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  • 9170991709 Member Posts: 3
    I am a bit lost here. I am looking to lease a 2015 MC S fully loaded which comes in at 39,000. I offered 5,500 down and was still offered an incredibly high rate of 486/mo for a 3 year/36,000 mile. What am I missing?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514
    mwahlert said:

    Any change in numbers for August?

    2015 MCS 2DR
    24 - 10/12/15
    36 - 10/12/15

    2015 MCS 4DR
    24 - 10/12/15
    36 - 10/12/15

    THANKS.

    2DR: .00104 MF and 65%/60% for 24/36mo, 15K/yr
    4DR: .00110 MF and 64%/57% for 24/36mo, 15K/yr

    Add 2% for 12K/yr or 3% for 10K/yr

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  • derekd562derekd562 Member Posts: 10
    Can you give me the numbers on a 2015 JCW 36/15k?

    THANKS.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    mwahlert said:

    Any change in numbers for August?

    2015 MCS 2DR
    24 - 10/12/15
    36 - 10/12/15

    2015 MCS 4DR
    24 - 10/12/15
    36 - 10/12/15

    THANKS.

    24/15 numbers
    2 door - .00104 and 65%
    4 door - .00110 and 64%

    36/15 numbers
    2 door - .00104 and 60%
    4 door - .00110 and 57%

    Add 2% for 12K and 3% for 10K

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    91709 said:

    I am a bit lost here. I am looking to lease a 2015 MC S fully loaded which comes in at 39,000. I offered 5,500 down and was still offered an incredibly high rate of 486/mo for a 3 year/36,000 mile. What am I missing?

    Selling price? Breakdown of the $5500 due at signing?

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    derekd562 said:

    Can you give me the numbers on a 2015 JCW 36/15k?

    THANKS.

    .00120 and 52%

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  • four4ringsfour4rings Member Posts: 32
    Need help with numbers on a MINI Cooper Base 2 Door
    36 - 10/12/15

    Thank you!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514

    Need help with numbers on a MINI Cooper Base 2 Door
    36 - 10/12/15

    Thank you!

    .00117 MF and 63%/62%/60% residual

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  • dessypdessyp Member Posts: 9
    We are deciding between a VW Golf SE and Mini Countryman S lease.

    I don't see any lease cash incentives for either right now.

    Would you please let me know the Money Factor (excellent credit) and Residual for 36 months/10,000 miles for the Mini Countryman S?

    Also, is the residual number based on the MSRP, the lower sales price I negotiate or the "final" number that includes acquisition, docs, disposition fees?

    Thanks very much.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    dessyp said:

    We are deciding between a VW Golf SE and Mini Countryman S lease.

    I don't see any lease cash incentives for either right now.

    Would you please let me know the Money Factor (excellent credit) and Residual for 36 months/10,000 miles for the Mini Countryman S?

    Also, is the residual number based on the MSRP, the lower sales price I negotiate or the "final" number that includes acquisition, docs, disposition fees?

    Thanks very much.

    .00077 and 64% for 36/10.

    Residual is calculated against the MSRP - the bottom number on the window sticker inclusive of all options and destination charge.

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  • dessypdessyp Member Posts: 9
    Michaell said:

    dessyp said:

    We are deciding between a VW Golf SE and Mini Countryman S lease.

    I don't see any lease cash incentives for either right now.

    Would you please let me know the Money Factor (excellent credit) and Residual for 36 months/10,000 miles for the Mini Countryman S?

    Also, is the residual number based on the MSRP, the lower sales price I negotiate or the "final" number that includes acquisition, docs, disposition fees?

    Thanks very much.

    .00077 and 64% for 36/10.

    Residual is calculated against the MSRP - the bottom number on the window sticker inclusive of all options and destination charge.
    Thank you so much! This is tremendously helpful

  • four4ringsfour4rings Member Posts: 32
    kyfdx said:

    Need help with numbers on a MINI Cooper Base 2 Door
    36 - 10/12/15

    Thank you!

    .00117 MF and 63%/62%/60% residual
    Thank you! Much more financially viable to lease the Cooper S.
  • dessypdessyp Member Posts: 9
    Michaell said:

    .00077 and 64% for 36/10.

