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driver100

graphicguy said:

So, not sure what I should think, if anything, but my Stinger has been in the dealership’s service dept for the potential fire recall for a week. Talked to them Wednesday, and they said they were waiting for Kia corporate to give them the OK to fix it. Huh?
.

GG, do you have an enemy who tries to sabotage your cars..........this is sounding like the Cadillac debacle?

Tell them you will trade the Tellirude for a K 900

We'd like to know your impressions of this model.

fintail

If you think that's something, just a few years later you could get this schnoz:

driver100 said:

Agreed. The question was whether T-Bird had a hardtop/convertible so I showed the T-Bird that did. It wasn't available in the 4-seater models. By 67 the T-Bird became a bit of a porker (covert no longer available)....though look at the length of that hood!

driver100

Just noticed, they stole the tailights and the whole car from a 2017 Mercedes E400

fintail

Could happen. For years the 300 survived because it was the default Hertz "luxury" offering. Today, that slot seems to be filled with BMWs and Cadillacs.

sda said:

I have a suspicion the Chrysler name is being edged out. Once the 300 is discontinued I would be surprised if they didn't rebadge the Pacifica, no more Chrysler...especially after this next merger is completed.

imidazol97

driver100 said:

Just noticed, they stole the tailights and the whole car from a 2017 Mercedes E400

That's an E300.

Nobody noticed when Honda accord stole the Chevy Impala design.

tjc78

driver100 said:

Just noticed, they stole the tailights and the whole car from a 2017 Mercedes E400

You think everyone stole things from MB.

fintail

Which in turn is related design-wise to the W222 S-class, production starting in 2013:



Everyone wants to be MB!

driver100 said:

Just noticed, they stole the tailights and the whole car from a 2017 Mercedes E400

ab348

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

So, not sure what I should think, if anything, but my Stinger has been in the dealership’s service dept for the potential fire recall for a week. Talked to them Wednesday, and they said they were waiting for Kia corporate to give them the OK to fix it. Huh?
.

GG, do you have an enemy who tries to sabotage your cars..........this is sounding like the Cadillac debacle?

Tell them you will trade the Tellirude for a K 900

We'd like to know your impressions of this model.

Known as the K9 in its homeland. I hear it's a real dog.

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

driver100 said:

Just noticed, they stole the tailights and the whole car from a 2017 Mercedes E400

You think everyone stole things from MB.

Now you know how I feel about Bentley stealing the badge from Genesis.

Just yesterday when I went to the auto parts to get one of those temperature gauges to read the temp of the air of my ductwork in my house because somehow I misplaced the one I had, the guy at the counter asked if that was a Bentley in the parking lot. The last guy to ask me about that was the guy at the Firestone store right after I bought my ‘15 Genny and noticed a slight shimmy but it turned out to be the OEM Yokohama tires that were eventually recalled.

I’m getting a little tired of having to explain that I don’t own a Bentley.😫

jmonroe

imidazol97

The Hyunda version was on display out front of the local Hyunda store yesterday when I snooped around their lot to see how the Elantra look. Not sure I can tolerate a Sonata styling.

The G90, if it's the same as the K9, has a heavy look.

Michaell

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

driver100 said:

Just noticed, they stole the tailights and the whole car from a 2017 Mercedes E400

You think everyone stole things from MB.

Now you know how I feel about Bentley stealing the badge from Genesis.

Just yesterday when I went to the auto parts to get one of those temperature gauges to read the temp of the air of my ductwork in my house because somehow I misplaced the one I had, the guy at the counter asked if that was a Bentley in the parking lot. The last guy to ask me about that was the guy at the Firestone store right after I bought my ‘15 Genny and noticed a slight shimmy but it turned out to be the OEM Yokohama tires that were eventually recalled.

I’m getting a little tired of having to explain that I don’t own a Bentley.😫

jmonroe

Better that than to own a Bentley and have it mistaken for a lowly Hyundai.

jmonroe1

Michaell said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

driver100 said:

Just noticed, they stole the tailights and the whole car from a 2017 Mercedes E400

You think everyone stole things from MB.

