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jmonroe

oldfarmer50 said:

OK I'll take a flyer here.

I'm thinking on making some mild modifications on the Mustang and one is a new cat back exhaust to improve on the too quiet stock system.

Don't have any idea which of the dozens available to choose. All I know is I want a bit more rumble without it drowning out the radio.

Any suggestions?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/2015-mustang-catback-exhaust.html#shop-by1

I can't help you but I like the idea of owning a "sleeper".

I told the tale a few months ago about someone that wanted to test Mrs. j's Legacy 6 cyl. at a light. He was blown away long before the next light so I backed off.

Someone asked what would have happened if I was in my Genny. That would have been an insult I wouldn't have even tried wasting my time doing. I don't know what that dopes HP was but if a Subie embarrassed him a 420 HP wannabe would have sent him home crying to mama.

Stay cool and quiet.

jmonroe

explorerx4

Thanks Ab348, someone got it!

driver100

explorerx4 said:

Thanks Ab348, someone got it!

I may be too trusting but I didn't question that.....I think it is possible. After we bought the manual A4 I started to think, what would I do if I broke an arm or a leg? When you get a little older limbs can be damaged or break. I love a manual, but, I think unless I really fell in love with one, I would just go with an automatic these days, and broken limbs or getting a knee replacement are a few of the reasons.

He probably thinks the car is still worth what he paid for it.......the reality is it is a nice looking 3 or 4 year old car......and it isn't a classic yet.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

Thanks Ab348, someone got it!

Oh so you suspect deception. Well if you don't believe him you should ask to see his "scares".

https://albany.craigslist.org/cto/6083679770.html

oldfarmer50

jmonroe said:

oldfarmer50 said:

OK I'll take a flyer here.

I'm thinking on making some mild modifications on the Mustang and one is a new cat back exhaust to improve on the too quiet stock system.

Don't have any idea which of the dozens available to choose. All I know is I want a bit more rumble without it drowning out the radio.

Any suggestions?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/2015-mustang-catback-exhaust.html#shop-by1

I can't help you but I like the idea of owning a "sleeper".

I told the tale a few months ago about someone that wanted to test Mrs. j's Legacy 6 cyl. at a light. He was blown away long before the next light so I backed off.

Someone asked what would have happened if I was in my Genny. That would have been an insult I wouldn't have even tried wasting my time doing. I don't know what that dopes HP was but if a Subie embarrassed him a 420 HP wannabe would have sent him home crying to mama.

Stay cool and quiet.

jmonroe

Hard to have a sleeper Mustang unless I shave all the badges off. I'm not looking to boost performance just to make it sound less like a grocery getter.

roadburner

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

This is a new one for me.
https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/6094171295.html

Can't tell if that's a premium or base trim but either way that's overpriced for the last generation. He want's retail sticker for what a 2015 cost new. A few nice options like the colored dash lights but still.

No Brembos or Track Pack either. Meh.

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:

Thanks Ab348, someone got it!

I may be too trusting but I didn't question that.....I think it is possible. After we bought the manual A4 I started to think, what would I do if I broke an arm or a leg? When you get a little older limbs can be damaged or break. I love a manual, but, I think unless I really fell in love with one, I would just go with an automatic these days, and broken limbs or getting a knee replacement are a few of the reasons.

He probably thinks the car is still worth what he paid for it.......the reality is it is a nice looking 3 or 4 year old car......and it isn't a classic yet.

A lot of owners of pampered cars think their baby is worth more than the national debt. I've been day dreaming about convertibles and was shocked to see what local owners are asking. Granted this is the start of the "hot" season for verts but they want way over what any book says they're worth.

I always thought that a smart move would to be to go to Florida now and buy a convertible in that state's off season--heat of summer.

isellhondas

Marcothecarguy1986 said:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UVUHn-MbdiA

Really? Why? Makes no sense to me anyway!

roadburner

abacomike said:

Just look online and search for "inadvertent trunk opening" and you'll find lots of examples.  I read the service bulletin and just about every BMW model was listed as having that potential problem - so why the funny look from the service writer?

Just like I said, it's a dealer issue; when I had the client with the Wi-Fi hotspot issue I made sure that the Service Advisor knew exactly what the problem was as well as what steps we had taken to correct the problem. The SA in turn evaluated the diagnostics and escalated the issue up the chain of command and received authorization to replace the telematics module. The car was out of service 5 days, but the client had full use of a BMW loaner for the entire time.
Good SAs(and Geniuses) keep abreast of SIBs as they are sent out- ESPECIALLY the ones that affect multiple platforms.

oldfarmer50

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

This is a new one for me.
https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/6094171295.html

Can't tell if that's a premium or base trim but either way that's overpriced for the last generation. He want's retail sticker for what a 2015 cost new. A few nice options like the colored dash lights but still.

