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stickguy

venture said:

We went to meet my son and his wife at the kids' pre-school yesterday. The 3 year-old is staying over night. Anywho...when venture jr. turned off his Land Rover to get out, the whole car lowered itself about 2 inches.

Sort of weird, but useful - I guess.

the issue, being a land rover, is if it was supposed to do it.

venture

stickguy said:

venture said:

We went to meet my son and his wife at the kids' pre-school yesterday. The 3 year-old is staying over night. Anywho...when venture jr. turned off his Land Rover to get out, the whole car lowered itself about 2 inches.

Sort of weird, but useful - I guess.

the issue, being a land rover, is if it was supposed to do it.

I waited until he started to leave to see if it went back up. It did.

It's not very old so things haven't started giving him problems - not that it is a requirement.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

stickguy said:

vapor lock, freezing in the winter, dealing with a choke. That goes way back. But I honestly can't recall ever having to deal with a fuel pump. My oldest car was a 1967 (6 cylinder Camaro) that was replace by a 74/75 Duster. So I never really dealt with the truly old stuff.

Those cars you mentioned had mechanical fuel pumps. They were pretty reliable given the mechanical beasts that they were. I think I only had to change 3 of them with all the cars I had. I’m pretty sure my ‘95 Bonneville was the first car I owned that had an electrical fuel pump that was in the gas tank.

jmonroe

You haven't lived until you have started a car in cold weather and had to step on the gas pedal once and then skillfully use the choke or the car would install, and the most exciting part was when you flooded the engine. Then had to keep your foot on the gas pedal to clear it and try starting it again. Those were the good old days when cars were cars.

It sounds like you shoulda called the guy on those cold days.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

venture said:

stickguy said:

venture said:

We went to meet my son and his wife at the kids' pre-school yesterday. The 3 year-old is staying over night. Anywho...when venture jr. turned off his Land Rover to get out, the whole car lowered itself about 2 inches.

Sort of weird, but useful - I guess.

the issue, being a land rover, is if it was supposed to do it.

I waited until he started to leave to see if it went back up. It did.

It's not very old so things haven't started giving him problems - not that it is a requirement.

The hell it ain’t. 😟

jmonroe

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

stickguy said:

vapor lock, freezing in the winter, dealing with a choke. That goes way back. But I honestly can't recall ever having to deal with a fuel pump. My oldest car was a 1967 (6 cylinder Camaro) that was replace by a 74/75 Duster. So I never really dealt with the truly old stuff.

Those cars you mentioned had mechanical fuel pumps. They were pretty reliable given the mechanical beasts that they were. I think I only had to change 3 of them with all the cars I had. I’m pretty sure my ‘95 Bonneville was the first car I owned that had an electrical fuel pump that was in the gas tank.

jmonroe

You haven't lived until you have started a car in cold weather and had to step on the gas pedal once and then skillfully use the choke or the car would install, and the most exciting part was when you flooded the engine. Then had to keep your foot on the gas pedal to clear it and try starting it again. Those were the good old days when cars were cars.

It sounds like you shoulda called the guy on those cold days.

jmonroe

I couldn't afford "The Guy" in those days.

imidazol97

Just another "feature" to go bad. I see an MB around the area that's sitting on it's wheels almost because of an air ride feature that's gone bad.

I used to marvel at the windows on a TTS owned by a middle-aged guy who gets coffee at the same quick market store I do. It lower the windows a 1/4 inch when the doors are being shut, then puts them back up to seal...

He replaced it with a more dependable vehicle, CTS. Both purchased on the internet. He's had the CTS for at least 4 years.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

I saw about 10 skids of supplies that were shipped in for the convenience store...3 skids of food and supplies, 7 skids of beer.

Well at least they have their priorities in order.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

stickguy said:

vapor lock, freezing in the winter, dealing with a choke. That goes way back. But I honestly can't recall ever having to deal with a fuel pump. My oldest car was a 1967 (6 cylinder Camaro) that was replace by a 74/75 Duster. So I never really dealt with the truly old stuff.

Those cars you mentioned had mechanical fuel pumps. They were pretty reliable given the mechanical beasts that they were. I think I only had to change 3 of them with all the cars I had. I’m pretty sure my ‘95 Bonneville was the first car I owned that had an electrical fuel pump that was in the gas tank.

jmonroe

You haven't lived until you have started a car in cold weather and had to step on the gas pedal once and then skillfully use the choke or the car would install, and the most exciting part was when you flooded the engine. Then had to keep your foot on the gas pedal to clear it and try starting it again. Those were the good old days when cars were cars.

