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stickguy

auto renew, I guess it depends on what it is for and the business model of the company. XM, I understand not wanting that since they jack the price. But if it is a magazine you want anyway, and the price is just the normal rate, not really a big risk there. At least you won't keep getting mail asking you to renew!

sda

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

And holy crap .... lumber prices are just insane

5 - 2x10x10
2 - 2x10x12
3 - 1/2 4x8 plywood

$300

Yep, the cost of the flipping biz has shot up. Son #1 just signed a contract for his 3rd flip house. He’s moved on up this time. No more smallish 3 BR jobs in starter neighborhoods. This time it’s a 4 BR, 2/12 bath (will be full 3 baths when he’s finished hammering) 2300 square foot colonial job. This one is only 2 blocks from me. Oh well, if nothing else my travel time has been reduced.

jmonroe

And you will be expected to be there early and often. No excuses.

fintail

Just cover everything in tinfoil, you'll be fine.

Back when I worked in fraud for a telecom company, we'd sometimes receive (mis-directed) communication from paranoid conspiracy theorist types - the thoughts going through some peoples heads are hilarious and frightening at the same time.

oldfarmer50 said:

I tip cash and pay the bill in cash so the CIA can’t track me.

oldfarmer50

fintail said:

Just cover everything in tinfoil, you'll be fine.

Back when I worked in fraud for a telecom company, we'd sometimes receive (mis-directed) communication from paranoid conspiracy theorist types - the thoughts going through some peoples heads are hilarious and frightening at the same time.

oldfarmer50 said:

I tip cash and pay the bill in cash so the CIA can’t track me.

And you never got back to me!

omarman

Now that's funny! Years ago a woman was telling me about her complaints to the FAA about "chemtrails" seen in the sky over her home. I was only trying to help when I suggested, "Contrails. You mean contrails right?" Never interrupt a truly motivated individual. That's a therapeutic communication block.

explorerx4

@olfarmer50,
You know they track the serial #'s on bills too, right?

venture

My one daughter tested positive for the virus today. She is very careful with wearing a mask when she leaves the house, which is rarely. Her main thing is no taste or smell. Other than that she seems mostly OK. Hopefully it stays that way.

Her husband has 2 girls from a previous marriage. I told her to not have much contact when they were at her house but, of course, that is difficult.

We have been staying away. The only time we were together was about 3 weeks ago when we met them at a park. Everyone wore a mask and kept as far away as we could.

Interestingly - she is one of the HR directors at a large company here and she deals with this on a daily basis.

sda

Our girls are not spoiled, what a life.

jwm40517

Have started looking for a new Honda Odyssey van. I an in Lexington, Ky and I know some of you are near Louisville and Cincinnati . I would appreciate suggestions on good dealers or warnings on bad. Try not to be guilty of libel, but let me know of any really shady ones.

I believe Ohio doc fees are capped at about $250 or so. KY dealers want $499-$699. One dealer offered a much larger discount than others but just listed a selling price without disclosing what factory incentives were used to get to the number. I asked how he got to that number but he just repeated it. If I went there I suspect the price would suddenly be higher as I am not a recent grad, military or other obscure credit.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

@olfarmer50,
You know they track the serial #'s on bills too, right?

Yeah but I write over the numbers to fool em’.

oldfarmer50

venture said:

My one daughter tested positive for the virus today. She is very careful with wearing a mask when she leaves the house, which is rarely. Her main thing is no taste or smell. Other than that she seems mostly OK. Hopefully it stays that way.

Her husband has 2 girls from a previous marriage. I told her to not have much contact when they were at her house but, of course, that is difficult.

We have been staying away. The only time we were together was about 3 weeks ago when we met them at a park. Everyone wore a mask and kept as far away as we could.

Interestingly - she is one of the HR directors at a large company here and she deals with this on a daily basis.

Sorry to hear that. Did she get tested after showing symptoms or after just having a suspected exposure? My son had a suspected exposure and had to wait five days before they would test him. Three more days to get the result which was negative. Over 10 days from the suspected exposure.Seemed like a screwy system to me.

jmonroe1

@venture, I hope your daughters symptoms don’t get any worse and that she fully recovers soon.

The bad thing about this is that NO ONE seems to know how to prevent it. It almost seems like it’s luck of the draw. Mrs. j and I are at the age where we should go to the head of the line for a vaccine but non are available anywhere near us and we live smack dap in the middle of a large health community around here. There are 2 large hospitals within walking distance of our house (one is a mile and a half away, the other only 2 miles) but what good does that do if the vaccine isn’t available. Lots of people have dropped the ball on this and PA is right at the top of the list.