No Brembos or Track Pack either. Meh.

Are those Recardo seats?

cdnpinhead

roadburner said:

Good SAs(and Geniuses) keep abreast of SIBs . . .

I am perfectly willing to pay top dollar for competent service.

When I was first making a living by driving a Kenworth with a 350 Cummins, I didn't like oil leaks. I'd enjoyed my MGB's leaks about all I could stand and was very pleased with the 240Z that replaced it and was dry as a bone. So, even though the 44 quart oil capacity of the 855 CID engine wasn't in any kind of danger from the small puddles on the ground, they bugged me. So, off to the local KW shop I went.

I described the issue, and a mechanic was assigned to the job. I went off to the side (he did the work outside) and sat down to watch. The guy jacked the cab all the way up and was careful to look to see that nothing in the sleeper or anywhere else was going to fall down and break the windshield, then he tied it off so it would stay put while he did his thing. He carefully examined the front of the engine, the source of the leak, then walked over to his tool chest. He took out six tools and walked back to my truck. In the next hour or so he completely disassembled the front end of my engine and never walked back to get another tool. He knew exactly what he was doing.

Turned out the front cover was cracked, and it would have cost over a thousand dollars (back when that was real money) to replace, so I opted out. It still cost over a hundred dollars to have him figure out what was wrong (this was 1978), and I paid it gladly. Went back a couple of months later to have my exhaust lowered and get the fifth wheel secured better. I trusted them. They did good work. They were taking care of my means of support, and they did it in an excellent fashion.

I find it very difficult to find shops like that any more. The feasibility studies (let's try this shop -- whoops, that didn't work out) can be very disheartening.

roadburner

oldfarmer50 said:

OK I'll take a flyer here.

I'm thinking on making some mild modifications on the Mustang and one is a new cat back exhaust to improve on the too quiet stock system.

Don't have any idea which of the dozens available to choose. All I know is I want a bit more rumble without it drowning out the radio.

Any suggestions?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/2015-mustang-catback-exhaust.html#shop-by1

Just from a fitment issue, I'd probably go with one of the Ford Performance exhausts. That said, you really need to hear the exhausts if possible. It's a very subjective issue.

Michaell

isellhondas said:

Marcothecarguy1986 said:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UVUHn-MbdiA

Really? Why? Makes no sense to me anyway!

Not everybody needs, or wants, a three row SUV. Ford has the Edge, Nissan the Murano.

I'm sure there are lots of folks who would like something larger than the CR-V, but without the third row.

qbrozen

explorerx4 said:

This is a new one for me.
https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/6094171295.html

Gee, let's see...$40k claimed MSRP. I got about $10k off the new 2014 GT I bought, which would have put this at $30k. They don't depreciate too bad, so let's say $2k/yr, which brings us to $24k.

Just looked it up. I'm assuming premium based on the claimed MSRP. Even with the low miles, its $24k trade. So $26k private party. 

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

explorerx4 said:

Thanks Ab348, someone got it!

I may be too trusting but I didn't question that.....I think it is possible. After we bought the manual A4 I started to think, what would I do if I broke an arm or a leg? When you get a little older limbs can be damaged or break. I love a manual, but, I think unless I really fell in love with one, I would just go with an automatic these days, and broken limbs or getting a knee replacement are a few of the reasons.

He probably thinks the car is still worth what he paid for it.......the reality is it is a nice looking 3 or 4 year old car......and it isn't a classic yet.

cdnpinhead said:

roadburner said:

Good SAs(and Geniuses) keep abreast of SIBs . . .

I am perfectly willing to pay top dollar for competent service.

When I was first making a living by driving a Kenworth with a 350 Cummins, I didn't like oil leaks. I'd enjoyed my MGB's leaks about all I could stand and was very pleased with the 240Z that replaced it and was dry as a bone. So, even though the 44 quart oil capacity of the 855 CID engine wasn't in any kind of danger from the small puddles on the ground, they bugged me. So, off to the local KW shop I went.

I described the issue, and a mechanic was assigned to the job. I went off to the side (he did the work outside) and sat down to watch. The guy jacked the cab all the way up and was careful to look to see that nothing in the sleeper or anywhere else was going to fall down and break the windshield, then he tied it off so it would stay put while he did his thing. He carefully examined the front of the engine, the source of the leak, then walked over to his tool chest. He took out six tools and walked back to my truck. In the next hour or so he completely disassembled the front end of my engine and never walked back to get another tool. He knew exactly what he was doing.

