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my email: pei20361@yahoo.com
Thanks,
Invoice according to Edmunds: $22,696
Offer: $20,700 (excludes dest. fee, TTL, misc. govt. fees, dealer fee)
Don't be afraid to put deposits on offers from competing dealerships and using them as leverage to spark a bidding war.
23K is a sweet price
Tie up cars with deposits so you can go merilly on your way shopping.
If a dealer did that to you, you would probably be all over these forums telling your tale of woe and how you were mistreated.
What a lousy thing for you to suggest!
Thanks
I'm not sure what this has to do with isell's concern about putting deposits down on several cars. That hurts other buyers who might be interested in a particular vehicle. One can get a great deal without doing things like that.
If you were treated "like crap" at a dealership, don't shop there. To lump all dealerships with that one seems a bit shortsighted. Also, going in with that confrontational attitude isn't going to help you much. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for hard-nosed negotiating. But not recognizing that the sales staff are human is not the greatest advice to be giving in this forum.
BTW, I'm not a car salesman nor do I have anything to do with the business.
What does your Beacon score have to do with anything?
You may have been treated poorly because of your attitude. Did you stop to think that just may have been the case?
Attitude runs both ways and based by the tone of your post, you don't sound like someone I would want to do business with. If you were treated that badly, why in the world would you still buy a car from that store?
I don't doubt you may bave been mistreated but there were a whole lot of other stores and people you could have bought a used car from.
This isn't a matter of "feelings". It's matter of making a commitment, shaking hands and leaving a deposit to take a car off the market somply so a person can go shop that number all over town. I guess you think that's a good thing to do?
Much more trouble than its worth for the buyer than any of the dealerships in most cases.
Good luck
--jjf
Never again will I deal with salesmen and dealerships who have an attitude problem.
I'm not sure what this has to do with isell's concern about putting deposits down on several cars. That hurts other buyers who might be interested in a particular vehicle. One can get a great deal without doing things like that.
If you were treated "like crap" at a dealership, don't shop there. To lump all dealerships with that one seems a bit shortsighted. Also, going in with that confrontational attitude isn't going to help you much. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for hard-nosed negotiating. But not recognizing that the sales staff are human is not the greatest advice to be giving in this forum.
BTW, I'm not a car salesman nor do I have anything to do with the business.
I happen to think that is unethical and underhanded and you jumped in at that point.
I think that if an agreement is made between two parties, be it a car, house or anything else that both parties should honor their handshake and their word. Others here disagree with this.
I wonder what would happen if a car dealer agreed to a deal, accepted a deposit and then sold the car to someone else who was willing to pay more money?
As far as your "deal"? I wouldn't want it. I do appreciate your best wishes however.
I still can't understand why you would have gone ahead and bought a car from a store who treated you so poorly. I know I would have walked out.
Doug
You seem to paint with a broad brush. If you are in California I can understand that. My experiences were the same when I lived there.
Not everyone is that way. After 12 years in the business at the same store, probably a third of my business comes from repeat and referral customers. Others here have similar results. This doesn't come from dissatisfied customers.
Reading some of the posts about ethical practices of the buyers and dealers, I'll give you my 2 cents. When I realized how low I could actually buy this car for, I must have called 8-10 Honda dealers in a 50 mile radius to see if they had any SE's on their lots. Three of them said they did and I asked them for their "best" price. I told them I already had a price from my local dealer and they wanted to know what it was. I wouldn't tell them. They seemed a little dumbfounded that I wouldn't reveal the price so they could undercut it by a few dollars. I don't play that game. A person could go crazy nickel and dimeing a deal to death between a few dealers. I would have been the one in the middle doing all that work....and for what.....an extra $100-$200??? Not worth it to me. By profession, I am a buyer and when I send out a request for quote for a part to several suppliers, I don't reveal to the suppliers who I have received quotes from and how much the quotes are. It's not a good way to develop a customer/supplier relationship. I used the same principle when I bought my car. Needless to say, the other dealers didn't come close and I did tell one dealer just that when he asked if he was close, but nothing more than that. They were a bit frustrated but one salesman told me he appreciated my morals anyway. Although I didn't tell my local dealer what I did, I'm sure they would have appreciated it as well.
