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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,024
    edited March 2022
    The old vaccine was one dose, I think. Shingrix 2nd dose isn't a booster. It's a two-dose vaccine.

    Also, the old vaccine was only 50% effective vs. 90% for Shingrix

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,591
    kyfdx said:

    The old vaccine was one dose, I think. Shingrix 2nd dose isn't a booster. It's a two-dose vaccine.

    Also, the old vaccine was only 50% effective vs. 90% for Shingrix

    Thanks - I do know she got the vaccine a few years back, so it's likely the original formula.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,394
    Great timing people. We are going in for first dose Monday! I actually had a minor case in 2008 but it was no bother. Probably because f all the other meds I was getting at that time which would kill anything.

    Michael, that was the old vaccine which was one for. My wife had that. But the recommendation is that if you got that one, to get both doses of Shingrex anyway. So take her with you!

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,591
    stickguy said:

    Great timing people. We are going in for first dose Monday! I actually had a minor case in 2008 but it was no bother. Probably because f all the other meds I was getting at that time which would kill anything.

    Michael, that was the old vaccine which was one for. My wife had that. But the recommendation is that if you got that one, to get both doses of Shingrex anyway. So take her with you!

    I'm already fully vaccinated. I'll mention to her that she should get the Shingrex shots pronto.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,293
    Michaell said:


    Question - has there ever been a time where there wasn't a second shot necessary? My wife has only received one dose of the vaccine. She was surprised when I told her I was getting the booster.

    Probably a time before the manufacturer realized people would gladly pay twice for protection. :p

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,024
    ab348 said:

    Michaell said:


    Question - has there ever been a time where there wasn't a second shot necessary? My wife has only received one dose of the vaccine. She was surprised when I told her I was getting the booster.

    Probably a time before the manufacturer realized people would gladly pay twice for protection. :p
    In the US, it is now covered by health insurance, 100%.

    A few years ago, it was pretty expensive ($hundreds)

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,293
    kyfdx said:

    ab348 said:

    Michaell said:


    Question - has there ever been a time where there wasn't a second shot necessary? My wife has only received one dose of the vaccine. She was surprised when I told her I was getting the booster.

    Probably a time before the manufacturer realized people would gladly pay twice for protection. :p
    In the US, it is now covered by health insurance, 100%.

    A few years ago, it was pretty expensive ($hundreds)
    Not covered up here in the land of "free" healthcare. It cost me a little over $300 for the pair of doses, plus a charge for the pharmacist to do the injections.

    I figured this year I would finally get a deduction on my taxes for such costs, since I had close to $1500 in uncovered charges I had to pay. No such luck. I discovered that you need to have incurred costs something in excess of 3% of your income to get a deduction. Grrr.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,342
    ab348 said:

    kyfdx said:

    ab348 said:

    Michaell said:


    Question - has there ever been a time where there wasn't a second shot necessary? My wife has only received one dose of the vaccine. She was surprised when I told her I was getting the booster.

    Probably a time before the manufacturer realized people would gladly pay twice for protection. :p
    In the US, it is now covered by health insurance, 100%.

    A few years ago, it was pretty expensive ($hundreds)
    Not covered up here in the land of "free" healthcare. It cost me a little over $300 for the pair of doses, plus a charge for the pharmacist to do the injections.

    I figured this year I would finally get a deduction on my taxes for such costs, since I had close to $1500 in uncovered charges I had to pay. No such luck. I discovered that you need to have incurred costs something in excess of 3% of your income to get a deduction. Grrr.
    Is cheating on your taxes illegal in Canada? :o

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  • clm8clm8 Member Posts: 75
    My mother had shingles in her late 70's. It ruined and shortened her life. She was never the same and never recovered from the neuropathy caused by it. She died at 81, her last two years were not pleasant. I encourage everyone to get the vaccine.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,024
    ab348 said:

    kyfdx said:

    ab348 said:

    Michaell said:


    Question - has there ever been a time where there wasn't a second shot necessary? My wife has only received one dose of the vaccine. She was surprised when I told her I was getting the booster.

