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No haggle pricing, and great people to deal with. We've gotten 3 cars now from there (or will have within a month when my car comes in)
An extra $295 for additional 25K miles seems overpriced.
That's probably the most important time period of the warranty. Few cars have problems under 75,000. Remember too that the "first" $585 of the warranty only covers 39,000 miles (as the basic warranty covers the first 36,000 miles.
Best price so far is $20,646 before tax, title. However, they will add a "tags and fees" at $194.
Decided to try an 07 Accord. They had an SE at MSRP $22,220 and will sell for $20,687 plus tax and title. Honda does not show administrative fees but I'm sure they are hidden in there somewhere. Are either of these in the ballpark? I just want to be treated fairly while the dealer makes a fair profit. I read that females don't usually get as good of a deal as a male and I don't want to be in that position!! Thanks
Check their website and threaten to fly there, buy and drive home to get a better price.
Wrong!!!! I am reading this for quite some time. If you do your homework and know how to talk, it should not be a problem. All the price you got is really high. I got $400 over invoice for a camry and $300 over invoice for accord. you need to show that you basically do not need the car desperately. Also, ask for quotes in he internet.
just an example: the first day the accord 07 came to a big dealer in NY, I was there. the MSRP was 22200. I asked the price. he said 22200. I said "I do not have much time to talk bogus. what's your final price? If you give a good price, I will be back tomorrow (close to 8 pm on that day) otherwise will go to other dealers." He looked at me and said I have just one car now. Well, I can give you for 21000. so that was the starting.
Hope it helps.
I like your car buying strategy. What I've always done, a trick that my parents and their friends had taught me, since we don't have the time nor desire to 'negotiate' prices are to just fax six or seven different dealerships, tell them you're going to buy a car, what trim, features, colours, etc. in two/three days, don't have the time so you're faxing several other dealerships too, and fax back your best price. Since they all want their commission, each dealer will fax you their 'best' price. Pick the lowest one, contact them and go buy the car. The last time I did this, 3 of the dealerships were calling each other trying to beat each other.
Toyota camry
first went to prestige toyota..the sales guy wanted to sell the car right away. Asked for the price, 21279 MSRP for camry LE, he said that it is a hot car, so as we called ahead and came on right time (what a stupid excuse!!!)he said give us $500 off the MSRP. that's the max.came out of that dealership. Next toyota of hackensack, as you all know I ordered the car there, people were comparitively nice, got $400 above invoice price. Another trick I did there, I said I have Costco, BJS and AAA card, which one will be cheaper program? actually I had only AAA. AAA came cheapest, it is fixed 3% above invoice. which came about $581. I said "you need to go lower, if you want me to order the car today". he chopped off ~200, and it was 400 above invoice. I told him "still I am not happy with this price, I think $200 above invoice will be good" He talked to his boss, said that they can not go lower, but can give 3 oil change free, which is about $100. Then I test drove the car and told him that I will come back on monday after deciding on options. He was little upset, but I said "look, I am extremely busy, and I do not have time to go to other dealership. when I come back on monday, I certainly not expecting any price adjustment". He agreed. I went there monday, finalized the deal, ordered the car. The car came after 2 weeks with my name on the window, BUT sad...I had to cancel the order due the confusion and issues raised in this forum about the transmisson.
Honda Accord SE 2007
The wrote about Rockland Honda in my previous post. I did not go there. I am still quite upset about the camry deal, so tried internet price negotiation. I called Mahwah honda, they said 22200 is the MSRP. same answer from me "no time for this, what's the real price?" he said 20800. what's the inv? 20089. I said it is too much. He told me to come down and he will go lower with the price.
next, emailed paramus honda. They emailed back with 21500 as the final price. I wrote a nice email that "I already got a price of 20500 from Mahwah honda (though I did not quite get that). I decided to buy from them. So thanks for replying". He instantly emailed and said he will give me lower price than that.So if I go there ever, I will get atleast 20400, which is 300 above invoice.
SO, all these, being a woman!!! Gender bias is in peoples mind, so chop it off from mind. :shades:
DRJAMES, I did not buy anything yet. I still want to buy Camry, if they fix the problem. :mad:
Dealers in CT are asking for
SE V6 Fully Loaded - leather,nav,vsc,sunroof,jbl
12,000 Miles
36 Months
Down - 3000/4000
$460/$434
Residual -- 17000
Sammya_md, can you recommend someone at fitzgerald ?
Anyways, not to put down the Accord, it's a solid car, but if you didn't know, the 'complete' redesign of the Accord is due out next summer/fall. So, unless you love everything about the current model, you might choose to wait and see what they come up with. That said, any new model seems to have a greater chance of having some issues, as you have read, even the automotive equivalent of Jesus, the Camry, lol, has had some problems... thankfully it doesn't seem to prevalent.