Now you know how I feel about Bentley stealing the badge from Genesis.

Just yesterday when I went to the auto parts to get one of those temperature gauges to read the temp of the air of my ductwork in my house because somehow I misplaced the one I had, the guy at the counter asked if that was a Bentley in the parking lot. The last guy to ask me about that was the guy at the Firestone store right after I bought my ‘15 Genny and noticed a slight shimmy but it turned out to be the OEM Yokohama tires that were eventually recalled.

I’m getting a little tired of having to explain that I don’t own a Bentley.😫

jmonroe

Better that than to own a Bentley and have it mistaken for a lowly Hyundai.

It’s not really a Hyundai. We’re being told it’s a Genesis but I think I know what you mean.😳

jmonroe

qbrozen

Got hung up in youtube and watched an old Samcrac video where he buys a lemon lincoln from a dealer. I checked out the dealer's site and some things are kind of interesting.

I could see something like this for my wife's next SUV after her X2 lease. Retail on this should be $38k. Another $1500 off this asking price is a 25% discount. Seems like not such a bad deal as long as the repair history isn't too concerning. https://www.covingtonford.net/used/Lincoln/2019-Lincoln-Nautilus-76cf838d0a0e0ae851df8cc4f429150c.htm

Of course, I'd prefer a 3.5TT Explorer, but this is only about $4k under retail for a former lemon, so not worth the branded title, IMHO. https://www.covingtonford.net/used/Ford/2018-Ford-Explorer-bf6bef680a0e0ae81e2b8a5d69e6d919.htm

qbrozen

LOL. Just saw the follow-up where he talks to the youtube lemon lawyer, who makes some good points about the risks of buying such a car.

driver100

tjc78 said:

driver100 said:

Just noticed, they stole the tailights and the whole car from a 2017 Mercedes E400

You think everyone stole things from MB.

Hyundai/KIA has a habit of doing that......they study other makes, not just MB but others to come up with designs to mimic popular makes. Chief designer came from Audi, that might help explain the European influence.

Sandman6472

My folks had a '75 Pontiac Grand Prix and that front hood was long. It was black with white 1/2 vinyl roof and a blood red pin stripe, it was the owners demo and it looked sharp when clean. The inside had that dark red velour seat fabric. Was fun to drive when we came home for vacation. My folks lived at the country club and went down to one vehicle plus the golf cart. They went through their GM stage for years starting with Cadillacs and Buicks, then moved on to a couple Lincolns, onto Pontiacs for many years and ending with Mercurys, the Grand Marquis in that awful blue 1/2 vinyl roof over white with the continental kit out back! hideous really but my mom loved 'em after my dad passed.

ab348

Kia seems to have problems fixing their cars engines, but they’ve got the revolving door to the Executive suite humming like a well-oiled machine...

Kia COO Leaves After One Week

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

If I’m understanding it right, most Chryslers are really Fiats underneath these days.

? No idea what you are referring to. The Pacifica and 300, the only Chrysler vehicles, have nothing from Fiat.

I believe the only Fiat-linked vehicle in the Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep/Ram lineup is the Renegade.

Yeah, maybe you’re right. I was thinking of the 200.

oldfarmer50

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

driver100 said:

Just noticed, they stole the tailights and the whole car from a 2017 Mercedes E400

You think everyone stole things from MB.

Now you know how I feel about Bentley stealing the badge from Genesis.

Just yesterday when I went to the auto parts to get one of those temperature gauges to read the temp of the air of my ductwork in my house because somehow I misplaced the one I had, the guy at the counter asked if that was a Bentley in the parking lot. The last guy to ask me about that was the guy at the Firestone store right after I bought my ‘15 Genny and noticed a slight shimmy but it turned out to be the OEM Yokohama tires that were eventually recalled.

