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And, I'll save you a lot of grief.. Any problems with original equipment tires? Just suck it up and pay for it... No one will do anything for you from a monetary standpoint..
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I've never had side airbags in a vehicle before, so I didn't understand what was going on. I thought there was something wrong. So I guess all of the days that I've had my laptop and gym bag, lunch, purse, etc. on the passenger side seat, it has either been heavy enough to fool the car into thinking it was a passenger, or light enough to not upset the sensor. I would never have thought that the laptop was causing the problem since I've been putting it and other objects on my front seat since I got the car.
Thanks for the tip, though. It's good to know what's going on!
...and no, moving to a warmer climate is not an option right now.
Has anyone had any experiences with these items? I did not see any previous posts? He said he wondered if the ducts might be leaking/disconnected or if there might be flow diverters not working right.
My CDs are also somewhat warm after being in the player a long time, and I have to eject a casette and flip it over to play the second side.
As to the floor vents, it's also blowing air to the rear seat floor through vents under the front seats. I've driven cars that had greater flow on the front seat floor vents, but the CR-V was the first that also had rear seat floor vents.
I have not drug out a tape to test it on my CRV yet.
I've had to do it myself.
Today was the third time I went to the dealership for the same problem. Here is
what I learned.
1) Front-wheel drive cars will experience (to different degrees) what is called
torque steer. One of the drive shafts is longer than the other and therefore
will have what is effectively a different response when a lot of power is
applied to the drive train. I argued that all front-wheel drive vehicles I have
owned in the past never had this much pull during acceleration. I believe that
there is a mechanism which is supposed to counter this reaction but I believe
that a poor design leaves the result less tan appreciable.
2) At coasting speeds anywhere from 25mph to 70mph, my car pulls to the right.
It always pulls to the right. The Honda dealership gave me an internal document
"Drifting and Pulling at Highway Speeds" which suggests that a drift to an
adjacent lane in more than 6 seconds is acceptable. Mine drifts in 7-10 seconds.
I intend to continue disputing this issue with Honda as it is highly
unacceptable to me. I have never owned a car which operated in this way.
asked the service manager and the service director, "Would you pay for this?
Would you feel safe in this car? You don't see any real issues here?" The answer
to all of these questions was, "Yes. Yes. No." I about fell out of my chair. I
really want to start an email thread if any of you are interested. There MUST be
a design flaw in the 2005 CR-V and taking to this to Honda as a group instead of
individuals might result in a better outcome for all of us.
Previous years of the CR-V had the same problem, although I wouldn't describe it as a design flaw, since it does not show up in every CR-V (nor even, seemingly, a majority). Because the dealer isn't willing to deal with the problem contact Honda directly. The contact information is in the back of your Owners Manual.
I don't believe doing the group thing will help much, if it at all. Honda is going to deal with each complaint as a separate instance. If they hear enough about it they may issue a TSB to the dealers, but they are going to deal with the owners on an individual basis.
JM2C
Dealer adjusted alignment but it still pulled to right.
Dealer switched front tires but it pulls to the right somewhat still.
Looking at the car from the rear while in my garage today, it appears that the car is not level, 5/8 inch lower on the passenger side. I have not talked to the dealer about this yet, but plan to do so.
Does anyone else have an un-level CRV?
I don't think my CRV is un-level ... but otherwise it has the same problems as yours (I have a FWD LX).
Here are some quick updates:
1) As the car is "breaking in" (now at 900 miles or so) the problem is getting WORSE. If I set it on level ground, put it in drive, and take my foot off the break (i.e. I DON'T press the accelerator at all) the car still hooks off to the right. This really shoots holes in the "torque steer" excuse.
2) On the bright side of things, I got a call from American Honda over the holidays and they told me that they think they have a mechanical fix for the problem. The car has already had the tires switched and an alignment done (neither accomplished anything). I'll let y'all know what this new fix is and whether it works.
Has anyone experienced this problem? Do you know if it is something to be expected from Honda?
Thanks for any info!
We had a '97 CR-V that pulled right when the car was delivered. The dealer tried various combinations of tire rotation which eliminated probably about 95% of the problem. The other 5% I couldn't tell for sure because the CR-V's steering was so loosey-goosey.
Mine makes the identical sound: a faint electro-mechanical "clunk" as I first pull forward after engine start. Anybody have an explanation for this?
Is this documented anywhere? I don't remember seeing it in the owner's manual.
