Honda CR-V Maintenance and Repair

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  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    Hey, all you 2000 CR-V owners. Has your CR-V started to stall, run roughly, even with low mileage? Does the dealer give you all sorts of solutions to the problem except the real one?? Just had an experience in the Nevada desert, miles from nowhere. Engine started running roughly, check engine light came on, then would not idle at all and would not start (car has only 45,000 miles). After some investigation and the help of a Honda mechanic with 20 years of experience found out that 1999-2001 CR-V engines were manufactured with very TIGHT cylinders and that they needed to be adjusted after the first 35-40,000 miles, not the suggested 105,000 miles. Unfortunately for me, had to have the cylinder heads replaced. I did make a deal with American Honda for 25% of the total cost as the car was out of warranty but also found out that the dealer did not have to pay for any of the parts needed for the repair and that American Honda picked up all of the cost. This is the biggest repair scam on the books. Jason Banks at American Honda Customer Service says "Honda has to make some profit on this, don't we?" , even though this is a manufacturing defect. Then he said that I should have purchased the extended warranty and when I asked why do I need a warranty when this type of maintenance wasn't even suggested for 105,000 miles? Didn't have an answer. If there is anyone out there who has had to have the cylinder heads replaced on their CR-V before 105,000 miles, take American Honda to task or take them to court. The courts do not look favorably upon auto manufacturers who have built-in repairs that happen just after the warranty expires, trust me. I've had success with the courts when it comes to this matter.

    More persistent people got the whole thing covered by Honda, even out of warranty and at 90,000 miles. Honda knows about the manual "defect" and is willing to cover these repairs on case by case basis.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    Thanks to all of you for discussion compressor problems - mine literally blew up this morning. I have a 2000 with 78K miles on it. A mechanic friend is going to replace it for me so I'll get a good deal, but now I'll make sure he gives me a bill so I can push back on Honda for at least a partial compensation.

    IF you want Honda to cover it, take it to the dealer, then call Honda corporate and be persistent. They have covered other people. How much they cover will depend on your negotiating skills.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    We purchased a 2000 CRV SE within the past 2 months and the battery wend dead yesterday. After replacing it I found out that the audio system doesn't work (CD,/tape/radio) and the keyless entry also doesn't work. I read the owner's manual to find out that I need a special 5-digit security "code" that came with the vehicle (new). I've contacted the dealership where we purchased the CRV about the card. The manual also says I need the serial number of the audio system. Do any of you know where this serial number is - will it require removing the CD,/tape/radio system to find this number?? Thanks! George

    I don't think keyless entry is related to the battery. 1996-1998 Honda Civic EX had the keyless entry in the stock radio. Honda stopped that practice in 1999.

    You options to get the code are:
    1) Contact the original selling dealer, sometimes they maintan a database based on the VIN number.
    2) Contact the original owner, they may still have the card.
    3) Look in the owner's manual, if the previous owner read it, there is a spot to record the security code.
    4) Open the glove box and look for a sticker on the sides, or in the fuse compartment. Sometimes dealerships place a second sticker there, for when the techs work on the cars.
    5) You will have to remove the radio and get the serial number off the back of it. Give it to your dealer, they will provide you with the security code for FREE, with proff of ownership. The removal of the radio on Gen 1 is a very involved process and requires tearing the whole center console apart. The instructions are available on the net, HandA, this site sponsor has them.
  • sky23213sky23213 Member Posts: 300
    Thanks blueiedgod! It was a radiator hose not sealed well. Was in and out in about two hours. AparentlyI missed the fact about the blue antifreeze, usually read your, varmint's and kfdyx's post very thouroughly before I ask. But thanks again for your time!
  • barbinkcbarbinkc Member Posts: 22
    Or what's even worse is when they buy a full-size SUV that gets 9 miles to the gallon and has 4WD capability (you need a ladder to get into these things, I know because my brother has one, however, he DOES go offroading with it all the time since he's an avid hunter and also uses it for some pretty heavy duty hauling) and use it to drive to work and back. At that point you know it's a status thing ...
  • butterdabutterda Member Posts: 2
    I have a 97 CR-V and am having problems with my keyless entry. I have to press the unlock button about 7 times before the door opens. I changed the battery on the key ring about a week ago, but the problem is worse than before. What's my next course of action?

