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imidazol97

@driver100 Make your MB invisible with camouflage.

tjc78

I can’t wait for the matte paint and black wheel phase to go away.

qbrozen

imidazol97 said:

@driver100 Make your MB invisible with camouflage.

What are those pics of? I don’t see anything.

imidazol97

It's invisible if you're in a forest area. As compared to to the desert camouflage seen a lot because of the air force base near here. 

The colors were really drab. What a waste of a vehicle 

License plate said powerful.

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

roadburner said:

snakeweasel said:

Again if it is criminal then jail time is a possibility, if jail time is not a possibility it is a civil infraction. If Kentucky is different please provide a citation. Otherwise it's the same as everywhere else.

Show me where a defendant charged with a civil infraction is entitled to the presumption of innocence, trial by jury, the right to remain silent, the right to call and cross-examine witnesses, and where the state must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. States that categorize traffic offenses as civil or administrative violations do so in order to make it much easier to keep the money flowing into their coffers.

in civil courts you are still presumed innocent until proven guilty, you can still remain silent, you don't have to testify, you can call and cross examine witnesses and the like. I know I have done it and seen others do it.

How did that work out for you?

driver100

explorerx4 said:

@vemture,
My post was directed more towards driver100. There is probably a date code on your car battery, too.
Why are you buying 3 year batteries? They are the bottom of the line.
I only buy 8 year batteries from my Ford dealer. They usually last 8 years.

I buy the batteries at stores with a high turnover rate. I started to buy 5 year batteries and now they have 10 year. But, then I saw that just means how long they will last in the package, not how long they will last working. That could make sense, some things are used twice a year...like a back up battery in a clock, and some are used every day...like the LED flashlight I use when I take Trixie out. All I know is I put the batteries in smoke alarms, mark on my calendar when they should be changed, they always go within a year or two at the most. I don't mind changing batteries with an 8 foor ladder....but, I don't do 14 foot ladders anymore.

stickguy

I guess that means you aren't coming over any time soon to clean my top gutters? 14' ain't going to come close to cutting it.

driver100

imidazol97 said:

@driver100 Make your MB invisible with camouflage.

Thanks, but I like ours better....I wouldn't trade even:

oldfarmer50

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

roadburner said:

snakeweasel said:

Again if it is criminal then jail time is a possibility, if jail time is not a possibility it is a civil infraction. If Kentucky is different please provide a citation. Otherwise it's the same as everywhere else.

Show me where a defendant charged with a civil infraction is entitled to the presumption of innocence, trial by jury, the right to remain silent, the right to call and cross-examine witnesses, and where the state must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. States that categorize traffic offenses as civil or administrative violations do so in order to make it much easier to keep the money flowing into their coffers.

in civil courts you are still presumed innocent until proven guilty, you can still remain silent, you don't have to testify, you can call and cross examine witnesses and the like. I know I have done it and seen others do it.

Were the charges dropped.....and so now you are free?

Yes charges were dropped. On more than one occasion I might add. I even beat a red light camera ticket.

Many years ago my son had to go to court for a hit and run that he allegedly did. The guy who got hit didn't get a description of the driver nor the license plate number of the car that hit him. The guy who got hit saw my sons car in a parking lot a few days later and reported it as the one that hit him. 

The prosecutor put forth the evidence and before we could put forth our argument the judge looked at the prosecutor and asked why we were their because they had no evidence that our car was the one that did the hit and run. He then dismissed the charges. 

Why would the prosecutor even bring such a case to court? I can imagine all sorts of libel and abuse of process suits you could bring on all parties involved.

fintail

The camo is dbaggy on an old CLS, but I could deal with it on a G-Wagen.

roadburner

oldfarmer50 said:

Why would the prosecutor even bring such a case to court? I can imagine all sorts of libel and abuse of process suits you could bring on all parties involved.

