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explorerx4

I remember when my next door neighbor had an S class he bought new. When it was 6 or 7 years old, the shock towers rusted out and the front suspension popped through the hood while his wife was driving it.

imidazol97

My shadetree neighbor has an E500 he bought a couple years back. He picks up cars and shines them and resells along with doing garage work; he got it cheap because it needed some work. Recently it still would drain the battery while sitting overnight. I told him it's spent more time connected to his roll-around battery jumper recharger than it's spent on the road. He took it to a different BM store for service a few months back. $2400 later he had new brakes but that wasn't what he took it in for--they never found the cause of the power drain. He got through to the manager and they had a C300 2016 loaner for about 3 weeks while the store tried to find the power drain. FAIL

BTW, the C300 drives nice but I wasn't overly impressed. My Malibu has a smoother stop/start system. The steering assist has a "rubber band" effect that I didn't like compared to the crisp steering of my Malibu. I'd have to have an E series to get a better ride. And in the '16 that data screen looked hideous. It looked like something a 3rd world car would have added to the dash layout.

Finally neighbor fixed the power drain himself.

imidazol97

oldfarmer50 said:

Boy, somebody spent time shining up that Lasabre. I still regret not being able to make the deal work on that low mile 2005 that I wanted for my son.



That picture layout is as close to perfect in design as it can be. It's got the bright flowers in the down 1/3, over 1/3 position from the upper left corner where the eye usually starts. The wet cement around the front wheel needs to be removed or he could have moved the car over a couple feet to hide the dark wet area. Beautiful detail job on the car.

The leSabres often with high miles are trading around here easily. Lots of them on the road that have been cleaned up and resold.

houdini1

I bet that wet spot under the tire is from the tire dressing. It tends to linger. Don't ask how I know.

ab348

houdini1 said:

I bet that wet spot under the tire is from the tire dressing. It tends to linger. Don't ask how I know.

Waiting for someone to disagree and say it was from the 3800 blowing a main seal...

suydam

driver100 said:

I probably see more 1999 Mercedes on the roads than Fords or Chevs (even though far fewer were sold). They may cost more to maintain, but overall cost of driving may be lower if you keep a quality built car running for 15 or 20 years........and you won't have a car that will feel like it is worse than being in prison.

You live in richer parts than I do.

henryn

suydam said:

driver100 said:

I probably see more 1999 Mercedes on the roads than Fords or Chevs (even though far fewer were sold). They may cost more to maintain, but overall cost of driving may be lower if you keep a quality built car running for 15 or 20 years........and you won't have a car that will feel like it is worse than being in prison.

You live in richer parts than I do.

If I admitted that I wouldn't be able to tell a 1999 Mercedes from a 1995 or a 2005, would that get me kicked off the board?

stever

@imidazol97, our Yooper friends drove down in her wife's "new" 2011 Impreza. His car back home is a 2000 Buick. Century I think he said. Only complaint is a leaky bit of window molding on the passenger's side.

suydam

You know what older car is popular around here? El Caminos. I must have seen a dozen different ones. Are they good work vehicles?

jmonroe

henryn said:

suydam said:

driver100 said:

I probably see more 1999 Mercedes on the roads than Fords or Chevs (even though far fewer were sold). They may cost more to maintain, but overall cost of driving may be lower if you keep a quality built car running for 15 or 20 years........and you won't have a car that will feel like it is worse than being in prison.

You live in richer parts than I do.

If I admitted that I wouldn't be able to tell a 1999 Mercedes from a 1995 or a 2005, would that get me kicked off the board?

Neither would I.

We can ride out of here on the same bus.

jmonroe

fintail

W211 E500 is one of those cars I wouldn't take for free. The early-mid 2000s were MBs dark ages,. Very few redeeming models from that era. Wonky electronics, sketchy rust prevention, 2003 models in particular seem to have weak transmissions, no thanks.

The tacked on screen IMO is what happens when an older designer wants to look hip to younger buyers. I can just see the discussion "young people like tablets! - let's put a tablet in our more entry level cars" (notice E and S don't have this design). It's received a lot of complaint, even from brand loyalists. It works ergonomically, but is poor aesthetically.