    Probably a time before the manufacturer realized people would gladly pay twice for protection. :p
    In the US, it is now covered by health insurance, 100%.

    A few years ago, it was pretty expensive ($hundreds)
    Not covered up here in the land of "free" healthcare. It cost me a little over $300 for the pair of doses, plus a charge for the pharmacist to do the injections.

    I figured this year I would finally get a deduction on my taxes for such costs, since I had close to $1500 in uncovered charges I had to pay. No such luck. I discovered that you need to have incurred costs something in excess of 3% of your income to get a deduction. Grrr.
    Medical expenses have to exceed 7.5% of your gross, to be deductible, here.

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  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,169
    Michaell said:

    kyfdx said:

    venture said:

    I got my second dose of Shingrix yesterday. I had forgotten how sore your arm gets what with all the jabs I have gotten for Covid, flu, and shingles.

    Still - way worth it.

    Yeah, got that last Fall. Kicked my butt.

    Hearing other senior citizens relating their struggles with shingles is terrifying, though.
    Maybe I'm just lucky - I had my second Shingrix shot in December and had no issues.

    My dad had shingles when he was 70 - the after effects were with him the rest of his life.

    And a childhood friend is going through it now, in her early 60's. I'm afraid of what she's in for.

    Glad to hear we're getting vaccinated.

    Question - has there ever been a time where there wasn't a second shot necessary? My wife has only received one dose of the vaccine. She was surprised when I told her I was getting the booster.
    I got one shingles shot many years ago that was a single dose. My doctor said to get the newer Shingrix because it is much better than the old one. So, yes, at one time it was only one. She should probably check with her doctor.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,293
    kyfdx said:


    Medical expenses have to exceed 7.5% of your gross, to be deductible, here.

    I did not know that. Both there and here, I find it hard to understand why health care expenses are not fully deductible. The tax codes are such a mishmash of patchwork provisions and complexity that very little makes sense.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,024
    ab348 said:

    kyfdx said:


    Medical expenses have to exceed 7.5% of your gross, to be deductible, here.

    I did not know that. Both there and here, I find it hard to understand why health care expenses are not fully deductible. The tax codes are such a mishmash of patchwork provisions and complexity that very little makes sense.
    With the last tax reform act, the standard deduction was doubled, so the number of filers who can itemize has dwindled, anyway. Add in the cap on state and local taxes at $10K (SALT), and that has just about killed it.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    It would probably cost less for the government to pay for your Shingrex shot than it is to cover your hospital costs plus any ongoing health issues caused by getting Shingles!

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  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,169
    I got my second set of Covid test kits in the mail today. Much faster than the last time.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    venture said:

    It's on the window sticker as something you pay for, but if they can add ADM's, the weasel-bastards can do about anything.

    It's called what the market can bear.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,977
    edited March 2022

    @kyfdx said:
    With the last tax reform act, the standard deduction was doubled, so the number of filers who can itemize has dwindled, anyway. Add in the cap on state and local taxes at $10K (SALT), and that has just about killed it.

    I just handed my stuff off to the accountant. I’m pretty sure with two houses on fresh mortgages we will be itemizing this year.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    kyfdx said:

    ab348 said:

    kyfdx said:

    ab348 said:

    Michaell said:


    Question - has there ever been a time where there wasn't a second shot necessary? My wife has only received one dose of the vaccine. She was surprised when I told her I was getting the booster.

    Probably a time before the manufacturer realized people would gladly pay twice for protection. :p
    In the US, it is now covered by health insurance, 100%.

    A few years ago, it was pretty expensive ($hundreds)
    Not covered up here in the land of "free" healthcare. It cost me a little over $300 for the pair of doses, plus a charge for the pharmacist to do the injections.

