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oldfarmer50

nyccarguy said:

@28firefighter said:

Two stories:

First, I too am on monthly infusions that run $21k list. I think insurance pays a negotiated rate of $12k for the medication, nurse time, etc. My work insurance is very good and I hit my out of pocket max pretty quickly - thankfully the out of pocket is covered by the pharma company’s co pay assist program.

They’re moving me to a self-injectable pen moving forward and you’d think insurance would be thrilled at less hospital time for infusions. Nope. They fought my doc tooth and nail and eventually approved it.

Second, about 7 years ago I contracted an infection that my doctor’s misdiagnosed and spread throughout my body (see medication above that suppressed my immune system). I spent 3 weeks in intensive care, actually died, came back and eventually made it back to full health. **I was discharged to a $1.3 million bill that insurance negotiated down to $275k and ultimately was 100% covered. **

Healthcare quality is wildly uneven, insurance coverage is a dumpster fire, and if you don’t know what you’re doing you’re toast.

“I was discharged to a $1.3 million bill that insurance negotiated down to $275k and ultimately was 100% covered.”

The hospital got to write off $1,025,000 as a loss on their taxes the following year.

Exactly!

If you think insurance is bad, try having a major medical event happen without it. The hospital AND the government rake you over the coals.

qbrozen

@ab348 said:
Damn, QB! I can relate. In ‘09 after my open heart procedure I was sent home after 5 days and wasn’t in great shape. Somehow over the next few weeks my chest began filling with fluid, cause “unknown”, leading to a collapsed lung. They readmitted me to drain out the fluid and in the process wounded my chest wall causing more internal bleeding. I was in there for 3 weeks with a chest tube draining the mess they made and severely anemic for weeks afterward. Hope your recovery goes better than mine.

Ugh. That’s awful.

I got home late last night, pneumothorax and significant subcutaneous emphysema in tact. I just did not want to stay there any longer. It was so incredibly uncomfortable. Was in significant pain last night but could at least get settled enough to sleep maybe a scattered 6 hours or so. Feeling a little better this morn.

qbrozen

Two stories:
First, I too am on monthly infusions that run $21k list. I think insurance pays a negotiated rate of $12k for the medication, nurse time, etc. My work insurance is very good and I hit my out of pocket max pretty quickly - thankfully the out of pocket is covered by the pharma company’s co pay assist program.

They’re moving me to a self-injectable pen moving forward and you’d think insurance would be thrilled at less hospital time for infusions. Nope. They fought my doc tooth and nail and eventually approved it.

Second, about 7 years ago I contracted an infection that my doctor’s misdiagnosed and spread throughout my body (see medication above that suppressed my immune system). I spent 3 weeks in intensive care, actually died, came back and eventually made it back to full health. I was discharged to a $1.3 million bill that insurance negotiated down to $275k and ultimately was 100% covered.

Healthcare quality is wildly uneven, insurance coverage is a dumpster fire, and if you don’t know what you’re doing you’re toast.

Good god. Scary stuff.

stickguy

Walt, traditional Medicare with a medigap plan?

explorerx4

I have Medicare with a supplemental plan. I never see anything out of pocket. Just pay the premiums.

suydam

explorerx4 said:

I have Medicare with a supplemental plan. I never see anything out of pocket. Just pay the premiums.

Me too. I fractured my pelvis in January, spent 2 weeks in a rehab center, had home health physio after I was discharged and then outpatient PT after that. All covered.

stickguy

we have 2.5 years before having to commit, but from the research I have done right now I am planning on traditional Medicare with a supp plan, instead of a Part C advantage.

explorerx4

This is a new one on me. Not sure if only in Colorado.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K040MO1v7Zk

jmonroe1

explorerx4 said:

This is a new one on me. Not sure if only in Colorado.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K040MO1v7Zk

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Coming to a neighborhood near you. This stuff never ends.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

This is a new one on me. Not sure if only in Colorado.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K040MO1v7Zk

I just heard about that in CO. At a restaurant in Burlington VT. We got charged some sort of tourist fee plus a kitchen fee.

In NY we are soon to have a hidden carbon tax on everything.

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

we have 2.5 years before having to commit, but from the research I have done right now I am planning on traditional Medicare with a supp plan, instead of a Part C advantage.

