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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    driver100 said:

    OK here’s something to weigh in on. For my entire driving career when I’ve mixed coolant I’ve just used regular tap water. 50%-50%. Now I read that tap water is no good because it leaves mineral deposits in the system and you should only use distilled water. Fair enough, makes sense.

    BUT.....now I read where it says that distilled water is no good because it is ionized by the distilling process and will corrode the metal. They recommend “soft” water which you can’t get unless you have a water softener or a chemistry set.

    So what’s the deal here?

    Was this the article you read?
    https://blog.protectmycar.com/can-you-mix-tap-water-with-engine-coolant
    The article says what you stated, but explains in detail why soft water is better than distilled, and distilled is better than tap water.
    The article is placed by an extended car warranty company, but they have nothing to gain by giving you misinformation.
    I think that might be it.
    I looked at several articles on the topic and it seems that even some of the best sources recommend distilled water, but some sources - and they may be a little OCD about this, recommend soft water. Here is another one that recommends soft water;
    https://www.hyperlube.com/blog/blog/why-you-should-never-use-distilled-water-in-your-cooling-system/
    btw....a lot of people ask is it OK to just use tap water or use water and no anti-freeze or coolant. :o

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    OK here’s something to weigh in on. For my entire driving career when I’ve mixed coolant I’ve just used regular tap water. 50%-50%. Now I read that tap water is no good because it leaves mineral deposits in the system and you should only use distilled water. Fair enough, makes sense.

    BUT.....now I read where it says that distilled water is no good because it is ionized by the distilling process and will corrode the metal. They recommend “soft” water which you can’t get unless you have a water softener or a chemistry set.

    So what’s the deal here?

    Was this the article you read?
    https://blog.protectmycar.com/can-you-mix-tap-water-with-engine-coolant
    The article says what you stated, but explains in detail why soft water is better than distilled, and distilled is better than tap water.
    The article is placed by an extended car warranty company, but they have nothing to gain by giving you misinformation.
    I think that might be it.
    I looked at several articles on the topic and it seems that even some of the best sources recommend distilled water, but some sources - and they may be a little OCD about this, recommend soft water. Here is another one that recommends soft water;
    https://www.hyperlube.com/blog/blog/why-you-should-never-use-distilled-water-in-your-cooling-system/
    btw....a lot of people ask is it OK to just use tap water or use water and no anti-freeze or coolant. :o
    Here is my view, as long as you use proper coolant fluid at the right mixture and unless you want 300K miles or 15+ years out of your car any water will do as long as its clean.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,618
    driver100 said:

    ....and fools seldom differ :D

    Ah yes, another breath of fresh air. . .or something.

    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,170
    Just because you guys love the start/stop feature so much - I have reached 3 gallons of gas saved. I'm trying to figure out what to do with that 10 bucks.


    2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,966
    venture said:

    Just because you guys love the start/stop feature so much - I have reached 3 gallons of gas saved. I'm trying to figure out what to do with that 10 bucks.


    You're paying $3.33/gal for gas?

    I just filled up yesterday and paid $2.60/gal for mid-grade.

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  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,170
    Michaell said:

    venture said:

    Just because you guys love the start/stop feature so much - I have reached 3 gallons of gas saved. I'm trying to figure out what to do with that 10 bucks.


    You're paying $3.33/gal for gas?

    I just filled up yesterday and paid $2.60/gal for mid-grade.
    That was just a guess. I have no idea how much gas is here.

    2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    Today I paid $2.69/gallon for 93 octane at my local BP.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,196
    Last fill at Costco was $2.34/gal for PUG.

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360
    venture said:

    Just because you guys love the start/stop feature so much - I have reached 3 gallons of gas saved. I'm trying to figure out what to do with that 10 bucks.


    Edmunds has my mailing address.😎

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360

    Today I paid $2.69/gallon for 93 octane at my local BP.

    Today I paid $2.69/gallon for 93 octane at my local BP.

    Gas prices in PA. are about the highest in the US. 2 days ago I paid 2.75/gal at Marathon for RUG for the Subie. PUG was about a buck more. Our reward for these high prices is that we probably have the worst roads too.☹️

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,764
    One thing I like about my MKZ is that I can make it from mid CT to Ohio without filling up in PA.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    OK here’s something to weigh in on. For my entire driving career when I’ve mixed coolant I’ve just used regular tap water. 50%-50%. Now I read that tap water is no good because it leaves mineral deposits in the system and you should only use distilled water. Fair enough, makes sense.