Turned out the front cover was cracked, and it would have cost over a thousand dollars (back when that was real money) to replace, so I opted out. It still cost over a hundred dollars to have him figure out what was wrong (this was 1978), and I paid it gladly. Went back a couple of months later to have my exhaust lowered and get the fifth wheel secured better. I trusted them. They did good work. They were taking care of my means of support, and they did it in an excellent fashion.

I find it very difficult to find shops like that any more. The feasibility studies (let's try this shop -- whoops, that didn't work out) can be very disheartening.

That sounds like my indie shop. My family is now on it's 3rd generation with them.

imidazol97

oldfarmer50 said:

Every so often I get an offer to visit the dealership for some reason: a new model, half price on an oil change, and now, an offer to attend a rescue pet adoption event being held at the store.

Automated emails. You have to call the store IF there's no unsubscribe method cited at the bottom per federal law.

oldfarmer50

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

OK I'll take a flyer here.

I'm thinking on making some mild modifications on the Mustang and one is a new cat back exhaust to improve on the too quiet stock system.

Don't have any idea which of the dozens available to choose. All I know is I want a bit more rumble without it drowning out the radio.

Any suggestions?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/2015-mustang-catback-exhaust.html#shop-by1

Just from a fitment issue, I'd probably go with one of the Ford Performance exhausts. That said, you really need to hear the exhausts if possible. It's a very subjective issue.

Well, according to the listings, they're all direct replacements for stock. My only concern is that the Ford Performance system is a 2.5" pipe straight to the muffler whereas these systems are 3".

Not sure if that would cause back pressure issues. With today's computer tunes something small could screw things up.

Sound is certainly subjective. Tough to judge even when they provide an audio.

I might bite the bullet and go with the Ford system even though it's twice as expensive as some of the aftermarket ones.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

OK I'll take a flyer here.

I'm thinking on making some mild modifications on the Mustang and one is a new cat back exhaust to improve on the too quiet stock system.

Don't have any idea which of the dozens available to choose. All I know is I want a bit more rumble without it drowning out the radio.

Any suggestions?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/2015-mustang-catback-exhaust.html#shop-by1

Just from a fitment issue, I'd probably go with one of the Ford Performance exhausts. That said, you really need to hear the exhausts if possible. It's a very subjective issue.

Sound is certainly subjective. Tough to judge even when they provide an audio.

I might bite the bullet and go with the Ford system even though it's twice as expensive as some of the aftermarket ones.

Ever consider a screwdriver? For a few bucks I could put a few holes in your present muffler....might just sound like an Alfa when I get finished.

iluvmysephia1

https://youtu.be/_CYEv97QEvw
Good review of the new 2018 Kia Rio. This car, in 6-speed base form, does indeed check all the right boxes for me.

iluvmysephia1

https://youtu.be/_CYEv97QEvw
Good review of the new 2018 Kia Rio. This car, in 6-speed base form, does indeed check all the right boxes for me.

What's more, it has Android Auto. Nice! Thing is, my 2011 Kia Soul is just an older, boxier version. The '18 Rio would out-handle the base Kia Soul on Missouri's roller-coaster Ozark roads.

Or would it?

graphicguy

Speaking of the Mercedes red....I test drove this one when I was still car shopping.....

http://www.mbcincy.com/inventory/new-2016-mercedes-benz-c-class-c300-4matic-sedan-4matic-sedan-55swf4kb6gu143009

Pretty car. Could have bought it for just under my self imposed $40K price limit.

The one I really wanted was this one, however.....

http://www.mbcincy.com/inventory/new-2016-mercedes-benz-c-class-c300-4matic-sport-sedan-4matic-sedan-55swf4kb6gu128932

It was just over my self imposed $40K price limit. I put in my "one price" offer (just under $40K) and they let me walk. We were a couple of thousand apart. So, fairly big delta.

Both of those cars are still there. Gonna be tough to move them now, given they're coming up on 2 model years old. And, they're "new".

I drove to the Infiniti dealer right up the road and test drove the Q50 that I now drive. Pleased as can be.

fintail

I've never understood why some dealers play hardball with pricing on leftover cars. They must get compensation from the maker - it seems similar cars at my local dealership end up in the loaner fleet. Maybe that's the strategy - loaner it, then CPO it, and it will be more attractive vs a sparsely optioned car.

Nav really needs to be standard on those cars, too.

graphicguy

fintail said:

I've never understood why some dealers play hardball with pricing on leftover cars. They must get compensation from the maker - it seems similar cars at my local dealership end up in the loaner fleet. Maybe that's the strategy - loaner it, then CPO it, and it will be more attractive vs a sparsely optioned car.