Good luck with your daughter.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

sda said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

And holy crap .... lumber prices are just insane

5 - 2x10x10
2 - 2x10x12
3 - 1/2 4x8 plywood

$300

Yep, the cost of the flipping biz has shot up. Son #1 just signed a contract for his 3rd flip house. He’s moved on up this time. No more smallish 3 BR jobs in starter neighborhoods. This time it’s a 4 BR, 2/12 bath (will be full 3 baths when he’s finished hammering) 2300 square foot colonial job. This one is only 2 blocks from me. Oh well, if nothing else my travel time has been reduced.

jmonroe

And you will be expected to be there early and often. No excuses.

Well, I laid the law down about this flip. I’ll do a lot of pointing about what to do and cherry pick when and where I’ll roll up my sleeves. Told my Son to consider me a silent partner. His response was I don’t care if you talk or not, just get the work done. He has a comprehension problem.

jmonroe

mcdawgg

jwm40517 said:

Have started looking for a new Honda Odyssey van. I an in Lexington, Ky and I know some of you are near Louisville and Cincinnati . I would appreciate suggestions on good dealers or warnings on bad. Try not to be guilty of libel, but let me know of any really shady ones.

I believe Ohio doc fees are capped at about $250 or so. KY dealers want $499-$699. One dealer offered a much larger discount than others but just listed a selling price without disclosing what factory incentives were used to get to the number. I asked how he got to that number but he just repeated it. If I went there I suspect the price would suddenly be higher as I am not a recent grad, military or other obscure credit.

Check Siennas. Odysseys are not nearly as reliable. They're not horrible, but...

fintail

We either filed those in the circular data storage system, or kept them on kind of a wall of shame/fame. You might still be there

oldfarmer50 said:

And you never got back to me!

roadburner

jwm40517 said:

Have started looking for a new Honda Odyssey van. I an in Lexington, Ky and I know some of you are near Louisville and Cincinnati . I would appreciate suggestions on good dealers or warnings on bad. Try not to be guilty of libel, but let me know of any really shady ones.

I believe Ohio doc fees are capped at about $250 or so. KY dealers want $499-$699. One dealer offered a much larger discount than others but just listed a selling price without disclosing what factory incentives were used to get to the number. I asked how he got to that number but he just repeated it. If I went there I suspect the price would suddenly be higher as I am not a recent grad, military or other obscure credit.

Hardin County Honda used to be a reputable store; I don't know if they are now- we haven't shopped Hondas since 2007.

omarman

jmonroe1 said:

@venture, I hope your daughters symptoms don’t get any worse and that she fully recovers soon.

The bad thing about this is that NO ONE seems to know how to prevent it. It almost seems like it’s luck of the draw. Mrs. j and I are at the age where we should go to the head of the line for a vaccine but non are available anywhere near us and we live smack dap in the middle of a large health community around here. There are 2 large hospitals within walking distance of our house (one is a mile and a half away, the other only 2 miles) but what good does that do if the vaccine isn’t available. Lots of people have dropped the ball on this and PA is right at the top of the list.

Good luck with your daughter.

jmonroe

I know what you're saying and at the same time you really do "make your own luck" in life. I'm posting a pic taken of the anti-vaccine protest at Dodger Stadium. People who came - willingly and eagerly - to get vaccinations were forced to wait in their cars for about an hour until police were able to clear the way.

cdnpinhead

It's times like this that I'm happy to be at 7500' elevation in the high country of AZ with 20" of snow still on the ground (started out at 30"). I'm about as close to a hermit as it's possible to get these days. Keep posting this stuff. It makes me feel better.

oldfarmer50

I’m getting ready for the upcoming snow apocalypse by planning ahead this time.

qbrozen

oldfarmer50 said:

I’m getting ready for the upcoming snow apocalypse by planning ahead this time.

Still have the CVT in that? ;b

jipster

jwm40517 said:

Have started looking for a new Honda Odyssey van. I an in Lexington, Ky and I know some of you are near Louisville and Cincinnati . I would appreciate suggestions on good dealers or warnings on bad. Try not to be guilty of libel, but let me know of any really shady ones.