If you think MB stop-start is bad, try it on a 4cyl BMW.

imidazol97 said:

My shadetree neighbor has an E500 he bought a couple years back. He picks up cars and shines them and resells along with doing garage work; he got it cheap because it needed some work. Recently it still would drain the battery while sitting overnight. I told him it's spent more time connected to his roll-around battery jumper recharger than it's spent on the road. He took it to a different BM store for service a few months back. $2400 later he had new brakes but that wasn't what he took it in for--they never found the cause of the power drain. He got through to the manager and they had a C300 2016 loaner for about 3 weeks while the store tried to find the power drain. FAIL

BTW, the C300 drives nice but I wasn't overly impressed. My Malibu has a smoother stop/start system. The steering assist has a "rubber band" effect that I didn't like compared to the crisp steering of my Malibu. I'd have to have an E series to get a better ride. And in the '16 that data screen looked hideous. It looked like something a 3rd world car would have added to the dash layout.

Finally neighbor fixed the power drain himself.

fintail

They definitely age better too, as material quality is better. But they need to be taken care of. I think a lot of the 1999s on the road today were daddy's baby, and not a neglected ex-lease car that ended up on a BHPH lot 10 years ago and has had 5 owners since. These cars probably have a higher amount of careful owners than any other mass market brand. Even in these days of leasing, there a lot of traditionalists taking care of cars.

driver100 said:

I probably see more 1999 Mercedes on the roads than Fords or Chevs (even though far fewer were sold). They may cost more to maintain, but overall cost of driving may be lower if you keep a quality built car running for 15 or 20 years........and you won't have a car that will feel like it is worse than being in prison.

fintail

The current car might be a long termer, if it behaves. It'll be hard to let it go, as it is so unusual.

Leasing one of these cars might be a good way to get in long term. You can discover issues, and either walk away no strings, or keep the car if it gives you good vibes.

nyccarguy said:

@ab348 - "250,000 miles in a Yaris is more like a prison sentence." That is without question your best line ever!

@fintail - you got the right idea by renting my friend.

nyccarguy

fintail said:

The current car might be a long termer, if it behaves. It'll be hard to let it go, as it is so unusual.

Leasing one of these cars might be a good way to get in long term. You can discover issues, and either walk away no strings, or keep the car if it gives you good vibes.

nyccarguy said:

@ab348 - "250,000 miles in a Yaris is more like a prison sentence." That is without question your best line ever!

@fintail - you got the right idea by renting my friend.

I wasn't talking about your car. I was talking about your house.

fintail

Oh. I call leasing a car a fancy rental, too

But yeah, in my area, normal working single people of my age demographic can't afford a detached house without substantial familial aid, and condos here seem to be an especially poor value (unless you like questionable build quality and HOAs enough to lease a nice car). I have no regrets.

nyccarguy said:

fintail said:

The current car might be a long termer, if it behaves. It'll be hard to let it go, as it is so unusual.

Leasing one of these cars might be a good way to get in long term. You can discover issues, and either walk away no strings, or keep the car if it gives you good vibes.

nyccarguy said:

@ab348 - "250,000 miles in a Yaris is more like a prison sentence." That is without question your best line ever!

@fintail - you got the right idea by renting my friend.

I wasn't talking about your car. I was talking about your house.

snakeweasel

graphicguy said:

stever said:

nyccarguy said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

roadburner said:

jmonroe said:

stickguy said:

driver, thanks to you, I am putting the C class (your style) back up on my list for next year. By next November, 2014s should be getting pretty cheap (relatively). Out of warranty though, which is an issue.

Oh boy, the joys of owning a German car out of warranty.

jmonroe

Really? So far this year I have spent a whopping $114/month on non-warranty maintenance and repairs for the four BMWs I own.

Yes really. I know you like and will defend BMW's till your death and there are always exceptions but I like the odds of not owning one out of warranty.

If I want a car out of warranty I'd much rather have a Honda, Toyota and maybe even a Hyundai product and the stats back me up on that. I know German cars are getting better and have made strides moving up the reliability charts more than the other brands I just mentioned. The German brands could not have moved down too much. It would be almost impossible for Honda and Toyota products to move up the reliability charts as much as the German cars have.

The bad thing about being at the top is that there is only one way to go and so far that has not been too much of a problem for the brands I've mentioned.