Nav really needs to be standard on those cars, too.

Fin...you may be right. Maybe the idea that Nav wasn't on them was a deal breaker.

Personally, at the time I was shopping, both of those C Class were aged inventory. Both had less than 200 miles on them, the grey one had like 60 miles on it. So, little more than test drive miles.

Not sure how Mercedes corporate deals with leftovers. Apparently, not enough to move those two units as they've been sitting there for a while.

I agree that at the price point, Nav should have been standard. In fairness, the sales person told me they could install an SD card to turn on some Nav functionality. But, I don't know how well that integrates with voice commands or the commands available on MB Command Nav. And, they would charge me for the SD Map card and install (how tough could that install be?).

oldfarmer50

driver100 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

OK I'll take a flyer here.

I'm thinking on making some mild modifications on the Mustang and one is a new cat back exhaust to improve on the too quiet stock system.

Don't have any idea which of the dozens available to choose. All I know is I want a bit more rumble without it drowning out the radio.

Any suggestions?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/2015-mustang-catback-exhaust.html#shop-by1

Just from a fitment issue, I'd probably go with one of the Ford Performance exhausts. That said, you really need to hear the exhausts if possible. It's a very subjective issue.

Sound is certainly subjective. Tough to judge even when they provide an audio.

I might bite the bullet and go with the Ford system even though it's twice as expensive as some of the aftermarket ones.

Ever consider a screwdriver? For a few bucks I could put a few holes in your present muffler....might just sound like an Alfa when I get finished.

While I'm at it I could hack some holes in the fenders and make it look like a Buick.

ab348

Don't need to cut the fenders for that.

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Universal-Fender-Vents-Holes/dp/B008G353MI

Look charp!

imidazol97

I saw ventiports on a car on carrier going up the mountain on I75 north of Knoxville last month. I was inspecting the 1968 RS Camaro, blue with black strips on trunk and then noticed the car in front of it on the carrier had ports. Buick?

Creamy color. Darker tan cloth top. Convertible. Sleek shape like a Solara. And said Pinan Farina on the bottom of the front fender. I realized it was not a Buick by that time.

I can't find a picture of a car of similar color using google.

driver100

ab348 said:

Don't need to cut the fenders for that.

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Universal-Fender-Vents-Holes/dp/B008G353MI

Look charp!

Just what the world needs....Buick ventiorts on a Mustang....to jazz it up a bit

breld

fintail said:

I've never understood why some dealers play hardball with pricing on leftover cars. They must get compensation from the maker - it seems similar cars at my local dealership end up in the loaner fleet. Maybe that's the strategy - loaner it, then CPO it, and it will be more attractive vs a sparsely optioned car.

Nav really needs to be standard on those cars, too.

When I was taking delivery of my used Durango from the local Mercedes shop, they had a nice C-class in the showroom advertising $12k off. It was a 2015 model. How does that even happen?

breld

iluvmysephia1 said:

https://youtu.be/_CYEv97QEvw
Good review of the new 2018 Kia Rio. This car, in 6-speed base form, does indeed check all the right boxes for me.

What's more, it has Android Auto. Nice! Thing is, my 2011 Kia Soul is just an older, boxier version. The '18 Rio would out-handle the base Kia Soul on Missouri's roller-coaster Ozark roads.

Or would it?

I like that tons better than the other choices you've been entertaining (Versa, iA, etc.).

jmonroe

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

OK I'll take a flyer here.

I'm thinking on making some mild modifications on the Mustang and one is a new cat back exhaust to improve on the too quiet stock system.

Don't have any idea which of the dozens available to choose. All I know is I want a bit more rumble without it drowning out the radio.

Any suggestions?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/2015-mustang-catback-exhaust.html#shop-by1

Just from a fitment issue, I'd probably go with one of the Ford Performance exhausts. That said, you really need to hear the exhausts if possible. It's a very subjective issue.

Well, according to the listings, they're all direct replacements for stock. My only concern is that the Ford Performance system is a 2.5" pipe straight to the muffler whereas these systems are 3".

Not sure if that would cause back pressure issues. With today's computer tunes something small could screw things up.

Sound is certainly subjective. Tough to judge even when they provide an audio.

I might bite the bullet and go with the Ford system even though it's twice as expensive as some of the aftermarket ones.

It would cost twice less if you left it alone.

You bought a tame "grocery getter" so live with it.

jmonroe

isellhondas

Michaell said:

isellhondas said:

Marcothecarguy1986 said:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UVUHn-MbdiA

Really? Why? Makes no sense to me anyway!

Not everybody needs, or wants, a three row SUV. Ford has the Edge, Nissan the Murano.