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If you can afford it get a supplement plan. Advantage plans are free and we all know what free gets you. It’s great until you have a real bill then it ain’t so free anymore. And it’s a real money maker for the insurance companies that sell it. Why else do you see so much of it advertised on TV and mailers sent to your house?

I swear, if I tried to pick up all the advantage mailers I get in a year at one time, I’d need a hernia operation for which an advantage plan would just skim the surface. Cancer treatment, especially, is expensive with advantage plans.

The only down side of supplement (Edited right here) plans from what I was told, by several sources, is you have to get it when you’re first eligible for it. Meaning, when you start Medicare, because you can’t buy supplement plans after your health goes south.

jmonroe

mjfloyd1

qbrozen said:

And this is why hospitals are the worst thing for your health. Doc wound up damaging a lung yesterday (causing pneumothorax; aka, collapsed lung, albeit partial). X-ray today shows it has gotten worse over night. I don’t yet know what they are going to do about it but I’m back on oxygen for now waiting for doc to come in this afternoon.

Known complication with that surgery. Surprised that it wasn’t discussed. The esophagus passes through the hiatus in the crux of the right diaphragm. You had a hernia - the “hole” was too big and allowed part of the stomach to pass into the chest. Just the way the surgery is done by putting CO2 under pressure into the abdominal cavity could force some gas into the chest cavity. Then he had to repair the hiatal hernia using a needle and suture under robotic guidance.

https://jtd.amegroups.org/article/view/3160/html#:~:text=Pneumothorax is a known complication,in procedures such as fundoplication.

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

This is a new one on me. Not sure if only in Colorado.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K040MO1v7Zk

I just heard about that in CO. At a restaurant in Burlington VT. We got charged some sort of tourist fee plus a kitchen fee.

In NY we are soon to have a hidden carbon tax on everything.

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The first time I saw a “kitchen fee” was on vacation in Myrtle Beach two years ago. This was at a restaurant that was pretty good but coincidentally when they started that fee their food went down hill. For that reason alone, I wouldn’t go back but a double whammy for me is hard to take.

Just another way restaurant owners get their customers to pay even more for their hired help.

jmonroe

explorerx4

@jmonroe1,
Advantage plans are tied to HMO's, which are not necessarily bad. It limit your provider choices.
You may also have to get permission to exit the program.

ab348

Healthcare is so lucrative that there are always sharpies looking to get a piece of the action, even up here where the govt is supposedly providing publicly funded healthcare. Of course the list of things they do not cover is probably longer than the list of the things they cover. I had an example this week.

A few years ago a regular eye exam revealed I had a cataract developing in my left eye. Not really a surprise because if you live long enough you are likely to get them. Fortunately the ophthalmic surgery profession has developed quick and pretty successful techniques to replace the damaged natural lens with a man-made replacement. Last year I was told mine had finally reached the point where it needed replacement. I knew that anyway since distance vision on road signs was no longer sharp.

I was sent to the surgery clinic and it was a real eye-opener [apologies]. It was a large practice with 5 surgeons, several support staff for each, a bunch of different exam rooms, and a waiting area as large as an airport gate that was jam-packed. It was a real going concern. Finally I was granted an audience with the surgeon assigned to me and I began to figure things out.

Here, apparently if you are deemed a senior by the govt, your lens replacement is mostly covered. I had to pay a mystery $20 or so fee for something but otherwise all the tests they did were taxpayer funded, great. So is the surgery itself but with caveats. As the surgeon explained it to me, the govt pays for the bottom-line quality replacement lens. He said most people pony up an extra $25 that govt won’t cover for a better lens and that I’d probably want that. But wait, there’s more. If you wear glasses they can install corrective lenses in your eye. They can correct for distant vision, reading vision, astigmatism, a bunch of things. But my guy confused me when he said I would probably still need to wear glasses for some things, so I didn’t really see the point. If like me you need correction for both distance and reading I don’t know what they do. When he mentioned they were over $1000 per eye I gave it a pass. But I know people who coughed up that sum for both eyes.