That's my story and I'm stickin' to it
20,000 OTD
Here is the break up I can figure out
Price 18100
Tax 1176.5
Doc +
advertiding(TX) 100
DMV 150
aTinting +
VIN etching +
pin striping 450
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Total ~20,000
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and I got ext. warranty 7Yrs/100,000 = 800.00 ($100 deductble)
process was smooth. sales men were professional.
But I was told that I need to go to Dealer's place, if I want to cancel the extended warranty. is it true?
Thanks
Why purchase when they treated you like crap?
Based on the tone of that post, I'm sure as with most things, there were two different sides to that story!
Obviously since the powertrain was already covered, the cost of the wrap wouold be much less than total coverage like the other poster paid more for.
All for last week of August
$19,440 - Cinci (highest)
$18,556 - Dayton
$18,250 - Marysville (quote 1)
$17,500 - Marysville (lowest - unsolicited quote 48 hours after ignoring the first one - called and verified and almost pulled the trigger - they sold their last SE Saturday)
$17,650 - Chicago
$17,600 - Boston
Now the really strange thing - I didn't buy! I'm in this strange position of not really needing a new vehicle but can't resist a good deal. This time I did, but got great experience using this forum which is by far the most valuable tool that Edmunds offers. I know now that doing your reasearch in forums can really pay off the biggest dividends in dollars.
Thanks all. Your posts are very helpful.
With all due respect...WHY would anyone spend that much time researching prices to death and not buy a car?
For the rest of you...be aware that inventories are getting down to nothing. Make sure the stores that are throwing out some of these prices actually have the car in stock!
$100 is for every incident.We pay 0 deductible period.
The last two new cars I've bought (one in 02, another in 05) I purchased before TTL as a ratio of MSRP for 11700/17700 or 66.1% and 17765/29750 or 59.7%. I got these prices becasue I invested some time to know the market conditions and be prepared BEFORE I walked in to buy. These weren't Hondas though and for Honda, 17500/22220 or 78.8% is a heck of a deal. Problem is, finding a great deal isn't reason enough to buy. Everything competes for your dollar and I need to keep priorities straight. I'll keep paying attention occasionally to new cars though and eventually I'll buy. Maybe after Christamas - maybe next year at model year end, who knows.
Now, for you ... you make a living selling Hondas? Why do you frequent this forum and waste your time? You aren't learning anything here that helps you sell are you?
Trying to work a good deal on a 4cyl SE stick shift for my sister that's been in a local dealer's inventory for at least a month. Due to her budget, I'm trying to get it for $3000 under invoice, but the negotiating has stalled at $2500 under invoice (good through 9/4.) I realize that $2500 is still a fantastic deal (same deal I got on my SE 4cyl Automatic last week), but I'm trying to stick within her budget and just wondering if they might be more anxious to move this particular manual transmission car.
They did say that if we financed through the dealership (or through their "network"), they "might" be able to work with the $3000 under. Her credit union offers a 60 month loan at 6% and she has excellent credit. What type of rates would a dealership give and what's in it for them? I mean, do they get a referral fee or something back from the bank? Please advise - I have always been leary of financing through a dealer unless there was a special APR through the manufacture.
You can finance it through the dealer intiality for the good deal. Make sure there is no prepayment penalty and then pay it off and get a loan from the credit union. A quick way to save herself some $$$$.
At least that's what a Honda saleman told me.
What's worse is that they flat out lied to me when I asked them after a week of waiting, "yes or no, do you have the car on the lot?" by answering yes. Only after I immediately demanded a VIN number did they say they would go "get" that info and call me right back. Two hours later with no call, I had to call them back and demand the number a second time, and only then did they fess up that they were still "looking" for the vehicle to fill my order. Their shadiness and lack of communication cost me better deals at other dealerships than I can now currently find.
Finally, when I told them that I was tired of the run around and was going to go buy the same car elsewhere (before all of that particular color and trim disappeared), they threatened that I'd forfeit my deposit if I did so. When I demanded to know how they could justify keeping a deposit on a car they never actually had, the guy had no answer and acted ticked off at me. Only then did I tell him that I was a lawyer and aware of my rights. He responded by saying "I do this for a living and I know my rights, too." And he hung up on me.
I called the GM of the dealership and he apologized, but needless to say the buying relationship is irretrievably broken.
Actually, I enjoy reading this stuff and sometimes I even contribute.
Whatever floats your boat!
Jason
Doesn't sound like a "better" idea to me!