I'm sure there are lots of folks who would like something larger than the CR-V, but without the third row.

If you park a new CRV alongside a new Pilot, the Pilot isn't that much bigger, really. The CRV doesn't have a third row seat, If they do decide to do this, I predict it'll be a flop, Honda has had flops in the past and this would be another one. but...what do I know? They weren't a company to ask my opinion, Has they asked me about making a Civic Mugen or a Accord sedan with a V-6 Six speed I could have saved them some money!

tjc78

I think they are basically copying Hyundai with their Sante Fe "Sport" and regular Santa Fe.

@oldfarmer50
Go on You Tube and search Mustang exhaust. You'll hear plenty of clips from people showing what systems they have installed. I've heard Magnaflows on a Stang and they sound pretty good.

oldfarmer50

jmonroe said:

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

OK I'll take a flyer here.

I'm thinking on making some mild modifications on the Mustang and one is a new cat back exhaust to improve on the too quiet stock system.

Don't have any idea which of the dozens available to choose. All I know is I want a bit more rumble without it drowning out the radio.

Any suggestions?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/2015-mustang-catback-exhaust.html#shop-by1

Just from a fitment issue, I'd probably go with one of the Ford Performance exhausts. That said, you really need to hear the exhausts if possible. It's a very subjective issue.

Well, according to the listings, they're all direct replacements for stock. My only concern is that the Ford Performance system is a 2.5" pipe straight to the muffler whereas these systems are 3".

Not sure if that would cause back pressure issues. With today's computer tunes something small could screw things up.

Sound is certainly subjective. Tough to judge even when they provide an audio.

I might bite the bullet and go with the Ford system even though it's twice as expensive as some of the aftermarket ones.

It would cost twice less if you left it alone.

You bought a tame "grocery getter" so live with it.

jmonroe

You just don't want me getting all the chicks.

oldfarmer50

breld said:

fintail said:

I've never understood why some dealers play hardball with pricing on leftover cars. They must get compensation from the maker - it seems similar cars at my local dealership end up in the loaner fleet. Maybe that's the strategy - loaner it, then CPO it, and it will be more attractive vs a sparsely optioned car.

Nav really needs to be standard on those cars, too.

When I was taking delivery of my used Durango from the local Mercedes shop, they had a nice C-class in the showroom advertising $12k off. It was a 2015 model. How does that even happen?

How indeed.

I've been following this 2015 for a few years at my local dealer. My informants tell me it has around 6000 miles and was used by a few sales managers. It must have gold bars in the trunk.

http://www.lathamfordmotors.com/wholesale-new/Ford/2015-Ford-Mustang-744ebc910a0a00654f919aa347bf6110.htm?searchDepth=3:3

Oh yeah, last year they were offering it for $36K. Edmunds say it's worth $30k as a CPO. Only $8k too much.

andres3

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

OK I'll take a flyer here.

I'm thinking on making some mild modifications on the Mustang and one is a new cat back exhaust to improve on the too quiet stock system.

Don't have any idea which of the dozens available to choose. All I know is I want a bit more rumble without it drowning out the radio.

Any suggestions?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/2015-mustang-catback-exhaust.html#shop-by1

Just from a fitment issue, I'd probably go with one of the Ford Performance exhausts. That said, you really need to hear the exhausts if possible. It's a very subjective issue.

Well, according to the listings, they're all direct replacements for stock. My only concern is that the Ford Performance system is a 2.5" pipe straight to the muffler whereas these systems are 3".

Not sure if that would cause back pressure issues. With today's computer tunes something small could screw things up.

Sound is certainly subjective. Tough to judge even when they provide an audio.

I might bite the bullet and go with the Ford system even though it's twice as expensive as some of the aftermarket ones.

Are there any Mustang enthusiast clubs or organizations in your area? If so, check out one of their events, you are bound to run into (and hear) a few aftermarket exhaust systems and will be able to ask them about it.

Also, if you can find the most popular/best Mustang "Go Fast" mod shop, they will make good recommendations.

Mr_Shiftright

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

This is a new one for me.
https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/6094171295.html

Can't tell if that's a premium or base trim but either way that's overpriced for the last generation. He want's retail sticker for what a 2015 cost new. A few nice options like the colored dash lights but still.

Well he's exercising his First Amendment Rights in that ad, that's about it. At least it was his left leg and not his right one.

Mr_Shiftright

driver100 said:

ab348 said:

Don't need to cut the fenders for that.

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Universal-Fender-Vents-Holes/dp/B008G353MI

Look charp!