    Thanks,
    Dorey
  • epm1epm1 Member Posts: 32
    When my 02 compressor blew up( I have a piece of it in my pocket for "show and tell")dealer told me out of warranty $3000- independent shop said $1300. American Honda Co. orig. said they would pay independent shop but I would have to sign a release-no further claims, no parts warranty. Later said they would only pay for the compressor & labor to install just it. Asked twice for them to send release so I could review- I never got it. Their word apparently is not good enough to put in writing to you- they would rather keep things confused. Offer now is get fixed at dealer where AHC cost is about $1600 and I pay 50% of that. They also paid for dealer diagnosis/estimate. While I expect items to wear out I do not expect them to explode. I also understand depreciation/betterment- but a new compressor in a used car does not add any value to it. I was advised if I were a better customer AHC may have paid more- and I was accused of being untruthful and threatening a rep.(i did not)- but that is their opinion.
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Member Posts: 2,882
    Do you hear the door click when you hit the button? Mine started doing that a couple years ago on my '99 CRV. The problem is the latch mechanism on the driver's door is worn out. I have to open mine either with the key or from the inside of the car with my hand.
  • kateekatee Member Posts: 1
    Purchased 2002 CR-V one week today. The next day the light in the shifter squares, in the D went out. It is certified. Dealer telling me I have to pay $100.00 to replace light. Is this true? Also i only got one key, will I have to pay for another key? i am not familiar with rules on certified used cars.
  • barbinkcbarbinkc Member Posts: 22
    AHC just replaced my tranny (that had 75,000 miles on it) in my 98 CRV - luckily it was still under warranty, but they aren't giving me an extension warranty on the new tranny, so basically they're only guaranteeing it for a month. Sounds very similar to your experience. They don't back their product like they used to. Very sad, and I've been driving Hondas for about 20 years ...
  • crv2005crv2005 Member Posts: 1
    I just bought a 2005 CR-V 5 speed ex. I love it except it has intense noise at 3500 RPM. It goes away once you pass that RPM. I've had it in twice to get them to fix it but they can'tt and they say it's normal. That sound is not normal. I'm not sure if this is what you experinced or not.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    Purchased 2002 CR-V one week today. The next day the light in the shifter squares, in the D went out. It is certified. Dealer telling me I have to pay $100.00 to replace light. Is this true? Also i only got one key, will I have to pay for another key? i am not familiar with rules on certified used cars.

    Not sure what the rules of Certified USED are, but NEW Honda's come with two regular keys, two remotes and valet key, and OWNER'S MANUAL. I would expect a certified used to have the same. When you go to trade the car in, they deduct $60 for each missing key and a manual. So, you should have gotten a $180 discount if you have only one key and no OWNER'S MANUAL.

    As far as the light goes, certified used should have come with a warranty. I am not sure if youhave a $100 deductible that they were talking about. But the light itself is a $0.05 piece and does not require too much labor to replace. If you are handy you can do it your self. You would need to remove the lower dash cover (2 screws), gauge bezel (4 clips) and the gague cluster (3 screws). The bulbs are on the back of the cluster.
  • theracoontheracoon Member Posts: 666
    Not sure what the rules of Certified USED are, but NEW Honda's come with two regular keys, two remotes and valet key, and OWNER'S MANUAL.

    I agree with all of what blueiedgod said, except that the remotes only came with the EX models, so if your's is an LX it wouldn't have come with the remotes. As a Honda Certified Used vehicle it should have come with two regular keys and one valet key and an Owners Manual.

    Good luck.
  • butterdabutterda Member Posts: 2
    It clicks when it unlocks... but not it doesn't click when I hit the button... I have to hit it 7 times or so to unlock. I don't mind using the key to get in, I'm just afraid that if the remote ever stops working completely, the alarm will go off one time when I don't put the key in right away, and I won't know how to turn it off manually.
    So I guess that's another question... Time to consult the manual.