I’m getting a little tired of having to explain that I don’t own a Bentley.😫

jmonroe

That’s funny, Thursday I saw a real Bentley and at first I thought “that’s a nice 300”.

ab348

Update on the insurance price increase saga: while the company I’ve been with for 23 years jacked my auto premium by $500 for no reason (that’s 40%), their home insurance is remarkably cheap. Yesterday, a week after I got the renewal for that in the mail, I got a duplicate package of documentation for that in the mail, except that they reduced the premium by 15%. Weird. The other issue with TD Insurance is that you cannot reach them either by phone or email. Whether they are overwhelmed with irate customers or not, they simply do not respond.

I had gotten some online quotes but today decided to try a local agent. That was refreshing! Had a very pleasant lady on the line and she got me a quote that is less than half of what TD wanted for car insurance, and I’m waiting on the home quote. It would have to be pretty screwed up for me not to take it. I’m just wondering how to cancel the TD policy if they won’t answer their phones.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

Got hung up in youtube and watched an old Samcrac video where he buys a lemon lincoln from a dealer. I checked out the dealer's site and some things are kind of interesting.

I could see something like this for my wife's next SUV after her X2 lease. Retail on this should be $38k. Another $1500 off this asking price is a 25% discount. Seems like not such a bad deal as long as the repair history isn't too concerning. https://www.covingtonford.net/used/Lincoln/2019-Lincoln-Nautilus-76cf838d0a0e0ae851df8cc4f429150c.htm

Of course, I'd prefer a 3.5TT Explorer, but this is only about $4k under retail for a former lemon, so not worth the branded title, IMHO. https://www.covingtonford.net/used/Ford/2018-Ford-Explorer-bf6bef680a0e0ae81e2b8a5d69e6d919.htm

Is that the video where it left his wife stranded in traffic multiple times? For that one I thought they finally found out it was a bad wire in the harness. I don’t remember if it was fixed or returned.

In any event why would you want a former lemon?

stickguy

roadburner said:

ab348 said:

kyfdx said:

stickguy said:

I never found the gremlin or hornet underpopwered. Sure, they didn't rev high (well, without a tach, I assume they didn't...) But could probably pull a freight train, and you could pretty much leave the 3 speed in 2nd gear and drive anywhere.

Same with my '76 CJ-5 (same engine.. 258 cid) with a 3-speed.

But, the Hornet was a terrible car, and sucked with the automatic.

Introduced in 1970, the Hornet competed with the Chevy Nova, Dodge Dart/Plymouth Valiant, and Ford Maverick.

Our family owned both a Hornet and a Maverick from new. The Hornet was head and shoulders a much better car. It might not have been up to the Nova's level but I have no direct experience. I have driven Darts of that era and while they had a reputation for being reliable and tough they were not particularly refined. I suspect it and the Hornet would be at about the same level overall.

The autobox in our Hornet was a TorqueFlite 904 they bought from Chrysler (I think they called it Torque Command) and it was excellent.

I liked the Hornet S/C 360- one of those Jr. muscle cars like the Rallye 350 and Road Runner 340.

I still really like that 1 year only Ventura based GTO. 350, 4 speed.

stickguy

oldfarmer50 said:

qbrozen said:

Got hung up in youtube and watched an old Samcrac video where he buys a lemon lincoln from a dealer. I checked out the dealer's site and some things are kind of interesting.

I could see something like this for my wife's next SUV after her X2 lease. Retail on this should be $38k. Another $1500 off this asking price is a 25% discount. Seems like not such a bad deal as long as the repair history isn't too concerning. https://www.covingtonford.net/used/Lincoln/2019-Lincoln-Nautilus-76cf838d0a0e0ae851df8cc4f429150c.htm

Of course, I'd prefer a 3.5TT Explorer, but this is only about $4k under retail for a former lemon, so not worth the branded title, IMHO. https://www.covingtonford.net/used/Ford/2018-Ford-Explorer-bf6bef680a0e0ae81e2b8a5d69e6d919.htm

Is that the video where it left his wife stranded in traffic multiple times? For that one I thought they finally found out it was a bad wire in the harness. I don’t remember if it was fixed or returned.

In any event why would you want a former lemon?

they are cheaper. and make much better Youtube content.

