driver100

ab348 said:

cdnpinhead said:

Face it 348, you're never going to get the last word. Many have gone before you.

Nah, I know that’s impossible. I’m just trying to make him realize that posting useless clickbait sites with articles like that just make him look silly.

OK, I will let you have the last word......even if you are wrong

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

ab348 said:

cdnpinhead said:

Face it 348, you're never going to get the last word. Many have gone before you.

Nah, I know that’s impossible. I’m just trying to make him realize that posting useless clickbait sites with articles like that just make him look silly.

OK, I will let you have the last word......even if you are wrong

I believe it was Robert Heinlein who once said "Never try to get the last word, you just may get it."

nyccarguy

For those of you who don't tune into CCBA, I leased a 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport. Took delivery on Tuesday. I'm selling my Infiniti to Carvana.

28firefighter

I have an iPhone XS that I begrudgingly bought last year after my iPhone 7 gave up the ghost. XR wasn’t out yet.

It’s fine. The camera is wonderful. I hate how expensive the hardware is and short the lifespan seems to be. I will not be getting the new iPhone 11.

graphicguy

nyccarguy said:

For those of you who don't tune into CCBA, I leased a 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport. Took delivery on Tuesday. I'm selling my Infiniti to Carvana.

Very cool, Bradd. Said it over on the other thread, I like the Taco...a lot. Congrats!

graphicguy

abacomike said:

I just downloaded Apple’s new IOS 13, their new operating system for iPhones and other products. Took about an hour. Big changes. The most notable change is the increased speed it loads apps. I also now have the ability to change the format and background inside each app. I use the black background with white lettering as opposed to white background with black lettering - easier for me to read.

Anyone else download the new operating system?

Waiting for the iOS 13.1 update which will launch on Sept 24 before upgrading.

Michaell

Phones. My personal phone is an iPhone eight. Everything seems to be just fine with it, no plans to upgrade.

My original work phone was an iPhone SE. I've had it for three years, and decided it was time to upgrade now that the iPhone 11 was released. I don't do a lot with my work phone other than make calls and a few specific applications, but I did want a larger screen. Decided to go with an iPhone 8+, which I really like after having it for just a few days.

pensfan83

With the exception of some degradation of battery life, our Galaxy S7's are still working perfectly. Haven't really thought about upgrading at this point though if we did we'll likely go with S10's.

driver100

nyccarguy said:

Nice truck NYC. My brother-in-law used to get a new Chevy truck every other year....now, only Toyotas.

oldfarmer50

nyccarguy said:

For those of you who don't tune into CCBA, I leased a 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport. Took delivery on Tuesday. I'm selling my Infiniti to Carvana.

From the pipes in the back I’m assuming a business write off.

I’m intrigued by those who sell to Carvana, Carmax and the like. What’s the motivation? Is it easier than getting a buy bid from a dealer or do they offer a better price. I ran the Mustang through one of those “get an offer” solicitations and was impress by the amount they offered.

graphicguy

My iPhone X is only 1 year old. Works just fine with the iOS 12.4. So, not sure I’ll even download the iOS 13.1 version. Can’t find a reason to get the iPhone 11, either.

My work phone is a Pixel. For what I need it for, it’s perfect!

snakeweasel

pensfan83 said:

With the exception of some degradation of battery life, our Galaxy S7's are still working perfectly. Haven't really thought about upgrading at this point though if we did we'll likely go with S10's.

We are two peas in a pod, I also have the Galaxy S7 and have no plans on upgrading anytime soon.

snakeweasel

nyccarguy said:

For those of you who don't tune into CCBA, I leased a 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport. Took delivery on Tuesday. I'm selling my Infiniti to Carvana.

Aren't you required to have something like a red flag hanging off of anything protruding that far off the back?

stickguy

OF, I used carvana because they offered more than anyone else. They were enough higher than the dealer I bought at it more than offset the potential sales tax savings.

Plus it is easy.

imidazol97

snakeweasel said:

pensfan83 said:

With the exception of some degradation of battery life, our Galaxy S7's are still working perfectly. Haven't really thought about upgrading at this point though if we did we'll likely go with S10's.

We are two peas in a pod, I also have the Galaxy S7 and have no plans on upgrading anytime soon.

My Galaxy J7 is also working fine along with my wife's.
Android seems so much easier than all the drama some go through with their Apple
products with the supposely slowing down older phones to "save battery power" which actually
encouraged folks to get rid of their slower product.

Just like with cars, drive what you like.

snakeweasel

imidazol97 said:

snakeweasel said:

pensfan83 said:

With the exception of some degradation of battery life, our Galaxy S7's are still working perfectly. Haven't really thought about upgrading at this point though if we did we'll likely go with S10's.

We are two peas in a pod, I also have the Galaxy S7 and have no plans on upgrading anytime soon.

My Galaxy J7 is also working fine along with my wife's.
Android seems so much easier than all the drama some go through with their Apple
products with the supposely slowing down older phones to "save battery power" which actually
encouraged folks to get rid of their slower product.