    I figured this year I would finally get a deduction on my taxes for such costs, since I had close to $1500 in uncovered charges I had to pay. No such luck. I discovered that you need to have incurred costs something in excess of 3% of your income to get a deduction. Grrr.
    Medical expenses have to exceed 7.5% of your gross, to be deductible, here.
    Not only that but it has to be enough to get you over the standard deduction.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,024
    tjc78 said:

    @kyfdx said:

    With the last tax reform act, the standard deduction was doubled, so the number of filers who can itemize has dwindled, anyway. Add in the cap on state and local taxes at $10K (SALT), and that has just about killed it.

    I just handed my stuff off to the accountant. I’m pretty sure with two houses on fresh mortgages we will be itemizing this year.


    Aren't you still restricted to just $10K in SALT?

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,736
    You can still write off mortgage interest.
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,834
    We refi'ed last year down to 2.375% - this is the first year that our return is going to end up going with the standard deduction.
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  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,169
    I just got gas in Mrs. venture's Ascent. $4.46 for regular.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,024

    You can still write off mortgage interest.

    Mortgage?

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,342

    venture said:

    It's on the window sticker as something you pay for, but if they can add ADM's, the weasel-bastards can do about anything.

    It's called what the market can bear.
    I’d say it’s more like what you can get away with.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 9,342
    kyfdx said:

    You can still write off mortgage interest.

    Mortgage?
    Man, am I glad those days are over.

    I can’t tell you how many mailings I get from banks about refinancing. Those go right in the round file.

    About a month ago I made the mistake of answering the phone. In my defense I was expecting a call about the flip house so I had to answer the phone. It was a lending institution wanting me to refinance. I told the guy I no longer had a mortgage. He didn’t miss a beat and said, “sir, that tells me you could walk away from the table with a LOT of money. Just think what you could do with that kind of money. Like buy a car and not have a car payment go on a vacation and not have to put it on your credit card”. I kept telling him I wasn’t interested but he kept talking. I finally had to hang up on him.

    I’m still kicking myself for not getting a car without car payments and a sunburn I wouldn’t have to pay for. What’s wrong with me? :'(

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,736
    @kyfdx,
    Mortgage is pretty cheap money.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,024

    @kyfdx,
    Mortgage is pretty cheap money.

    Made that calculation two years ago. Paying 3% interest I couldn’t deduct vs. earning 2.4% on cash that I had to pay tax on? Easy call.

    Of course, my mortgage was small by that time, and I had excess cash from a rental real estate sale. 🤷‍♂️

    Rates are great, if you have somewhere to put it to work.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,736
    Until this year we were always able to go long form.
    It's still cheap money made better if you invest it in something that provides a decent return.
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  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,234

    @qbrozen said:
    Do you have a 220 in your laundry room? What size breaker and wire go to it? If it is there, and if sized properly, you can certainly T off it; however, if you try to run a 220v dryer while your car is charging, you'll have a problem.

    220, 221… whatever it takes.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,977

    @kyfdx said:
    Aren't you still restricted to just $10K in SALT?

    Yes, but our mortgages are new and even at low interest rates it adds up.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    jmonroe1 said:

    venture said:

    It's on the window sticker as something you pay for, but if they can add ADM's, the weasel-bastards can do about anything.

    It's called what the market can bear.
    I’d say it’s more like what you can get away with.

    jmonroe
    Pretty much the same thing, just a different way to put it.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,345
    An attorney friend has a wife who is a teacher. She has a particularly bad class this year. He told her that she should have me talk to the class and give them the speech I used to give in juvie court:
    "If I ever see you in my courtroom again I am sending you to a detention center in eastern Kentucky where sunshine has to be piped in and your most prized possession will be soap on a rope. There you will remain until your decaying flesh drops from your bleached bones."

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,977

    @ronsteve said:

    @qbrozen said:
    Do you have a 220 in your laundry room? What size breaker and wire go to it? If it is there, and if sized properly, you can certainly T off it; however, if you try to run a 220v dryer while your car is charging, you'll have a problem.