    BUT.....now I read where it says that distilled water is no good because it is ionized by the distilling process and will corrode the metal. They recommend “soft” water which you can’t get unless you have a water softener or a chemistry set.

    So what’s the deal here?

    Was this the article you read?
    https://blog.protectmycar.com/can-you-mix-tap-water-with-engine-coolant
    The article says what you stated, but explains in detail why soft water is better than distilled, and distilled is better than tap water.
    The article is placed by an extended car warranty company, but they have nothing to gain by giving you misinformation.
    I think that might be it.
    I looked at several articles on the topic and it seems that even some of the best sources recommend distilled water, but some sources - and they may be a little OCD about this, recommend soft water. Here is another one that recommends soft water;
    https://www.hyperlube.com/blog/blog/why-you-should-never-use-distilled-water-in-your-cooling-system/
    btw....a lot of people ask is it OK to just use tap water or use water and no anti-freeze or coolant. :o
    Here is my view, as long as you use proper coolant fluid at the right mixture and unless you want 300K miles or 15+ years out of your car any water will do as long as its clean.
    I think the same, but almost every knowledgeable source says to at least use distilled water, otherwise mineral deposits can clog up the radiator very easily. This might take more miles than what you may own the car, but, we should try to make the car last as long as possible....so it is worth doing it right, using distilled water isn't a big expense, and it could save repair costs even over a short time.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435
    to simplify things, just don't add coolant and there is no concern about what water to use!

    I still have a 1/2 jug of coolant that must be 15 YO by now, bought at the Honda dealer. Premixed 50/50. I assume it is still good, and would work in the RDX if I needed some.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360

    One thing I like about my MKZ is that I can make it from mid CT to Ohio without filling up in PA.

    PA has to find a way to tax outsiders who beat up our roads from one end to the other without buying a single gallon of gas in our lovely state.☹️☹️☹️

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435
    I was surprised late last week when I noticed that gas had gone up at least $.30/gal since the last time I filled up. was around $2.20 for RUG, now up over $2.50

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    I buy all my gas at Costco which currently is at $2.18 for RUG and $2.46 for PUG per gallon. Since the pandemic got into full swing, I’ve been spending 1/2 the amount I used to spend on gasoline and driving 1/2 the amount as well - isn’t logic wonderful?

    I have 4,527 miles on my odometer after 8-1/2 months of ownership of the E450. At this rate, my 1-year maintenance service will arrive with 6,500 miles on the car in early May.

    Here’s hoping that the pandemic will be over and done with by next Christmas assuming that the vaccines are effective against the 5-7 virus variants (mutations) currently spreading. I get my 2nd vaccine shot a week from Thursday, God willing.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    venture said:

    Just because you guys love the start/stop feature so much - I have reached 3 gallons of gas saved. I'm trying to figure out what to do with that 10 bucks.


    Save it for a new starter? :o

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,764
    @jmonroe1,
    I stay away from the PA Turnpike, that's about 5-6 dollars an hour to drive on.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435
    they do charge through the nose for that road. Thankfully I never have to go out that way.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,593
    jmonroe1 said:

    One thing I like about my MKZ is that I can make it from mid CT to Ohio without filling up in PA.

    PA has to find a way to tax outsiders who beat up our roads from one end to the other without buying a single gallon of gas in our lovely state.☹️☹️☹️

    jmonroe
    One thing you learn fast driving in WV/PA is toll roads! Have money ready.

    2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech

  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    edited January 2021
    I just keep wondering why these things keep happening to GG. He must have special powers attracting problem vehicles. Mysterious fluid spills are typical excuses for warranty denials, when companies don't want to honor their obligations. Pretty much go-to on many electronic items worldwide, especially portable, also popular wherever foreign substance can get the manufacturer off the hook. I'm not fully convinced that it's real unless I you could see real traces on such fluid during car cleaning.

    2018 430i Gran Coupe

  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,170

    venture said:

    Just because you guys love the start/stop feature so much - I have reached 3 gallons of gas saved. I'm trying to figure out what to do with that 10 bucks.


    Save it for a new starter? :o
    I haven't really heard of many failures, but there should be a way to turn it off without having to do it every time you want to use your car. *Supposedly* the starter and it's components are more heavy duty - who knows.

    It's possible that the manufacturers are simply doing it to increase MPG figures. ;)

    The latest non-safety recall from Subaru puts an icon on the main touch screen to be able to turn it off by pushing only that button without having to scroll thru 3 or 4 menus.