Some prosecutors have no sense- here's an example from today's docket:
An attorney calls me before lunch and asks if it's possible to work out a case on the afternoon pretrial docket. It's kind of a bizarre domestic case where both parties were into the drug scene and got into a wild argument where property was damaged but there were no serious injuries. So I call the victim and ask her what she'd like to see happen, and all she wants is a no contact order and also wants the defendant to undergo a drug assessment and follow through with any recommendations. I call the attorney back and offer a deal where her client pleads to three misdemeanors and takes 12 months with credit for time served(he has been locked up since August, unable to make bond), no contact, and the drug assessment. The attorney agrees to the deal and then tells me that one of my predecessor's assistants had offered ten years to serve and went on to say that she didn't care what the victim wanted, ten years was the offer.
This is but one example of the literally dozens of ridiculous cases I am trying to sort out

28firefighter

roadburner said:

Why would the prosecutor even bring such a case to court? I can imagine all sorts of libel and abuse of process suits you could bring on all parties involved.

Some prosecutors have no sense- here's an example from today's docket: An attorney calls me before lunch and asks if it's possible to work out a case on the afternoon pretrial docket. It's kind of a bizarre domestic case where both parties were into the drug scene and got into a wild argument where property was damaged but there were no serious injuries. So I call the victim and ask her what she'd like to see happen, and all she wants is a no contact order and also wants the defendant to undergo a drug assessment and follow through with any recommendations. I call the attorney back and offer a deal where her client pleads to three misdemeanors and takes 12 months with credit for time served(he has been locked up since August, unable to make bond), no contact, and the drug assessment. The attorney agrees to the deal and then tells me that one of my predecessor's assistants had offered ten years to serve and went on to say that she didn't care what the victim wanted, ten years was the offer. This is but one example of the literally dozens of ridiculous cases I am trying to sort out

You’re hitting at the heart of issues in our justice system.  Who really needs to go away vs who needs help and a leg up. 

venture

explorerx4 said:

@venture,
I should have said, Why are you settling for 3 year batteries?
You should upgrade you battery so your wife doesn't get stranded again.
At least see if there is a date on your new battery.

This is the first car I have put a battery in in a long, long time. I usually trade them after the warranty runs out.

Her work location changed and she is only about 5 minutes from the house now so I suspect it doesn't get a chance to recharge itself.

I'm not going to do anything with it now. Her car will be replaced soon.

graphicguy

@roadburner and anyone else who want a peak into the justice system, I highly recommend this podcast....

https://serialpodcast.org

I have mentioned in the past how much I love previous ones done on Serial. This one is as good, or better. Well worth a listen.

imidazol97

driver100 said:

imidazol97 said:

@driver100 Make your MB invisible with camouflage.

Thanks, but I like ours better....I wouldn't trade even:

Me too!

imidazol97

I can't really describe how drab that car looked with the dark colors and the eggshell finish.
The side photo is too generous. My camera did a lot of compensating and made it lighter but
it showed the camouflage better.

I suspect the car just came from a custom shop at the end of that road. They have all kinds
of cars in their for modifications--paint, wheels, etc. I see all kinds of specialty cars
sitting outside that they have there for work. Phatboyz. https://www.fattboyzdayton.com/index.htm?&referrer=https%3a%2f%2fwww.google.com%2f

imidazol97

Thinking of redoing that laundry room floor? Maybe more appropriate for a bathroom?

fintail

The predecessor probably owns stock in the for-profit prison system that continues to make the US a laughingstock compared to other developed nations in terms of crime and punishment.

28firefighter said:

You’re hitting at the heart of issues in our justice system.  Who really needs to go away vs who needs help and a leg up. 

fintail

I'd wager the old CLS is a vinyl wrap - those cars aren't worth a huge amount anymore, I can't imagine someone investing in such a complex paint job.

imidazol97 said:

I can't really describe how drab that car looked with the dark colors and the eggshell finish.
The side photo is too generous. My camera did a lot of compensating and made it lighter but
it showed the camouflage better.

I suspect the car just came from a custom shop at the end of that road. They have all kinds
of cars in their for modifications--paint, wheels, etc. I see all kinds of specialty cars
sitting outside that they have there for work. Phatboyz. https://www.fattboyzdayton.com/index.htm?&referrer=https%3a%2f%2fwww.google.com%2f

jmonroe1

imidazol97 said:

Thinking of redoing that laundry room floor? Maybe more appropriate for a bathroom?