Just like with cars, drive what you like.

I went from an iPhone to the Galaxy and I dont see me going back.

jmonroe1

omarman said:

abacomike said:

According to news reports, next year (2020 NFL season), the Dolphins already have 3 1st round draft choices and an available 100 million dollar salary cap. In 2021, they have 4 more 1st round picks. But they admit this year will be most unfortunate for fans. TELL ME ABOUT IT!🤪😜😂

“We can’t win at home and we can’t win on the road,” John McKay once said. “What we need is a neutral site.”

That's good but John Mckay's best quote was when he was asked about his Tampa Bay Buccaneer's execution, he responded, "I'm all for it".

jmonroe

tjc78

Wife’s 11 Pro Max should be arriving today... I’m loading along with a 7+

Too much stuff going on right now to worry about it. It’s working fine so not messing with it

My daughter threw my wife’s X leaving it wii a green line so it had to go

jmonroe1

thebean said:

stickguy said:

Her sister has a Forester. So that probably comes into play. But mostly it is not "fancy" enough for her I don't think. Though I suppose when we stop at the dealer to look at the OB, can show her the new design Forester. But no hot rod engine is an issue.

Wow, I hate to point this out, but you sure got yourself a high maintenance wife. Just kidding, of course. Most wives are high maintenance. 😄

Really? And how many years did it take for that to hit you?

jmonroe

stickguy

after having an Android tablet for a while, I learned to despise it. the iPad was so much better, and we had already switched to iPhones, so not likely we are going back.

jmonroe1

ab348 said:

cdnpinhead said:

Face it 348, you're never going to get the last word. Many have gone before you.

Nah, I know that’s impossible. I’m just trying to make him realize that posting useless clickbait sites with articles like that just make him look silly.

And what makes you think he cares about that?

jmonroe

suydam

I still have the 6s. I always wait a few weeks to download an update. Let other folks find the bugs. There’s already a small fix to the IOS13. Plus it takes minutes rather than hours once the initial rush subsides.

ab348

stickguy said:

after having an Android tablet for a while, I learned to despise it. the iPad was so much better, and we had already switched to iPhones, so not likely we are going back.

My cheapskate brother has both an Android tablet and a Surface. The Android is total junk and the Surface is now also acting up. I am happy here with my iPad.

I have an iPhone 7 I just got a little over a year ago. It works fine and is fast enough for what I do on it which isn't much. I accidentally activated Apple CarPlay today and was stumped by what to do with it. In fairness I didn't take a lot of time trying to figure it all out.

nyccarguy

@olodfarmer50 - Nope. It is a personal vehicle. I use it for commuting purposes. Not a write off at all. Commercial insurance is very expensive and then I couldn't drive it on the "parkways," and only on the Interstate & designated truck routes.

@snakeweasel - Correct. I should have.

thebean

jmonroe1 said:

thebean said:

stickguy said:

Her sister has a Forester. So that probably comes into play. But mostly it is not "fancy" enough for her I don't think. Though I suppose when we stop at the dealer to look at the OB, can show her the new design Forester. But no hot rod engine is an issue.

Wow, I hate to point this out, but you sure got yourself a high maintenance wife. Just kidding, of course. Most wives are high maintenance. 😄

Really? And how many years did it take for that to hit you?

jmonroe

Really, about two. I’ve been married so many years that I don’t even notice it any more.

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

OF, I used carvana because they offered more than anyone else. They were enough higher than the dealer I bought at it more than offset the potential sales tax savings.

Plus it is easy.

Same here. Carvana gave me $2,251 more than the dealer offered, and he didn't budge one penny, for Mrs. j's 2012 Legacy this past April. All I needed was $700 more to break even for tax purposes. If there was ever a no brainer, that was it.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

thebean said:

jmonroe1 said:

thebean said:

stickguy said:

Her sister has a Forester. So that probably comes into play. But mostly it is not "fancy" enough for her I don't think. Though I suppose when we stop at the dealer to look at the OB, can show her the new design Forester. But no hot rod engine is an issue.

Wow, I hate to point this out, but you sure got yourself a high maintenance wife. Just kidding, of course. Most wives are high maintenance. 😄

Really? And how many years did it take for that to hit you?

jmonroe

Really, about two. I’ve been married so many years that I don’t even notice it any more.

Yeah, I know what you mean. It kinda grows on you but that doesn't mean it isn't a large growth.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

nyccarguy said:

@olodfarmer50 - Nope. It is a personal vehicle. I use it for commuting purposes. Not a write off at all. Commercial insurance is very expensive and then I couldn't drive it on the "parkways," and only on the Interstate & designated truck routes.

@snakeweasel - Correct. I should have.

Oh yes, those Parkways are a killer in your area. I ran the chance of a ticket taking a cargo van on one when we delivered a bunch to FedEx in White Plains. I had no choice as my GPS wouldn’t give me any other route.