    Residual is calculated against the MSRP - the bottom number on the window sticker inclusive of all options and destination charge.

    I have been quoted .00127 and .00117 Money Factors from two different dealerships. Is it common practice for dealerships to mark that up?

    Thank you.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    dessyp said:

    Michaell said:

    .00077 and 64% for 36/10.

    Residual is calculated against the MSRP - the bottom number on the window sticker inclusive of all options and destination charge.

    I have been quoted .00127 and .00117 Money Factors from two different dealerships. Is it common practice for dealerships to mark that up?

    Thank you.

    Yes, it is common to mark up the MF for extra profit.

    I'm sure you can find a dealership that will write up a deal with the base MF.

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  • jball1129jball1129 Member Posts: 3
    Mini Countryman Base MSRP $25,770
    Lease: 36 months, 12k miles, $1k down, $225/month....is this a good deal?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514
    jball1129 said:

    Mini Countryman Base MSRP $25,770
    Lease: 36 months, 12k miles, $1k down, $225/month....is this a good deal?

    .00071 MF and 63% residual. $500 lease credit.

    What is the selling price/CAP cost?
    Is $1000 the total amount due at signing, or is it $1000 down plus 1st payment, etc?
    Does that include tax? If so, what is state/tax rate?

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  • jball1129jball1129 Member Posts: 3
    CAP cost = $22,830.68. Southern California. $1000 is the total amount due at signing, includes 1st payment. $225/ month includes tax and fees.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    jball1129 said:

    CAP cost = $22,830.68. Southern California. $1000 is the total amount due at signing, includes 1st payment. $225/ month includes tax and fees.

    If the tax rate is 9%, I get $230/mo with those numbers.

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  • jball1129jball1129 Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:

    jball1129 said:

    CAP cost = $22,830.68. Southern California. $1000 is the total amount due at signing, includes 1st payment. $225/ month includes tax and fees.

    If the tax rate is 9%, I get $230/mo with those numbers.
    Is that a good deal?

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    jball1129 said:

    Michaell said:

    jball1129 said:

    CAP cost = $22,830.68. Southern California. $1000 is the total amount due at signing, includes 1st payment. $225/ month includes tax and fees.

    If the tax rate is 9%, I get $230/mo with those numbers.
    Is that a good deal?

    If you're comfortable with the selling price, then yes.

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  • 9170991709 Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:

    91709 said:

    I am a bit lost here. I am looking to lease a 2015 MC S fully loaded which comes in at 39,000. I offered 5,500 down and was still offered an incredibly high rate of 486/mo for a 3 year/36,000 mile. What am I missing?

    Selling price? Breakdown of the $5500 due at signing?
    So I actually negotiated down to 3500 down at signing on a custom 4-door Cooper S with a 3yr/36000 mile plan. I am getting a rate of 465/month. The residual I got was at 59% and the money factor was .00110. The monthly payments seem rather high to me. What do you advise?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    91709 said:

    Michaell said:

    91709 said:

    I am a bit lost here. I am looking to lease a 2015 MC S fully loaded which comes in at 39,000. I offered 5,500 down and was still offered an incredibly high rate of 486/mo for a 3 year/36,000 mile. What am I missing?

    Selling price? Breakdown of the $5500 due at signing?
    So I actually negotiated down to 3500 down at signing on a custom 4-door Cooper S with a 3yr/36000 mile plan. I am getting a rate of 465/month. The residual I got was at 59% and the money factor was .00110. The monthly payments seem rather high to me. What do you advise?
    Still need to know the selling price to unravel the whole picture, plus the breakdown of the $3500 down.