This reminds of the days when I was in school and got an occasional 'A'. As much as I tried, I could never do better than that. Now, getting my favorite grade of a 'B', I knew there was room to improve and sometimes I could pull it off.

jmonroe

Here are the top 10 cars that will get you to 250000 miles. There are a few I would consider, if reliability was the main reason for buying a car.......but, since we only get one trip through this life as far as I have been able to figure out.....I want to (excuse the pun) enjoy the ride.
TOP 10 CARS THAT WILL GO 250000 MILES

The only one on that list that surprised me is the Chevrolet Avalanche. How the hell did that happen? That almost makes me question the credibility of that Forbes listing.

jmonroe

I've actually seen a few of these Avalanches with WELL OVER 250,000 miles. They just keep going. Indestructible.

My nephew sold his Avalanche last spring. He loved it - perfect for his kayaking and camping, but lots of electrical stuff kept breaking and when the transmission went he dumped it for $500.

Pretty sure he was pushing 300,000 miles on his.

The guy who had me as the best man at his wedding lo those many years ago swears by Chevy Avalanches (and is excited about the fact they're going to be produced again). He's had 3 of them....all stone reliable. He used the daylights out of them, too.

Separate topic...been watching the Blues Brothers on TV tonight. Ain't nothing better!

Well let's get it back on topic, just how many cars were destroyed in "The Blue Brothers"?

snakeweasel

driver100 said:

I probably see more 1999 Mercedes on the roads than Fords or Chevs (even though far fewer were sold). They may cost more to maintain, but overall cost of driving may be lower if you keep a quality built car running for 15 or 20 years........and you won't have a car that will feel like it is worse than being in prison.

I would say around here seeing a 20th century Benz on the road is a rarity. I see more big three pick up trucks more than anything else that old.

Mr_Shiftright

driver100 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

No studs in Illinois---yeah, I knew that

Is that why you don't live in Illinois?

I'm not a stud right now, but wait til I finish my Triumph motorcycle.

I don't live in Illinois because it hasn't had an ocean for quite some time. Can you surf in Lake Michigan?

fintail

Glad I am in the PNW, where old cars just keep going. 20th century cars are still everywhere here. Barely a day goes by where I don't see an 80s MB still on the road.

stever

Yes, but the waves are better on Superior.

The Cruze we've borrowed. Our friend mentioned that she had a slow leak (not to keep repeating myself but Michigan rims do that). She was gripping about having to buy air a week or so ago.

So I went out and checked the pressures this morning. The label on the door pillar says every tire takes 35 psi.

Her tires were at 32, 36, 40 and 54 (I guess she got her money's worth out of the $1.50 air last week).

berri

Superior can be a very rough great lake, that's for sure. Storms can bring whitecaps to Lake Michigan and waves hitting Lake Shore Drive, but when that happens I don't think the spacing is favorable for surfing. It is also more prevalent in cooler weather.

Mr_Shiftright

"Her tires were at 32, 36, 40 and 54 (I guess she got her money's worth out of the $1.50 air last week)."

Close enough!

jmonroe

stever said:

Yes, but the waves are better on Superior.

The Cruze we've borrowed. Our friend mentioned that she had a slow leak (not to keep repeating myself but Michigan rims do that). She was gripping about having to buy air a week or so ago.

So I went out and checked the pressures this morning. The label on the door pillar says every tire takes 35 psi.

Her tires were at 32, 36, 40 and 54 (I guess she got her money's worth out of the $1.50 air last week).

It sounds like you should make her a "tire pressure transfer hose". Don't laugh, I worked with a real character back in the early 80's who made one and it worked. I saw him demonstrate it one day at lunch. It's very simple to make. Just need an air source, like an extra spare tire in the trunk and his late 70's Buick had room for it.

FWIW, if her car had a TPMS, those tire pressure variances should have lit off the light.

jmonroe

snakeweasel

stever said:

Yes, but the waves are better on Superior.

Yeah but that water is really cold, even in the summer.

oldfarmer50

ab348 said:

houdini1 said:

I bet that wet spot under the tire is from the tire dressing. It tends to linger. Don't ask how I know.

Waiting for someone to disagree and say it was from the 3800 blowing a main seal...

That seem to be a Chevy trademark. The 4.3L van I bought from grandma is in the shop right now to get the main seals redone. I'm lucky a mechanic at work has started his retirement shop business a little early and the labor intensive job is booking at 1/2 to 1/3 of the normal shop rate. Also nice that all our mini buses are based off the Chevy Express. He knows the beast.