Yeah those were the good old days not like the crappy cars they make today where they start right up in cold weather and don't stall and have no choke that you have to skillfully use and you could drive right after starting.

snakeweasel

imidazol97 said:

Just another "feature" to go bad. I see an MB around the area that's sitting on it's wheels almost because of an air ride feature that's gone bad.

I used to marvel at the windows on a TTS owned by a middle-aged guy who gets coffee at the same quick market store I do. It lower the windows a 1/4 inch when the doors are being shut, then puts them back up to seal...

He replaced it with a more dependable vehicle, CTS. Both purchased on the internet. He's had the CTS for at least 4 years.

I would suspect that any car these days that doesn't have a complete window frame around the window would do that. The problem I found with that is that at times in freezing rain or slushy snow that freezes you will get ice at the bottom of the window that prevents the window from going down and as such prevents you from opening the door. So either have an ice scraper outside the car you can use to remove the ice or have a remote start to warm up the car and melt the ice.

fintail

Probably a W220 (S-class MY 2000-2006). Especially on 00-02 models, the air suspension is a guaranteed fail point at some time. A replacement part apparently is a permanent fix, but isn't cheap, a couple grand to do every wheel, I think.

Some E-class from 03+ also have this, but it seems to fail less on those cars. S-class since then also have it, but it fails far less often.

imidazol97 said:

Just another "feature" to go bad. I see an MB around the area that's sitting on it's wheels almost because of an air ride feature that's gone bad.

I used to marvel at the windows on a TTS owned by a middle-aged guy who gets coffee at the same quick market store I do. It lower the windows a 1/4 inch when the doors are being shut, then puts them back up to seal...

He replaced it with a more dependable vehicle, CTS. Both purchased on the internet. He's had the CTS for at least 4 years.

imidazol97

snakeweasel said:

imidazol97 said:

Just another "feature" to go bad. I see an MB around the area that's sitting on it's wheels almost because of an air ride feature that's gone bad.

I used to marvel at the windows on a TTS owned by a middle-aged guy who gets coffee at the same quick market store I do. It lower the windows a 1/4 inch when the doors are being shut, then puts them back up to seal...

He replaced it with a more dependable vehicle, CTS. Both purchased on the internet. He's had the CTS for at least 4 years.

I would suspect that any car these days that doesn't have a complete window frame around the window would do that. The problem I found with that is that at times in freezing rain or slushy snow that freezes you will get ice at the bottom of the window that prevents the window from going down and as such prevents you from opening the door. So either have an ice scraper outside the car you can use to remove the ice or have a remote start to warm up the car and melt the ice.

I saw it as a novel device that could fail and cause problems. It was fun to watch: I'd be sitting in my car listening to talk radio and sipping my flavored decaf coffee when he would unlock the doors. The windows jerk down slightly, he opens door, gets in, and when door closes the window moves up slightly.

It was to get a really good seal around the door frame.

abacomike

The skies are dark and ominous looking and very windy right now. Forecast is for rain and thunderstorms throughout the day and night. Tomorrow, the tropical storm/hurricane (whatever it becomes after it crosses Cuba) is expected to hit us in South Florida with torrential rains and heavy winds. This is supposedly going to be a flooding event in that 6-10 inches of rain is expected with Eta for us in Miami/Dade and Broward Counties. We are going to be on the "dirty" side of the storm where the rains and winds are more severe.

According to the National Hurricane Center in Miami, the storm is strengthening and could become a category 1 hurricane after passing Cuba. The "Cone of Uncertainty" shows the southeast coast of Florida (Miami, Ft. Lauderdale and Palm Beach) in the storms path. This storm is not going to skirt us - they are expecting a direct hit. The scout planes they use to determine strength of a tropical storm/hurricane collected data showing wind gusting over 80 mph as it continues to strengthen. Pressure (millibars) is dropping rather quickly showing that strengthening.