Hoovie was pretty upfront about that on some of his videos when talking about cars he is thinning from the herd. Ones that are actually reliable, are too boring and need to go.

jmonroe1

ab348 said:

Update on the insurance price increase saga: while the company I’ve been with for 23 years jacked my auto premium by $500 for no reason (that’s 40%), their home insurance is remarkably cheap. Yesterday, a week after I got the renewal for that in the mail, I got a duplicate package of documentation for that in the mail, except that they reduced the premium by 15%. Weird. The other issue with TD Insurance is that you cannot reach them either by phone or email. Whether they are overwhelmed with irate customers or not, they simply do not respond.

I had gotten some online quotes but today decided to try a local agent. That was refreshing! Had a very pleasant lady on the line and she got me a quote that is less than half of what TD wanted for car insurance, and I’m waiting on the home quote. It would have to be pretty screwed up for me not to take it. I’m just wondering how to cancel the TD policy if they won’t answer their phones.

If you switch to a new company, I’m sure they can handle that or just ignore the new premium notice.

jmonroe

qbrozen

oldfarmer50 said:

qbrozen said:

Got hung up in youtube and watched an old Samcrac video where he buys a lemon lincoln from a dealer. I checked out the dealer's site and some things are kind of interesting.

I could see something like this for my wife's next SUV after her X2 lease. Retail on this should be $38k. Another $1500 off this asking price is a 25% discount. Seems like not such a bad deal as long as the repair history isn't too concerning. https://www.covingtonford.net/used/Lincoln/2019-Lincoln-Nautilus-76cf838d0a0e0ae851df8cc4f429150c.htm

Of course, I'd prefer a 3.5TT Explorer, but this is only about $4k under retail for a former lemon, so not worth the branded title, IMHO. https://www.covingtonford.net/used/Ford/2018-Ford-Explorer-bf6bef680a0e0ae81e2b8a5d69e6d919.htm

Is that the video where it left his wife stranded in traffic multiple times? For that one I thought they finally found out it was a bad wire in the harness. I don’t remember if it was fixed or returned.

In any event why would you want a former lemon?

Did it? I haven’t found those videos yet. He said it was lemon’d originally for that claim, though.

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

ab348 said:

Update on the insurance price increase saga: while the company I’ve been with for 23 years jacked my auto premium by $500 for no reason (that’s 40%), their home insurance is remarkably cheap. Yesterday, a week after I got the renewal for that in the mail, I got a duplicate package of documentation for that in the mail, except that they reduced the premium by 15%. Weird. The other issue with TD Insurance is that you cannot reach them either by phone or email. Whether they are overwhelmed with irate customers or not, they simply do not respond.

I had gotten some online quotes but today decided to try a local agent. That was refreshing! Had a very pleasant lady on the line and she got me a quote that is less than half of what TD wanted for car insurance, and I’m waiting on the home quote. It would have to be pretty screwed up for me not to take it. I’m just wondering how to cancel the TD policy if they won’t answer their phones.

If you switch to a new company, I’m sure they can handle that or just ignore the new premium notice.

jmonroe

Or send them a registered letter if you really want to be sure.....or email customer service and keep a copy of that.
It really pays to check around these days....especially after about 3 years when insurance companies find most people just renew and don't have time to check around.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

qbrozen said:

Got hung up in youtube and watched an old Samcrac video where he buys a lemon lincoln from a dealer. I checked out the dealer's site and some things are kind of interesting.

I could see something like this for my wife's next SUV after her X2 lease. Retail on this should be $38k. Another $1500 off this asking price is a 25% discount. Seems like not such a bad deal as long as the repair history isn't too concerning. https://www.covingtonford.net/used/Lincoln/2019-Lincoln-Nautilus-76cf838d0a0e0ae851df8cc4f429150c.htm

Of course, I'd prefer a 3.5TT Explorer, but this is only about $4k under retail for a former lemon, so not worth the branded title, IMHO. https://www.covingtonford.net/used/Ford/2018-Ford-Explorer-bf6bef680a0e0ae81e2b8a5d69e6d919.htm

Is that the video where it left his wife stranded in traffic multiple times? For that one I thought they finally found out it was a bad wire in the harness. I don’t remember if it was fixed or returned.