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  • 9170991709 Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:
    I am a bit lost here. I am looking to lease a 2015 MC S fully loaded which comes in at 39,000. I offered 5,500 down and was still offered an incredibly high rate of 486/mo for a 3 year/36,000 mile. What am I missing?
    Selling price? Breakdown of the $5500 due at signing?
    So I actually negotiated down to 3500 down at signing on a custom 4-door Cooper S with a 3yr/36000 mile plan. I am getting a rate of 465/month. The residual I got was at 59% and the money factor was .00110. The monthly payments seem rather high to me. What do you advise?
    Still need to know the selling price to unravel the whole picture, plus the breakdown of the $3500 down.
    The total cost is 40k. I am putting 3500 down straight cash.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    91709 said:


    Michaell said:

    91709 said:

    Michaell said:

    91709 said:

    I am a bit lost here. I am looking to lease a 2015 MC S fully loaded which comes in at 39,000. I offered 5,500 down and was still offered an incredibly high rate of 486/mo for a 3 year/36,000 mile. What am I missing?

    Selling price? Breakdown of the $5500 due at signing?
    So I actually negotiated down to 3500 down at signing on a custom 4-door Cooper S with a 3yr/36000 mile plan. I am getting a rate of 465/month. The residual I got was at 59% and the money factor was .00110. The monthly payments seem rather high to me. What do you advise?
    Still need to know the selling price to unravel the whole picture, plus the breakdown of the $3500 down.

    The total cost is 40k. I am putting 3500 down straight cash.

    The total cost is higher than the MSRP? What am I missing?

    Are they adding in all the fees to the selling price to get the $40K number?

    And, my guess is that not all of the $3500 up front money is going to "cap cost reduction" (aka down payment).

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  • td_inctd_inc Member Posts: 55
    Hi!
    Could you confirm the MF and residual for a 2015 Countryman S All4?
  • jsrmajsrma Member Posts: 4
    I just pulled the trigger on a 2015 Mini Cooper S 4 door hardtop Lease - MSRP $30,500 including destination. $3600 down off the lot. $265/mon inc sales tax.

    I thought it was a good deal - can anyone confirm ?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    td_inc said:

    Hi!
    Could you confirm the MF and residual for a 2015 Countryman S All4?

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    jsrma said:

    I just pulled the trigger on a 2015 Mini Cooper S 4 door hardtop Lease - MSRP $30,500 including destination. $3600 down off the lot. $265/mon inc sales tax.

    I thought it was a good deal - can anyone confirm ?

    What was the selling price? Hoes does the $3600 break down? Lease term and miles per year?

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  • jsrmajsrma Member Posts: 4
    Michaell said:

    jsrma said:

    I just pulled the trigger on a 2015 Mini Cooper S 4 door hardtop Lease - MSRP $30,500 including destination. $3600 down off the lot. $265/mon inc sales tax.

    I thought it was a good deal - can anyone confirm ?

    What was the selling price? Hoes does the $3600 break down? Lease term and miles per year?
    Lease term for 36 months / 10k miles per year. The $3600 down includes down payment, 1st payment and all the taxes, fees (reg, title etc) to drive the car off the lot. I haven't looked at the final sale price still waiting on the paperwork. Did most of the deal over the phone. But i'm guessing it is lower than the msrp based on the down payment amount and $265 per month.
  • bk382bk382 Member Posts: 4
    Can you please give me the lease information on a 2015 2 door cooper S, MSRP around 34000, 3yr/10k miles. I can put about 3k total down. What should my monthly payments look like?

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    jsrma said:

    Michaell said:

    jsrma said:

    I just pulled the trigger on a 2015 Mini Cooper S 4 door hardtop Lease - MSRP $30,500 including destination. $3600 down off the lot. $265/mon inc sales tax.

    I thought it was a good deal - can anyone confirm ?

    What was the selling price? Hoes does the $3600 break down? Lease term and miles per year?
    Lease term for 36 months / 10k miles per year. The $3600 down includes down payment, 1st payment and all the taxes, fees (reg, title etc) to drive the car off the lot. I haven't looked at the final sale price still waiting on the paperwork. Did most of the deal over the phone. But i'm guessing it is lower than the msrp based on the down payment amount and $265 per month.
    How much down payment? That is not something we recommend for a lease - if the car is stolen or totaled, you would lose that money.

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  • td_inctd_inc Member Posts: 55
    Michaell said:

    td_inc said:

    Hi!
    Could you confirm the MF and residual for a 2015 Countryman S All4?