I just put my hurricane shutters down on my terrace and will eventually place a half dozen towels up against the bottom of my front door just in case the winds come from the southwest. This is not much fun, guys!

nyccarguy

@driver100 - not my cup of tea where your son lives for sure, but it must be very peaceful & tranquil. I’m sure it is gorgeous there too!

roadburner

mjfloyd1 said:

jmonroe1 said:

stickguy said:

vapor lock, freezing in the winter, dealing with a choke. That goes way back. But I honestly can't recall ever having to deal with a fuel pump. My oldest car was a 1967 (6 cylinder Camaro) that was replace by a 74/75 Duster. So I never really dealt with the truly old stuff.

Those cars you mentioned had mechanical fuel pumps. They were pretty reliable given the mechanical beasts that they were. I think I only had to change 3 of them with all the cars I had. I’m pretty sure my ‘95 Bonneville was the first car I owned that had an electrical fuel pump that was in the gas tank.

jmonroe

I changed the mechanical fuel pump on my 63 corvette a couple of summers ago. What an interesting job. I clamped the fuel line with two clamps - not very well. I had gas running down my arm and into my armpit then down my side and into my underwear. Awkward.

Such a pain trying to get the actuator rod to stay in while you attach the fuel pump itself.
At least it is working...

I always used a dab of grease to stick the rod to the camshaft.

roadburner

Today I tackled the cloudy headlights on the Clubman. I did some research and decided on using the Sylvania Headlight Restoration Kit- $20.00 from Amazon:


Of course, we all know DIY automotive work is extremely dangerous, so I kept this close by during the entire process:


Before:



After:

kyfdx

Looks good. Glass shop did the headlight cover on the Fit, last year. $50 for one side. Looked as good as new. But, 8 months later, and it was 70% of the way back to the way it was before. (very, very cloudy)

roadburner

kyfdx said:

Looks good. Glass shop did the headlight cover on the Fit, last year. $50 for one side. Looked as good as new. But, 8 months later, and it was 70% of the way back to the way it was before. (very, very cloudy)

This kit came with a UV coating that is applied as the final step. You have to let the coating set up for at least four hours; I'm leaving it overnight. Sylvania guarantees the results for life. Consumer Reports said the kit "provided the greatest improvement in illumination and appearance with no noticeable degradation over time."
We will see.

28firefighter

Looks great, RB!

kyfdx

roadburner said:

kyfdx said:

Looks good. Glass shop did the headlight cover on the Fit, last year. $50 for one side. Looked as good as new. But, 8 months later, and it was 70% of the way back to the way it was before. (very, very cloudy)

This kit came with a UV coating that is applied as the final step. You have to let the coating set up for at least four hours; I'm leaving it overnight. Sylvania guarantees the results for life. Consumer Reports said the kit "provided the greatest improvement in illumination and appearance with no noticeable degradation over time."
We will see.

Yeah.. the glass shop said they use a sealer that makes their job last longer than a detail shop. Hope your job lasts.. It looks great.

I sold the Fit, so there is that. lol

jmonroe1

roadburner said:

Today I tackled the cloudy headlights on the Clubman. I did some research and decided on using the Sylvania Headlight Restoration Kit- $20.00 from Amazon:


Of course, we all know DIY automotive work is extremely dangerous, so I kept this close by during the entire process:


Before:



After:

Don’t forget to call “The Guy” to pull the pin before using it.😳

jmonroe

mjfloyd1

roadburner said:

mjfloyd1 said:

jmonroe1 said:

stickguy said:

vapor lock, freezing in the winter, dealing with a choke. That goes way back. But I honestly can't recall ever having to deal with a fuel pump. My oldest car was a 1967 (6 cylinder Camaro) that was replace by a 74/75 Duster. So I never really dealt with the truly old stuff.

Those cars you mentioned had mechanical fuel pumps. They were pretty reliable given the mechanical beasts that they were. I think I only had to change 3 of them with all the cars I had. I’m pretty sure my ‘95 Bonneville was the first car I owned that had an electrical fuel pump that was in the gas tank.

jmonroe

I changed the mechanical fuel pump on my 63 corvette a couple of summers ago. What an interesting job. I clamped the fuel line with two clamps - not very well. I had gas running down my arm and into my armpit then down my side and into my underwear. Awkward.

Such a pain trying to get the actuator rod to stay in while you attach the fuel pump itself.
At least it is working...

I always used a dab of grease to stick the rod to the camshaft.