Just what the world needs....Buick ventiorts on a Mustang....to jazz it up a bit

I think those would look pretty darn sharp on my garden wagon. It's called a "gorilla cart" and it even has inflated tires and a dump feature. Needs a styling uptick though.

imidazol97

driver100 said:

Just what the world needs....Buick ventiorts on a Mustang....to jazz it up a bit

A touch of class. Like the Maserati I saw.

andres3

Mr_Shiftright said:

oldfarmer50 said:

explorerx4 said:

This is a new one for me.
https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/6094171295.html

Can't tell if that's a premium or base trim but either way that's overpriced for the last generation. He want's retail sticker for what a 2015 cost new. A few nice options like the colored dash lights but still.

Well he's exercising his First Amendment Rights in that ad, that's about it. At least it was his left leg and not his right one.

He can skip the advanced driver's left-foot braking seminar portion of his race training. At my next HPDE I want to start learning to use my left foot, not for a clutch, but for braking.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50 said:

jmonroe said:

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

OK I'll take a flyer here.

I'm thinking on making some mild modifications on the Mustang and one is a new cat back exhaust to improve on the too quiet stock system.

Don't have any idea which of the dozens available to choose. All I know is I want a bit more rumble without it drowning out the radio.

Any suggestions?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/2015-mustang-catback-exhaust.html#shop-by1

Just from a fitment issue, I'd probably go with one of the Ford Performance exhausts. That said, you really need to hear the exhausts if possible. It's a very subjective issue.

Well, according to the listings, they're all direct replacements for stock. My only concern is that the Ford Performance system is a 2.5" pipe straight to the muffler whereas these systems are 3".

Not sure if that would cause back pressure issues. With today's computer tunes something small could screw things up.

Sound is certainly subjective. Tough to judge even when they provide an audio.

I might bite the bullet and go with the Ford system even though it's twice as expensive as some of the aftermarket ones.

It would cost twice less if you left it alone.

You bought a tame "grocery getter" so live with it.

jmonroe

You just don't want me getting all the chicks.

You might be right.

A hay burner will collect them faster than a wannabe. :@

jmonroe

abacomike

Just got back from picking up my car from the dealership's service department. They replaced the left motor of the tailgate lift mechanism as well as the left driver's side rearview mirror due to a defective heating element in the mirror which prevented the mirror from defogging. My service advisor told me to continue to be very observant of the trunk lid - it is quite possible that replacing that motor and the mechanism will not solve the problem with the trunk lid opening by itself. They decided not to download the new software which would require me to unlock the car before I was able to remotely open the trunk. So, I will look out for any more inadvertent trunk openings for the next couple of weeks to make sure this solved the problem - or if it does open, I will have to take the car back.

After driving the X5 for 3 days and then getting into my "yacht" and driving home, it was like I died and went to heaven. It is truly amazing how well that 740i handles and rides on the interstates and the turnpike. I averaged 38.2 mpg for the 30 mile trip - 99% turnpike and interstates. Ahhh, to be back in my "honey" once again.

I just don't understand how I can average that kind of fuel economy in such a big car. EPA estimates are 20/29 city/highway - but I am getting 23-24 city and 38-42 mpg's on the highway, depending on speed. At 65 mph, I average 38+ mpg's; at 60 mph, I average 42+ mpg's; over 65 mph, I average 34-35 mpg. I'm actually driving a fuel efficient monster - how or why, I have no idea, but when I fill up with fuel and figure out mpg's manually, it is dead on the computer output.

I almost had a car story after stopping into the showroom to say hello to the GM of the dealership, but luckily the car we talked about did not have a power rear sun screen or side rear door sun screens. I'll leave it at that - I sure hope they don't call me and tell me that they got what I wanted in stock - God forbid!!!!

abacomike

Just got some good news (for a change)! Got a call from a specialty pharmacy in Miami that distributes specialty drugs that are not usually handled by Walgreens or other local pharmacies. My health insurance company approved a 3 month's supply of a new anti-viral medication for Hepatitis C called EPCLUSA. It's made by the same company that produces Harvoni which I took 18 months ago and did not work on me.

Another piece of the good news is that a Foundation that assists people with serious diseases is going to assist in helping to pay my copay for this drug. The drug itself costs over $23,000 a month - the copay is over $4000. Delivery of this medication is scheduled for this coming Friday afternoon. Now, I pray that this drug is successful in eliminating this terminal disease from my body, once and for all. It works by stopping the virus from reproducing. The disease is what caused the 4 cancerous tumors from growing and spreading in my liver. I have to take blood tests every 4 weeks (22+ vials of blood) to measure the viral count - which usually is "undetectable" after just a few weeks. The problem I've had is that after I stop taking these drugs, the virus begins to multiply again.