    Thanks, Mike,
    Dorey
  • phredphred Member Posts: 1
    "buzzing" noise? Buzzing could be a heat shield. I drive a 1999 CR-V. I went to the dealer and described a "roaring" noise (like a 1960 Austin Healy Sprite) at 2200 RPM when accelerating gently in 2nd or 3rd or going up slight inclines in cruise (really annoying on trips). The service advisor correctly suggested replacing the gasket in the rear spring flex joint in the exhaust system (The engine twists just the right amount, the exhaust leaks just a bit, doesn't work if rev the engine sitting still). The noise is gone.
  • henryclayhenryclay Member Posts: 1
    At the first of the year I purchased a new 2005 Honda AWD CR-V with auto. The CR-V is not the fastest vehicle around, but I purchased the car for fuel economy. The CR-V has around 8,000 miles and I’m experiencing a hesitation or missing out during full acceleration. The hesitation is most noticeable when the A/C is on, but you can still feel the hesitation without the A/C. The first time I put the CR-V in the shop, my Honda dealer said the A/C lost Freon, and therefore the compressor was cycling off and on several times during acceleration. The dealership recharged the A/C and released the car. Approximately one month later I have noticed the problem reoccurring. I returned the CR-V back to the dealer this week and had a service rep drive the vehicle. The service rep stated he felt the hesitation, but added all CR-V’s have this hesitation with the A/C on, as its just “thing with this car.” My question is has anyone else experienced this problem, or has this been addressed in the forum in the past.
  • stevedebistevedebi Member Posts: 4,098
    "he CR-V has around 8,000 miles and I’m experiencing a hesitation or missing out during full acceleration. The hesitation is most noticeable when the A/C is on, but you can still feel the hesitation without the A/C."

    I don't notice any hesitation, but I rarely use full acceleration either.
  • barbinkcbarbinkc Member Posts: 22
    I have a 98 CRV, auto, and I do not have this problem at all. I've never felt my car hesitate, whether the air was on or not.
  • kcreaturekcreature Member Posts: 17
    ...where I can find the date of manufacture? I don't remember the dealer mentioning this. Is it printed somewhere?

    Thanks
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    At the first of the year I purchased a new 2005 Honda AWD CR-V with auto. The CR-V is not the fastest vehicle around, but I purchased the car for fuel economy. The CR-V has around 8,000 miles and I’m experiencing a hesitation or missing out during full acceleration. The hesitation is most noticeable when the A/C is on, but you can still feel the hesitation without the A/C. The first time I put the CR-V in the shop, my Honda dealer said the A/C lost Freon, and therefore the compressor was cycling off and on several times during acceleration. The dealership recharged the A/C and released the car. Approximately one month later I have noticed the problem reoccurring. I returned the CR-V back to the dealer this week and had a service rep drive the vehicle. The service rep stated he felt the hesitation, but added all CR-V’s have this hesitation with the A/C on, as its just “thing with this car.” My question is has anyone else experienced this problem, or has this been addressed in the forum in the past.

    Any small 4 cylinder engine will hesitate with the a/c on. Do you have parking brake on? When was the oil changed? What oil was used? What gas are you buying? Did you ever use a fuel injector cleaner? Did you ever buy gas on an Indian reservation? Do you buy qaulity gas or the cheapest you can find? Do you have allot of stuff in the trunk that can be left in the garage? What is your tires air pressure?
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    ...where I can find the date of manufacture? I don't remember the dealer mentioning this. Is it printed somewhere?

    Thanks


    Joor jamb sticker.
  • mtwagginmtwaggin Member Posts: 3
    I just purchased a 1998 AWD with about 113K on it and will be picking it up on Monday. When I test drove it though I had a hard time initially shifting it out of park and then from nuetral into drive and back again. Shifted it down into second and then had a difficult time getting it back into drive (D4). I've made that a condition of the sale and told them I want it fixed (whatever "it" might be). Was hoping you all could give me some guidance as to what "it" may be or what I should expect them to be doing to it to resolve the problem (other than just "servicing" the transmission - replacing the fluids).

    I will be taking it to my mechanic next week and will have all servicing done (fluids etc and have the basics gone over) so also any suggestions of possible problem areas to make sure to check would be fabulous.

    Thanks in advance! S in MT
  • mafernamaferna Member Posts: 83
    I am curious about the Indian reservation gas...

    Is it different from other gas stations? I drive near Indian reservations fairly often, and it would be good to know why that might be a problem...
  • theracoontheracoon Member Posts: 666
    I will be taking it to my mechanic next week and will have all servicing done (fluids etc and have the basics gone over) so also any suggestions of possible problem areas to make sure to check would be fabulous.