Anyway, the ophthalmic bunch here have figured out that once govt decided to fund the basic replacement surgery they could make a bundle from it. Since they are private businesses billing the govt the more people they churn through the cataract mill the more they make, and if they can upsell those seniors, so much the better for them. I know the clinic I went to reminded me of a production line. I’ll be glad to have it done, but I find it odd that govt will pay to fix what is mostly (for me) just a bit of an inconvenience, at least right now.

mjfloyd1

Cataracts here are the same. Medicare and for basic surgery and basic lens. If you want the LenSx laser surgery or a better lens - progressive or a light adjustable lens that can be tweaked post op then you pay out of pocket. I’m almost always surprised at who pays extra for the laser or better lens. Almost always those who would least benefit from it but the heart wants what the heart wants.

corvette

@qbrozen - I hope the rest of your recovery is speedy and uneventful.

@laurasdada - I'm going to PM you a travel guide for Charleston which was started by a coworker of mine who used to live there. I revised it after my trip there a few years ago and also added Savannah content.

jmonroe1

mjfloyd1 said:

qbrozen said:

And this is why hospitals are the worst thing for your health. Doc wound up damaging a lung yesterday (causing pneumothorax; aka, collapsed lung, albeit partial). X-ray today shows it has gotten worse over night. I don’t yet know what they are going to do about it but I’m back on oxygen for now waiting for doc to come in this afternoon.

Known complication with that surgery. Surprised that it wasn’t discussed. The esophagus passes through the hiatus in the crux of the right diaphragm. You had a hernia - the “hole” was too big and allowed part of the stomach to pass into the chest. Just the way the surgery is done by putting CO2 under pressure into the abdominal cavity could force some gas into the chest cavity. Then he had to repair the hiatal hernia using a needle and suture under robotic guidance.

https://jtd.amegroups.org/article/view/3160/html#:~:text=Pneumothorax is a known complication,in procedures such as fundoplication.

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Pretty much all Greek to me.

jmonroe

qbrozen

@mjfloyd1 said:
Known complication with that surgery. Surprised that it wasn’t discussed. The esophagus passes through the hiatus in the crux of the right diaphragm. You had a hernia - the “hole” was too big and allowed part of the stomach to pass into the chest. Just the way the surgery is done by putting CO2 under pressure into the abdominal cavity could force some gas into the chest cavity. Then he had to repair the hiatal hernia using a needle and suture under robotic guidance.

https://jtd.amegroups.org/article/view/3160/html#:~:text=Pneumothorax is a known complication,in procedures such as fundoplication.

Nope. Never said “I might tear a lung.”

mjfloyd1

Pleural (parietal) tear not a “torn lung”. Air or gas gets between parietal and visceral pleura. Lung is inside visceral pleura.

Nonetheless, it is a known complication of that surgery. He would have said pneumothorax or “air around your lung”.

Can happen with cholecystectomy too. You should see the scrotum after laparoscopic inguinal hernia sometimes - they squeeze the gas out. Brings tears to my eyes. That’s not due to any tears of any pleura though.

qbrozen

He literally tore my lung. Told me so. And that brief opening before he sutured it caused the pneumothorax. It is written in his report the same way.

suydam

mjfloyd1 said:

Cataracts here are the same. Medicare and for basic surgery and basic lens. If you want the LenSx laser surgery or a better lens - progressive or a light adjustable lens that can be tweaked post op then you pay out of pocket. I’m almost always surprised at who pays extra for the laser or better lens. Almost always those who would least benefit from it but the heart wants what the heart wants.

I paid for it. I have worn coke bottle glasses almost my whole life and now I don’t need them at all. You can’t put a price on good vision. I call it lasik for seniors.

kyfdx

stickguy said:

Walt, traditional Medicare with a medigap plan?

Yes... NOT medicare advantage plan

kyfdx

stickguy said:

we have 2.5 years before having to commit, but from the research I have done right now I am planning on traditional Medicare with a supp plan, instead of a Part C advantage.

This would be my recommendation

mjfloyd1

qbrozen said:

He literally tore my lung. Told me so. And that brief opening before he sutured it caused the pneumothorax. It is written in his report the same way.

Pretty aggressive maneuver to do that..but whatever. - maybe it was scarred in and just maneuvering things tore the pleura. I suspect he is using lung and pleura interchangeably for some reason but that’s a conversation with him. If he truly tore your lung, it must be tiny as there is no airspace leak requiring a chest tube.

Either way, a pneumothorax is a known complication. The pleura is a lot closer than many seem to realize

Count your blessings that it was a small pneumothorax and you don’t have a chest tube.

stickguy

kyfdx said:

stickguy said:

we have 2.5 years before having to commit, but from the research I have done right now I am planning on traditional Medicare with a supp plan, instead of a Part C advantage.