I believe Ohio doc fees are capped at about $250 or so. KY dealers want $499-$699. One dealer offered a much larger discount than others but just listed a selling price without disclosing what factory incentives were used to get to the number. I asked how he got to that number but he just repeated it. If I went there I suspect the price would suddenly be higher as I am not a recent grad, military or other obscure credit.

In Louisville, I would stay away from Jeff Wyler Honda. Especially the one on Dixie Hwy. To me it exhibited "shady" sales practices. My niece said she had a horrible experience with the Jeff Wyler in Clarksville, Indiana...just across the bridge.

Despite the sales manager saying I was trying to "steal" one of their new Accords because of several LOW but fair offers I made, overall I was happy with the buying experience at Honda World on Hurstborne Pky....in Louisville. Nice selection of vehicles. Huge service department keeps things moving fairly quickly when in for an oil change. I think they have lifetime powertrain warranties. After much debate, I did buy an extended warranty. Customer lounge nice and big...could use some free doughnuts though.

Usung "The Jipst Method of New Car Buying", I use an out the door offer to get the best deal. . If I recall correctly, the dealer fee was $399.

venture

oldfarmer50 said:

venture said:

My one daughter tested positive for the virus today. She is very careful with wearing a mask when she leaves the house, which is rarely. Her main thing is no taste or smell. Other than that she seems mostly OK. Hopefully it stays that way.

Her husband has 2 girls from a previous marriage. I told her to not have much contact when they were at her house but, of course, that is difficult.

We have been staying away. The only time we were together was about 3 weeks ago when we met them at a park. Everyone wore a mask and kept as far away as we could.

Interestingly - she is one of the HR directors at a large company here and she deals with this on a daily basis.

Sorry to hear that. Did she get tested after showing symptoms or after just having a suspected exposure? My son had a suspected exposure and had to wait five days before they would test him. Three more days to get the result which was negative. Over 10 days from the suspected exposure.Seemed like a screwy system to me.

She got tested, this time, after symptoms - no waiting. It was the rapid test. Results of the better (supposedly) test will be in a few days. No taste and no smell. Obviously not good.

My wife had to quarantine and get tested a month, or so, ago when one of her assistants husband tested positive. (She is a teacher) Fortunately she was fine.

venture

jmonroe1 said:

@venture, I hope your daughters symptoms don’t get any worse and that she fully recovers soon.

The bad thing about this is that NO ONE seems to know how to prevent it. It almost seems like it’s luck of the draw. Mrs. j and I are at the age where we should go to the head of the line for a vaccine but non are available anywhere near us and we live smack dap in the middle of a large health community around here. There are 2 large hospitals within walking distance of our house (one is a mile and a half away, the other only 2 miles) but what good does that do if the vaccine isn’t available. Lots of people have dropped the ball on this and PA is right at the top of the list.

Good luck with your daughter.

jmonroe

I agree that no one knows. A lady who lives a few houses away got it. Her daughter said she rarely left the house and was masked up when she did. She's home now and is OK.

We have the same large health community here. They sorta suck. As I fleetingly mentioned before, a doctor friend complained that, although she sees patients all day, she couldn't get vaccinated because they were doing staff and hospital administrators first. I'm sure she got it by now though. Our PCP's don't seem to want to get involved either. Now they are planning to do teachers even though they are in the next group.

I could go on...

imidazol97

omarman said:

ab348 said:

snakeweasel said:

I know at one time Coca Cola was lawsuit happy against anyone that used "Coke" for anything other than Coca Cola. Not sure if they still are but be careful.

The thing that drives me slightly crazy this time of year every year is when you see commercials for whatever on TV promoting something that would be good to buy or watch before the Super Bowl. But they can't call it that, so they all refer to it as "The Big Game".

I don't know if the NFL has actually brought legal action against anyone for using the name without permission, or if they are just really good at threatening.

From the The Lantern dated September 11, 2019. Ohio State refused ‘The’ trademark.

The linked article seemed confusing. Maybe I need more coffee or the "journalist" writing the article needs to focus.

But the shirt pictured is copyright material for me living in The Ohio. In the article another shirt is mentioned with just the word "THE" on it, but that shirt has a small OSU sysmbol below the "THE." Clearly copyright material.