    Make sure the timing belt has been changed. It should have been done at 105,000 miles. If it breaks it will cause considerable ($$$) damage to your engine.
  • acrvacrv Member Posts: 3
    Thanks Edmunds Forum for your info and guidance. After weeks of run around and waiting the air conditioner in my 02 V with 60,000+ mileage has been repaired with AHMc paying 50% of the reduced bill- I think. There still is a discrepancy over the final bill. But the A/C is working again! The clunking noise I had been hearing for months went away when the compressor blew up. I do not hear it with the new compressor yet.
    The dealer was pleasant to deal with- AHMc customer service was anything but. It appears the Dealer is not happy having to do the work for AHMc at “no profit”- AHMc did not appear very happy having to talk to me and I certainly not happy- so I guess this is a “win” for American Honda.
    AHMc has not responded to my request for reimbursement of $740.00 for the replacement of a defective SRS seat back sensor. No one is interested in resolving a ignition switch hot key issue from the day the vehicle was delivered. The best explanation is “it is normal“- or “it is the type of key“-or “it is my imagination“- but I ask everyone I see in parking lots getting in or out of a V and they say their ignition key does not get hot.
    Like VW did in the past it appears Honda is getting away from their heritage and reputation for building quality reliable cars and caring for their customers in order to save a few dollars on manufacturing costs. Once the reputation they have spent years building is tarnished it becomes difficult if not impossible to regain.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    I am curious about the Indian reservation gas...

    Is it different from other gas stations? I drive near Indian reservations fairly often, and it would be good to know why that might be a problem...


    I guess not all indian reservations are created equal. The one by me sells horrible gasoline. My girlfrien'd fuel pump, that was functioning properly, died after filling at the reservation. I had Civic Si at the time, and it would not run as powerfull on reservation gas as it does on Mobil, or even BJ's gas.
  • gerry100gerry100 Member Posts: 100
    Just brought our '03 in for the 20K oil change.

    Dealer said we needed new rotors as the original equipment, warped and corroded.

    Whole job including pads to be done under warranty.

    I've seen earlier posts where the owner was stuck with a cost to turn th erotors.

    Hopefully this means that Honda has ID'ed a material or design problem and is stepping up.

    At least I hope they are not replacing with the same parts.
  • quitodbqquitodbq Member Posts: 1
    I recently bought a 2002 EX from previous owner. There appears to be a short or something in the headlight/key-in-ignition alarm. Maybe 1 out of every 20 times I drive the alarm actually works. Any idea how expensive/difficult it may be to get this fixed?
  • suvshopper4suvshopper4 Member Posts: 1,110
    Reservation gas, if it is no-name, may be the cheapest stuff available, and may be more likely to give you problems.
    I avoid all the no-name stations.
  • karenk1karenk1 Member Posts: 1
    My compressor went after 50,000 miles. I was still in warranty, and it was replaced by Honda. The second compressor blew after another 35,000. However, since the second compressor was under a separate warranty [I was told] but still within my 100,000 car warranty, the Honda repair shop told me that I was out of warranty. I get my 30,000 mile check ups through my local mechanic because there are no local dealerships. Honda told me that since they had no check ups on their file there is nothing they can do for me. I am reporting the issue to Lemon Law. I have heard the story of these compressors going from many people. My mechanic told me that since the compressor is broken, small bits of metal are going through the engine, and ultimately causing a larger problem. I believe that Honda is blowing off a major problem with these compressors.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    No the compressor bits can't enter your car's engine. What he meant was that if one compressor seizes, it contaminates the AC system, and if the AC system isn't cleaned out thoroughly, and all contaminated parts replaced, then this debris will eventually kill the new compressor.
  • romanmromanm Member Posts: 34
    Hi. I have the following maintenance question (hopefully, it doesn’t sound too silly). I bought a new CR-V a couple months ago. I did not drive it a lot, so for my first oil change I will use the time interval (6 months for severe conditions), not the mileage interval (5,000 miles). Is it 6 months from the day I purchased the car, from the day the car was delivered to the dealer (it was sitting on the dealer’s lot for 2 months), or from the day of manufacture??? Thanks!
  • teacherusateacherusa Member Posts: 2
    I am still mourning my having left the most wonderful Honda mechanic on the planet when I moved from Boston to NYC (anybody who lives in the Greater Boston area should check out www.hondarhouse.com for incredible indy service). Can anybody recommend a top-notch independent shop in the Greater NY area that specializes in Honda's? Also, how much should I expect a pre-purchase inspection to run? Much appreciated!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,543
    Every six months from the day you took delivery.... should be plenty, if you don't drive a lot...