I've owned a couple of 3.8L cars and never had a seal leak.

snakeweasel

berri said:

Superior can be a very rough great lake, that's for sure. Storms can bring whitecaps to Lake Michigan and waves hitting Lake Shore Drive, but when that happens I don't think the spacing is favorable for surfing. It is also more prevalent in cooler weather.

Any of those Great Lakes can turn real rough real fast. When I was in the Coast Guard my first duty station was a small boat station doing search and rescue on one of the Great Lakes and I can tell you when those lakes go rouge you don't want to be on them.

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

graphicguy said:

stever said:

nyccarguy said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

roadburner said:

stickguy said:

driver, thanks to you, I am putting the C class (your style) back up on my list for next year. By next November, 2014s should be getting pretty cheap (relatively). Out of warranty though, which is an issue.

Oh boy, the joys of owning a German car out of warranty.

jmonroe

Really? So far this year I have spent a whopping $114/month on non-warranty maintenance and repairs for the four BMWs I own.

Yes really. I know you like and will defend BMW's till your death and there are always exceptions but I like the odds of not owning one out of warranty.

If I want a car out of warranty I'd much rather have a Honda, Toyota and maybe even a Hyundai product and the stats back me up on that. I know German cars are getting better and have made strides moving up the reliability charts more than the other brands I just mentioned. The German brands could not have moved down too much. It would be almost impossible for Honda and Toyota products to move up the reliability charts as much as the German cars have.

The bad thing about being at the top is that there is only one way to go and so far that has not been too much of a problem for the brands I've mentioned.

This reminds of the days when I was in school and got an occasional 'A'. As much as I tried, I could never do better than that. Now, getting my favorite grade of a 'B', I knew there was room to improve and sometimes I could pull it off.

jmonroe

Here are the top 10 cars that will get you to 250000 miles. There are a few I would consider, if reliability was the main reason for buying a car.......but, since we only get one trip through this life as far as I have been able to figure out.....I want to (excuse the pun) enjoy the ride.
TOP 10 CARS THAT WILL GO 250000 MILES

The only one on that list that surprised me is the Chevrolet Avalanche. How the hell did that happen? That almost makes me question the credibility of that Forbes listing.

jmonroe

I've actually seen a few of these Avalanches with WELL OVER 250,000 miles. They just keep going. Indestructible.

My nephew sold his Avalanche last spring. He loved it - perfect for his kayaking and camping, but lots of electrical stuff kept breaking and when the transmission went he dumped it for $500.

Pretty sure he was pushing 300,000 miles on his.

The guy who had me as the best man at his wedding lo those many years ago swears by Chevy Avalanches (and is excited about the fact they're going to be produced again). He's had 3 of them....all stone reliable. He used the daylights out of them, too.

Separate topic...been watching the Blues Brothers on TV tonight. Ain't nothing better!

Well let's get it back on topic, just how many cars were destroyed in "The Blue Brothers"?

I heard they totaled 40 cop car alone.

stickguy

Mr_Shiftright said:

"Her tires were at 32, 36, 40 and 54 (I guess she got her money's worth out of the $1.50 air last week)."

Close enough!

if you average it out, comes out to 40.5 per tire, so that is within my acceptable range.

that is how it works, right?

Mr_Shiftright

I'd inflate them all to 54 psi. That way there's a reserve

houdini1

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

houdini1 said:

I bet that wet spot under the tire is from the tire dressing. It tends to linger. Don't ask how I know.

Waiting for someone to disagree and say it was from the 3800 blowing a main seal...

That seem to be a Chevy trademark. The 4.3L van I bought from grandma is in the shop right now to get the main seals redone. I'm lucky a mechanic at work has started his retirement shop business a little early and the labor intensive job is booking at 1/2 to 1/3 of the normal shop rate. Also nice that all our mini buses are based off the Chevy Express. He knows the beast.

I've owned a couple of 3.8L cars and never had a seal leak.

So, that wily 'ol grandma knew what she was doing after all !

explorerx4

@Mr_Shiftright,
54 lbs in each tire, are you a fan of Wayne R Geddes?

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

snakeweasel said:

graphicguy said:

stever said:

nyccarguy said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

roadburner said:

stickguy said:

driver, thanks to you, I am putting the C class (your style) back up on my list for next year. By next November, 2014s should be getting pretty cheap (relatively). Out of warranty though, which is an issue.