In any event why would you want a former lemon?

Did it? I haven’t found those videos yet. He said it was lemon’d originally for that claim, though.

This is the Samcrac video I was thinking of. Same dealer. I don’t know if there were further videos of what became of the car or even if it was fixed properly.

https://youtu.be/2v7j-HjLDaI

graphicguy

qbrozen said:

Got hung up in youtube and watched an old Samcrac video where he buys a lemon lincoln from a dealer. I checked out the dealer's site and some things are kind of interesting.

I could see something like this for my wife's next SUV after her X2 lease. Retail on this should be $38k. Another $1500 off this asking price is a 25% discount. Seems like not such a bad deal as long as the repair history isn't too concerning. https://www.covingtonford.net/used/Lincoln/2019-Lincoln-Nautilus-76cf838d0a0e0ae851df8cc4f429150c.htm

Of course, I'd prefer a 3.5TT Explorer, but this is only about $4k under retail for a former lemon, so not worth the branded title, IMHO. https://www.covingtonford.net/used/Ford/2018-Ford-Explorer-bf6bef680a0e0ae81e2b8a5d69e6d919.htm

IIRC...didn’t SAMCRAC buy that Lincoln as a “lemon law buyback”? He thought the issue with the stalling was the previous owners’ unfamiliarity with start/stop feature. Ended up it did stall all the time and he could not fix it, and finally dumped it. It’s been a while since I saw that on YouTube, so maybe my facts are a little off.

graphicguy

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

So, not sure what I should think, if anything, but my Stinger has been in the dealership’s service dept for the potential fire recall for a week. Talked to them Wednesday, and they said they were waiting for Kia corporate to give them the OK to fix it. Huh?
.

GG, do you have an enemy who tries to sabotage your cars..........this is sounding like the Cadillac debacle?

Tell them you will trade the Tellirude for a K 900

We'd like to know your impressions of this model.

Seems that way. That said, my tolerance for spending 10s of thousands of dollars on any product, and it not operating the way it’s supposed to (like constant stalling or the possibility of catching on fire) is very low.

Went to the Kia store yesterday to drop off the Telluride. Gotta say, it does have strong appeal for those who are in the SUV market. It’s really quite nice, drives better than any SUV I’ve ever driven or even rode in. I think it looks good, inside and out. Handles well (for what it is) and is nicely put together. I’d even be more interested to see ow one of the upmarket ones drives.

Kia service guys were absolutely deferential in their treatment of me. I don’t require that, and I don’t expect it. They said that there seems to be some sort of Kia corporate knots surrounding all vehicles that are subject to the engine fire hazard. As such, they’re inundated. While they don’t “think” I would suffer any sort of fire (they said they hadn’t seen any yet, in any of those they’ve seen affected by the recall), they certainly understood why someone would not want to drive something that had a higher probability to catch on fire.

They gave me a phone number that was tied into Kia Corporate Consumer relations and suggested I talk to them. Not sure why they wanted me to talk to them, but I did. I have a case that’s now open but I don’t know what the purpose of that would be except in the event I would go to arbitration with them, which as of right now, I don’t plan on doing.

In any event, they gave me a previous gen Optima as a loaner. Only 6K miles on it and was probably some sort of manager’s car. It’s the turbo 4 cyl sport model. But, it’s nowhere near as sporty as even the Telluride.

It’s not very fast. The steering is way too light. Brakes are mediocre. It’s ride is floaty. It doesn’t corner particularly well. Interior seems fine. Stereo sux! Can’t seen anyone wanting to buy it, unless it was very cheap (which it probably would be if they ever decided to sell it).

oldfarmer50

Are you really that worried about your safety or is it as you said not wanting to drive a vehicle with even a potential problem after paying many thousands. Me, I’d take the car back with a veiled threat of legal action if anything does happen after you gave them a chance to fix it.

Cars these days are such complex computers on wheels. Yesterday I was in my son’s Fusion and as he pulled out of the driveway the wheels spun a bit on the ice. A second later a CEL came on with a warning to service the Stabilitrac system. The light went off about 30 seconds later but now I’m wondering if that computer is somehow screwed up.