If you put that floor in either of those rooms you'd definitely need a door and a warning sign so you would not be sued if a guest fell in.

jmonroe

Mr_Shiftright

fintail said:

The camo is dbaggy on an old CLS, but I could deal with it on a G-Wagen.

True, a vehicle that really needs to be camouflaged.

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

Again if it is criminal then jail time is a possibility, if jail time is not a possibility it is a civil infraction. If Kentucky is different please provide a citation. Otherwise it's the same as everywhere else.

Show me where a defendant charged with a civil infraction is entitled to the presumption of innocence, trial by jury, the right to remain silent, the right to call and cross-examine witnesses, and where the state must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. States that categorize traffic offenses as civil or administrative violations do so in order to make it much easier to keep the money flowing into their coffers.

in civil courts you are still presumed innocent until proven guilty, you can still remain silent, you don't have to testify, you can call and cross examine witnesses and the like. I know I have done it and seen others do it.

How did that work out for you?

I remember one time someone proved something an officer did that brought all the tickets that officer wrote that day into question. The judge had everyone that got a ticket from that officer that day to come forward and he dismissed them all at one time.

dino001

imidazol97 said:

Thinking of redoing that laundry room floor? Maybe more appropriate for a bathroom?

Reminds me portable hole from Bugs Bunny.

snakeweasel

oldfarmer50 said:

Why would the prosecutor even bring such a case to court? I can imagine all sorts of libel and abuse of process suits you could bring on all parties involved.

I have no idea why. My best guess is an inexperienced prosecutor and the complainant swearing it was the car that hit him. In any case the judge was wise enough to know there was no case there.

snakeweasel

imidazol97 said:

Thinking of redoing that laundry room floor? Maybe more appropriate for a bathroom?

You're going to have a guy with a beard stand on your laundry room floor?

snakeweasel

Well the forecast is it to drop below zero around 5PM today and not hit zero until around 3AM Friday morning. That works out to 57 hours of subzero weather.  It's forecasted to be in the mid 20s below on the morning commute both Wednesday and Thursday. 

It remains to be seen if I am the only one stupid enough to come to work.

jmonroe1

snakeweasel said:

Well the forecast is it to drop below zero around 5PM today and not hit zero until around 3AM Friday morning. That works out to 57 hours of subzero weather.  It's forecasted to be in the mid 20s below on the morning commute both Wednesday and Thursday. 

It remains to be seen if I am the only one stupid enough to come to work.

Look at it like this, if when you get there and you see some of your fellow employees, have a stupid party.

jmonroe

stickguy

I’d be staying home. Dog would be lucky to get outside to pee.

snakeweasel

stickguy said:

I’d be staying home. Dog would be lucky to get outside to pee.

I am tempted to stay home however I'm in payroll and once you pay someone they expect you to keep paying them. 

stickguy

Man, what a straight line for a shutdown joke!

imidazol97

snakeweasel said:

Well the forecast is it to drop below zero around 5PM today and not hit zero until around 3AM Friday morning. That works out to 57 hours of subzero weather.  It's forecasted to be in the mid 20s below on the morning commute both Wednesday and Thursday. 

It remains to be seen if I am the only one stupid enough to come to work.

I had listened to 890 WLS on the way home from Menards last night. This morning when I started the car to go get coffee, the station said people were advised NOT to go outdoors tomorrow at all because it will be too dangerous.

Notice I haven't said anything about our forecase for today, tomorrow, and Thursday, which is COLD but pales compared to Chicago, Detroit, and northwest of there.

driver100

They say Chicago will have wind chill of -50F tomorrow....coldest day in a generation!
If I was you snake, I would stay in bed....and turn the electric blanket up to FULL SPEED.

driver100

Mr_Shiftright said:

fintail said:

The camo is dbaggy on an old CLS, but I could deal with it on a G-Wagen.

True, a vehicle that really needs to be camouflaged.