Oh boy, the joys of owning a German car out of warranty.

jmonroe

Really? So far this year I have spent a whopping $114/month on non-warranty maintenance and repairs for the four BMWs I own.

Yes really. I know you like and will defend BMW's till your death and there are always exceptions but I like the odds of not owning one out of warranty.

If I want a car out of warranty I'd much rather have a Honda, Toyota and maybe even a Hyundai product and the stats back me up on that. I know German cars are getting better and have made strides moving up the reliability charts more than the other brands I just mentioned. The German brands could not have moved down too much. It would be almost impossible for Honda and Toyota products to move up the reliability charts as much as the German cars have.

The bad thing about being at the top is that there is only one way to go and so far that has not been too much of a problem for the brands I've mentioned.

This reminds of the days when I was in school and got an occasional 'A'. As much as I tried, I could never do better than that. Now, getting my favorite grade of a 'B', I knew there was room to improve and sometimes I could pull it off.

jmonroe

Here are the top 10 cars that will get you to 250000 miles. There are a few I would consider, if reliability was the main reason for buying a car.......but, since we only get one trip through this life as far as I have been able to figure out.....I want to (excuse the pun) enjoy the ride.
TOP 10 CARS THAT WILL GO 250000 MILES

The only one on that list that surprised me is the Chevrolet Avalanche. How the hell did that happen? That almost makes me question the credibility of that Forbes listing.

jmonroe

I've actually seen a few of these Avalanches with WELL OVER 250,000 miles. They just keep going. Indestructible.

My nephew sold his Avalanche last spring. He loved it - perfect for his kayaking and camping, but lots of electrical stuff kept breaking and when the transmission went he dumped it for $500.

Pretty sure he was pushing 300,000 miles on his.

The guy who had me as the best man at his wedding lo those many years ago swears by Chevy Avalanches (and is excited about the fact they're going to be produced again). He's had 3 of them....all stone reliable. He used the daylights out of them, too.

Separate topic...been watching the Blues Brothers on TV tonight. Ain't nothing better!

Well let's get it back on topic, just how many cars were destroyed in "The Blue Brothers"?

I heard they totaled 40 cop car alone.



I heard 70 police cars, 1 Bluesmobile, 1 RV and an unknown number of cars when they dropped that [non-permissible content removed] car.

fintail

Also the LTD wagon driven by [non-permissible content removed] into the hole left by the falling Pinto, and I think Carrie Fisher's Grand Prix was pretty messed up too.

snakeweasel said:

I heard 70 police cars, 1 Bluesmobile, 1 RV and an unknown number of cars when they dropped that [non-permissible content removed] car.

oldfarmer50

houdini1 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

ab348 said:

houdini1 said:

I bet that wet spot under the tire is from the tire dressing. It tends to linger. Don't ask how I know.

Waiting for someone to disagree and say it was from the 3800 blowing a main seal...

That seem to be a Chevy trademark. The 4.3L van I bought from grandma is in the shop right now to get the main seals redone. I'm lucky a mechanic at work has started his retirement shop business a little early and the labor intensive job is booking at 1/2 to 1/3 of the normal shop rate. Also nice that all our mini buses are based off the Chevy Express. He knows the beast.

I've owned a couple of 3.8L cars and never had a seal leak.

So, that wily 'ol grandma knew what she was doing after all !

Yep, grandma took me to school on that one. Broke my own 1st rule in used car buying "never trust anybody".

stever

>FWIW, if her car had a TPMS, those tire pressure variances should have lit off the light.

@jmonroe, the TPMS idiot light was coming on when you first turned on the ignition, but the light would go off when you cranked the car. Beats me....

Our Yooper friends currently visiting town keep a boat at a slip in Green Bay. Makes me queasy just to think about it. Yoopers are a bit nuts, I could barely wade in Superior, much less surf in it sans wetsuit. (uppermichiganssource.com)

oldfarmer50

Really annoying..

For the second time I accidentally hit the Toyota ad while scrolling. It engages a pop up which freezes my screen. I have to shut the computer off before I can clear the darn thing. Edmunds should tell their advertizers that antagonizing potential customers is not a good way to sell cars.

js06gv

graphicguy said:

stever said:

nyccarguy said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

roadburner said:

jmonroe said:

stickguy said:

driver, thanks to you, I am putting the C class (your style) back up on my list for next year. By next November, 2014s should be getting pretty cheap (relatively). Out of warranty though, which is an issue.