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  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    I am still mourning my having left the most wonderful Honda mechanic on the planet when I moved from Boston to NYC (anybody who lives in the Greater Boston area should check out www.hondarhouse.com for incredible indy service). Can anybody recommend a top-notch independent shop in the Greater NY area that specializes in Honda's? Also, how much should I expect a pre-purchase inspection to run? Much appreciated!

    There is a Hondamedic in Rockland county. I haven't used them as I do my own work. But heard that they were good and charged half the hourly labor rate Honda charges. I want to say they are on Rt. 59, or whatever is the route that is perpendicular to I-287 by the Palisades mall. It is north of the mall.
  • coudiebugcoudiebug Member Posts: 26
    I don't have my manual handy but in order to facilitate what I need to do....is it difficult to change the bulb on the front headlights ? I have a 2003 CRV-EX and the driver's side is dead (lo-beam). If I can't get to a Honda dealer, what bulb type and manufacturer would do ?

    Thanks, Coudiebug....
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    I don't have my manual handy but in order to facilitate what I need to do....is it difficult to change the bulb on the front headlights ? I have a 2003 CRV-EX and the driver's side is dead (lo-beam). If I can't get to a Honda dealer, what bulb type and manufacturer would do ?

    Thanks, Coudiebug....


    I believe it is H4 or 9004. You are probably better off looking it up in the manual for the replacement, but it is not difficult. Definatley not worth paying $40 for the dealer to do that.

    You need to squeeze the connector to release it, pull the rubber boot off. Push the spring loaded holder in and out. Take out the bulb. Put the new one same way the old one came out, making sure it is flat and level. Press the spring loaded holder in and up to lock it in. Boot the rubber boot back on and click on the connector.

    Expect to get your hands dirty and greasy. :-)
  • barbinkcbarbinkc Member Posts: 22
    I need some advice. The local dealer replaced my transmission (which was still under warranty) about a month ago. (1998 CRV with 76,000 miles on it) Two weeks after I picked up the car the engine light went on. I had my regular mechanic check it out, and they said the readout was a code 700, transmission, very nonspecific, but they reset it. I called the dealership, told them about the engine light, and they said with it reset they couldn't do anything.

    Engine light came on again 2 days ago. Took it to my mechanic to read the code, which was a code P1706, automatic transaxle, however, I specifically told them not to reset. Is this related to the transmission? The warranty is an extended one on the powertrain, which expires September 1st. It's going back to the dealer on Friday. Should I tell them I know what the code is ahead of time? Also, they're only covering a warranty on the replaced transmission until September 1st, basically they're only guaranteeing it for 6 weeks!

    I've been told by a friend that dealerships don't like you to contact the corporate office (in this case AHC) because they can override whatever the dealership is trying to do (like screw you over, for instance). So I'm wondering, should I be contacting them about the warranty on this replaced transmission, and if so, what is a reasonable warranty for something like this? I'm thinking it should be for at least a year, but now I'm wondering if they didn't just stick another problematic transmission in there thinking it would be out of warranty by the time it acted up. Any advice, or thoughts on this would be appreciated.
  • hopeful1hopeful1 Member Posts: 1
    Our 2002 CRV, purchased used from a Honda dealer about six months ago, also has a hot ignition key after it is removed--I haven't heard of any other CRV owners with this problem, if it is a problem, but will be checking with the dealer soon.
  • vanessa1vanessa1 Member Posts: 1
    I HAVE A HONDA-CR 2002 WITH 39,000 MILES AND A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO MY A/C WENT OUT. I TOOK IT TO THE MECHANIC AND THEY SAID THE COMPRESSOR WAS BROKEN. I COULD NOT BELIEVE THIS, I AM STILL PAYING FOR THIS CAR AND NOW THIS COMES UP. I HAD TO GET A SECOND OPINION FROM ANOTHER MECHANIC AND THEY SAID THE SAME THING. IT WILL COST ME $1,895 TO GET THE WHOLE A./C FUNCTIONING AGAIN. I'M SOOO FURIOUS WITH HONDA. THIS HAS TO BE A FAULTY WITH THE COMPRESSOR AND PARTS THEY ARE PUTTING IN THESE MODELS. I HAVE READ ON OTHER WEBSITES OF THESE COMPRESSORS GOING OUT. THIS IS NOT RIGHT!!! I DID NOT PAY $20,000 FOR A PIECE OF CRAP I HAVE TO KEEP PUTTING MONEY INTO. OF COURSE MY WARRANTY IS DONE. THIS MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH. I THOUGHT HONDA STOOD BY THERE PRODUCTS. APPARENTLY NOT!!!

