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laurasdada

oldfarmer50 said:

laurasdada said:

@sb55 neighborhood (Vermont) has been seeing some heavy rainfall, with more to come. Hope all is well with...

Mainly just showers in southern VT as of this afternoon. No where near the records in Wilmington.

The town of my ski youth. Began skiing at Haystack and Mt. Snow. Fond, distant memories of staying at the Old Red Mill Inn, a mechanical ski game in the lobby.
My parents returned later in life as snowbirds to Wilmington; they loved it.

driver100

A friend got his wife a Cadillac Lyriq EV a few months ago. I will abbreviate the story or it will become like a JMonroe novel;
He gets a call from the dealer that he must bring his car in for service. He says he can do it next week. They say they want him to bring it in that day. They do 10 tests on it. They tell him they have to keep it for 5 weeks, they have to change the battery. He says can't he use it until the battery arrives from Detroit?
They say no, they have to park it in a field....can't be inside or near anything (we are thinking it could explode).
They will give him a car to use. He complains and asks to get the battery right away.
The battery is worth $20000...., since he insisted and went higher up they ship it a lot sooner. They say it will take 2 more weeks to install it, the car weighs too much for the lifts...they need a truck lift because the car weighs so much.
The lifts are being used so he takes it to another dealer to have the new battery installed.
They do it all and it takes 3 weeks total.
Not a problem I would want to deal with. It doesn't sound like GM to be that cooperative, however, they probably don't want too much publicity about this problem.

stickguy

A rare occurrence. And I’m sure plenty of people have anecdotes about new cars having problems and being laid up for a long time waiting for some parts.

driver100

Thanks for explaining.

stickguy said:

A rare occurrence. And I’m sure plenty of people have anecdotes about new cars having problems and being laid up for a long time waiting for some parts.

....and parking it in an empty field waiting for a new $20000 battery to arrive.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

A rare occurrence. And I’m sure plenty of people have anecdotes about new cars having problems and being laid up for a long time waiting for some parts.

https://youtu.be/-_JS0oumEWs?si=78_OdkLUNer5S_me

stickguy

@driver100 said:
Thanks for explaining.
....and parking it in an empty field waiting for a new $20000 battery to arrive.

BMW has had recalls where you were told. It to park in the garage. And they were not the only brand.

explorerx4

Took my Explorer in yesterday for oil change/tire rotation and a software update.
The radio and nav maps were acting kind of flaky.
Dropped it off at 9am and called at 4pm for a status check.
Was told that the tech was just wrapping up and I would get a call when complete.
Got the call today at noon today.
I have one TPMS that reads a pound high and that moved. Also, map and radio seem to be ok now.
Only bad thing is, the Ford Pass app got disconnected.
It took me 10 days to reconnect it when I did a Master Reset a few weeks ago.

andres3

In CA if a company asks you to park a newish car for more than 30 days it's an automatic Lemon.

laurasdada

driver100 said:

A friend got his wife a Cadillac Lyriq EV a few months ago. I will abbreviate the story or it will become like a JMonroe novel;
He gets a call from the dealer that he must bring his car in for service. He says he can do it next week. They say they want him to bring it in that day. They do 10 tests on it. They tell him they have to keep it for 5 weeks, they have to change the battery. He says can't he use it until the battery arrives from Detroit?
They say no, they have to park it in a field....can't be inside or near anything (we are thinking it could explode).
They will give him a car to use. He complains and asks to get the battery right away.
The battery is worth $20000...., since he insisted and went higher up they ship it a lot sooner. They say it will take 2 more weeks to install it, the car weighs too much for the lifts...they need a truck lift because the car weighs so much.
The lifts are being used so he takes it to another dealer to have the new battery installed.
They do it all and it takes 3 weeks total.
Not a problem I would want to deal with. It doesn't sound like GM to be that cooperative, however, they probably don't want too much publicity about this problem.

Well, it is a GM product...

suydam

stickguy said:

@driver100 said:

Thanks for explaining.

....and parking it in an empty field waiting for a new $20000 battery to arrive.

BMW has had recalls where you were told. It to park in the garage. And they were not the only brand.