Also mentioned were other, lesser, schools with initials OSU. All they need to do in the "journalist" sports articles is to call out the other OSU of Oklahoma or OSU of Oregon, the way they abuse the name of Miami University, Oxford, Ohio, by always calling it "Miami of Ohio." Apparently the dolts are too dumb to understand Miami University and University of Miami are two different schools and use the associated name. I never hear them say "Miami of Florida," BTW. But if they say "Miami University" or "Univeristy of Miami" I know exactly about which school they are babbling.

venture

imidazol97 said:

omarman said:

ab348 said:

snakeweasel said:

I know at one time Coca Cola was lawsuit happy against anyone that used "Coke" for anything other than Coca Cola. Not sure if they still are but be careful.

The thing that drives me slightly crazy this time of year every year is when you see commercials for whatever on TV promoting something that would be good to buy or watch before the Super Bowl. But they can't call it that, so they all refer to it as "The Big Game".

I don't know if the NFL has actually brought legal action against anyone for using the name without permission, or if they are just really good at threatening.

From the The Lantern dated September 11, 2019. Ohio State refused ‘The’ trademark.

The linked article seemed confusing. Maybe I need more coffee or the "journalist" writing the article needs to focus.

But the shirt pictured is copyright material for me living in The Ohio. In the article another shirt is mentioned with just the word "THE" on it, but that shirt has a small OSU sysmbol below the "THE." Clearly copyright material.

Also mentioned were other, lesser, schools with initials OSU. All they need to do in the "journalist" sports articles is to call out the other OSU of Oklahoma or OSU of Oregon, the way they abuse the name of Miami University, Oxford, Ohio, by always calling it "Miami of Ohio." Apparently the dolts are too dumb to understand Miami University and University of Miami are two different schools and use the associated name. I never hear them say "Miami of Florida," BTW. But if they say "Miami University" or "Univeristy of Miami" I know exactly about which school they are babbling.

Maybe they should just use TOSU.

graphicguy

jwm40517 said:

Have started looking for a new Honda Odyssey van. I an in Lexington, Ky and I know some of you are near Louisville and Cincinnati . I would appreciate suggestions on good dealers or warnings on bad. Try not to be guilty of libel, but let me know of any really shady ones.

I believe Ohio doc fees are capped at about $250 or so. KY dealers want $499-$699. One dealer offered a much larger discount than others but just listed a selling price without disclosing what factory incentives were used to get to the number. I asked how he got to that number but he just repeated it. If I went there I suspect the price would suddenly be higher as I am not a recent grad, military or other obscure credit.

I’ve had good experiences with both Performance Honda and Superior Honda. Good people who don’t hide any pricing. Straight forward pricing. Willing to work with you.

kyfdx

explorerx4 said:

@olfarmer50,
You know they track the serial #'s on bills too, right?

www.wheresgeorge.com

kyfdx

graphicguy said:

jwm40517 said:

Have started looking for a new Honda Odyssey van. I an in Lexington, Ky and I know some of you are near Louisville and Cincinnati . I would appreciate suggestions on good dealers or warnings on bad. Try not to be guilty of libel, but let me know of any really shady ones.

I believe Ohio doc fees are capped at about $250 or so. KY dealers want $499-$699. One dealer offered a much larger discount than others but just listed a selling price without disclosing what factory incentives were used to get to the number. I asked how he got to that number but he just repeated it. If I went there I suspect the price would suddenly be higher as I am not a recent grad, military or other obscure credit.

I’ve had good experiences with both Performance Honda and Superior Honda. Good people who don’t hide any pricing. Straight forward pricing. Willing to work with you.

I'll ditto Performance. I've had good experiences with Kings, as well.

Don't worry about the amount of the dealer fee. But, know what it is, and if it's included in the price you are given. As @jipster mentioned, it is the total amount that matters. All of those dealers are in the same region.

If I lived in Lexington, I'd try really hard to buy from a dealer in town, if possible. Use your shopping out of town as leverage.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

I’m getting ready for the upcoming snow apocalypse by planning ahead this time.

Still have the CVT in that? ;b

Yeah, I suppose that’s the ultimate safety feature. It breaks down in your driveway so you don’t risk sliding off the road.

sda

Even though I didn’t have any issues with the CVT in my 13 Accord I am still not convinced of their longevity. From what I’ve read they are expensive to replace as repair is generally not an option.

jmonroe1

cdnpinhead said:

It's times like this that I'm happy to be at 7500' elevation in the high country of AZ with 20" of snow still on the ground (started out at 30"). I'm about as close to a hermit as it's possible to get these days. Keep posting this stuff. It makes me feel better.