I’ll throw the code reader on it later to see if it set anything.

venture

I don't know if the Steelers are ready for tomorrow night, but the rhino is:

driver100

graphicguy said:

driver100 said:

graphicguy said:

So, not sure what I should think, if anything, but my Stinger has been in the dealership’s service dept for the potential fire recall for a week. Talked to them Wednesday, and they said they were waiting for Kia corporate to give them the OK to fix it. Huh?
.

GG, do you have an enemy who tries to sabotage your cars..........this is sounding like the Cadillac debacle?

Tell them you will trade the Tellirude for a K 900

We'd like to know your impressions of this model.

Seems that way. That said, my tolerance for spending 10s of thousands of dollars on any product, and it not operating the way it’s supposed to (like constant stalling or the possibility of catching on fire) is very low.

When things go wrong I don't have the patience to deal with it unless there isn't an easy out!
Good review of the Tellirude......I have been in a Sorento and it felt as good and solid as an SUV can be, Telli is probably better!
GG, A lot of people are driving around with Takata airbags, including us....we have one in the 2014 C 250. They have the airbags at the dealer, but we aren't there to get the work done. We got the notice to come in a few months ago, but we drove it for over a year the way it is.
The chances of a fire are slim, so I would drive it.....record all the steps you have taken, write to the government auto agency that looks after this, write to Kia so you are covered......make life as normal as possible. Don't worry - you have enough going on.

imidazol97

Those fires are something to worry about.

driver100

imidazol97 said:

Those fires are something to worry about.

If you look up fires for any make of car you will see they happen. Isn't that one a Tesla?

imidazol97

Yup.

My point was car fires, in any vehicle, are something to worry about. I never said any
particular brand was immune. Even Cadillac.

jmonroe1

imidazol97 said:

Yup.

My point was car fires, in any vehicle, are something to worry about. I never said any
particular brand was immune. Even Cadillac.

When you’re talking to him you’re supposed to say even MB.🤓

jmonroe

tjc78

jmonroe1 said:

imidazol97 said:

Yup.

My point was car fires, in any vehicle, are something to worry about. I never said any
particular brand was immune. Even Cadillac.

When you’re talking to him you’re supposed to say even MB.🤓

jmonroe

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

imidazol97 said:

Yup.

My point was car fires, in any vehicle, are something to worry about. I never said any
particular brand was immune. Even Cadillac.

When you’re talking to him you’re supposed to say even MB.🤓

jmonroe

Yep, like that. A picture is worth a thousand words.

jmonroe

ab348

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

imidazol97 said:

Yup.

My point was car fires, in any vehicle, are something to worry about. I never said any
particular brand was immune. Even Cadillac.

When you’re talking to him you’re supposed to say even MB.🤓

jmonroe

Yep, like that. A picture is worth a thousand words.

jmonroe

Is that a Genesis? I can't tell...

jmonroe1

ab348 said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

imidazol97 said:

Yup.

My point was car fires, in any vehicle, are something to worry about. I never said any
particular brand was immune. Even Cadillac.

When you’re talking to him you’re supposed to say even MB.🤓

jmonroe

Yep, like that. A picture is worth a thousand words.

jmonroe

Is that a Genesis? I can't tell...

Genny’s don’t burn...they melt. More environmentally friendly because it saves a lot of pollution.

jmonroe

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

imidazol97 said:

Yup.

My point was car fires, in any vehicle, are something to worry about. I never said any
particular brand was immune. Even Cadillac.

When you’re talking to him you’re supposed to say even MB.🤓

jmonroe

Nah, that would never happen!

driver100

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

imidazol97 said:

Yup.

My point was car fires, in any vehicle, are something to worry about. I never said any
particular brand was immune. Even Cadillac.

When you’re talking to him you’re supposed to say even MB.🤓

jmonroe

Whoops, spoke too soon. Well, the guy must have been smoking to cause that!

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

ab348 said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

imidazol97 said:

Yup.

My point was car fires, in any vehicle, are something to worry about. I never said any
particular brand was immune. Even Cadillac.