I have a friend who had to live a year without any of the infotainment systems, including nav, on her new Subaru because of a parts shortage. Have not heard of anyone else having this issue, so I assume just bad luck.

Michaell

Was behind a C7 Corvette today with the following vanity plate:

TESLAHA

nyccarguy

@suydam said:
I have a friend who had to live a year without any of the infotainment systems, including nav, on her new Subaru because of a parts shortage. Have not heard of anyone else having this issue, so I assume just bad luck.

My mother in law has a 2024 Crosstrek she bought new about a year ago. She’s had a few issues with the eyesight system - she’ll be driving along and the dash lights up like a Christmas tree that a bunch of the active safety systems aren’t working. It was “fixed” once, but a few other times she drove away from the dealer and the lights came back on after 2 blocks. The most recent visit, the dash lights lit up and she brought it to the dealer and they shut off. The dealer asked her very condescendingly if she was SURE the dash lights were on? I think she’s contacted a lemon law attorney.

Michaell

nyccarguy said:

@suydam said:

I have a friend who had to live a year without any of the infotainment systems, including nav, on her new Subaru because of a parts shortage. Have not heard of anyone else having this issue, so I assume just bad luck.

My mother in law has a 2024 Crosstrek she bought new about a year ago. She’s had a few issues with the eyesight system - she’ll be driving along and the dash lights up like a Christmas tree that a bunch of the active safety systems aren’t working. It was “fixed” once, but a few other times she drove away from the dealer and the lights came back on after 2 blocks. The most recent visit, the dash lights lit up and she brought it to the dealer and they shut off. The dealer asked her very condescendingly if she was SURE the dash lights were on? I think she’s contacted a lemon law attorney.

I'm part of an Outback group on FB, and this seems to be a common problem with the latest generation - not sure that folks believe it's specifically Eyesight related, but the "Christmas tree" of warning lights on the dash are common, it seems.

driver100

@oldfarmer50 In the video it seems Fords have a serious problem where the engine dies at a bad time. Ford says the car isn't safe to drive, but a part won't be available to fix it for about a year.

That sounds like the time for lemon laws or for a law suit. What good is a $50000 car if you can't even drive it.
Lights lighting up and certain features not working is bad enough, but you can't even drive a car you bought for one year......there should be laws to protect the consumer in this case.

sda

nyccarguy said:

@suydam said:

I have a friend who had to live a year without any of the infotainment systems, including nav, on her new Subaru because of a parts shortage. Have not heard of anyone else having this issue, so I assume just bad luck.

My mother in law has a 2024 Crosstrek she bought new about a year ago. She’s had a few issues with the eyesight system - she’ll be driving along and the dash lights up like a Christmas tree that a bunch of the active safety systems aren’t working. It was “fixed” once, but a few other times she drove away from the dealer and the lights came back on after 2 blocks. The most recent visit, the dash lights lit up and she brought it to the dealer and they shut off. The dealer asked her very condescendingly if she was SURE the dash lights were on? I think she’s contacted a lemon law attorney.

Perhaps next time that happens have her take a picture or short video of it. That helped me show a technician how our garage door was randomly acting up and would fail in mid travel or not respond at all.

ab348

Over on some Mazda sites there is no shortage of posts about owners of the new CX-90 having all sorts of problems, many of them due to safety nanny features or electronic controls misbehaving at inopportune moments and rendering the car undriveable. They apparently have had a number of lemon law cases go against Mazda with another of other instances where Mazda kicked in some money to take the defective one back and provide a replacement vehicle. Their lack of proper product development prior to releasing it for sale is quite astounding.

ab348

Speaking of such things, I’ve spent a good part of the last 2 days watching the NTSB hearings on the Boeing 737 exit door plug failure back in January. It wasn’t quite what I expected since the people directly affected were interviewed earlier, so this was mostly directed at how Boeing makes airplanes. The process is a bit of a slog because it is quasi-judicial but it was also fascinating. Not only do NTSB members ask questions of the witnesses, but so do reps of related bodies like representatives and unions for the affected airlines, pilot associations, flight attendant associations, machinists and so on. It gets deep into the weeds sometimes, but there were lots of very intelligent people up there and so far there wasn’t any one single villain.