    220, 221… whatever it takes.

    I’ll make us all feel old. I said that in a meeting a few weeks back and it bombed. Too young an audience.

    The conversation was perfect too, it was about adding electrical drops.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,394

    I don’t get the reference. And I’m definitely old.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    stickguy said:

    I don’t get the reference. And I’m definitely old.

    maybe this would help.


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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,394

    Nope

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    tjc78 said:

    @ronsteve said:

    @qbrozen said:

    Do you have a 220 in your laundry room? What size breaker and wire go to it? If it is there, and if sized properly, you can certainly T off it; however, if you try to run a 220v dryer while your car is charging, you'll have a problem.

    220, 221… whatever it takes.

    I’ll make us all feel old. I said that in a meeting a few weeks back and it bombed. Too young an audience.

    The conversation was perfect too, it was about adding electrical drops.


    A little while ago we had a little impromptu meeting and when we broke up the meeting one of the attendees left saying "so long and thanks for all the fish". I was the only one that got the reference.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740



    A little while ago we had a little impromptu meeting and when we broke up the meeting one of the attendees left saying "so long and thanks for all the fish". I was the only one that got the reference.

    Ya lost me on that one

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,590
    edited March 2022
    Long post about residential real estate market:

    From the Charlotte Business Journal:
    The median sales price of a home in Mecklenburg rose 18.3% over the course of 2021 to $355,000, up from $300,000 at the end of 2020, according to data from Canopy Multiple Listing Services Inc. The average sales price posted a similar increase, jumping 17.4% to $440,275 at year's end from $375,062 in 2020.

    And prices aren't showing signs of a slowdown to start the new year either. In January, the median and average sales prices of a Mecklenburg County home soared year over year by 21.8% and 18.4%, respectively, to reach $375,000 and $451,904.

    In fact, all but two ZIP codes in Mecklenburg County saw the median price of a home sold in 2021 jump year over year. That growth ranged anywhere from 4.7% to 32.2%.

    This is mind boggling. A lot of these homes are nothing special, just standard cookie cutter houses that were originally modest in price. My sister who works in a realtor's office says a lot of buyers are being shut out by investment groups. All cash deals with no inspection are becoming common from those that have the resources. She also said earnest money didn't have the influence it once did as I may have this wrong, a 'Due Diligence Deposit' is made instead. That means a buyer may offer $25k as a deposit to hold the property and to keep it off the market. If the buyer changes their mind for any reason, such as bad inspection report, they forfeit the deposit. The first time buyer is finding it extremely difficult to afford and compete in this market.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,024
    stickguy said:

    Nope

    The movie, Mr. Mom, with Michael Keaton and Teri Garr.

    It's a great movie.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,977

    @kyfdx said:
    The movie, Mr. Mom, with Michael Keaton and Teri Garr.

    It's a great movie.

    And somewhat car related (at least the beginning).

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,977

    @sda said:
    Long post about residential real estate market:

    From the Charlotte Business Journal:
    The median sales price of a home in Mecklenburg rose 18.3% over the course of 2021 to $355,000, up from $300,000 at the end of 2020, according to data from Canopy Multiple Listing Services Inc. The average sales price posted a similar increase, jumping 17.4% to $440,275 at year's end from $375,062 in 2020.

    And prices aren't showing signs of a slowdown to start the new year either. In January, the median and average sales prices of a Mecklenburg County home soared year over year by 21.8% and 18.4%, respectively, to reach $375,000 and $451,904.

    In fact, all but two ZIP codes in Mecklenburg County saw the median price of a home sold in 2021 jump year over year. That growth ranged anywhere from 4.7% to 32.2%.