This would be my recommendation

I get all my best advice from posters on the internet, so works for me!

stickguy

Got the rest of my metal shelves assembled. Even figured out the step I misinterpreted finally and went back to the first 3 and fixed them! Pictogram instructions often stink. But at least that part of the organization project is done. Now just have to put all the boxes away

driver100

mjfloyd1 said:

Cataracts here are the same. Medicare and for basic surgery and basic lens. If you want the LenSx laser surgery or a better lens - progressive or a light adjustable lens that can be tweaked post op then you pay out of pocket. I’m almost always surprised at who pays extra for the laser or better lens. Almost always those who would least benefit from it but the heart wants what the heart wants.

We've been watching All Saints on Prime, a medical series, 12 seasons and 43 shows a season, that is like almost 500 shows. By the time we are done I should be able to perform any kind of medical surgery needed.

imidazol97

driver100 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Cataracts here are the same. Medicare and for basic surgery and basic lens. If you want the LenSx laser surgery or a better lens - progressive or a light adjustable lens that can be tweaked post op then you pay out of pocket. I’m almost always surprised at who pays extra for the laser or better lens. Almost always those who would least benefit from it but the heart wants what the heart wants.

We've been watching All Saints on Prime, a medical series, 12 seasons and 43 shows a season, that is like almost 500 shows. By the time we are done I should be able to perform any kind of medical surgery needed.

Our family doctor often "jokes" about people coming in having self-diagnosed or asking for medications based on what they've seen on the internet/TV.

I impressed him a week ago for my 6-month checkup. I took in the lab results from our area med lab which has do-it-yourself lab packages. I had a men's package which included blood work of common types. I was concerned about having taken lots of ibuprofen and acetaminophen during my 5 months of groin tear or strain-- pulled muscle/tendon pain. I also took in my Kardio 6-lead 30 second heart scan again.

Only lab he needed to order was a TSH, T3, T4.

roadburner

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Cataracts here are the same. Medicare and for basic surgery and basic lens. If you want the LenSx laser surgery or a better lens - progressive or a light adjustable lens that can be tweaked post op then you pay out of pocket. I’m almost always surprised at who pays extra for the laser or better lens. Almost always those who would least benefit from it but the heart wants what the heart wants.

We've been watching All Saints on Prime, a medical series, 12 seasons and 43 shows a season, that is like almost 500 shows. By the time we are done I should be able to perform any kind of medical surgery needed.

Our family doctor often "jokes" about people coming in having self-diagnosed or asking for medications based on what they've seen on the internet/TV.

I impressed him a week ago for my 6-month checkup. I took in the lab results from our area med lab which has do-it-yourself lab packages. I had a men's package which included blood work of common types. I was concerned about having taken lots of ibuprofen and acetaminophen during my 5 months of groin tear or strain-- pulled muscle/tendon pain. I also took in my Kardio 6-lead 30 second heart scan again.

Only lab he needed to order was a TSH, T3, T4.

Many of the victims I deal with are legal experts because they've watched Law and Order or similar shows. It's exasperating to a high degree.

driver100

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Cataracts here are the same. Medicare and for basic surgery and basic lens. If you want the LenSx laser surgery or a better lens - progressive or a light adjustable lens that can be tweaked post op then you pay out of pocket. I’m almost always surprised at who pays extra for the laser or better lens. Almost always those who would least benefit from it but the heart wants what the heart wants.

We've been watching All Saints on Prime, a medical series, 12 seasons and 43 shows a season, that is like almost 500 shows. By the time we are done I should be able to perform any kind of medical surgery needed.

Our family doctor often "jokes" about people coming in having self-diagnosed or asking for medications based on what they've seen on the internet/TV.

I impressed him a week ago for my 6-month checkup. I took in the lab results from our area med lab which has do-it-yourself lab packages. I had a men's package which included blood work of common types. I was concerned about having taken lots of ibuprofen and acetaminophen during my 5 months of groin tear or strain-- pulled muscle/tendon pain. I also took in my Kardio 6-lead 30 second heart scan again.

Only lab he needed to order was a TSH, T3, T4.

