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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,357
    maybe my standards are too low, but IMO once you are down into the low to mid 6 range 0-60, and certainly dropping into the 5's, the car is seriously fast and anything more is just semantics.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331
    driver100 said:

    qbrozen said:

    Fezo - good to hear from you.

    driver - don't count on that HDMI cable. There really is a difference. My newest TV does not like old cables. They don't have to necessarily be expensive, but they do have to be recent (there have been different versions of HDMI) and not bottom of the barrel. The TV would flash off and on occassionally. Took me quite a while and a bunch of moving stuff around to finally find out it was the cables. Upgraded them to decent ones off Amazon and have no problems since. I think they are the more recent HDMI 2.0. 

    There's an interesting discussion on 4K HDMI here.

    You could be absolutely right RB, all I know is what I can find out, and this is what I learned:

    But is there really a difference between expensive HDMI cables and budget offerings? We asked an expert to find out.

    “In terms of picture quality there’s no difference,”
    explains Jeff Park, Senior Technical Manager for HDMI Licensing, LLC. “It’s digital, so it’s all or nothing.”

    So the short answer is no. If you think a more expensive cable is going to deliver a better picture, then you’re mistaken.

    “Whether you have a $100 cable or a $5 cable, if they meet the same specification requirements there should be no difference,” says Jeff. “From a technical point of view they are exactly the same.”

    FULL ARTICLE


    I know this article was written in 2012, so Premium could make a difference. For my needs, I doubt the extra clarity or whatever will make enough difference to justify the cost.

    Your article doesn't contradict the BJC information in the slightest; in the first place, that article is aimed at the companies like AudioQuest and Monster that make unscientific claims about the alleged superiority of their $100 and up cables. Contrast those claims with this summary from BJC:

    HDMI Licensing is not in the business of selling expensive cable -- it doesn't sell any cable at all -- and HDMI Licensing gets the same royalty on an HDMI cable whether you spend a dollar or ten thousand dollars on that cable. The Premium Cable Program is not the invention of slick cable sellers. It's the creation of the people responsible for ensuring compliance with the HDMI specification, and it's there to address a legitimate set of problems -- both in terms of testing and in terms of product authentication -- that consumers of HDMI products face.

    Note the key phrase in your article; " if they meet the same specification requirements there should be no difference" What specifications do $4 Dollar General HDMI cables meet? None, I'd wager. A 3 foot BJC Premium HDMI Cable costs a paltry $15; I'll gladly pay $11 more and be confident that the cable and terminations are high quality and are able to meet the highest current standards.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    edited June 2017
    I picked up an Amazon Basics cable when I needed one. Pricing on some lengths is deceptive because certain offerings are in pairs. They mention the ability to meet certain test requirements.

    I had bought something else that was an actual Amazon product named Amazon Basics and found it was high quality as well. It even has gold-plated connectors!

    https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-High-Speed-HDMI-Cable-Standard/dp/B014I8SSD0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496577163&sr=8-1&keywords=hdmi+cable+basic

    "... the AmazonBasics High-Speed HDMI Cable with Ethernet meets the latest standards, which means it considerably expands bandwidth up to 18 Gbps, offers 4K@50/60 (2160p) video resolution (four times more clarity than 1080p/60), and supports the wide-angle theatrical 21:9 video aspect ratio.

    "The cable also offers dynamic synchronization of video and audio stream: it can deliver two video streams (dual view) simultaneously and up to four audio streams simultaneously. Even more, the HDMI cable supports up to 32 audio channels and up to 1536 kHz total audio.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593
    It means much more to you RB than it does to me. My $4 HDMI cable is working fine......I can't imagine the $30 cable from Best Buy would make a difference. Some people find a Timex is sufficient for their needs (I have one I use for sports - velcro band), some people prefer to read the time on a Rolex.

    I am sure the $15 cable is made to a higher standard, may not tarnish or fray as easily, but, for my purposes I am completely satisfied with the $4 Dollar store cable.