    2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport

  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191
    edited January 2021
    venture said:

    Just because you guys love the start/stop feature so much - I have reached 3 gallons of gas saved. I'm trying to figure out what to do with that 10 bucks.

    You just lowered carbon emissions by 0.0000000000000000000000000001 percent, all by yourself. That should worth so much more than 10 bucks, especially in self-satisfaction department.

    2018 430i Gran Coupe

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    stickguy said:

    to simplify things, just don't add coolant and there is no concern about what water to use!

    I still have a 1/2 jug of coolant that must be 15 YO by now, bought at the Honda dealer. Premixed 50/50. I assume it is still good, and would work in the RDX if I needed some.

    Premixed is really the way to go.
    If you have to add some water, at least use distilled and soft water if you are OCD about these things. :p

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,170
    dino001 said:

    venture said:

    Just because you guys love the start/stop feature so much - I have reached 3 gallons of gas saved. I'm trying to figure out what to do with that 10 bucks.

    You just lowered carbon emissions by 0.0000000000000000000000000001 percent, all by yourself. That should worth so much more than 10 bucks, especially in self-satisfaction department.

    I'm all about saving the environment.

    2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435
    I just like not having to do it in between oil changes. Dealer tops up fluids as part of that anyway.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435
    venture said:

    venture said:

    Just because you guys love the start/stop feature so much - I have reached 3 gallons of gas saved. I'm trying to figure out what to do with that 10 bucks.


    Save it for a new starter? :o
    I haven't really heard of many failures, but there should be a way to turn it off without having to do it every time you want to use your car. *Supposedly* the starter and it's components are more heavy duty - who knows.

    It's possible that the manufacturers are simply doing it to increase MPG figures. ;)

    The latest non-safety recall from Subaru puts an icon on the main touch screen to be able to turn it off by pushing only that button without having to scroll thru 3 or 4 menus.
    I was pushing hard for a new outback when we were shopping last year (before getting the RDX). Drove great. Needed to work on the wife a little because it was a "wagon" but I was making progress. But she hated the stop/start on that car, and after seeing what the salesguy had to do in order to turn it off (paging through multiple menus) she wouldn't even consider it (really just an excuse IMO).

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,170
    stickguy said:

    venture said:

    venture said:

    Just because you guys love the start/stop feature so much - I have reached 3 gallons of gas saved. I'm trying to figure out what to do with that 10 bucks.


    Save it for a new starter? :o
    I haven't really heard of many failures, but there should be a way to turn it off without having to do it every time you want to use your car. *Supposedly* the starter and it's components are more heavy duty - who knows.

    It's possible that the manufacturers are simply doing it to increase MPG figures. ;)

    The latest non-safety recall from Subaru puts an icon on the main touch screen to be able to turn it off by pushing only that button without having to scroll thru 3 or 4 menus.
    I was pushing hard for a new outback when we were shopping last year (before getting the RDX). Drove great. Needed to work on the wife a little because it was a "wagon" but I was making progress. But she hated the stop/start on that car, and after seeing what the salesguy had to do in order to turn it off (paging through multiple menus) she wouldn't even consider it (really just an excuse IMO).
    She won't be able to use that excuse any more. She will have to find a new one...lol.

    The Outback is a jacked up Legacy with a much larger inside area.

    2025 Forester Limited, 2024 Subaru Legacy Sport

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,681
    edited January 2021
    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    OK here’s something to weigh in on. For my entire driving career when I’ve mixed coolant I’ve just used regular tap water. 50%-50%. Now I read that tap water is no good because it leaves mineral deposits in the system and you should only use distilled water. Fair enough, makes sense.

    BUT.....now I read where it says that distilled water is no good because it is ionized by the distilling process and will corrode the metal. They recommend “soft” water which you can’t get unless you have a water softener or a chemistry set.

    So what’s the deal here?

    Was this the article you read?
    https://blog.protectmycar.com/can-you-mix-tap-water-with-engine-coolant
    The article says what you stated, but explains in detail why soft water is better than distilled, and distilled is better than tap water.
    The article is placed by an extended car warranty company, but they have nothing to gain by giving you misinformation.
    I think that might be it.
    I looked at several articles on the topic and it seems that even some of the best sources recommend distilled water, but some sources - and they may be a little OCD about this, recommend soft water. Here is another one that recommends soft water;
    https://www.hyperlube.com/blog/blog/why-you-should-never-use-distilled-water-in-your-cooling-system/
    btw....a lot of people ask is it OK to just use tap water or use water and no anti-freeze or coolant. :o
    DEATHWATER. If DexCool can be renamed as deathcool...