I didn’t think the internet traveled that high. Gotta get a lot of static as a result.

jmonroe

explorerx4

Just looked it up, I'm @233 ft.

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

I’m getting ready for the upcoming snow apocalypse by planning ahead this time.

Still have the CVT in that? ;b

Yeah, I suppose that’s the ultimate safety feature. It breaks down in your driveway so you don’t risk sliding off the road.

Breaking down in your driveway would be a blessing. That has to be a real bumpy ride when those thingies are rotating.

jmonroe

sda

I know a lot of the country is experiencing bad weather today. My wife is in Jacksonville visiting her sister. Just received a picture from her with her sister at the beach! We have heavy rain and 40 degrees. As the Passat hasn’t been washed in weeks, it was just a little dusty from sitting in the garage and when it’s been driven it’s been good weather, I deliberately found a reason to go to the store in the rain to give me a good excuse to wash the car later. I think I’ve lost it.

abacomike

It’s been 3 days since my 2nd COVID vaccination. I’ve had some fairly mild symptoms such as some night-sweats, muscle aches and a little dizziness. No reactions at the injection site. Let’s hope these after-affects disappear shortly.

fintail

I'm way up north in a western intermountain region, and it is warmer here than there. Winter has been a bit of a bust, disappointing as I like the snow and snow sports. If anything, it has kept the car cleaner than I was planning - with wide warm breaks in the weather, I can keep up with it, I was just going to "let it go" if we had good snowy stretches.

sda said:

I know a lot of the country is experiencing bad weather today. My wife is in Jacksonville visiting her sister. Just received a picture from her with her sister at the beach! We have heavy rain and 40 degrees. As the Passat hasn’t been washed in weeks, it was just a little dusty from sitting in the garage and when it’s been driven it’s been good weather, I deliberately found a reason to go to the store in the rain to give me a good excuse to wash the car later. I think I’ve lost it.

fintail

I bet those were some of the people who sent insane and inane letters to my prior employer.

omarman said:

I know what you're saying and at the same time you really do "make your own luck" in life. I'm posting a pic taken of the anti-vaccine protest at Dodger Stadium. People who came - willingly and eagerly - to get vaccinations were forced to wait in their cars for about an hour until police were able to clear the way.

oldfarmer50

sda said:

Even though I didn’t have any issues with the CVT in my 13 Accord I am still not convinced of their longevity. From what I’ve read they are expensive to replace as repair is generally not an option.

From my reading Honda makes their own in house CVT and it’s trouble free. Same with Toyota who uses Aisin CVTs. The problem is CVTs made by Jatco, a former subsidiary of Nissan which makes them for many different brands. Those were noted as unreliable, at least a few years ago.

I’m hearing that they are almost impossible to repair and most shops just drop a new one in for $6500. Ouch!

That’s why I’d be leery of buying any car with a CVT. Honda’s might be better but will it go 250k miles like a regular Honda automatic? Might be expensive to find out.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

Just looked it up, I'm @233 ft.

Hey, me too, depending on what chair I’m sitting on.

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

Even though I didn’t have any issues with the CVT in my 13 Accord I am still not convinced of their longevity. From what I’ve read they are expensive to replace as repair is generally not an option.

From my reading Honda makes their own in house CVT and it’s trouble free. Same with Toyota who uses Aisin CVTs. The problem is CVTs made by Jatco, a former subsidiary of Nissan which makes them for many different brands. Those were noted as unreliable, at least a few years ago.

I’m hearing that they are almost impossible to repair and most shops just drop a new one in for $6500. Ouch!

That’s why I’d be leery of buying any car with a CVT. Honda’s might be better but will it go 250k miles like a regular Honda automatic? Might be expensive to find out.

My understanding is that a CVT currently will not last as long as a automatic transmission. This will more than likely change as the technology advances but as of now it doesn't last as near as long. If you are leasing it's no big deal but if you plan on keeping a car a long time it is a deal breaker for me.

Also consider that not every mechanic knows how to service a CVT, so taking it to your friendly neighborhood mechanic for transmission work might not be an option.

jwm40517

Thanks @jipster Honda World is middle of the pack on discount but doc fee is $644. I know out the door matters but it seems the high doc fee stores are not competitive .

jwm40517

Thanks GG I have spoken to a fellow at Superior that seems nice.

kyfdx. We bought our Odyssey in Lexington, but now they add $999 of fabric and paint to every vehicle and have a doc of $595. Their offered discount of $4642 looks pretty good at first but an Ohio store without add-ons and same doc would be the same deal at $3300 off.

jwm40517

Edit I meant Ohio doc of $250

jmonroe1

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

Even though I didn’t have any issues with the CVT in my 13 Accord I am still not convinced of their longevity. From what I’ve read they are expensive to replace as repair is generally not an option.