    When I read what BJC says, it sounds like they are charging extra because they have higher standards and do more testing - no problem, but is the end result that much different? I have talked to a guy here who started a very successful chain of coffee shops (The Second Cup - NOT Tim Hortons), and his policy was he used the same coffee beans as everyone else, he just charges more and people think it is a premium coffee - and, they pay it!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593
    stickguy said:

    maybe my standards are too low, but IMO once you are down into the low to mid 6 range 0-60, and certainly dropping into the 5's, the car is seriously fast and anything more is just semantics.

    +1

    I always say the more horses the better.....but, there is a limit as to what you can use, around 6 seconds + or - is about it.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    driver100 said:

    ... his policy was he used the same coffee beans as everyone else, he just charges more and people think it is a premium coffee - and, they pay it!

    Spot on. When there's ego involved, people can be convinced a certain product, a car for example, is much better than another by advertising it in certain ways. Coffee, cars, hair products, and so on. I watch HSN and QVC occasionally just to watch how they pitch the product to make certain demographics believe it's something they need or it is much better for them. Even the way they sell flower plants is aimed at the ego. "It's better than that other product over there behind the tree."

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593



    I had bought something else that was an actual Amazon product named Amazon Basics and found it was high quality as well. It even has gold-plated connectors!

    It is funny, but my $4 HDMI cable has nice gold connectors.......probably plastic gold, but, they sure do look good. My cable probably wasn't tested over and over again, it was probably made in some sweat shop in Indonesia, they didn't use best quality wire or plastic cover......but, it works!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    edited June 2017
    I mentioned selling people the idea they need something. I just turned on HSN and HSN has two guys try to sell people on the idea they "need" an HP Sprocket Printer. It's the size of a cell phone but thicker--looks to be almost an inch. Apparently inside are small rectangles of photo paper. So now you can print a photo, small, from your cell phone picture via blue tooth. I can only imagine how much HP charges for the paper AND the ink cartridges for that small printer. Does it use ink? 10 sheets of sticky-back paper for $14 approx.


    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,205
    edited June 2017
    stickguy said:

    maybe my standards are too low, but IMO once you are down into the low to mid 6 range 0-60, and certainly dropping into the 5's, the car is seriously fast and anything more is just semantics.

    Yeah but having a car that can break 5 seconds will restore your manhood and grow new hair. Suprised you didn't know that.

    You must be new to this board B)

    Speaking of manhood, my buddy at work with the 2012 Mustang lit up his tires at my urging yesterday. Very impressive. Scared a few onlookers.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,357
    well, I still have a full head of hair. So no worries there.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    edited June 2017

    Speaking of manhood, my buddy at work with the 2012 Mustang lit up his tires at my urging yesterday. Very impressive. Scared a few onlookers.

    I thought of OldFarmer and his Mustang at a local large car show. I took this for him.
    The story about his friend telling the horse to giddy up GO reminded me to post pic.
    Vanity license plate idea...






    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331

    driver100 said:

    It means much more to you RB than it does to me. My $4 HDMI cable is working fine......I can't imagine the $30 cable from Best Buy would make a difference. Some people find a Timex is sufficient for their needs (I have one I use for sports - velcro band), some people prefer to read the time on a Rolex.

    I am sure the $15 cable is made to a higher standard, may not tarnish or fray as easily, but, for my purposes I am completely satisfied with the $4 Dollar store cable.

    When I read what BJC says, it sounds like they are charging extra because they have higher standards and do more testing - no problem, but is the end result that much different? I have talked to a guy here who started a very successful chain of coffee shops (The Second Cup - NOT Tim Hortons), and his policy was he used the same coffee beans as everyone else, he just charges more and people think it is a premium coffee - and, they pay it!


    You are probably not interested in 4K UHD HDR video in a HTS but I am. And to me it's not worth saving a whopping $11 and using a cable constructed from the finest Chinesium. 