    Following the pattern, we'll have to start calling distilled water by a new name, DEATHWATER, because it's showing the correct amount of hydrogen ions for its pH of 7.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    venture said:

    venture said:

    Just because you guys love the start/stop feature so much - I have reached 3 gallons of gas saved. I'm trying to figure out what to do with that 10 bucks.


    Save it for a new starter? :o
    I haven't really heard of many failures, but there should be a way to turn it off without having to do it every time you want to use your car. *Supposedly* the starter and it's components are more heavy duty - who knows.

    It's possible that the manufacturers are simply doing it to increase MPG figures. ;)

    The latest non-safety recall from Subaru puts an icon on the main touch screen to be able to turn it off by pushing only that button without having to scroll thru 3 or 4 menus.
    In my E450 (and all previous Mercedes Benz vehicles I’ve owned) there is a button on my console that shuts off the stop/start function. I usually shut it down when I am in heavy traffic or on the Turnpike or interstate when there is bumper-to-bumper traffic.

    When the engine is shut down, all other features are active except the compressor for AC. When AC is needed (temp rises inside vehicle) the engine restarts automatically. The ventilation stays on when engine shuts down.

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    Both of my newer BMWs allow you to shut off stop/start without having to do so at every restart. If I get a newer one that lacks that feature I'll need to recode it. I would hate having to push that button every time I start the car. And no way would I buy a car without a stop/start defeat switch.

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    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    stickguy said:

    they do charge through the nose for that road. Thankfully I never have to go out that way.

    This site lists the 10 most expensive tollways in the us by cost per mile. Two are in my neck of the woods, however I Never take them.

    https://moneywise.com/a/the-most-expensive-toll-roads-in-america

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    venture said:

    venture said:

    Just because you guys love the start/stop feature so much - I have reached 3 gallons of gas saved. I'm trying to figure out what to do with that 10 bucks.


    Save it for a new starter? :o
    I haven't really heard of many failures, but there should be a way to turn it off without having to do it every time you want to use your car. *Supposedly* the starter and it's components are more heavy duty - who knows.

    It's possible that the manufacturers are simply doing it to increase MPG figures. ;)

    The latest non-safety recall from Subaru puts an icon on the main touch screen to be able to turn it off by pushing only that button without having to scroll thru 3 or 4 menus.
    The BMW only keeps it on if your in economy mode, in the other modes if you turn it off it stays off. We usually keep it in the comfort mode so there is really no need to turn it off every time we start the car.

    It doesn't tell us how much gas we save if it's on, it tells us how many more miles we can go.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    driver100 said:

    stickguy said:

    to simplify things, just don't add coolant and there is no concern about what water to use!

    I still have a 1/2 jug of coolant that must be 15 YO by now, bought at the Honda dealer. Premixed 50/50. I assume it is still good, and would work in the RDX if I needed some.

    Premixed is really the way to go.
    If you have to add some water, at least use distilled and soft water if you are OCD about these things. :p
    Or bourbon, I read somewhere (maybe here) that bourbon will work.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351

    venture said:

    venture said:

    Just because you guys love the start/stop feature so much - I have reached 3 gallons of gas saved. I'm trying to figure out what to do with that 10 bucks.


    Save it for a new starter? :o
    I haven't really heard of many failures, but there should be a way to turn it off without having to do it every time you want to use your car. *Supposedly* the starter and it's components are more heavy duty - who knows.

    It's possible that the manufacturers are simply doing it to increase MPG figures. ;)

    The latest non-safety recall from Subaru puts an icon on the main touch screen to be able to turn it off by pushing only that button without having to scroll thru 3 or 4 menus.
    The BMW only keeps it on if your in economy mode, in the other modes if you turn it off it stays off. We usually keep it in the comfort mode so there is really no need to turn it off every time we start the car.

    It doesn't tell us how much gas we save if it's on, it tells us how many more miles we can go.
    If the car is in Eco Pro mode the blue readout tells you how many miles you've added to your range by using that mode. You can also let the car analyze your fuel saving skills- 1-5 stars. Silly, but better than the cars that show trees growing or other eco-weenie nonsense.

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    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435

    stickguy said:

    they do charge through the nose for that road. Thankfully I never have to go out that way.

    This site lists the 10 most expensive tollways in the us by cost per mile. Two are in my neck of the woods, however I Never take them.

    https://moneywise.com/a/the-most-expensive-toll-roads-in-america
    Texas hits pretty hard. So much for not liking government interference!