I just hope everything goes OK - there are lots of side effects of these drugs - I get tired easily and very weak and lots of headaches. Need to stay very hydrated - like carry bottles of water with me everywhere I go. Boy, if this works on me, it will stop the growth of these carcinomas. They can't operate on me again - if cancer grows back (which is common) they would have to go in and burn the cancer out with microwaves.

One step at a time - and lots of prayers. Thanks guys for allowing me to vent a little.

driver100

jmonroe said:

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

OK I'll take a flyer here.

I'm thinking on making some mild modifications on the Mustang and one is a new cat back exhaust to improve on the too quiet stock system.

Don't have any idea which of the dozens available to choose. All I know is I want a bit more rumble without it drowning out the radio.

Any suggestions?

http://www.americanmuscle.com/2015-mustang-catback-exhaust.html#shop-by1

Just from a fitment issue, I'd probably go with one of the Ford Performance exhausts. That said, you really need to hear the exhausts if possible. It's a very subjective issue.

Well, according to the listings, they're all direct replacements for stock. My only concern is that the Ford Performance system is a 2.5" pipe straight to the muffler whereas these systems are 3".

Not sure if that would cause back pressure issues. With today's computer tunes something small could screw things up.

Sound is certainly subjective. Tough to judge even when they provide an audio.

I might bite the bullet and go with the Ford system even though it's twice as expensive as some of the aftermarket ones.

It would cost twice less if you left it alone.

You bought a tame "grocery getter" so live with it.

jmonroe

I hate to admit it but I actually do agree with JMonroe this time.

It is like asking for trouble.....if you have to buy a phony exhaust sound something is wrong....you either have to live with it of buy something else.

driver100

oldfarmer50 said:

breld said:

fintail said:

I've never understood why some dealers play hardball with pricing on leftover cars. They must get compensation from the maker - it seems similar cars at my local dealership end up in the loaner fleet. Maybe that's the strategy - loaner it, then CPO it, and it will be more attractive vs a sparsely optioned car.

Nav really needs to be standard on those cars, too.

When I was taking delivery of my used Durango from the local Mercedes shop, they had a nice C-class in the showroom advertising $12k off. It was a 2015 model. How does that even happen?

How indeed.

I've been following this 2015 for a few years at my local dealer. My informants tell me it has around 6000 miles and was used by a few sales managers. It must have gold bars in the trunk.

http://www.lathamfordmotors.com/wholesale-new/Ford/2015-Ford-Mustang-744ebc910a0a00654f919aa347bf6110.htm?searchDepth=3:3

Oh yeah, last year they were offering it for $36K. Edmunds say it's worth $30k as a CPO. Only $8k too much.

That is crazy.....10% off a 2 year old car....almost 3 years old.

You should email them and ask them if they will give you 90% of the purchase price of your car as a trade in.

I like that Mustang though....triple yellow paint!

driver100

Mike, Glad to hear you got your car back and you love it again. Don't even think of looking at another car, You need to join a CBA Group in your area.......Car Buyers Anonymous...you can go to meetings and phone another member if you get the urge to buy another car.

ab348

Mr_Shiftright said:

Could be worth it. Market says around $17-20K, but I'd add a bit for 4-speed.

That award is Class 34a, so just 65-66 Mustangs in a local event. The owner certainly seems to have taken the time to get details right, however.

Unfortunate color IMHO. That was one year only, and was probably not popular. Seems a shame to repaint it though.

Given the junk I see in old car at that price point, I'd say it would be well bought at $20K but not much more.

SOLD! SOLD! SOLD!


$36, 250.

roadburner

driver100 said:

It is like asking for trouble.....if you have to buy a phony exhaust sound something is wrong....you either have to live with it of buy something else.

It's not a "phony" exhaust sound; some cars are fitted with overly quiet mufflers in order to satisfy the mass marker poseurs. Most manufacturers with a performance model in their lineup offer one or more "performance" catback exhaust options- either from the factory, port installed, or as an accessory. Some actually do increase power, but usually only by a negligible amount. That said, BMW's M Performance Power and Sound kit for the B58 motor boosts horsepower by 35hp over stock and torque by 39 lb-ft over stock- but the kit includes a tune as well. BMW makes an M Performance exhaust for my car but claims no power gain, so I'd rather use my car accessory fund to actually increase performance- which is why I'm saving up for an M Performance Limited Slip Differential.