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331


    maybe my standards are too low, but IMO once you are down into the low to mid 6 range 0-60, and certainly dropping into the 5's, the car is seriously fast and anything more is just semantics.


    Yeah but having a car that can break 5 seconds will restore your manhood and grow new hair. Suprised you didn't know that.

    You must be new to this board B)

    Speaking of manhood, my buddy at work with the 2012 Mustang lit up his tires at my urging yesterday. Very impressive. Scared a few onlookers.



    I can't imagine ever buying another "fun" DD that runs the quarter in more than 13 seconds or so. Not every car in the stable has to be that fast- but at least one sled needs ample power. 

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    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,205
    edited June 2017

    Speaking of manhood, my buddy at work with the 2012 Mustang lit up his tires at my urging yesterday. Very impressive. Scared a few onlookers.

    I thought of OldFarmer and his Mustang at a local large car show. I took this for him.
    The story about his friend telling the horse to giddy up GO reminded me to post pic.
    Vanity license plate idea...






    That's funny. On the way out of church this morning my wife spotted a F-150 Ecoboost with a plate that said: DUM GOOD. We had quite a discussion on what that meant.

    Now, couple questions for the experts.

    Was watching a car restoration show and while doing a custom paint job they took a spray bottle and sprayed water on the freshly painted hood. Then they painted over the water droplets for some kind of effect. They said it made the paint always look like it had beaded up water. Why?

    Also in another segment they installed lowering springs for handling. Got me wondering if you could achieve the same result by installing lower profile tires. Both mods would lower the car.

    Any opinions?



    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,121
    edited June 2017
    OK....y'all probably could have predicted this, but I'm actually considering the '18 TLX A-Spec. Just looked at my email this a.m. and had a note from the SM of my Acura dealership. Understand, I've played golf with him (charity outings) and known him through the business I've done with the dealership for 15+ years, we're casual acquaintances, along with my sales guy (who I've known even longer).

    It read, in part...

    "Hey (GG)...heard you stopped by to take a look at the 2018 TLX A-Spec we just received. (Sales person) said you were just kicking tires. I appreciate that. But, if you like the car I hope you know I'll do whatever we can to put you in the first one sold by the dealership (as I write this, in the entire state of OHIO).


    We're proud of the new TLX, and particularly the A-Spec you drove. (Salesperson) told me you have a 2016 Infiniti Q50 that you've only had a few months. While I don't know if you have a loan on it, or want to trade it, we'd be very interested in it as it's the kind of car I'd love to have on our used lot. I do know you keep your cars pristine. I'll make a strong trade offer if you're interested.

    (Salesperson) also told me what you were thinking as an offer. That's probably a little short of what we'd want for such a new model, but if you're ready to buy right now, I value your business, I can make that deal.

    Call me on my (cell number) and let me know what I can do to earn your business."

    Talk me off the ledge.

    I'm trying to justify this. Did a little sniffing around.

    My Infinit dealership has 3 used Q50s like mine. All have an asking price of around $40K. I figure they have about $34K-$35K in them, maybe? They'd cut theses loose around $37.5K-$38K.

    http://www.infinitiofcincinnati.com/VehicleSearchResults?search=used&make=INFINITI&model=Q50&bodyType=ALL&trim=&series=&minYear=&maxYear=&minPrice=&maxPrice=&vehicleType=

    I paid $37K and change for it. So, essentially I would have "rented" the 2016 Q50 for about $1,000/mo, if they make a trade offer around $34K.

    A-Spec SH AWD is about $45.8K. Doubt there's any unknown dealer cash I can count on. The delta between invoice and MSRP has traditionally been about $2K on Acura TLXs. If the SM sticks to his word, invoice is around $43.8K. No invoice numbers have been published yet. So, add $500 to invoice, I come up with $44.3K + tax/license (no doc fee would be offered).