    The 95/495 lanes around DC are quite expensive. Especially if you go at the peak time. But I used them a couple times when going back and forth to NC when the kid was in school, because it did save time if the free road was really backed up. But that was a reversing set of lanes, and most of the time, I was going against traffic so could not use them anyway.

    I don't count those top 2 in NY. They are not toll highways, rather scenic roads to a specific destination.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    stickguy said:

    stickguy said:

    they do charge through the nose for that road. Thankfully I never have to go out that way.

    This site lists the 10 most expensive tollways in the us by cost per mile. Two are in my neck of the woods, however I Never take them.

    https://moneywise.com/a/the-most-expensive-toll-roads-in-america
    Texas hits pretty hard. So much for not liking government interference!
    The counter argument to that is that no one is forcing you to take the toll road. Unlike many other government "services" that you pay for if you use it or not you don't pay for a tollway unless you actually use it. Only users pay it's cost.
    stickguy said:

    The 95/495 lanes around DC are quite expensive. Especially if you go at the peak time. But I used them a couple times when going back and forth to NC when the kid was in school, because it did save time if the free road was really backed up. But that was a reversing set of lanes, and most of the time, I was going against traffic so could not use them anyway.

    The kids used to live right outside D.C. and I have to say that I didn't find their rush hour traffic as bad as most people claim. You should drive from Downtown Chicago to my house at four in the afternoon on a week day.
    stickguy said:

    I don't count those top 2 in NY. They are not toll highways, rather scenic roads to a specific destination.

    I was debating that myself but in the end any toll road is a road you take to a specific destination.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    There is a Windows 10 update that must be humongous - my computer has been working on the updates for 80 minutes so far and it’s only 23% complete. The notice on the screen says, “...this will take a while...”! Now that’s a true understatement if I ever saw one! It should say “this will take a day or so to complete”!🤪😜🤓

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,764
    edited January 2021
    Several of those toll roads are very short. As of 2019, PA turnpike costs up to $53.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    Several of those toll roads are very short. As of 2019, PA turnpike costs up to $53.

    While they may be short they calculated the cost per mile not the total cost if you drive the whole length. Using the PA turnpike web page a car using EZPass would be about 15 cents a mile.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • dino001dino001 Member Posts: 6,191

    Both of my newer BMWs allow you to shut off stop/start without having to do so at every restart. If I get a newer one that lacks that feature I'll need to recode it. I would hate having to push that button every time I start the car. And no way would I buy a car without a stop/start defeat switch.

    Same here. Are you saying new BMWs don't have on/off switch that carries the setting to the next start? That would be terrible.

    2018 430i Gran Coupe

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594

    driver100 said:

    stickguy said:

    to simplify things, just don't add coolant and there is no concern about what water to use!

    I still have a 1/2 jug of coolant that must be 15 YO by now, bought at the Honda dealer. Premixed 50/50. I assume it is still good, and would work in the RDX if I needed some.

    Premixed is really the way to go.
    If you have to add some water, at least use distilled and soft water if you are OCD about these things. :p
    Or bourbon, I read somewhere (maybe here) that bourbon will work.
    I don't think anyone recommends using bourbon in the cooling system, but Fireball Bourbon has some ingredients found in anti-freeze:
    In 2014 it was reported that the liquor contained a chemical found in some types of antifreeze, creating a headline-grabbing panic among consumers. Fireball was temporarily recalled in three European countries while a compliance issue was sorted out-- but the spirit was never recalled in the U.S. The company says the ingredient in question (propylene glycol or PG) is FDA-approved, used in lots of food and beverages Americans consume all the time and that Fireball is “100 percent safe to drink."

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,764
    @snakeweasel,
    You looked at my comment from the wrong perspective. :p
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360

    @jmonroe1,
    I stay away from the PA Turnpike, that's about 5-6 dollars an hour to drive on.

    You and a lot of the cheapos I used to work with. They thought the PA pike toll was too high and it is but I always took the pike to work the last 7 years I worked as a consultant. It was too convenient so I bit the bullet and rode it 20 miles each way every day. Got on the pike set the cruise to 70 (limit was 65 back then) and enjoyed the ride because traffic was pretty light. I wasn’t about to beat up my car with many lights and stop signs and spending more time to get to work to save a few bucks on back roads. Now, fast forward to the few snow days we had and these same cheapos flocked to the pike like it was a candy store because it is a well known fact that the PA pike is excellent for snow removal. So, in that regard you get your monies worth unless you’re like @oldfarmer50 and you dread the use of salt.