    This is mind boggling. A lot of these homes are nothing special, just standard cookie cutter houses that were originally modest in price. My sister who works in a realtor's office says a lot of buyers are being shut out by investment groups. All cash deals with no inspection are becoming common from those that have the resources. She also said earnest money didn't have the influence it once did as I may have this wrong, a 'Due Diligence Deposit' is made instead. That means a buyer may offer $25k as a deposit to hold the property and to keep it off the market. If the buyer changes their mind for any reason, such as bad inspection report, they forfeit the deposit. The first time buyer is finding it extremely difficult to afford and compete in this market.

    The market is wild, our home is showing a value over 100K more than we paid in late 2020 (based on some more recent sales I believe it). Our shore home is up nearly 60K since last summer. When will it end?

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,223
    qbrozen said:



    A little while ago we had a little impromptu meeting and when we broke up the meeting one of the attendees left saying "so long and thanks for all the fish". I was the only one that got the reference.

    Ya lost me on that one
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,223
    kyfdx said:

    stickguy said:

    Nope

    The movie, Mr. Mom, with Michael Keaton and Teri Garr.

    It's a great movie.
    I found it too close to reality to be enjoyable.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,293
    sda said:

    Long post about residential real estate market:
    This is mind boggling. A lot of these homes are nothing special, just standard cookie cutter houses that were originally modest in price. My sister who works in a realtor's office says a lot of buyers are being shut out by investment groups. All cash deals with no inspection are becoming common from those that have the resources. She also said earnest money didn't have the influence it once did as I may have this wrong, a 'Due Diligence Deposit' is made instead. That means a buyer may offer $25k as a deposit to hold the property and to keep it off the market. If the buyer changes their mind for any reason, such as bad inspection report, they forfeit the deposit. The first time buyer is finding it extremely difficult to afford and compete in this market.

    Those are bargain prices compared to other places. Up here it has gone nuts for more than a year. There is similar chatter about outside "investors" buying things up and driving prices crazy-high, but very little factual info on that one way or the other. To me it doesn't seem like a very smart strategy to buy property at an already inflated price and then leave it vacant hoping for an even higher price. But what do I know.

    This community is rather far out in the boonies with little in the way of anything close by other than other subdivisions. Lots of newish development the last few year, like this place. It's nice enough, and well-presented, but I cannot see the value here. This is just one example of many.

    https://www.point2homes.com/CA/Home-For-Sale/NS/Eastern-Shore/Greater-Halifax/95-Birch-Hill-Court/118627232.html

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    tjc78 said:



    The market is wild, our home is showing a value over 100K more than we paid in late 2020 (based on some more recent sales I believe it). Our shore home is up nearly 60K since last summer. When will it end?

    Ours was appraised last summer for about 40% more than we paid in 2015. Made for a nice refi. Zillow claims it is up another 10% since then.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,591
    Ours is up 40% (or so say the on-line tools) from when we bought ours 4 years ago.

    I am skeptical about it, but it would be nice if it were true. And, if we were in the market to sell it.

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  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289

    tjc78 said:

    @ronsteve said:

    @qbrozen said:

    Do you have a 220 in your laundry room? What size breaker and wire go to it? If it is there, and if sized properly, you can certainly T off it; however, if you try to run a 220v dryer while your car is charging, you'll have a problem.

    220, 221… whatever it takes.

    I’ll make us all feel old. I said that in a meeting a few weeks back and it bombed. Too young an audience.

    The conversation was perfect too, it was about adding electrical drops.


    A little while ago we had a little impromptu meeting and when we broke up the meeting one of the attendees left saying "so long and thanks for all the fish". I was the only one that got the reference.

    You should have come back with, "And 42 IS the answer!"
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  • henrynhenryn Member Posts: 4,289
    edited March 2022


    Just saw this in one of my newsfeeds. Is gas really that expensive in Los Angeles?
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,591
    henryn said:



    Just saw this in one of my newsfeeds. Is gas really that expensive in Los Angeles?

    Yes, it is.

    There were a couple of ambitious stations in and around Beverly Hills charging north of $7/gal.

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