Oh boy, the joys of owning a German car out of warranty.

jmonroe

Really? So far this year I have spent a whopping $114/month on non-warranty maintenance and repairs for the four BMWs I own.

Yes really. I know you like and will defend BMW's till your death and there are always exceptions but I like the odds of not owning one out of warranty.

If I want a car out of warranty I'd much rather have a Honda, Toyota and maybe even a Hyundai product and the stats back me up on that. I know German cars are getting better and have made strides moving up the reliability charts more than the other brands I just mentioned. The German brands could not have moved down too much. It would be almost impossible for Honda and Toyota products to move up the reliability charts as much as the German cars have.

The bad thing about being at the top is that there is only one way to go and so far that has not been too much of a problem for the brands I've mentioned.

This reminds of the days when I was in school and got an occasional 'A'. As much as I tried, I could never do better than that. Now, getting my favorite grade of a 'B', I knew there was room to improve and sometimes I could pull it off.

jmonroe

Here are the top 10 cars that will get you to 250000 miles. There are a few I would consider, if reliability was the main reason for buying a car.......but, since we only get one trip through this life as far as I have been able to figure out.....I want to (excuse the pun) enjoy the ride.
TOP 10 CARS THAT WILL GO 250000 MILES

The only one on that list that surprised me is the Chevrolet Avalanche. How the hell did that happen? That almost makes me question the credibility of that Forbes listing.

jmonroe

I've actually seen a few of these Avalanches with WELL OVER 250,000 miles. They just keep going. Indestructible.

My nephew sold his Avalanche last spring. He loved it - perfect for his kayaking and camping, but lots of electrical stuff kept breaking and when the transmission went he dumped it for $500.

Pretty sure he was pushing 300,000 miles on his.

The guy who had me as the best man at his wedding lo those many years ago swears by Chevy Avalanches (and is excited about the fact they're going to be produced again). He's had 3 of them....all stone reliable. He used the daylights out of them, too.

Separate topic...been watching the Blues Brothers on TV tonight. Ain't nothing better!

graphicguy said:

stever said:

nyccarguy said:

jmonroe said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe said:

roadburner said:

jmonroe said:

stickguy said:

driver, thanks to you, I am putting the C class (your style) back up on my list for next year. By next November, 2014s should be getting pretty cheap (relatively). Out of warranty though, which is an issue.

Oh boy, the joys of owning a German car out of warranty.

jmonroe

Really? So far this year I have spent a whopping $114/month on non-warranty maintenance and repairs for the four BMWs I own.

Yes really. I know you like and will defend BMW's till your death and there are always exceptions but I like the odds of not owning one out of warranty.

If I want a car out of warranty I'd much rather have a Honda, Toyota and maybe even a Hyundai product and the stats back me up on that. I know German cars are getting better and have made strides moving up the reliability charts more than the other brands I just mentioned. The German brands could not have moved down too much. It would be almost impossible for Honda and Toyota products to move up the reliability charts as much as the German cars have.

The bad thing about being at the top is that there is only one way to go and so far that has not been too much of a problem for the brands I've mentioned.

This reminds of the days when I was in school and got an occasional 'A'. As much as I tried, I could never do better than that. Now, getting my favorite grade of a 'B', I knew there was room to improve and sometimes I could pull it off.

jmonroe

Here are the top 10 cars that will get you to 250000 miles. There are a few I would consider, if reliability was the main reason for buying a car.......but, since we only get one trip through this life as far as I have been able to figure out.....I want to (excuse the pun) enjoy the ride.
TOP 10 CARS THAT WILL GO 250000 MILES

The only one on that list that surprised me is the Chevrolet Avalanche. How the hell did that happen? That almost makes me question the credibility of that Forbes listing.

jmonroe

I've actually seen a few of these Avalanches with WELL OVER 250,000 miles. They just keep going. Indestructible.

My nephew sold his Avalanche last spring. He loved it - perfect for his kayaking and camping, but lots of electrical stuff kept breaking and when the transmission went he dumped it for $500.

Pretty sure he was pushing 300,000 miles on his.