It seemed clear to me that any aircraft manufacturer is up against it when something goes wrong with their product because it is such a complex machine and the results are so devastating. There is clearly a culture issue at Boeing trying to produce too many planes too quickly and not following their own procedures as a result. Their reaction to past issues was to create more policies and procedures which don’t help much on the factory floor. It seemed pretty clear to me that the top finance people are creating the bedlam in the plants by not scaling up the facilities and headcount to do what’s necessary, which has now cost them a bundle.

One aspect that impressed me was the NTSB Chair, Jennifer Homendy, who was running the hearing. I first saw her when the incident occurred in January when she had a few news conferences and again in March when the Francis Scott Key Bridge was destroyed in Baltimore. She is unlike most government officials I’m used to in that she is, for want of a better word, a bada**. She does not tolerate fools or chicanery well. I like her.

explorerx4

I tired out the dog this evening making her run after a stuffed toy and wrestling it away from her.

ab348

You’re a cruel master.

My cat Lucy is very different. She comes up to me like she wants me to get a toy and play with her, then when I do so, refuses to play. Cats…

explorerx4

@ab348.
She is visiting because the kids and grandkids didn't have power due to the tornado's.
Gets pretty nervous when they are not around.
Wanders around the house during the night.
Last night, I ran her around the yard in the dark and she slept pretty much all night.
She was expecting the same thing tonight and I'm hoping she will sleep through the night again.
Tomorrow night she will be back home as power has been restored where they live.
Grandkids are asleep and their parents should be back from a wedding reception shortly.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

I tired out the dog this evening making her run after a stuffed toy and wrestling it away from her.

She’s probably having happy dreams about the “hunt” with her best friend.

tjc78

Gorgeous sunset at dinner last night.

explorerx4

Was able to reconnect the Ford Pass app today. Tried it yesterday but it took until this morning up reconnect.
Also, oil life was not reset. I went through the center screen options but couldn't find reset there.
Turns out it is done using the steering wheel controls. Pretty easy.

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

Gorgeous sunset at dinner last night.

That’s beautiful. Where is that?

oldfarmer50

Today I got busy and shampooed the seats in the truck. The previous owner was a smoker and I had to run the ozone machine 4 times to get that smell out. I figured the cloth seats held some secrets as well.

As I suspected, just a quick shampoo with hardly any scrubbing resulted in water that looked like a dredging from the Mississippi. The seats didn’t look that dirty before but I’m glad I got that nastiness out. I might give it another cleaning in the future.

tjc78

oldfarmer50 said:

tjc78 said:

Gorgeous sunset at dinner last night.

That’s beautiful. Where is that?

It’s a restaurant called Beach Creek in Wildwood NJ. 5 min walk from my house.

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

tjc78 said:

Gorgeous sunset at dinner last night.

That’s beautiful. Where is that?

It’s a restaurant called Beach Creek in Wildwood NJ. 5 min walk from my house.

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Looks just like the sunset I see from my deck when I squirt real hard.

jmonroe

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

tjc78 said:

Gorgeous sunset at dinner last night.

That’s beautiful. Where is that?

It’s a restaurant called Beach Creek in Wildwood NJ. 5 min walk from my house.

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Looks just like the sunset I see from my deck when I squirt real hard.

jmonroe

Squirt or squint?

explorerx4

The grandkids are back home now that power is back on.
The older one, soon to be 5, called and asked if they could come back over.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

tjc78 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

tjc78 said:

Gorgeous sunset at dinner last night.

That’s beautiful. Where is that?

It’s a restaurant called Beach Creek in Wildwood NJ. 5 min walk from my house.

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Looks just like the sunset I see from my deck when I squirt real hard.

jmonroe

Squirt or squint?

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Spell check got me again. However, when it’s raining I can get squirted too. Maybe that’s what spell check was thinking.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

explorerx4 said:

The grandkids are back home now that power is back on.
The older one, soon to be 5, called and asked if they could come back over.