From my reading Honda makes their own in house CVT and it’s trouble free. Same with Toyota who uses Aisin CVTs. The problem is CVTs made by Jatco, a former subsidiary of Nissan which makes them for many different brands. Those were noted as unreliable, at least a few years ago.

I’m hearing that they are almost impossible to repair and most shops just drop a new one in for $6500. Ouch!

That’s why I’d be leery of buying any car with a CVT. Honda’s might be better but will it go 250k miles like a regular Honda automatic? Might be expensive to find out.

My understanding is that a CVT currently will not last as long as a automatic transmission. This will more than likely change as the technology advances but as of now it doesn't last as near as long. If you are leasing it's no big deal but if you plan on keeping a car a long time it is a deal breaker for me.

Also consider that not every mechanic knows how to service a CVT, so taking it to your friendly neighborhood mechanic for transmission work might not be an option.

The days of your trusted indie working on trannies is long gone even the shifting types. If they are honest they tell you to drive on down to a local tranny shop in the area. The non-trusty ones tell you to drop it off and they’ll look at it and they’ll get back to you with an estimate. In reality they drive it to a local tranny shop and get an estimate. A classic case of a middle man.

When a car is under warranty the dealer does it. Out of warranty they may also drive it to the local tranny shop if they take pity on you and can’t hold a straight face giving you a price for them doing it. If it’s done differently in your area you live in the most honest area doing car repairs.

jmonroe

sda

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

Even though I didn’t have any issues with the CVT in my 13 Accord I am still not convinced of their longevity. From what I’ve read they are expensive to replace as repair is generally not an option.

From my reading Honda makes their own in house CVT and it’s trouble free. Same with Toyota who uses Aisin CVTs. The problem is CVTs made by Jatco, a former subsidiary of Nissan which makes them for many different brands. Those were noted as unreliable, at least a few years ago.

I’m hearing that they are almost impossible to repair and most shops just drop a new one in for $6500. Ouch!

That’s why I’d be leery of buying any car with a CVT. Honda’s might be better but will it go 250k miles like a regular Honda automatic? Might be expensive to find out.

Exactly!

snakeweasel

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

Even though I didn’t have any issues with the CVT in my 13 Accord I am still not convinced of their longevity. From what I’ve read they are expensive to replace as repair is generally not an option.

From my reading Honda makes their own in house CVT and it’s trouble free. Same with Toyota who uses Aisin CVTs. The problem is CVTs made by Jatco, a former subsidiary of Nissan which makes them for many different brands. Those were noted as unreliable, at least a few years ago.

I’m hearing that they are almost impossible to repair and most shops just drop a new one in for $6500. Ouch!

That’s why I’d be leery of buying any car with a CVT. Honda’s might be better but will it go 250k miles like a regular Honda automatic? Might be expensive to find out.

My understanding is that a CVT currently will not last as long as a automatic transmission. This will more than likely change as the technology advances but as of now it doesn't last as near as long. If you are leasing it's no big deal but if you plan on keeping a car a long time it is a deal breaker for me.

Also consider that not every mechanic knows how to service a CVT, so taking it to your friendly neighborhood mechanic for transmission work might not be an option.

The days of your trusted indie working on trannies is long gone even the shifting types. If they are honest they tell you to drive on down to a local tranny shop in the area. The non-trusty ones tell you to drop it off and they’ll look at it and they’ll get back to you with an estimate. In reality they drive it to a local tranny shop and get an estimate. A classic case of a middle man.

When a car is under warranty the dealer does it. Out of warranty they may also drive it to the local tranny shop if they take pity on you and can’t hold a straight face giving you a price for them doing it. If it’s done differently in your area you live in the most honest area doing car repairs.

jmonroe

My old inde mechanic could work on most trannies. Unfortunately he retire a couple of years ago and I dont trust the guy who bought his business.