The guy who had me as the best man at his wedding lo those many years ago swears by Chevy Avalanches (and is excited about the fact they're going to be produced again). He's had 3 of them....all stone reliable. He used the daylights out of them, too.

Separate topic...been watching the Blues Brothers on TV tonight. Ain't nothing better!

Where do you get that Avalanches will be produced again? That would be news to me, although very good news as my '05 was one of the best vehicles I've ever owned. I'd be pretty excited about an Av that was updated to something beyond 2007 standards (my main motivation for defecting over to Ford in '13)

houdini1

oldfarmer50 said:

Really annoying..

For the second time I accidentally hit the Toyota ad while scrolling. It engages a pop up which freezes my screen. I have to shut the computer off before I can clear the darn thing. Edmunds should tell their advertizers that antagonizing potential customers is not a good way to sell cars.

Ad blocker is your friend !

Mr_Shiftright

explorerx4 said:

@Mr_Shiftright,
54 lbs in each tire, are you a fan of Wayne R Geddes?

Who dat?

driver100

imidazol97 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Boy, somebody spent time shining up that Lasabre. I still regret not being able to make the deal work on that low mile 2005 that I wanted for my son.



That picture layout is as close to perfect in design as it can be. It's got the bright flowers in the down 1/3, over 1/3 position from the upper left corner where the eye usually starts. The wet cement around the front wheel needs to be removed or he could have moved the car over a couple feet to hide the dark wet area. Beautiful detail job on the car.

The leSabres often with high miles are trading around here easily. Lots of them on the road that have been cleaned up and resold.

The car looks great....we just need a picture of you in it with a horizontal striped shirt.

explorerx4

Wayne is a pretty well know hyper miler. He likes to run high air pressures in his tires.

Mr_Shiftright

OK, got it. I'm the opposite. I may be the only person to get under 20 mpg in a Mini Cooper. I have calmed down, though. I'm up to 24.

oldfarmer50

Mr_Shiftright said:

OK, got it. I'm the opposite. I may be the only person to get under 20 mpg in a Mini Cooper. I have calmed down, though. I'm up to 24.

I'm ashamed to admit that I average that on the Mustang.

jmonroe

@stever said:

@jmonroe, the TPMS idiot light was coming on when you first turned on the ignition, but the light would go off when you cranked the car. Beats me....

Must be German electricals.

jmonroe

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

OK, got it. I'm the opposite. I may be the only person to get under 20 mpg in a Mini Cooper. I have calmed down, though. I'm up to 24.

I'm ashamed to admit that I average that on the Mustang.

I got that and more in the E400, and I almost never have auto off/on working.

driver100

fintail said:

Glad I am in the PNW, where old cars just keep going. 20th century cars are still everywhere here. Barely a day goes by where I don't see an 80s MB still on the road.

I see 80s and 90s Mercedes a lot in Florida. They last, and a lot of retired people who don't want to trade in their cars. Often when I see an old one in great shape I think the owner was probably a real estate agent or something, and that he bought it his last good year in the business before retiring.

imidazol97

driver100 said:

The car looks great....we just need a picture of you in it with a horizontal striped shirt.

I don't do horizontal stripes. Plaid flannel shirts are more my style.

jmonroe

imidazol97 said:

driver100 said:

The car looks great....we just need a picture of you in it with a horizontal striped shirt.

I don't do horizontal stripes. Plaid flannel shirts are more my style.

OK, we'll take that.

I need a new laugh after seeing @driver100 in his horizontal stripes trying to hide behind his CPO C 250 that he paid 200 bucks to much for.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

OK, got it. I'm the opposite. I may be the only person to get under 20 mpg in a Mini Cooper. I have calmed down, though. I'm up to 24.

I'm ashamed to admit that I average that on the Mustang.

I got that and more in the E400, and I almost never have auto off/on working.

You misunderstand, I'm not bragging, I'm confessing.

jipster

Format is all messed up again. On the cabin air filters, my Mercury Mariner previously belonged to my mother in law, who had chronic c.o.p.d. She passed away over a year ago. Can't help but think that a cabin air filter would have helped her. Always seemed after long trips her condition would be worse. Of course it could have been because the trip itself was exhausting. There is a checklist at the Ford dealership,where I took her car for oil changes, they marked it was checked.It never was. So southernmost items are checked.