    Am I serious?
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,576
    edited June 2017
    GG, another factor to consider is that you'd be moving up two model years, from a '16 to an '18.

    (Just trying to further sweeten the pot.)
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,121
    carnaught said:

    GG, another factor to consider is that you'd be moving up two model years, from a '16 to an '18.

    (Just trying to further sweeten the pot.)

    Enabler......but true!
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,827
    The Q50 was a stopgap for you, IMO, @graphicguy. If you can afford it and you want it, life is too short, I say go for it. 
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  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,576

    The Q50 was a stopgap for you, IMO, @graphicguy. If you can afford it and you want it, life is too short, I say go for it. 

    Ah yes, the "life is too short" mantra that we all use to justify our (unnecessary) purchases ;).
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,363
    edited June 2017
    @graphicguy - what are you really trading up to get with the Acura?

    AWD? Already got it
    More HP? Nope, as I understand it you'd be dropping a few ponies
    Better handling? Can't comment on that, but I suspect it would be a wash
    More tech? Again, don't know

    Is it worth $10k to make what seems like a lateral move?

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  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,576
    Michaell, come-on now, you're being sensible.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,357
    Yup. sounds like about $10K to move up 2 model years, and scratch an itch, while getting fundamentally the "same" car. 4 door, similar size, comparable performance. Just tweaking the little things that you might like better (stereo, seats, steering feel?)

    look at it another way. Is there anything that is a step up that you could potentially get instead (thinking CPO stuff here) that you would really think of as a step up? Maybe an Audi S4? S7? A Porsche Panamera? The hot rod lexus? I would suggest a CTS-V but you would probably smack me!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,357
    Michaell said:

    @graphicguy - what are you really trading up to get with the Acura?

    AWD? Already got it
    More HP? Nope, as I understand it you'd be dropping a few ponies
    Better handling? Can't comment on that, but I suspect it would be a wash
    More tech? Again, don't know

    Is it worth $10k to make what seems like a lateral move?

    another way to look at the money is it is like trading in the Infiniti and the Cobra to get the Acura!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593
    edited June 2017



    driver100 said:


    It means much more to you RB than it does to me. My $4 HDMI cable is working fine......I can't imagine the $30 cable from Best Buy would make a difference. Some people find a Timex is sufficient for their needs (I have one I use for sports - velcro band), some people prefer to read the time on a Rolex.



    I am sure the $15 cable is made to a higher standard, may not tarnish or fray as easily, but, for my purposes I am completely satisfied with the $4 Dollar store cable.



    When I read what BJC says, it sounds like they are charging extra because they have higher standards and do more testing - no problem, but is the end result that much different? I have talked to a guy here who started a very successful chain of coffee shops (The Second Cup - NOT Tim Hortons), and his policy was he used the same coffee beans as everyone else, he just charges more and people think it is a premium coffee - and, they pay it!


    You are probably not interested in 4K UHD HDR video in a HTS but I am. And to me it's not worth saving a whopping $11 and using a cable constructed from the finest Chinesium. 

    That is why they make it.....go for it!

    I don't mind spending $11 more if it made a difference in my life, but, nothing I read or saw convinces me the $11 will make a difference. Some people insist on buying Bayer Aspirin and are willing to pay because it is tested and monitored more....maybe, but regular A.S.A. tablets for half the price will do exactly the same thing.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593
    carnaught said:

    GG, another factor to consider is that you'd be moving up two model years, from a '16 to an '18.

    (Just trying to further sweeten the pot.)

    Excellent thought.

    And leasing for $1000 a month is a bit high.......but, not too bad. If you really, really want it GG, IMHO...Go For It!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593
    stickguy said:

    Michaell said:

    @graphicguy - what are you really trading up to get with the Acura?

    AWD? Already got it
    More HP? Nope, as I understand it you'd be dropping a few ponies
    Better handling? Can't comment on that, but I suspect it would be a wash
    More tech? Again, don't know

    Is it worth $10k to make what seems like a lateral move?

    another way to look at the money is it is like trading in the Infiniti and the Cobra to get the Acura!
    Now you are getting way too sensible!