I finally figured that out. I was born December of 1964 so it was a new experience for me!

fintail

I'll have to try that headlight cleaner on my mom's Camry. As it ages, one of the lights now gets a little haze over time - only the passenger light, for some reason. I clean it when I visit, but a few months later the haze returns.

driver100

nyccarguy said:

@driver100 - not my cup of tea where your son lives for sure, but it must be very peaceful & tranquil. I’m sure it is gorgeous there too!

Not my cup of tea either nyc. I call them back to the earth people, for many years they didn't have TV, kids could only have wooden toys, built a lot of their own home which overlooks the river - some days can see whales, goes fishing in the early morning and catches salmon and shrimp, he always drove old cars that he somehow could keep running.....nice that there are such people around.

Michaell

I've used a similar product on our old CX-7. Seemed to do a pretty decent job.

I did it without a safety net. Turns out our fire extinguishers are expired.

jmonroe1

Michaell said:

I've used a similar product on our old CX-7. Seemed to do a pretty decent job.

I did it without a safety net. Turns out our fire extinguishers are expired.

And then there are some folks that expire before they get the hang of being a DIYer.

jmonroe

roadburner

fintail said:

I'll have to try that headlight cleaner on my mom's Camry. As it ages, one of the lights now gets a little haze over time - only the passenger light, for some reason. I clean it when I visit, but a few months later the haze returns.

Just set aside a couple of hours to do both headlights. Follow the directions and you should achieve the same results. I didn’t have to mask any bodywork so that saved me some time.

oldfarmer50

roadburner said:

Today I tackled the cloudy headlights on the Clubman. I did some research and decided on using the Sylvania Headlight Restoration Kit- $20.00 from Amazon:


Of course, we all know DIY automotive work is extremely dangerous, so I kept this close by during the entire process:


Before:



After:

That’s very nice, they look new.

This weekend I rebuilt the bottom of one of the van doors that had pretty much disintegrated. It was a challenge to reform the bottom 4 inches with Bondo and spray foam as backing. Looks like a hillbilly hack job but it keeps the critters out.

I’d post pics but ever since Apple installed a software update I can’t use Edmunds system.

imidazol97

I tried one kit on my 08 Cobalt several times. Always was not great results and clouded back up.

I found what works best: I bought new headlamps out of the multitude of choices on Ebay. They're lasted years now without clouding up.

oldfarmer50

kyfdx said:

Looks good. Glass shop did the headlight cover on the Fit, last year. $50 for one side. Looked as good as new. But, 8 months later, and it was 70% of the way back to the way it was before. (very, very cloudy)

Did the shop put a clear coat over the lenses? Otherwise I hear they oxidize from UV pretty quick.

carnaught

@abacomike, stay safe there in S. Fl.!

tjc78

stickguy said:

we hit Pour House for the first time since March. Darn, I missed that place. it was wonderful A couple nice local NJ crafts too.

I like it there! They make a good smoked Old Fashioned.

tjc78

venture said:

tjc78 said:

stickguy said:

tjc78 said:

House update ... my old home is sold! Money was just wired into our account. What a wild ride!

congrats. must be quite the relief. Now go have a TGIF happy hour refreshment!

Thanks Everyone!

Yes a few drinks tonight for sure!

Isn't that how you got into all this to begin with?

LMAO. No that’s how I have a park model trailer by the Jersey Shore!

ab348

Did an end-of-season oil & filter change on the Cutlass today. Given the nice weather I think I will take it out for one last cruise tomorrow, put in some Stabil and fill it to the brim, then put it away for the winter. Given that it was -6C with 4" of snow here on Tuesday the good weather is a definite exception and won't last long.

Funny thing: I noticed over the last year or so that the ride height on it up front had finally come back to normal. Even since some front end work got done a number of years ago (10?) it had sat a bit high up front. For whatever reason it has now come back to where it should be. The downside to that is that doing an oil change without putting it up on stands is now a lot more difficult, but I got it done.

roadburner

imidazol97 said:

I tried one kit on my 08 Cobalt several times. Always was not great results and clouded back up.

I found what works best: I bought new headlamps out of the multitude of choices on Ebay. They're lasted years now without clouding up.