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That sounds like you spoil them. When my grandkids were that age they were glad to leave.

jmonroe

mjfloyd1

@jmonroe1 said:
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Looks just like the sunset I see from my deck when I squirt real hard.

jmonroe

You peeing off the deck again?

jmonroe1

mjfloyd1 said:

@jmonroe1 said:

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Looks just like the sunset I see from my deck when I squirt real hard.

jmonroe

You peeing off the deck again?

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Only after a full sunset. Like when I can see the moon and the neighbors can’t see me.

jmonroe

qbrozen

It is smart to mark your territory

sda

I really like this feature not having to guess what tire may need air. The Q5 and VW rudely only display the low tire light.

imidazol97

sda said:

I really like this feature not having to guess what tire may need air. The Q5 and VW rudely only display the low tire light.

Agreed. My Malibu and Cruze both have digital readout. So did my 2008 Cobalt.
I guess the downside is that means there's a pressure sensor with a battery inside the
tire on the valve stem. That battery goes dead and tire places charge ridiculously high
to replace it.

I suspect the cars without a battery-powered transmitter use what my 2003 leSabre had. It monitors the wheel rotations rates and if one increases that means the pressure is lower in that tire. I believe it compared with the rotation speed of the other tire on that axle. Also the leSabre had 3 different speed ranges for the comparisons.

suydam

Both my vehicles have an app that shows all that stuff. It is nice.

tjc78

Ironically both my Volvos did not have individual tire readouts. I really missed that function.

Mercedes and my truck both have the proper readouts like above.

stickguy

I had the sensors replaced once a while back when I got new tires. It was pretty cheap since they were already in there. maybe $12 each? Low enough that I just went with it.

corvette

I think Discount Tire has charged about $65 when I've needed TPMS sensors replaced in the past. And they did a free relearn on my Prius when I'd had two sensors replaced and something decided to unpair and trigger the light a few months later.

roadburner

The C43 shows the pressure and temperature, the Wrangler shows the pressure; the X1 only indicates which tire is low.

explorerx4

My Ford app shows % of fuel left, individual tires pressures, oil life % and distance remaining, vehicle location, maintenance history, recalls, and CSP's.
I can also lock/unlock get directions, and remote start from the app.

ab348

imidazol97 said:

Agreed. My Malibu and Cruze both have digital readout. So did my 2008 Cobalt.
I guess the downside is that means there's a pressure sensor with a battery inside the
tire on the valve stem. That battery goes dead and tire places charge ridiculously high
to replace it.

If one goes due to old age and dead batteries, you might as well replace all 4. I got a set of original GM ones from Rock Auto for very short money. It's not much different for the tire shop than replacing a valve stem.

ab348

explorerx4 said:

My Ford app shows % of fuel left, individual tires pressures, oil life % and distance remaining, vehicle location, maintenance history, recalls, and CSP's.
I can also lock/unlock get directions, and remote start from the app.

That sort of thing is what some automakers are starting to charge for after a few years. I know Mazda has been getting heavily criticized for announcing that their Mazda Connect app will no longer be free to use after 3 years from new. If you don't pay, those services go away.

explorerx4

@ab348.
I view the app as a convenience, not a requirement.

roadburner

cdnpinhead

sda said:

I really like this feature not having to guess what tire may need air. The Q5 and VW rudely only display the low tire light.

I agree 100%.

The first time I had to deal with TPMS was with the TSX ('08), which shows the pressure for each wheel. Silly me, I thought that was how they all did it. When I came into possession of our Forester ('17) I was moderately stunned to learn that they had met the letter of the law (remember the Exploders & Firestone?) by coming up with a system that said: "you've got a low tire -- have a nice day." There are a lot of little things that I've become accustomed to over the past 16 years (holy s***) on the Acura, and this is one of them. If it got totaled tomorrow (assuming I didn't) I have no idea what I'd get to replace it.

tjc78

@roadburner said:

The Mercedes app is pretty comprehensive. IMO it is well done.

stickguy

I lost the ford pass app 2 months ago when I had the telematics module updated. Only discovered that yesterday. I really don’t use it.

tjc78

You pretty much need it for my wife’s car. It has the charging account.