A G Wagon.....love 'em or hate 'em!

stickguy

my local Volvo dealer of all places has a used G wagon (they very rarely have non-Volvo used cars). If this price is reasonable, people who buy these are nuts!

https://www.cherryhillvolvocars.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2014-Mercedes-Benz-G-Class-cherry-hill-nj-0573e12d0a0e0adf62aba4d9ab640888.htm

Mr_Shiftright

The brand new version has improved quite a bit--the older ones seem like a good example of the Emperor's New Clothes on 4 wheels.

fintail

From what I have seen, that's a full retail price, but not insanely high. These things have a high depreciation floor, and seem to hold a bit of value relative to their frivolity.

stickguy said:

my local Volvo dealer of all places has a used G wagon (they very rarely have non-Volvo used cars). If this price is reasonable, people who buy these are nuts!

https://www.cherryhillvolvocars.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2014-Mercedes-Benz-G-Class-cherry-hill-nj-0573e12d0a0e0adf62aba4d9ab640888.htm

venture

stickguy said:

my local Volvo dealer of all places has a used G wagon (they very rarely have non-Volvo used cars). If this price is reasonable, people who buy these are nuts!

https://www.cherryhillvolvocars.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2014-Mercedes-Benz-G-Class-cherry-hill-nj-0573e12d0a0e0adf62aba4d9ab640888.htm

It seems expensive to you because you probably aren't after that rare butterfly.

jmonroe1

venture said:

stickguy said:

my local Volvo dealer of all places has a used G wagon (they very rarely have non-Volvo used cars). If this price is reasonable, people who buy these are nuts!

https://www.cherryhillvolvocars.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2014-Mercedes-Benz-G-Class-cherry-hill-nj-0573e12d0a0e0adf62aba4d9ab640888.htm

It seems expensive to you because you probably aren't after that rare butterfly.

Hell, he can't even afford a door for his laundry room.

jmonroe

stickguy

We got a door. But still have to see the machines when it’s open.

ab348

driver100 said:

They say Chicago will have wind chill of -50F tomorrow....coldest day in a generation!
If I was you snake, I would stay in bed....and turn the electric blanket up to FULL SPEED.

Increasing pushback on use of alarming windchill numbers by media weather presenters of late. Good thing, too.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/windchill-temperature-better-way-1.4989897

stickguy

Makes sense. If it is cold, cover up, and try to avoid getting bare skin blasted by the wind.

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

stickguy said:

my local Volvo dealer of all places has a used G wagon (they very rarely have non-Volvo used cars). If this price is reasonable, people who buy these are nuts!

https://www.cherryhillvolvocars.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2014-Mercedes-Benz-G-Class-cherry-hill-nj-0573e12d0a0e0adf62aba4d9ab640888.htm

It seems expensive to you because you probably aren't after that rare butterfly.

Hell, he can't even afford a door for his laundry room.

jmonroe

At least his washer and dryer are the same color.

jmonroe1

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

stickguy said:

my local Volvo dealer of all places has a used G wagon (they very rarely have non-Volvo used cars). If this price is reasonable, people who buy these are nuts!

https://www.cherryhillvolvocars.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2014-Mercedes-Benz-G-Class-cherry-hill-nj-0573e12d0a0e0adf62aba4d9ab640888.htm

It seems expensive to you because you probably aren't after that rare butterfly.

Hell, he can't even afford a door for his laundry room.

jmonroe

At least his washer and dryer are the same color.

@isellhondas doesn't think it is important.

BTW, did he get lost again or did he ignore his last dues statement?

jmonroe

[Deleted User]

Going....going....gone.

Looks like I need to update my profile to show the Audi sold. I was tired of waiting on Audi for the new pump and instead informed buyers there was a pending recall replacement.

It's been mentioned that manual transmission cars are regarded as sale-proof, but I personally didn't experience any trouble. Between Wednesday and Saturday last week I had a line of 7 people wanting to buy the car, and all mentioned they specifically wanted my car because it was a manual that had been well maintained.

