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2010 Camry SE V6 (auto)
+ JBL stereo
+ Sports convenience PKG
+ Preferred premium PKG
+ Moonroof
+ Color keyed rear lip spoiler
Its sticker was at $29,314... Is this about as good of a deal as I can get?
I've requested internet prices from other dealers and no one is below $18,600 w/o TTR and including the $1000 toyota rebate they have right now.
Question is - is this the best deal? Anyone deal with Ira - will they negotiate lower than this?
So, I finally just called them....Their reponse, "We will not be beat by price...come on down so we can talk".
Ok...I am not gonna travel 45 minutes out of my way just so you can match a price.
I just went to other dealers told them what quote I got, and lots of them knew I got that quote from boch.
Did you get the quotes from those (Boch, etc) online or go there in person?
find the car you want (they have alot) through their online inventory. Make them an offer through the "make an offer link". Be aggressive, but not something too agressive like 16K. The online guy there is nice and will usually try to reason with you if he cannot take your offer.
I would not do it in person. You either go to boch for one of two reasons:
to over pay or to get a really good deal. They have some pretty sly sales managers there, and some of the sales people just want that big pay check (most online people get paid by volume, not by each sale).
Here is the important part.....
specify that price WITH the financing options you want in the comments section when you make an offer. If you do not...they may bring you in and when you get to signing the papers and say that you cannot do taht price with the financing.
The rest of the dealerships, just do the same, but do not be too agressive until they get in contact with you. They know Boch is close to them, so they will be agressive once you get a quote from boch.
As for Toyota of Acton....yeah...I find that the further you get away from boston and the metrowest area, the higher the prices go. Toyota of Nashua is usually always the highest in terms of pricing. They have a very agressive sales team....and I mean aggressive as in they get the most profit they can and they are not afraid to let you walk out.
Just test drove a 1995 camry LE. (95K mi) Automatic. Looked very clean, regularly maintained. Only problem was "sticky" power mirrors. Aftermarket AM/FM CD and fog lights. Dealer wants $4500 plus tax/tags. Is this too much?
2010 Camry SE V6 (auto)
+ JBL stereo
+ Sports convenience PKG
+ Preferred premium PKG
+ Moonroof
+ Color keyed rear lip spoiler
Its sticker was at $29,314... Is this about as good of a deal as I can get?
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Is that OTD? Which part of California are you in? I am at San Diego and looking for a 2010 Camry.
First it is not easy to compare the OTD prices in different regions in the US because the rebate amount depends on the region. In New England the rebate is $1,000; in the greater NY area and Midwest, the rebate is $1,500. In the gulf states the rebate is $2,000. Therefore, an excellent OTD price in MA may not be a good OTD price in a southern state for the same model and car.
Second the sale's tax varies from state to state.
I believe I got an excellent OTD price: $19,259.50
MSRP: $22,569
sales tax rate : 5%
doc fee: $250
This is a cash purchase without trade-in.
If any one got a better OTD price in MA, please post your numbers.
BTW, I contacted a dealership by phone, which was mentioned in a previous post. Their special price ($17,900) posted on their website only applies to their demo cars with several thousand miles on odometer.
Would you please share the dealership name? I am going to buy a 2009 Camry LE. Last week I went to the herb chambers brookline, but didn't work out.
- Sticker - $29,314
- Invoice -- $26,370
- Paid ----- $26,450 (invoice + $80)
- OTD ----- $29,121
...if you factor in the interest costs of their 3.9% / 60mo financing, the total cost went up an approximate $1,900.
simonliu315, I live in Burbank but purchased in North Bakersfield. Apparently the SoCal "district" is from San Diego to the San Joaquin Valley.
I believe the most important is the strategy you play during negotiation. If you say something like: “my friend bought a 2009 Camry LE Auto from the XYZ dealer with the OTD price of $19,260,” they will not believe you. Here is how I did:
1. I went to a dealership with a lot of printouts from Internet/email and a calculator, showing I did a thorough research.