Since we are on transmissions what's Hondas stance on DCT's? Honda power sports seems to be committed to them on their motorcycles with several models having them, and they seem to sell really well.

stickguy

do even tranny shops work on most modern trannies? I mean complicated stuff involving the internals. I assume can maybe handle some electronics stuff but anything significant is getting a rebuilt.

stickguy

snakeweasel said:

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

Even though I didn’t have any issues with the CVT in my 13 Accord I am still not convinced of their longevity. From what I’ve read they are expensive to replace as repair is generally not an option.

From my reading Honda makes their own in house CVT and it’s trouble free. Same with Toyota who uses Aisin CVTs. The problem is CVTs made by Jatco, a former subsidiary of Nissan which makes them for many different brands. Those were noted as unreliable, at least a few years ago.

I’m hearing that they are almost impossible to repair and most shops just drop a new one in for $6500. Ouch!

That’s why I’d be leery of buying any car with a CVT. Honda’s might be better but will it go 250k miles like a regular Honda automatic? Might be expensive to find out.

My understanding is that a CVT currently will not last as long as a automatic transmission. This will more than likely change as the technology advances but as of now it doesn't last as near as long. If you are leasing it's no big deal but if you plan on keeping a car a long time it is a deal breaker for me.

Also consider that not every mechanic knows how to service a CVT, so taking it to your friendly neighborhood mechanic for transmission work might not be an option.

The days of your trusted indie working on trannies is long gone even the shifting types. If they are honest they tell you to drive on down to a local tranny shop in the area. The non-trusty ones tell you to drop it off and they’ll look at it and they’ll get back to you with an estimate. In reality they drive it to a local tranny shop and get an estimate. A classic case of a middle man.

When a car is under warranty the dealer does it. Out of warranty they may also drive it to the local tranny shop if they take pity on you and can’t hold a straight face giving you a price for them doing it. If it’s done differently in your area you live in the most honest area doing car repairs.

jmonroe

My old inde mechanic could work on most trannies. Unfortunately he retire a couple of years ago and I dont trust the guy who bought his business.

Since we are on transmissions what's Hondas stance on DCT's? Honda power sports seems to be committed to them on their motorcycles with several models having them, and they seem to sell really well.

Acura used the DCT beginning with the intro of the TLX in 2015 (and on the ILX when they updated that to the same 2.4l engine). But the new TLX uses the 10 speed slushbox that the old V6 cars used. I assume once the ILX goes away so does the DCT. Too bad, I thought it worked really well in the TLX.

explorerx4

I watched a YT video today that was sponsored by the ATRA(Automatic Transmission Rebuilders Association).
Will need to look some place up for the Mustang. 1st and 2nd gears have a lot of slip, 3rd and 4th are fine.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

Just looked it up, I'm @233 ft.

Hey, me too, depending on what chair I’m sitting on.

jmonroe1 said:

snakeweasel said:

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

Even though I didn’t have any issues with the CVT in my 13 Accord I am still not convinced of their longevity. From what I’ve read they are expensive to replace as repair is generally not an option.

From my reading Honda makes their own in house CVT and it’s trouble free. Same with Toyota who uses Aisin CVTs. The problem is CVTs made by Jatco, a former subsidiary of Nissan which makes them for many different brands. Those were noted as unreliable, at least a few years ago.

I’m hearing that they are almost impossible to repair and most shops just drop a new one in for $6500. Ouch!

That’s why I’d be leery of buying any car with a CVT. Honda’s might be better but will it go 250k miles like a regular Honda automatic? Might be expensive to find out.

My understanding is that a CVT currently will not last as long as a automatic transmission. This will more than likely change as the technology advances but as of now it doesn't last as near as long. If you are leasing it's no big deal but if you plan on keeping a car a long time it is a deal breaker for me.

Also consider that not every mechanic knows how to service a CVT, so taking it to your friendly neighborhood mechanic for transmission work might not be an option.

The days of your trusted indie working on trannies is long gone even the shifting types. If they are honest they tell you to drive on down to a local tranny shop in the area. The non-trusty ones tell you to drop it off and they’ll look at it and they’ll get back to you with an estimate. In reality they drive it to a local tranny shop and get an estimate. A classic case of a middle man.

When a car is under warranty the dealer does it. Out of warranty they may also drive it to the local tranny shop if they take pity on you and can’t hold a straight face giving you a price for them doing it. If it’s done differently in your area you live in the most honest area doing car repairs.

jmonroe

My indie guy never did tranny work beyond fluid changes, now he does very little at all. That’s why I have my indie tranny guy as well.