    VANESSA
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Member Posts: 2,882
    Caps off please, my eyes are killing me.

    Call Honda regional. Others here have done that and Honda regional paid for most of the repair if not all.
  • stevedebistevedebi Member Posts: 4,098
    "Our 2002 CRV, purchased used from a Honda dealer about six months ago, also has a hot ignition key after it is removed--I haven't heard of any other CRV owners with this problem, if it is a problem, but will be checking with the dealer soon."

    My 2003 has had a hot key since day one, no problems so far...
  • theracoontheracoon Member Posts: 666
    Who is your extended warranty through? Is it a HondaCare warranty? You should have received paperwork for your extended warranty that tells you and gives you contact information. It probably can't hurt to contact Honda directly using the numbers in the back of your Owners Manual, but if the extended warranty isn't HondaCare they won't be able to help you (and might just refer you to HondaCare if it is).

    Good luck.
  • kellyjoneskellyjones Member Posts: 2
    I bought my 2002 CRV Ex new in January 2002 and have two problems with it. It has 52,000 miles on it and has been serviced regularly by the dealer.

    1. During acceleration the engine accelerates smoothly until the VTech tries to kick in. When this happens the engine hesitates :D and continues to do so for about 1,000 RPM's. If I aggressively push my foot to the floor the problem goes away. However, I don't think I should have to give the engine more gas than it needs simply to get it to accelerate properly. It's acting like it can't make up its mind whether I really want it to go or not. Either that or it's fuel starved -- no idea.

    2. Yesterday I heard a loud noise (ka-thunk!) in the engine as I was parking the car at a friends house. :sick: When I left I noticed the air conditioning was no longer working so I figured the AC compressor had failed. So I called the dealer and talked with a service rep. He told me they were three weeks out on repairs so since the car was no longer under warranty, I should just go to another local mechanic if I was in a hurry. Mind you, I live in Hawaii and we're in the middle of August!

    Before proceeding, I decided to do some internet research and thanks to this forum, I realized that I'm not the only one who has had an AC compressor go out around the 50,000 mile mark.

    About an hour into my research though, i received a call from my friend where the problem had occurred. He said he found a car part lying in his driveway and wanted to know if it was mine. So I went and picked it up and started looking where it might fit on my car. Well, it turns out that it's the clutch assembly which goes on the outside of my AC Compressor and the bolt which was sheared off.

    Honestly, I've owned four Honda's and I'm not used to parts falling off of them at 52,000 miles. So I called the service manager at the dealership and explained the problem. I then gently asked if it wouldn't be better if I called Honda America and he agreed that was a better place to start. So I called Honda and the customer service agent stated that the car had to be diagnosed by the dealership. When I explained that the service manager had told me to call he was none to pleased. I then explained that after all my years of working on cars I didn't need someone to diagnose how a compressor clutch assembly came to fall to the ground with a sheared off bolt. He finally agreed to start up a case file and I'm now awaiting a call back from a case manager.

    Any advice at this point would be great. Did the compressor seize up and thus shear the bolt off?

    :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: After hearing the other complaints here, I'm beginning to think this is a defective part which needs to be recalled. Either that or a class action suit by owners of these defective parts seems to be in order.

    Thoughts?

    Again, thanks all for the help -- I would have been stuck with the full bill otherwise. Actually, I still may get stuck with it but I hope not.
  • epm1epm1 Member Posts: 32
    After 3 weeks of discussions and waiting for dealer appointments the a/c system was repaired and AHM paid for 50% of the a/c repairs and AHM paid for the dealer diagnosis/estimate as a "good will" gesture. AHM also reimbursed the cost of replacing the SRS ORDS seat back sensor. While the process was not pleasant and had to do without car due to hot weather for weeks-Honda finally almost did the right thing.
  • kellyjoneskellyjones Member Posts: 2
    My sensor light is on constantly. I've heard there are problems with this but haven't had it diagnosed lately. Anyone know what gives?
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    I HAVE A HONDA-CR 2002 WITH 39,000 MILES AND A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO MY A/C WENT OUT. I TOOK IT TO THE MECHANIC AND THEY SAID THE COMPRESSOR WAS BROKEN. I COULD NOT BELIEVE THIS, I AM STILL PAYING FOR THIS CAR AND NOW THIS COMES UP. I HAD TO GET A SECOND OPINION FROM ANOTHER MECHANIC AND THEY SAID THE SAME THING. IT WILL COST ME $1,895 TO GET THE WHOLE A./C FUNCTIONING AGAIN. I'M SOOO FURIOUS WITH HONDA. THIS HAS TO BE A FAULTY WITH THE COMPRESSOR AND PARTS THEY ARE PUTTING IN THESE MODELS. I HAVE READ ON OTHER WEBSITES OF THESE COMPRESSORS GOING OUT. THIS IS NOT RIGHT!!! I DID NOT PAY $20,000 FOR A PIECE OF CRAP I HAVE TO KEEP PUTTING MONEY INTO. OF COURSE MY WARRANTY IS DONE. THIS MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH. I THOUGHT HONDA STOOD BY THERE PRODUCTS. APPARENTLY NOT!!!