2. I proved (showed them with evidence) that I could buy a 2009 Camry LE Auto (MSRP: $22,569) from the XYZ dealer with price of $18,000 before TTL and doc fee, and asked them to match the price.
3. The obvious question they asked was: Why didn’t you buy one from the XYZ?” I answered: “The XYZ dealership does not have a camry LE Auto with the combination of the exterior and interior colors I want to buy.”
4. They showed me a paper sheet, and told they would lose money if they offered $18,000 before TTL/doc. But I insisted and gave them the impression that I would leave if I did not get such a price. I showed them I was sincere and ready to buy one immediately.
5. After about 15-minute intensive negotiation, they finally agreed my price of $18,000 before TTL/doc.
I gained a lot of tips from Edmuds.com’s forums, and hope other buyers can share their buying experience as well.
car price : 16800
sales tax 7%
doc fees 599
OTD price is : 18,700
Unethical practices of the Southeast Toyota region has decided to hide the incentive increase on May 19th from $1000 to $2000. I have confirmed with SouthEast dealers that the $2000 is available in the region with no answer to why it hidden by the regional distributor. The fact that I used to work at TMMC, I find this very unethical. I have emailed TMMC's marketing department for an answer why SET has elected to not disclose the incentive increase on May 19th. I think that TMMC should be enforcing the market incentives they advertise and not take a benign attitude towards indecent practices and non-disclosures. I will report back TMMC's response or lack of soon.
To the poster above, you got a nice price.
FYI, here's the email and phone script I used to contact dealers:
http://www.realcartips.com/articles/carbuying/how-to-buy-a-new-car.html
SR -- Sunroof Package
EJ -- JBL AM/FM CD Changer w/8 Speakers
QB -- Sport Convenience Package
RF -- Rear Spoiler
CF -- Carpet Floor/Trunk Mat Set
The MSRP was 28,800, the sale price including the 2k rebate was 23,895 + 55 doc fee + TTL. Another dealer called me while I was signing the papers with a 23,775 deal, so there is a few more $$ to play with here, probably down to 23,500 or so. I put 6,000 down + 2,000 rebate for total equity of 8,000. I financed the rest at 5.00% (5.75% - 0.5% for equity - 0.25% TFS Encore program). My credit score is 800+. At this dealership (Toyota of Hollywood, CA) they had only one with this config, but there are a few more around SoCal if one searches their inventory (tedious, but worth it.)
Now I need to sell my well taken care of 2002 Camry V6 SE in white, exactly the same config as the new one. Anyone interested?
Can you share the dealership information with me?
I am planing to buy Camry LE Auto at Atlanta, GA.
It would be appreciated.
Thanks,
CF - Mats
A1 - Alloy wheels
P4 - Vehicle Shield Package
ET - Etch
L2 - Leather
TI - Window Tint
There are a couple of other nonessential addons, but those are the material ones. The MSRP is $26,854 and they are offering $21,459 + TTL (includes destination charge already, but does not include tax, title and license). The Gulf States manuf rebate is $2000 currently for the 09 camry's. I am not doing a trade-in and will not be financing it through Toyota (taking the $2k instead).
Any thoughts on the quote or any other DFW people that have similar quotes. Helpful if you post all of the information above so people from different areas can use the info. I've read a lot of the posts on this forum and they could be more helpful if more information were included. Let me know if you are missing any information from my post that would help you.
2010 Camry LE Automatic, no options added
(BASE 21,900 MSRP + $775 Dest charge) = $22,675 MSRP.
Paid $23,000 Out the door
Base Price with Destination charge came to $21,000 even.
Rest is FL Dealer fee, TAX, TAG, Title Transfer.
What do the rest of you think?
They were so STUBBORN and did not want to budge any more at all on all models.