Our pharmacist said he hates shows like 20/20 and 60 Minutes that show what meds are bad for you or what vitamins or other meds you should take for various things. Whenever they show one of these he gets people asking about it for weeks.

jmonroe1

roadburner said:

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Cataracts here are the same. Medicare and for basic surgery and basic lens. If you want the LenSx laser surgery or a better lens - progressive or a light adjustable lens that can be tweaked post op then you pay out of pocket. I’m almost always surprised at who pays extra for the laser or better lens. Almost always those who would least benefit from it but the heart wants what the heart wants.

We've been watching All Saints on Prime, a medical series, 12 seasons and 43 shows a season, that is like almost 500 shows. By the time we are done I should be able to perform any kind of medical surgery needed.

Our family doctor often "jokes" about people coming in having self-diagnosed or asking for medications based on what they've seen on the internet/TV.

I impressed him a week ago for my 6-month checkup. I took in the lab results from our area med lab which has do-it-yourself lab packages. I had a men's package which included blood work of common types. I was concerned about having taken lots of ibuprofen and acetaminophen during my 5 months of groin tear or strain-- pulled muscle/tendon pain. I also took in my Kardio 6-lead 30 second heart scan again.

Only lab he needed to order was a TSH, T3, T4.

Many of the victims I deal with are legal experts because they've watched Law and Order or similar shows. It's exasperating to a high degree.

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I can understand that but don’t they still have a fool as their client. Although I guess you have to hear them out.

jmonroe

roadburner

jmonroe1 said:

roadburner said:

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Cataracts here are the same. Medicare and for basic surgery and basic lens. If you want the LenSx laser surgery or a better lens - progressive or a light adjustable lens that can be tweaked post op then you pay out of pocket. I’m almost always surprised at who pays extra for the laser or better lens. Almost always those who would least benefit from it but the heart wants what the heart wants.

We've been watching All Saints on Prime, a medical series, 12 seasons and 43 shows a season, that is like almost 500 shows. By the time we are done I should be able to perform any kind of medical surgery needed.

Our family doctor often "jokes" about people coming in having self-diagnosed or asking for medications based on what they've seen on the internet/TV.

I impressed him a week ago for my 6-month checkup. I took in the lab results from our area med lab which has do-it-yourself lab packages. I had a men's package which included blood work of common types. I was concerned about having taken lots of ibuprofen and acetaminophen during my 5 months of groin tear or strain-- pulled muscle/tendon pain. I also took in my Kardio 6-lead 30 second heart scan again.

Only lab he needed to order was a TSH, T3, T4.

Many of the victims I deal with are legal experts because they've watched Law and Order or similar shows. It's exasperating to a high degree.

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I can understand that but don’t they still have a fool as their client. Although I guess you have to hear them out.

jmonroe

I do hear them out and I try my best to explain the situation. The worst are the "I don't want a plea bargain, I want to go to trial!" victims- I don't have the resources or time to take weak cases to trial. Early on I did take one such case to trial- I warned the vics that the judge would likely dismiss it before the defense presented their case. Of course the judge did exactly that. On the way down in the elevator afterwards one Vic said, "That's what you said would happen." It took an extreme amount of self-restraint not to reply, "Well, after you work in the legal system for 37 years you kind of get a feel for some things."

andres3

I remember my first surgery in life was getting my wisdom teeth taken out. Even with that minor procedure the video went into details about possible complications, including but not limited to DEATH!

Pretty sure you have to sign a lot of fine print before any surgery that acknowledges a lot can go wrong.

explorerx4

Some relatives of my older grandson, who is soon to be 5, gave him a bird feeder.
Since it was designed like a tire and we assumed it was rubber or plastic.
As soon as he carried it outside, he dropped it on the patio and it shattered into a bunch of pieces.
Turns out it was ceramic.
He was disconsolate, understatement, for quite a while.
I told him I would fix it for him, so I've been working on it.
A work in progress but getting there.

suydam

Will the glue and such be safe for the birds? I’d just let him pick out a new, sturdier one.

explorerx4

@suydam,
Jeez, a few weeks ago, I got lawn shamed, now bird feeder shamed.
Are you afraid that the birds are going to sniff the glue?
Did you check to see that the lithium in your EV anf PHEV were responsibly sourced?

jmonroe1

suydam said:

Will the glue and such be safe for the birds? I’d just let him pick out a new, sturdier one.