So, I think that was my last manual car. It's a weird feeling knowing I'm highly unlikely to buy another car with a manual transmission....or any transmission at all for that matter.

driver100

stickguy said:

my local Volvo dealer of all places has a used G wagon (they very rarely have non-Volvo used cars). If this price is reasonable, people who buy these are nuts!

https://www.cherryhillvolvocars.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2014-Mercedes-Benz-G-Class-cherry-hill-nj-0573e12d0a0e0adf62aba4d9ab640888.htm

It isn't too bad a price since a new one starts at about $125000. Depreciates about the same as most cars, and they would probably take closer to $60000 for it.

I know if you can afford one...you may not mind 15 mpg....but, no matter how much money I had, I don't think I could justify that to myself.

driver100

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

stickguy said:

my local Volvo dealer of all places has a used G wagon (they very rarely have non-Volvo used cars). If this price is reasonable, people who buy these are nuts!

https://www.cherryhillvolvocars.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2014-Mercedes-Benz-G-Class-cherry-hill-nj-0573e12d0a0e0adf62aba4d9ab640888.htm

It seems expensive to you because you probably aren't after that rare butterfly.

Hell, he can't even afford a door for his laundry room.

jmonroe

At least his washer and dryer are the same color.

@isellhondas doesn't think it is important.

BTW, did he get lost again or did he ignore his last dues statement?

jmonroe

You value isells judgement over mine?
We don't even know where his is!

driver100

ab348 said:

driver100 said:

They say Chicago will have wind chill of -50F tomorrow....coldest day in a generation!
If I was you snake, I would stay in bed....and turn the electric blanket up to FULL SPEED.

Increasing pushback on use of alarming windchill numbers by media weather presenters of late. Good thing, too.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/windchill-temperature-better-way-1.4989897

Windchill is a bit silly...part of the media's way of making everything seem worse than it is. However it does serve a purpose, if for example I was going to be outside playing tennis and it was 48F like it was on Monday, I would dress a lot warmer if there was a strong breeze from the North making it feel more like 40F....which there was. In that way, it does serve a purpose, if used properly.

driver100

tyguy said:

Going....going....gone.

Looks like I need to update my profile to show the Audi sold. I was tired of waiting on Audi for the new pump and instead informed buyers there was a pending recall replacement.

It's been mentioned that manual transmission cars are regarded as sale-proof, but I personally didn't experience any trouble. Between Wednesday and Saturday last week I had a line of 7 people wanting to buy the car, and all mentioned they specifically wanted my car because it was a manual that had been well maintained.

So, I think that was my last manual car. It's a weird feeling knowing I'm highly unlikely to buy another car with a manual transmission....or any transmission at all for that matter.

Although there are fewer buyers looking for a manual there aren't too many on the market for the people who do want one. Since they are hard to find there is demand.
Our 2013 A4 was our last manual, after that we bought Mercedes and they don't offer manuals. I miss it, but, the fact is, they have more disadvantages for me than advantages. Love shifting gears on the right roads....but, a pain in city traffic or on crowded roads. And, then there is the broken leg or arm or other health issue problem which could arise...making shifting very difficult.
Mrs D and I are now used to automatics....don't even think of it much anymore.

driver100

Forgot...the interior on the G Class is beautifully done. And the high seating position and large windows make it very comfortable.

oldfarmer50

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Why would the prosecutor even bring such a case to court? I can imagine all sorts of libel and abuse of process suits you could bring on all parties involved.

Some prosecutors have no sense- here's an example from today's docket:
An attorney calls me before lunch and asks if it's possible to work out a case on the afternoon pretrial docket. It's kind of a bizarre domestic case where both parties were into the drug scene and got into a wild argument where property was damaged but there were no serious injuries. So I call the victim and ask her what she'd like to see happen, and all she wants is a no contact order and also wants the defendant to undergo a drug assessment and follow through with any recommendations. I call the attorney back and offer a deal where her client pleads to three misdemeanors and takes 12 months with credit for time served(he has been locked up since August, unable to make bond), no contact, and the drug assessment. The attorney agrees to the deal and then tells me that one of my predecessor's assistants had offered ten years to serve and went on to say that she didn't care what the victim wanted, ten years was the offer.
This is but one example of the literally dozens of ridiculous cases I am trying to sort out

Wrath of god vs. king Solomon. I’d say your area is in for some positive change.