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593
    I guess I have rethunk this a bit. If you really really want it, go for it BUT, as has been pointed out, since the car is so similar to what you have, will you become dissatisfied really soon, and think why did I do that....could have waited and really moved up.

    Then again, moving up two model years for $10k is pretty good depreciation level.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    carnaught said:

    Michaell, come-on now, you're being sensible.

    Hey! :p is he allowed to be sensible in this topic?
  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,576
    edited June 2017

    carnaught said:

    Michaell, come-on now, you're being sensible.

    Hey! :p is he allowed to be sensible in this topic?
    Well...on car enthusiast forums, no. That's what we're all about here. When we can't make our own unnecessary car move(s), we rely on others to do it vicariously for us.

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    edited June 2017
    From time ta time I get a little hankering for this little buzz-bomb.



    2014 Mazda 2

    Something just tells me we'd get along well! I prefer this red over the apple green that is often seen gracing these little pups.

    2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,827
    The only reason I think it makes any sense is because GG has always been partial to the Acura brand. He's had nothing but positive experiences and generally enjoys the product. Coming from the Cadillac escapade, I could see wanting to make your way back "home", if you will. 

    That said, I think one of us should snap up the Q50...that's a great ride, too, for the money. 
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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,121
    There is no rational reason to make the deal. I'll say that right up front. On paper, it would be a lateral move....at best.

    28FF summed it up. I've always been partial to Acuras. Why? I dunno! Why do some people like Mercedes (like driver and Mike)? Why do some swear by BMWs (RB)? We can go on and on and on.

    I do like Acuras....particularly, the TL(X). Always have. Hell, when everyone else was throwing bombs at the "beak" period, I embraced them. I like the way I fit in them. I like the seats. I like the way they drive. I like the way they're put together. I like the way the steering feels.

    I can probably rationalize it, and I don't need a (ex) wife's permission to be a little bit foolish.

    So, do I want something other than the Q50? If that's the case, then the door opens pretty wide. Just did this exercise 4-5 months ago.

    While in bed last night thinking this whole thing through, I asked myself what I would be happier with....other than the TLX. A C300? No! An A4? No! A 330i? No! (but a 340i would do the trick, but you're talking about a $60K+ car).

    Do I just want the TLX? Maybe, as 28FF said, it would be a homecoming of sorts.

    Still, no papers have been signed. No money has left one hand into another. I may wake up tomorrow and say "what am I thinking?".

    Then the irrational side takes hold..."well, I've got that extra cash Cadillac had to pay me for the buyback, to cover my aggravation and time involved in fighting them. That would just about make up the delta in the cost of moving to the TLX".

    Then I turn over and think...."I could add that money to my next stock transaction".

    Decisions.....decisions
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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,121
    Regarding audio/video cables. If you don't have a special application (like running them through walls where heat is a factor, and ripping out bad cables is an even bigger factor), you're mostly paying for shielding, resistance, terminators (in this instance, HDMI).

    Cables either work, or they don't. If a $10 cable lasts a couple of years, and a $30 cable lasts twice that long, you'r still better off with the $10 cable.

    In audio only applications, there's been a never ending debate about how cables affect the sound. I have been on both sides of that fence, swearing I could hear a difference between cables. In the analog world...maybe. But, there were many other signal paths that affected sound MUCH MORE than a cable would (i.e. tonearm, cartridge, turntable shielding, quality of amplification, etc).

    Digital world, cable variables have little (or not) effect.
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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593
    edited June 2017
    GG Re the Acura: You gave very rational arguments on both sides - only you know the right answer for you. I do think your Q is a great car, and would make most people pretty satisfied.