dino001

Just booked my travel to Munich for the ED (late part of June). The plane ticket pricing is crazy - $1600-2000 for a coach ticket, $2500 for premium economy. Munich flights are outrageously expensive in coach in comparison to say Frankfurt (by 20-30 percent!). Premium Economy does not see such disparity for some reason, though. It is my prefer class with European carriers across the Pond - around half price of the business class, give or take, the seat is effectively 3" wider (1" between the armrest supports, but those also significantly wider than in coach), generally one less seat abreast than coach, around 5" more legroom, better seat good recline, larger screen, more attentive service as you are served before rest of the coach, some extras, like liquor, small amenity kit, etc. Not quite a full sleeper, like business, but a large step over coach, IMHO worth the premium charged, in proportion to what you get in coach. United and Delta offer those half-a** "economy plus" seating, which is same as economy, just a little more legroom. Same service, too. And they want 150-200 bucks extra each way for it, which is too high in terms of value vs. Euro carriers premium economy (which is actually often more money, but way much better product).

Here is the kick - Expedia offers huge discount on a bundle with hotel, even for partial stay (3 days), to the point that total (flight plus 3 nights) was lower than the ticket alone! That's really nuts - great deal. I wish I knew that earlier, I probably would have saved some money on my previous vacations. I thought you had to get the hotel for the full stay, which didn't work for me (usually fly to some place and then travel around with car). But they have this partial stay deals now. After three days, I'll take off to the rest. Most likely, Switzerland, southern France, and northern Italy. My plans changed just a little from previous - I originally thought I'd finish in Paris, but this is going to be a better deal.

jmonroe

abacomike said:

Just got some good news (for a change)! Got a call from a specialty pharmacy in Miami that distributes specialty drugs that are not usually handled by Walgreens or other local pharmacies. My health insurance company approved a 3 month's supply of a new anti-viral medication for Hepatitis C called EPCLUSA. It's made by the same company that produces Harvoni which I took 18 months ago and did not work on me.

Another piece of the good news is that a Foundation that assists people with serious diseases is going to assist in helping to pay my copay for this drug. The drug itself costs over $23,000 a month - the copay is over $4000. Delivery of this medication is scheduled for this coming Friday afternoon. Now, I pray that this drug is successful in eliminating this terminal disease from my body, once and for all. It works by stopping the virus from reproducing. The disease is what caused the 4 cancerous tumors from growing and spreading in my liver. I have to take blood tests every 4 weeks (22+ vials of blood) to measure the viral count - which usually is "undetectable" after just a few weeks. The problem I've had is that after I stop taking these drugs, the virus begins to multiply again.

I just hope everything goes OK - there are lots of side effects of these drugs - I get tired easily and very weak and lots of headaches. Need to stay very hydrated - like carry bottles of water with me everywhere I go. Boy, if this works on me, it will stop the growth of these carcinomas. They can't operate on me again - if cancer grows back (which is common) they would have to go in and burn the cancer out with microwaves.

One step at a time - and lots of prayers. Thanks guys for allowing me to vent a little.

I hope this new potion works for you.

I just went online and looked up this drugs side effects. You missed one...they are not sure how this happens but men lose their urge to buy new cars. Can you live with this side effect ?

jmonroe

abacomike

jmonroe said:

Just got some good news (for a change)! Got a call from a specialty pharmacy in Miami that distributes specialty drugs that are not usually handled by Walgreens or other local pharmacies. My health insurance company approved a 3 month's supply of a new anti-viral medication for Hepatitis C called EPCLUSA. It's made by the same company that produces Harvoni which I took 18 months ago and did not work on me.

Another piece of the good news is that a Foundation that assists people with serious diseases is going to assist in helping to pay my copay for this drug. The drug itself costs over $23,000 a month - the copay is over $4000. Delivery of this medication is scheduled for this coming Friday afternoon. Now, I pray that this drug is successful in eliminating this terminal disease from my body, once and for all. It works by stopping the virus from reproducing. The disease is what caused the 4 cancerous tumors from growing and spreading in my liver. I have to take blood tests every 4 weeks (22+ vials of blood) to measure the viral count - which usually is "undetectable" after just a few weeks. The problem I've had is that after I stop taking these drugs, the virus begins to multiply again.

I just hope everything goes OK - there are lots of side effects of these drugs - I get tired easily and very weak and lots of headaches. Need to stay very hydrated - like carry bottles of water with me everywhere I go. Boy, if this works on me, it will stop the growth of these carcinomas. They can't operate on me again - if cancer grows back (which is common) they would have to go in and burn the cancer out with microwaves.

One step at a time - and lots of prayers. Thanks guys for allowing me to vent a little.

I hope this new potion works for you.

I just went online and looked up this drugs side effects. You missed one...they are not sure how this happens but men lose their urge to buy new cars. Can you live with this side effect ?

jmonroe

I could live with that - but I might die from apoplexy!