I assume you mean the dealer when you say "They say it's normal."
It's not normal and it can be fixed. Have you tried contacting Honda directly? The contact information is in the back of the Owners Manual.
Good luck.
To anyone who is struggling with a CRV "pulling" problem, I thought I'd post an update on my experience.
1) Like so many others, I was told by the dealership AND Honda Tech that this pulling was "normal". I refused to accept this, and kept after Honda customer relations. They've subsequently agreed to try to fix the problem (moral of the story ... keep after 'em!).
2) My original dealership (Duthler Honda, Grand Rapids, MI) cross rotated the tires and did an alignment before giving up and refusing to do any more work. Neither of these things helped the pull. A tech at another dealership (Crown Motors, Holland, MI) adjusted the camber by replacing a bolt with one of a different size.
THIS HAS PARTIALLY FIXED THE PROBLEM! The vehicle now rolls perfectly straight when not under acceleration (whereas previously it veered substantially to the right).
Unfortunately, this has NOT fixed the pull on acceleration. The car continues to jump to the right under even modest acceleration.
The dealership is continuing to work on this ... I'll keep you all posted.
But the overall moral of the story is this:
DO NOT accept "it's normal" from the dealership. Call Honda customer relations and insist that they fix it.
I've got a 2004 CRV EX with auto transmission. I've pulled a small trailer with it a few times. The trailer is a single enclosed trailer, total weight about 1000#.
On the few short trips that I've taken it on, I tend to notice that the transmission smells warm. This tend to make me worry about how well it will hold up to this kind of service in the long run.
Any experiences with pulling a trailer with a CRV?
Thanks
The irony of this whole ordeal is that my wife and I said to ourselves that when we sold our VW Passat, we would go for Toyota or Honda because of their excellent quality and reputation. Well....I guess next time it will have to be Toyota. Incidentally, I am on my second Toyota truck after the first one was sold at 14 years old and 200k miles. That truck and the Tacoma I have now are great products.
Please keep us all posted on what Honda does for you. Has Honda fixed your CR-V yet?
Tom
What does warm smell like? I know on certain towing packages, there are transmission coolers. I wouldn't recommend anything more than light, I mean very light, towing with any 4 cyl.
How much did you have in your trailer?
Not yet ... they tried switching the front wheels to a different set but that didn't make any difference.
Honda is sending a field engineer to look at the car and advise ... I'll keep you posted.
Bottom line so far:
1) Cross rotating tires didn't do anything.
2) Adjusting the alignment didn't do anything.
3) Replacing the front wheels didn't do anything.
4) Adjusting the camber fixed the pull when the car is rolling, but didn't fix the pull under acceleration.
I assume that steering system is not affected by engine or transmission or electronics.
Is it possible that your left front wheel is spinning a bit faster than the right?
Is it possible that AWD (automatic) is somehow contribute to your problem?
Please, keep us posted.
The problem you described is exactly what I experienced over the last month or so but was erroneously told it had to do with the throttle motor which was replaced this week(check engine light). When the replaced part did nothing to the "lurching" you desribed I went back to the dealer. Of course they indicated at first that they didn't "feel it" or notice it but then they had no choice, it was obvious. They are checking it again in a few days when it is cold to assess further. I do think they will have to repair with a new transmission also. How id your vehicle performing now? Did it take long, did they provide a loaner for the duration of the repair? And what part of the country do you live in? I'm in the Northeast....
The dealer confirmed that this lurching was problem a result of the throttle motor and other parts needing to be replaced, however, the problem still existed.
Today the dealer verified that there is a downshifting problem between 2nd and 1st gear and will need to take another, longer look to diagnose further, etc. I am curious if this is a more widespread concern or just isolated. I have no other mechainical concerns other than window motors replaced. Eager to hear from any of you. Thanks...
I have 2003 V. it was running ok and it still does but after about 20 min driving I can smell something burning on back of the passenger side. It's not exhausts and I don't see any leakage.
It seems smell coming from the wheel but I don't know what could it be.
Is any body having similar problem?
Thanks.
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The Accord 2003-2005 Service Bulletin for similar problem is #03-036 dated September 23, 2003.
Ask your dealer to print out this TSB and review with him and compare this service record to your vehicle for similarity.
Not sure if the CRV has the same subframe but felt this might be useful, diagrams and procedures are part of the TSB.
Please let the forum know if this was useful.