    Re cables: From all I have read, an HDMI cable is an HDMI cable, it can be made with more expensive materials, it can be made to higher standards, it may be made in a nicer plant, it may get more inspections....basically, it works the very same as the article said, whether it is $4 or $1000. Some people feel better if they pay more, and if that's the case, it might be worth paying triple the amount. I appreciate your input though because I am an amateur in this particular field,,,,but, I am a good observer of good marketing campaigns.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,205
    edited June 2017
    GG's sales manager said:

    "We're proud of the new TLX, and particularly the A-Spec you drove. (Salesperson) told me have a 2016 Infiniti Q50 that you've only had a few months. While I don't know if you have a loan on it, or want to trade it, we'd be very interested in it as it's the kind of car I'd love to have on our used lot. I do know you keep your cars pristine. I'll make a strong trade offer if you're interested."

    I hate to tell you, but that's the same pitch they send me in the mail each month for my wife's PT Cruiser.

    Who knew that crappy Chrysler was right up there with Infinitys as desireable used cars. ;)

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,357
    in some products, the more expensive one is better quality, but that translates into how long it lasts not how well it performs while it is working.

    I had to get a new backwash hose for my pool this year. The pool store had 2 100' length ones. The basic, for about $17 (actually really cheap for one). And some whiz bang, deluxe, supposed to last 2x as long one for about $45. I went with the cheap one, taking my chances that the real world usage would make it cheaper in the long run, even if it did not last as long.

    but, as long as the one I got does not spring a leak, it will work identically to the expensive one. I just may have to put a new on one next spring, instead of maybe being able to get a 2nd year out of it.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,205
    stickguy said:

    Yup. sounds like about $10K to move up 2 model years, and scratch an itch, while getting fundamentally the "same" car. 4 door, similar size, comparable performance. Just tweaking the little things that you might like better (stereo, seats, steering feel?)

    look at it another way. Is there anything that is a step up that you could potentially get instead (thinking CPO stuff here) that you would really think of as a step up? Maybe an Audi S4? S7? A Porsche Panamera? The hot rod lexus? I would suggest a CTS-V but you would probably smack me!

    In my opinion GG is an Acura man from way back and probably won't be satisfied until he is back in the fold. If he can do it without financial hardship I say go for it.

    BTW, I just sold the Lincoln for $1000 to a guy a work. I'm already having seller's remorse but that's tempered by the fact that I got nearly 40k pretty trouble free comfortable fun miles out of it for a net cost of $2200.

    That's almost double my 10k miles per $1000 paid criteria for a good hooptie. :p

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,357
    you put 40K miles on that thing? Wow. Did not realize you had it that long. Now need to get it out of your signature.

    so what is the plan? Buy another hooptie when winter hits, or relocate to Florida by then?

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593

    GG's sales manager said:

    "We're proud of the new TLX, and particularly the A-Spec you drove. (Salesperson) told me have a 2016 Infiniti Q50 that you've only had a few months. While I don't know if you have a loan on it, or want to trade it, we'd be very interested in it as it's the kind of car I'd love to have on our used lot. I do know you keep your cars pristine. I'll make a strong trade offer if you're interested."

    I hate to tell you, but that's the same pitch they send me in the mail each month for my wife's PT Cruiser.

    Who knew that crappy Chrysler was right up there with Infinitys as desireable used cars. ;)

    I just heard new car sales are off quite a bit these days, people bought cars as we came out of the recession and the car market is saturated. Also, a lot of 3 year leases just came up so there are lots of good used cars available right now. I can understand the Acura dealer wanting to move a new car and wanting to get GG back into the fold, not sure I believe they want his used car that much....but, so far, it seems they are willing to pay top dollar for it.

    You can do well these days buying a new car....or about a 3 year old car....and, if you don't have a trade-in.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,205
    edited June 2017
    stickguy said:

    you put 40K miles on that thing? Wow. Did not realize you had it that long. Now need to get it out of your signature.

    so what is the plan? Buy another hooptie when winter hits, or relocate to Florida by then?

    don't tell my wife but I'm looking for a hooptie convertible now. Something fully depreciated, about 15 or so years old and of course super low milage, rust free.