    FWIW, a few years ago the PA state legislature approved the turnpike commissions request to automatically increase tolls every January till 2040. They said it would save tax payers time and money by not requiring the legislature to convene every year or so to hear requests for toll increases. You gotta love politicians that want to save their constituents a buck.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360

    driver100 said:

    stickguy said:

    to simplify things, just don't add coolant and there is no concern about what water to use!

    I still have a 1/2 jug of coolant that must be 15 YO by now, bought at the Honda dealer. Premixed 50/50. I assume it is still good, and would work in the RDX if I needed some.

    Premixed is really the way to go.
    If you have to add some water, at least use distilled and soft water if you are OCD about these things. :p
    Or bourbon, I read somewhere (maybe here) that bourbon will work.
    You’re right again you heard me say that. Kinda like reading something on the internet but in this case it’s true since you got it from a poster buddy.😗

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,360
    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    stickguy said:

    to simplify things, just don't add coolant and there is no concern about what water to use!

    I still have a 1/2 jug of coolant that must be 15 YO by now, bought at the Honda dealer. Premixed 50/50. I assume it is still good, and would work in the RDX if I needed some.

    Premixed is really the way to go.
    If you have to add some water, at least use distilled and soft water if you are OCD about these things. :p
    Or bourbon, I read somewhere (maybe here) that bourbon will work.
    I don't think anyone recommends using bourbon in the cooling system, but Fireball Bourbon has some ingredients found in anti-freeze:
    In 2014 it was reported that the liquor contained a chemical found in some types of antifreeze, creating a headline-grabbing panic among consumers. Fireball was temporarily recalled in three European countries while a compliance issue was sorted out-- but the spirit was never recalled in the U.S. The company says the ingredient in question (propylene glycol or PG) is FDA-approved, used in lots of food and beverages Americans consume all the time and that Fireball is “100 percent safe to drink."

    Ain’t that what I said.😫

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's.
    '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,316
    edited January 2021
    dino001 said:

    Both of my newer BMWs allow you to shut off stop/start without having to do so at every restart. If I get a newer one that lacks that feature I'll need to recode it. I would hate having to push that button every time I start the car. And no way would I buy a car without a stop/start defeat switch.

    Same here. Are you saying new BMWs don't have on/off switch that carries the setting to the next start? That would be terrible.
    My Cadillac has an on/off switch, but it only applies to the current engine start, just like how Mike described the M-B system. You would need to deactivate stop/start every time you start the engine. I think (but do not know) that is mandated if manufacturers want to include the effect of stop/start systems in their EPA fuel economy (and maybe emissions?) numbers.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,435
    my understanding was it needed to default to that to count. But seems there are plenty of work arounds (such as defeating in sport mode). The RDX always resets to on but I have to push so many buttons already to get moving (start, drive) might as well hit one more! Plus it is right in the middle of those 2. Sometimes I forget, until the first time it triggers then I remember to turn it off.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,012
    I’ve been leaving start/stop on lately. Combined with auto brake hold it’s not too bad. If I’m stuck in traffic it certainly goes off, but putting around town it’s not horrible.

    I used to despise it, but my wife turns it back on in her car all the time (it’s probably the one setting not tied to a profile) so I decided to give it a shot.

    With as much as we drive it probably saves us 25 cents a month.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    jmonroe1 said:

    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    stickguy said:

    to simplify things, just don't add coolant and there is no concern about what water to use!

    I still have a 1/2 jug of coolant that must be 15 YO by now, bought at the Honda dealer. Premixed 50/50. I assume it is still good, and would work in the RDX if I needed some.

    Premixed is really the way to go.
    If you have to add some water, at least use distilled and soft water if you are OCD about these things. :p
    Or bourbon, I read somewhere (maybe here) that bourbon will work.
    I don't think anyone recommends using bourbon in the cooling system, but Fireball Bourbon has some ingredients found in anti-freeze:
    In 2014 it was reported that the liquor contained a chemical found in some types of antifreeze, creating a headline-grabbing panic among consumers. Fireball was temporarily recalled in three European countries while a compliance issue was sorted out-- but the spirit was never recalled in the U.S. The company says the ingredient in question (propylene glycol or PG) is FDA-approved, used in lots of food and beverages Americans consume all the time and that Fireball is “100 percent safe to drink."

    Ain’t that what I said.😫

    jmonroe
    What did you say? Fireball Bourbon tastes like antifreeze. :o

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

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