New headlights for the Clubman are $257 per side. $514 vs. $20 and a couple of hours of effort wasn't a difficult choice.

pensfan83

Forecast is sunny and 60s/70s here until the later part of next week. It's delayed the storage of both cars as a result, not a bad thing since I'm still waiting on a cover for the BMW.

roadburner

I also spent a couple of hours cleaning up the 2 Series and addressing some cosmetic issues. It turned out so well that it actually tamped down my desire for something different to replace it. A drive into Louisville for dinner reinforced the feeling. Maybe an M2C when the CPO prices drop under $50k...

imidazol97

roadburner said:

imidazol97 said:

I tried one kit on my 08 Cobalt several times. Always was not great results and clouded back up.

I found what works best: I bought new headlamps out of the multitude of choices on Ebay. They're lasted years now without clouding up.

New headlights for the Clubman are $257 per side. $514 vs. $20 and a couple of hours of effort wasn't a difficult choice.

I hope it lasts longer for you than my trials lasted. I shopped ebay and read reviews for what they were worth. Weren't the cheapest offered but brand was slightly different and has slight smoked tone to plastic. I believe it was about $100-125 total for both sides.

Big difference in cost for Clubman vs Cobalt in aftermarket. But they came wired and with bulbs.

graphicguy

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

I think over the course of the few months I was doing transports, there were some cars that I liked, and others that I wouldn’t waste money on. I drove the ILX, RDX, TLX (both old version and new version), MDX, Corolla, Camry, Avalon, Civic, CRV, Accord, Altima, Maxima, Impala, Malibu, Traverse, Cruze, Bolt, Silverado, F150, Explorer..

My faves? The ones I’d consider spending my own money on?

-Avalon....like the Camry, just a little more of everything. Can’t understand why someone would pay more for a Lexus over the Avalon
Everything else? Wouldn’t waste my time, nor my money.

Enjoyed reading your mini impressions on the cars you have driven. I would like to know why you didn't like the ones you didn't comment on...if you get the chance and can remember.
I can answer the Lexus vs Avalon question though.....a lot of people want the one with a prestigious name, not the old man's car.

@driver100 ....obviously personal opinion. But, the others I drove were either compromised in some way (drivetrain, price, suspension) compared to the others. Camry XSE V6, for example. Is it the fastest in its price category? No, but it does have a smoothness that is usually more like a Lexus. Same for the Avalon, only with more equipment and better materials.

F150 is so good for what it does. I don’t need or want one. But, if you need a full size pickup, it’s the best of the bunch that I drove.

There is such a big difference in driving the RDX vs a Chevy Traverse, it’s not even close. Yet, the couple of Traverse’s I transported had MSRPs that were equal to, or exceeded the RDX. Again, material quality, driveline, etc on the RDX were head and shoulders better than the Traverse.

Just some of the examples.

graphicguy

tjc78 said:

House update ... my old home is sold! Money was just wired into our account. What a wild ride!

Yay!!!!! Congrats!

driver100

graphicguy said:

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

I think over the course of the few months I was doing transports, there were some cars that I liked, and others that I wouldn’t waste money on. I drove the ILX, RDX, TLX (both old version and new version), MDX, Corolla, Camry, Avalon, Civic, CRV, Accord, Altima, Maxima, Impala, Malibu, Traverse, Cruze, Bolt, Silverado, F150, Explorer..

My faves? The ones I’d consider spending my own money on?

-Avalon....like the Camry, just a little more of everything. Can’t understand why someone would pay more for a Lexus over the Avalon
Everything else? Wouldn’t waste my time, nor my money.

Enjoyed reading your mini impressions on the cars you have driven. I would like to know why you didn't like the ones you didn't comment on...if you get the chance and can remember.
I can answer the Lexus vs Avalon question though.....a lot of people want the one with a prestigious name, not the old man's car.

@driver100 ....obviously personal opinion.

Just some of the examples.

a) how do you do the @driver100 in blue....which everyone seems to be able to do?
b) I like the comments like comparing the Tranverse to the RDX or the comments about the Camry. Opinions from a knowledgeable but average person (you know what I mean....common, normal person etc.) probably mean more to me than a paid reviewer. If I was in the market for a truck I would definitely keep in mind what you said about an F-150, and same with the other cars mentioned. Maybe your next profession could be giving 5 minute comparison reviews.....kinda like Scotty but with a lot more polish.

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

a) how do you do the @driver100 in blue....which everyone seems to be able to do?

Just put a "@" in front of the members name and it creates a hyperlink to the members profile.