STUBBORN OUT THE DOOR PRICES IN N. Florida:
2009 Camry LE AUTO no options $20,700 (is $18,900 base including dest charge)
2010 Camry SE AUTO with leather package and sports package/sunroof ~ $26,500 OTD.
NOTE: 2009 Camry and 2010 Camry Engines are different. Some 09 Engines are made in japan, but some in America (mostly). With the 2010 it seemed both engine and transmission are made in Japan. Oddly even with the 2010 having both engine and transmission made in Japan, the foreign parts is 20% from japan where the 09 is 25% from Japan (????)
I used to work at the plant and found this odd. The serpentine belt was really thin on the 10 and there seemed to be a transmission filter on it too. I noticed also that the LE's engine on 09/10 sounded quieter over the 09 SE.
I didn't take it. Thought it was too high.
Vandergriff Toyota has on their Website 2009 LE automatic for $18,472.00. Don't know if it for real.
Found most dealers amazingly stiil not wanting to do honest deals, they want to jump through the same old hoops, the dog & pony show.
Maybe Vendergriff will be for real??
I'll visit in the next couple fo days to look at their selection.
The offer is on their splash screen at: http://vandergrifftoyota.com/Default.aspx
As I said I haven't actually visited the dealership yet.
So I am not holding my breath.
I leased a '07 Camry SE in June 2006 for 48 mths w/ 15K per yr. I am within 5K miles of the limit even though I have one more year to go on the lease. I want to lease another Camry when this one is finished, but wanted to see what people out there thought. What should I do? I don't want to pay the overage in mileage. I checked w my local dealer and they didn't want to do anything, basically they just took the remaining payments I have left and priced it out in addition to a lease pymt w a new Camry and it was well over $600/mth. Anyone have any suggestions???
Take the 5 months of lease charges x 300 per month (an assumed old lease charge) = 1500 of money that is getting dumped into the new lease as extra cost. That 1500 ought to be in the neighborhood of an extra 40-50 per month (assuming 36 months at 10% interest).
So that means they are charging you 550 per month for you new camry, which is crazy outrageous.
You better ask them to break down the cost of that lease so you can see the details.
- You know the MSRP of the vehicle, find out the 'cost' of the vehicle (should be somewhere around invoice).
- Understand how much of an additional rebate there is.
- Understand their assumed residual value of the vehicle that they are using in the caclulation, and compare that to what residual % norms are for that year and make and model.
- From a down and dirty perspective, The cost, minus the rebate, minus the residual, plus the loan/lease origination fees, is the amount that you have to finance over the new 3 year lease. Ask them for the interest rate they are charging you on the lease, and you can calculate with a financial calculator what the lease payment should be.
- Find another leasing bank, for competitive pricing.
- Find another dealer
You're paying Lexus like lease payments for a Toyota.
I think it should be 12 months x 300 = 3600.
Only got 2 hours of sleep last night, should go to sleep. Somehow I misread that and thought he said he had 5 months of lease remaining.
You are correct, with 12 months of lease charges remaining, that's 12 months x whatever the monthly lease charges are (assumed for illustrative purposes to be 300 / month).
$3600 rolled into a new lease, would be in the neighborhood of about 115 per month (assumed 10% interest), of the proposed 600 per month new lease. These are only rough estimates, don't know what the interest rate they're charging you is, nor know what the old monthly lease charges are, or whether there are any other charges buried into the contract language.
I was really excited to find a 2010 Toyota Camry 3.5L Automatic LE V62010 Toyota Camry 3.5L Automatic LE V6 trim in Classic Silver Metallic brand nes for only $25,570!!! That's just about $1500 more than you paid for a 2009 just a few days ago... I think this sounds like a pretty sweet deal.
We had a good experience at World Toyota too. This was not the case at another Toyota dealer in North Atlanta.
The V6 is an absolute animal....Wow! Great transmission and ride too. I am very impressed. The black interior will turn out to be high maintenance cleaning wise, but I can't say enough how well this car rides. It makes my 2002 SE V6 seem flimsy. Those that complain about how the interior is poorer, are really missing the BIG improvements everywhere else. I have no regrets whatsoever. Very good value for money.
Those fools in their BMW's are car rich and cash poor. I will hold a moment of silence for them...
Thanks
Thanks.