    VANESSA


    A) Learn to type with mixed letters, not CAPS alone. People don't like to be yelled at!
    B) If you read about other people having problems with A/C, you would have also read that Honda has covered the repairs. All you have to do is take it to the dealer, pay the $80 diagnostic charge. Then call Honda Corporate, the number is on the last page of your OWNER'S MANUAL. Honda stands behind its product and will work out a deal with you. If your car has been maintained by the book, Honda will most likely cover the whole thing 100%.
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Member Posts: 2,882
    " After hearing the other complaints here, I'm beginning to think this is a defective part which needs to be recalled. Either that or a class action suit by owners of these defective parts seems to be in order. "

    Just wait on Honda America. They're done the right thing for folks that have posted here, but be persistent with them and the dealer.

    And drop the class action lawsuit stuff as that would only put most of the money in the lawyer's pocket.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    1. During acceleration the engine accelerates smoothly until the VTech tries to kick in. When this happens the engine hesitates and continues to do so for about 1,000 RPM's. If I aggressively push my foot to the floor the problem goes away. However, I don't think I should have to give the engine more gas than it needs simply to get it to accelerate properly. It's acting like it can't make up its mind whether I really want it to go or not. Either that or it's fuel starved -- no idea.

    First off, VTECH is a phone, VTEC is something Honda invented. When you say VTEC is trying to engage what RPM's is this happening at? The i-VTEC you have is not the same old VTEC Honda had on 1991 NSX and through 2000 Civic Si. The i-VTEC is different in a way that there is no one engagement point. Bellow 2200 RPM your engine is in a 12 valve economy mode similar to VTEC-E from 1993 Civic VX. From 2200 RPM to about 5000 RPM you are in full 16 valve mode. From 5000 RPM your lift and duration change to accomodate high RPM operation. Which VTEC mode do you feel the hesitation? People have reported VTEC actuator failing. This could be the answer. IF the VTEC module fails, then your engine goes into "limp mode," the revs are limited to 4000-5000 RPM. Could it be the tranny? Do you have auto or manual?

    2. Yesterday I heard a loud noise (ka-thunk!) in the engine as I was parking the car at a friends house. When I left I noticed the air conditioning was no longer working so I figured the AC compressor had failed. So I called the dealer and talked with a service rep. He told me they were three weeks out on repairs so since the car was no longer under warranty, I should just go to another local mechanic if I was in a hurry. Mind you, I live in Hawaii and we're in the middle of August!

    Honda has covered most poeple's A/c repairs if they had proof of maintenance performed as per owner's manual.

    Any advice at this point would be great. Did the compressor seize up and thus shear the bolt off?

    After hearing the other complaints here, I'm beginning to think this is a defective part which needs to be recalled. Either that or a class action suit by owners of these defective parts seems to be in order.


    Yep, that is what has been happening with A/c compressors. I doubt anyone would win with a class action suit but a sleasy lawyer pocketing millions in settlement fees, while the owner's get a free oil change certificate. Class action suits only benefit the lawyers, not consumers. Honda does cover the repairs on "case by case" method. A recall is onyl done if the item in question is related to safety. A/C is comfort item, and is in no way related to safety. Unless you can prove in court that by sweat beading down in your eyes causes you not to see the read and results in an accident. Chances are the judge will send you to driving school, rather than say that A/C is a saftey item and look like a fool.
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Member Posts: 2,882
    " If your car has been maintained by the book, Honda will most likely cover the whole thing 100%. "

    Why would maintenance have anything to do with a complete compressor failure? There isn't any maintenance on those.
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