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I never thought of that. If a bird croaks as a result of the rebuild the bird huggers will come down on him unmercifully. That’s what happens when you try to be a good grand daddy.

jmonroe

stickguy

explorerx4 said:

Some relatives of my older grandson, who is soon to be 5, gave him a bird feeder.
Since it was designed like a tire and we assumed it was rubber or plastic.
As soon as he carried it outside, he dropped it on the patio and it shattered into a bunch of pieces.
Turns out it was ceramic.
He was disconsolate, understatement, for quite a while.
I told him I would fix it for him, so I've been working on it.
A work in progress but getting there.

better man than me. I would have ordered another one off Amazon and pretended I fixed it!

jmonroe1

HEY, has anyone noticed that Edmunds lost my mug shot? As best as I know my dues check didn’t bounce. But maybe I should stop payment on it if this is how I’m going to be treated.

jmonroe

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

HEY, has anyone noticed that Edmunds lost my mug shot? As best as I know my dues check didn’t bounce. But maybe I should stop payment on it if this is how I’m going to be treated.

jmonroe

I thought that was the new you after a beauty treatment!

driver100

@explorerx4
The birds might get high (so to speak) from all that glue.
btw...the package says ceramic. Not sure why they would make something that could break easily out of ceramic material.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

HEY, has anyone noticed that Edmunds lost my mug shot? As best as I know my dues check didn’t bounce. But maybe I should stop payment on it if this is how I’m going to be treated.

jmonroe

I thought that was the new you after a beauty treatment!

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I notice it’s back now but the new mug shot is not the same. It’s still blue but not the same. Close but no cigar.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

HEY, has anyone noticed that Edmunds lost my mug shot? As best as I know my dues check didn’t bounce. But maybe I should stop payment on it if this is how I’m going to be treated.

jmonroe

I thought that was the new you after a beauty treatment!

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I notice it’s back now but the new mug shot is not the same. It’s still blue but not the same. Close but no cigar.

jmonroe

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Now it’s gone again. I must be in the Twilight Zone.

jmonroe

28firefighter

You’re a good grandfather, @explorerx4 . Hard lesson to learn at 5, with a gift no less, that some things can’t be fixed back to before. He’ll remember you tried though.

suydam

driver100 said:

@explorerx4
The birds might get high (so to speak) from all that glue.
btw...the package says ceramic. Not sure why they would make something that could break easily out of ceramic material.

Or why people would give a breakable present to a 5 year old.

jmonroe1

jmonroe1 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

HEY, has anyone noticed that Edmunds lost my mug shot? As best as I know my dues check didn’t bounce. But maybe I should stop payment on it if this is how I’m going to be treated.

jmonroe

I thought that was the new you after a beauty treatment!

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I notice it’s back now but the new mug shot is not the same. It’s still blue but not the same. Close but no cigar.

jmonroe

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Now it’s gone again. I must be in the Twilight Zone.

jmonroe

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And now I notice without that mug shot I can’t get into my profile. This may be a coincidence but the last time I had trouble with my account was when Edmunds was doing something with their sites and some folks had problems and I was one of those and that’s when they got me restarted but that’s also when the clock restarted for me and I lost my seniority. Started again with post No.1. Another coincidence is this also happened in August but I can’t remember the year. If I had to guess I’d say maybe 2018.

jmonroe

stickguy

1, 2 or 3, we still know who you are.

ab348

jmonroe1 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

HEY, has anyone noticed that Edmunds lost my mug shot? As best as I know my dues check didn’t bounce. But maybe I should stop payment on it if this is how I’m going to be treated.

jmonroe

I thought that was the new you after a beauty treatment!

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I notice it’s back now but the new mug shot is not the same. It’s still blue but not the same. Close but no cigar.

jmonroe

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Now it’s gone again. I must be in the Twilight Zone.

jmonroe

Perhaps that old coal-fired, steam-powered PC of yours finally is telling you it needs an update.

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

HEY, has anyone noticed that Edmunds lost my mug shot? As best as I know my dues check didn’t bounce. But maybe I should stop payment on it if this is how I’m going to be treated.

jmonroe

I thought that was the new you after a beauty treatment!

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I notice it’s back now but the new mug shot is not the same. It’s still blue but not the same. Close but no cigar.

jmonroe

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Now it’s gone again. I must be in the Twilight Zone.

jmonroe

I thought you sent in an updated photo