Like @snakeweasel

kyfdx

oldfarmer50 said:

kyfdx said:

Looks good. Glass shop did the headlight cover on the Fit, last year. $50 for one side. Looked as good as new. But, 8 months later, and it was 70% of the way back to the way it was before. (very, very cloudy)

Did the shop put a clear coat over the lenses? Otherwise I hear they oxidize from UV pretty quick.

Yes... only did one lens, as the other had obviously been replaced at some point. Was amazed at the results, but with the other one being new, it was easy to see the degradation after 8-9 months.

The cosmetics didn't bother me, but it was cloudy enough that it affected the headlight quality.. Not my problem, now!

kyfdx

imidazol97 said:

roadburner said:

imidazol97 said:

I tried one kit on my 08 Cobalt several times. Always was not great results and clouded back up.

I found what works best: I bought new headlamps out of the multitude of choices on Ebay. They're lasted years now without clouding up.

New headlights for the Clubman are $257 per side. $514 vs. $20 and a couple of hours of effort wasn't a difficult choice.

I hope it lasts longer for you than my trials lasted. I shopped ebay and read reviews for what they were worth. Weren't the cheapest offered but brand was slightly different and has slight smoked tone to plastic. I believe it was about $100-125 total for both sides.

Big difference in cost for Clubman vs Cobalt in aftermarket. But they came wired and with bulbs.

Yeah... cheapest aftermarket lens for the Fit was nearly $200. Plus, they are body color specific. Just not worth it on a $4K car.

carnaught

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

a) how do you do the @driver100 in blue....which everyone seems to be able to do?

Just put a "@" in front of the members name and it creates a hyperlink to the members profile.

Like @snakeweasel

Other Forum technical questions...
a. when posting a link, how do you shorten it and put in different words for the link?
b. How do you change a string of quotes making it shorter but still able to display if desired?

driver100

Just put a "@" in front of the members name and it creates a hyperlink to the memb@snakeweasel
Like @snakeweasel

Thanks for the tip!

snakeweasel

carnaught said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

a) how do you do the @driver100 in blue....which everyone seems to be able to do?

Just put a "@" in front of the members name and it creates a hyperlink to the members profile.

Like @snakeweasel

Other Forum technical questions...
a. when posting a link, how do you shorten it and put in different words for the link?

Simply type in the word or words you want to have as a link, highlight the word(s) and above the comment box next to the Emotorcons is a button that looks like a very short chain. Click on that and there will be a box that you put the URL for the page you want to link to, I did that for this A. Lincoln quote. And this explanation of why it rains after you wash your car. Yeah I am having fun doing this.

carnaught said:

b. How do you change a string of quotes making it shorter but still able to display if desired?

Not to sure, I know that if there are more than one quote it automatically displays the last quote and allows you to show previous ones. What I wish was that there was a way to go directly to any post that quoted a post from the quoted post. That way one could see if a question was already answered without going through every post after it.

bwia

Well, I took the plunge and purchased a Chinese made (sorry LG and Samsung) 4k, 65" TCL QLED TV for $1,584, including delivery, set-up and removal of packaging and old TV. Here is the manufacturer's hype.

"The brilliant blacks and captivating colors of the 65-inch TCL QLED TV offer a spectacular, immersive viewing experience. The Quantum Dot technology includes 1.07 billion colors which creates a strikingly lifelike picture with stunning richness and clarity. The TCL 8-Series TV's mini-LED backlight display technology and Contrast Control Zones provide a high degree of precision, smoothness, uniformity, brightness, and illumination. All this on a FullView edge-to-edge glass display set on a T-pedestal stand designed for style and stability. Four HDMI ports and one USB let you connect multiple devices."

driver100

Sounds impressive. Does it have a brand name or is it a No-Name product. Where did you buy it? What made you buy this one compared to the others? Questions....questions?????????

bwia

Did any of you guys felt an earthquake about 9:00 am EST this morning? Don't know if the entire house shook but we heard a loud noise as dishes, and pots & pans rattled. It lasted for about 15 seconds and then all went quiet.

bwia

driver100 said:

Sounds impressive. Does it have a brand name or is it a No-Name product. Where did you buy it? What made you buy this one compared to the others? Questions....questions?????????

I bought it at Best Buy and the company is TCL. I understand they are now dominating the low-end market segment around the world and this QLED model, the TCL 8-Series mini-LED, is their flagship competing directly with Sony, LG and Samsung.