    What lease term and how many miles per year?
    36/12 or if there is a more advantageous term
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514
    td_inc said:

    Michaell said:

    td_inc said:

    Hi!
    Could you confirm the MF and residual for a 2015 Countryman S All4?

    What lease term and how many miles per year?
    36/12 or if there is a more advantageous term
    .00074 MF and 62% residual.

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  • td_inctd_inc Member Posts: 55
    kyfdx said:

    td_inc said:

    Michaell said:

    td_inc said:

    Hi!
    Could you confirm the MF and residual for a 2015 Countryman S All4?

    What lease term and how many miles per year?
    36/12 or if there is a more advantageous term
    .00074 MF and 62% residual.
    Thank you kyfdx! And Michaell
  • kw_dakw_da Member Posts: 76
    kyfdx said:

    td_inc said:

    Michaell said:

    td_inc said:

    Hi!
    Could you confirm the MF and residual for a 2015 Countryman S All4?

    What lease term and how many miles per year?
    36/12 or if there is a more advantageous term
    .00074 MF and 62% residual.
    thanks for your MF and residual info - where do you get it from? Can we expect the dealers to honor these numbers if asked? Any changes for Sept?

    Using these numbers (MF=.00104, residual=63%), the MCS 2dr national lease deal doesn't look too good - I come up with $182/month vs their $199 - does this make sense?

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514
    kw_da said:

    kyfdx said:

    td_inc said:

    Michaell said:

    td_inc said:

    Hi!
    Could you confirm the MF and residual for a 2015 Countryman S All4?

    What lease term and how many miles per year?
    36/12 or if there is a more advantageous term
    .00074 MF and 62% residual.
    thanks for your MF and residual info - where do you get it from? Can we expect the dealers to honor these numbers if asked? Any changes for Sept?

    Using these numbers (MF=.00104, residual=63%), the MCS 2dr national lease deal doesn't look too good - I come up with $182/month vs their $199 - does this make sense?

    Yes... new numbers for September.

    Which model, term and mileage?

    Please ask your question without quoting an unrelated post.

    thanks!

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  • kw_dakw_da Member Posts: 76


    Yes... new numbers for September.

    Which model, term and mileage?

    Please ask your question without quoting an unrelated post.

    thanks!

    Can I please get the MF and residual values for the following (I assume these are from Mini Financial?):

    36 months, 12k, 10k, 8k milage

    2dr Mini Cooper Hardtop
    2d Mini Cooper S Hardtop

    I went to the dealer last night, they said .00168 mf for 2d MC, which doesn't match the national lease factors

    by the way, if I just want to roll everything into the lease, is the correct way just to add the costs to the capitalization costs?

    thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    kw_da said:

    Yes... new numbers for September.

    Which model, term and mileage?

    Please ask your question without quoting an unrelated post.

    thanks!

    Can I please get the MF and residual values for the following (I assume these are from Mini Financial?):

    36 months, 12k, 10k, 8k milage

    2dr Mini Cooper Hardtop
    2d Mini Cooper S Hardtop

    I went to the dealer last night, they said .00168 mf for 2d MC, which doesn't match the national lease factors

    by the way, if I just want to roll everything into the lease, is the correct way just to add the costs to the capitalization costs?

    thanks

    36/10 numbers:

    Cooper - .00129 and 61%
    Cooper S - .00113 and 61%

    Subtract 1% for 12K. Add 1% for 7,500 miles per year.

    Dealer can mark up the MF for extra profit.

    Yes, add your fees, etc. to the negotiated price to achieve a $0 due at signing payment.

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  • kw_dakw_da Member Posts: 76
    Michaell said:

    kw_da said:

    36/10 numbers:

    Cooper - .00129 and 61%
    Cooper S - .00113 and 61%

    Subtract 1% for 12K. Add 1% for 7,500 miles per year.

    Dealer can mark up the MF for extra profit.

    Yes, add your fees, etc. to the negotiated price to achieve a $0 due at signing payment.
    thanks for the info - that is what they used for the new quote - made a deal, waiting for the car to come in & do final paper work.
  • neilinctneilinct Member Posts: 2
    kyfdx said:



    Yes... new numbers for September.