    May have to travel to Florida to get something like that.

    This looks interesting:

    https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6158235300.html



    Always liked the style of that vintage.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331

    From time ta time I get a little hankering for this little buzz-bomb.



    2014 Mazda 2

    Something just tells me we'd get along well! I prefer this red over the apple green that is often seen gracing these little pups.

    I'm finding this buzz-bomb more and more intriguing; I know I said I was one and done with FWD, but I think I'm going to have to test drive it once the initial hysteria has died down...


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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,357
    I assume that is the type R?

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,357

    stickguy said:

    you put 40K miles on that thing? Wow. Did not realize you had it that long. Now need to get it out of your signature.

    so what is the plan? Buy another hooptie when winter hits, or relocate to Florida by then?

    don't tell my wife but I'm looking for a hooptie convertible now. Something fully depreciated, about 15 or so years old and of course super low milage, rust free.

    May have to travel to Florida to get something like that.

    This looks interesting:

    https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6158235300.html



    Always liked the style of that vintage.

    nice looking. but at that age, I think you are going to get eaten alive. But I too like those. Hate the super skinny tires, and of course, the automatic is a deal breaker.

    Not looking like much of a winter car though!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,593
    Is that a hardtop convertible....the kind of hardtop you store when you want to go somewhere with the top down, and hope it doesn't rain?
    Looks like a gem of a car.....at least, from the exterior!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,357
    regular softtop convertible, with a removable (and leave behind) hardtop too.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,287
    Neighbors across the street, 30-something couple with 2 noisy bratty kids, ardent environmentalists, big cyclists, work @ university here, bought a brand new car this week. I figured they were very anti-car and would keep their early/mid 2000s Outback wagon forever. To my surprise a brand-new Outback with temp tags now resides in their driveway. Much less station-wagon like than their old car, shorter, higher and more CUV-like.

    One odd point for me - I never really noticed the engine sound/exhaust note on their old car. The new one, though, has a very unusual sound. It actually reminds me of an old air-cooled VW. Very distinctive.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331
    stickguy said:

    I assume that is the type R?



    Of course!

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331
    edited June 2017
    stickguy said:

    stickguy said:

    you put 40K miles on that thing? Wow. Did not realize you had it that long. Now need to get it out of your signature.

    so what is the plan? Buy another hooptie when winter hits, or relocate to Florida by then?

    don't tell my wife but I'm looking for a hooptie convertible now. Something fully depreciated, about 15 or so years old and of course super low milage, rust free.

    May have to travel to Florida to get something like that.

    This looks interesting:

    https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/6158235300.html



    Always liked the style of that vintage.

    nice looking. but at that age, I think you are going to get eaten alive. But I too like those. Hate the super skinny tires, and of course, the automatic is a deal breaker.

    Not looking like much of a winter car though!
    That's the most economical M3 to maintain as it doesn't use a real M motor. That said, a droptop automatic M3 doesn't do it for me; that was back when the BMW autoboxes were considerably slower than the three pedal version...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,357
    I think it is just a normal 328i, gussied up with some M3 parts. fine by me, other than the slushbox!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767

    GG's sales manager said:

    "We're proud of the new TLX, and particularly the A-Spec you drove. (Salesperson) told me have a 2016 Infiniti Q50 that you've only had a few months. While I don't know if you have a loan on it, or want to trade it, we'd be very interested in it as it's the kind of car I'd love to have on our used lot. I do know you keep your cars pristine. I'll make a strong trade offer if you're interested."

    I hate to tell you, but that's the same pitch they send me in the mail each month for my wife's PT Cruiser.

    Who knew that crappy Chrysler was right up there with Infinitys as desireable used cars. ;)

    Marketing departments at dealers have a flair for the dramatic.
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