When you’re talking to him you’re supposed to say even MB.🤓

jmonroe

Yep, like that. A picture is worth a thousand words.

jmonroe

Is that a Genesis? I can't tell...

Genny’s don’t burn...they melt. More environmentally friendly because it saves a lot of pollution.

jmonroe

One month old G80 goes up in flames;

They think it ran over something on the highway that got stuck, caused friction and a spark, and then the car went up in flames. Samething must have happened to the MB I am sure

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

ab348 said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

imidazol97 said:

Yup.

My point was car fires, in any vehicle, are something to worry about. I never said any
particular brand was immune. Even Cadillac.

When you’re talking to him you’re supposed to say even MB.🤓

jmonroe

Yep, like that. A picture is worth a thousand words.

jmonroe

Is that a Genesis? I can't tell...

Genny’s don’t burn...they melt. More environmentally friendly because it saves a lot of pollution.

jmonroe

One month old G80 goes up in flames;

They think it ran over something on the highway that got stuck, caused friction and a spark, and then the car went up in flames. Samething must have happened to the MB I am sure

Looks like a Bentley to me.🤣

jmonroe

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

ab348 said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

imidazol97 said:

Yup.

My point was car fires, in any vehicle, are something to worry about. I never said any
particular brand was immune. Even Cadillac.

When you’re talking to him you’re supposed to say even MB.🤓

jmonroe

Yep, like that. A picture is worth a thousand words.

jmonroe

Is that a Genesis? I can't tell...

Genny’s don’t burn...they melt. More environmentally friendly because it saves a lot of pollution.

jmonroe

One month old G80 goes up in flames;

They think it ran over something on the highway that got stuck, caused friction and a spark, and then the car went up in flames. Samething must have happened to the MB I am sure

Looks like a Bentley to me.🤣

jmonroe

Nice try....2021 G80
https://carbuzz.com/news/brand-new-2021-genesis-g80-catches-fire

imidazol97

Naaah. Mercedes must have stolen the Genesis grill design.

That looks like an expensive MB model. I'd think they would be built to be cars
that didn't have problems and burn up. Oh, but, maybe that will buff out?

roadburner

For those of you who don’t follow the CCBA topic- my wife and I drove over to the Toyota dealer in Indiana to look at the Supra. The store was packed with truck and FWD appliance shoppers. The salesman I’ve been talking with was busy, but the Supra was sitting at the front of the showroom; I think it was the only car people weren’t looking at. We both sat in it. Two complaints I’ve read about are the seats and the limited luggage space. We both thought the seats were fine, and my wife thought the luggage space was fine(I thought the subwoofer grills are a bit ricey, but you don’t have to look at them that often).
Two pet peeves are the lack of a heated steering wheel and no external release for the hatch, but neither are deal breakers. My wife liked it a lot but I really need to drive it(with an ambient temperature of 30F I thought that driving a car fitted with PSS tires was a waste of time).
If I could get it for $9k off MSRP like Breld did I’d likely buy it. For only $4k off I’m not so sure.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

ab348 said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

jmonroe1 said:

imidazol97 said:

Yup.

My point was car fires, in any vehicle, are something to worry about. I never said any
particular brand was immune. Even Cadillac.

When you’re talking to him you’re supposed to say even MB.🤓

jmonroe

Yep, like that. A picture is worth a thousand words.

jmonroe

Is that a Genesis? I can't tell...

Genny’s don’t burn...they melt. More environmentally friendly because it saves a lot of pollution.

jmonroe

One month old G80 goes up in flames;

They think it ran over something on the highway that got stuck, caused friction and a spark, and then the car went up in flames. Samething must have happened to the MB I am sure

Looks like a Bentley to me.🤣

jmonroe

Nice try....2021 G80
https://carbuzz.com/news/brand-new-2021-genesis-g80-catches-fire

Clear case of the type of fake news that exists in Korea.😗

jmonroe

stickguy

are PSS the pilot sport summers? Yeah, 30 might be a bit low for those.

imidazol97

Oh great. Now we've got everybody on the forum "flaming" each other. LOL