    Which model, term and mileage?

    2015 Cooper S Hardtop 4dr 36/10
    2016 Cooper S Hardtop 4dr 36/10

    They are currently offering a lease special on these at $249/$299 respectively. Wondering what the corresponding money factors are. Or do i just ignore that and work towards some other money factor?

    Thanks for the info. First time leasing & trying to learn the ropes.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514
    edited September 2015


    2015 Cooper S Hardtop 4dr 36/10
    2016 Cooper S Hardtop 4dr 36/10

    They are currently offering a lease special on these at $249/$299 respectively. Wondering what the corresponding money factors are. Or do i just ignore that and work towards some other money factor?

    Thanks for the info. First time leasing & trying to learn the ropes.


    2015: .00113 MF and 61% residual. $1000 option credit, $500 lease credit.
    2016: .00130 MF and 57% residual.

    2016 advertised deal assumes those lease variables and a $500 dealer discount from MSRP.

    2015 advertised deal assumes above variables and credits and an $800 dealer discount from MSRP.

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  • neilinctneilinct Member Posts: 2
    kyfdx said:

    2015 Cooper S Hardtop 4dr 36/10
    2016 Cooper S Hardtop 4dr 36/10

    They are currently offering a lease special on these at $249/$299 respectively. Wondering what the corresponding money factors are. Or do i just ignore that and work towards some other money factor?

    Thanks for the info. First time leasing & trying to learn the ropes.

    2015: .00113 MF and 61% residual. $1000 option credit, $500 lease credit.
    2016: .00130 MF and 57% residual.

    2016 advertised deal assumes those lease variables and a $500 dealer discount from MSRP.

    2015 advertised deal assumes above variables and credits and an $800 dealer discount from MSRP.

    The credits & dealer discounts you listed appear to be for the 2-door. On the 4-door the credits are actually half that of the 2-door ($500 & $250 respectively) and the dealer discount is $750.

    Any chance the MF is also different?
  • sharkhunter1sharkhunter1 Member Posts: 1
    Hi,
    Looking to lease 2015 Cooper S Hardtop 4 Dr 36/10
    What is the MF for this model.
    And a dealer Quoted

    1000$ downpayment + 7 MSDs and the monthly payment comes to 280$ and said that this deal is only until August.

    Are current month MF better than last month.
    Any additional tips for saving. Planning to visit the dealer tomorrow.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514
    @neilinct I'm sorry... you are correct. I quoted the 2-door.

    2015: .00114 MF and 59% residual. $500 + $250. Dealer discount $750 on advertised lease

    2016: .00130 MF and 56% residual. Dealer discount $500 on advertised lease.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514

    Hi,
    Looking to lease 2015 Cooper S Hardtop 4 Dr 36/10
    What is the MF for this model.
    And a dealer Quoted

    1000$ downpayment + 7 MSDs and the monthly payment comes to 280$ and said that this deal is only until August.

    Are current month MF better than last month.
    Any additional tips for saving. Planning to visit the dealer tomorrow.

    .00114 and 59% residual. $500 option credit + $250 lease credit.

    7 MSDs should take it town to .00065 MF

    Everything is slightly worse than last month..

    Residual is lower, money factor is higher and incentives are lower.

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  • ahydrieahydrie Member Posts: 13
    Hi,
    Could you share the current lease rates and incentives on a 2015 MINI Cooper Countryman S ALL4?
    36 months, 12000 miles
    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,161
    ahydrie said:

    Hi,
    Could you share the current lease rates and incentives on a 2015 MINI Cooper Countryman S ALL4?
    36 months, 12000 miles
    Thanks!

    .00090 and 61%

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  • 2takoyaki2takoyaki Member Posts: 3
    How about the MF and residual for a 2016 Countryman S All4 at 3 years, 10k miles? I assume it's different than the 2015 you quoted. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,514
    2takoyaki said:

    How about the MF and residual for a 2016 Countryman S All4 at 3 years, 10k miles? I assume it's different than the 2015 you quoted. Thanks!

    .00130 MF and 54% residual

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  • cb4dcb4d Member Posts: 47
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