I'll agree that you need to be well informed, but I have also observed that females just don't get the respect, even when they have done their homework and know what a decent deal is. I have went with my daughter, my mother and friends to negotiate deals and they always went better when I go along. I think the mentality of many salesMEN is that "she'll come back at my price".
You always have to be willing to walk away. Unless you've established a good relationship with a saleperson over time (difficult to do unless you buy as many cars as I have) you will have to walk away at least once and come back later with figures from other dealers on the same car AND with figures on competing cars (letting them know you are not locked in on this car). My daughter gets so excited about a new car that when we see one she wants she'll grin and start saying I gotta have that, I love it! I love cars but for her it seems to be a more emotional decision. YOU CAN'T let a sales person see that!
Go armed with invoice and demand a reasonalble dealer profit (approx 500 over invoice on a typical car).
If you're satisfied with a domestic make NEVER buy until there are rebates and low interest financing. Until they prove they are not going to continue that practice don't believe them when they tell you we're not doing that anymore. They will do it. Wait and be patient. (Toyota seldom does that but even they ave some good deals right now on rebates and interest.
They got the car in that I had my eye on and I found out on their website that it is a Japanese made car--not assembled in Kentucky. The price is not right and they act like they won't budge. Also, I'm still torn between taking a chance on the Camry with the possible tranny problems and the Accord which will change body styles in '08.
click on my username and shoot me an email. I can recommend a someone there for you, who I went through with my car. As far as the financing, I wouldn't have the slightest clue, perhaps posting in the camry leasing forums or seaching online for a lease calculator of some sort.
I will get back to you ASAP. As I said before, if they don't have one on the lot, they can order you one and are more than happy to do that (my experience).
Probably true, but what several dealers are doing is adding advertising fees and other items to the factory invoice and telling you that is their invoice. That's fine that they want to charge for this and call it a cost but if it's not on the factory invoice it's not part of the invoice.
I've never in my area had a problem matching up the edmunds and kbb invoices with the dealer invoice.
Bottom line, I trust few salesmen and don't like dealing with those that are arrogant and condescinding. I don't need their car near as bad as most of them need a sale.
Some dealers want to make more than $500 and they simply add it on the invoice, or some like we've found on this forum do sneaker things like increas the document fees and thus it's added in after you have made the deal and doesn't really relate to the negotiation of the price. That was a new one for me reading here. Mt document fee was $99 but some on this site have seen fees in the $399 range. That's simply hidden profit for the dealer.
I can live with a dealer wanting to make more but I would like for them to be honest and simply say we sell for $1000 over invoice. The problem is if they do that and then next guy actually sells at $500 over invoice then they can't compete. So the simply sell at $500 over invoice and find ways to hid the additional profit.
When you compare prices you need to compare the total cost of purchase.
While that may be true that is one area where edmunds is not always right. Not sure how they could be though. Too many dealers even in the same area are willing to discount when others are going for MSRP. I'm not sure how they can tell you the True Market Value, especially on "hot" cars.
I know when I bought my Infiniti FX45 they were really discounting the ones without the technology package ($7200 discount) but the loaded ones were going for close to MSRP and the TMV was close to MSRP. I beat that by $7200.
However I've always found the invoice to be accurate.
I have a hybrid and that's probably the only reason I bought a Toyota, even though I've owned several. I was looking for "ultra" high FE.
If I was simply seeking a "normal" family car or commuter I would be just as interested in the Honda as the Camry. Assuming you "need" a 4 door sedan then those two medium priced cars would probably be my choice.
For higher dollars though I would look at the Infiniti G35, the BMW 328, the Lexus ES350, the Lexus IS350 (probably my first choice).
My friend has a Hyundai Sonata and loves it, I'm just not sold yet and I understand they are not getting the milage expected (although not far off).
This is my first "value" priced car for quite a while and I'm really happy with my TCH and don't miss the sport or luxury as much as I thought I would. I guess I'm tight enough I now enjoy saving money as I get closer to retirement age.
don't buy those used camrys...they MUST be the ones with problems.
About the used ones - I would not buy one of those on a bet. They probably are the problem ones or they wouldn't be there. I think Toyota is having manufacturing problems and that is why there appears to be a shortage of Camrys on the lot. I really wanted to buy one but I am now hesitant because of what I have read and what I have seen.
let me mention here that I got a 2007 Camry LE in Sep 05 for an OTD price of $20240.
I used to browse this forum & was trying for almost 2 months, but I never saw anyone get a price as LOW as this. People here are talking about an invoice above $19500, where as after the purchase I feel the actual invoice is very close OR even less than what shown in edmunds.com (around 18328...not sure of exact figure..)
I really tend to think like that because, i got this in Florida where the dealers play with so called 'South East Toyota Fees' which they tell to be around $580.
But when I got my car for 20240 (including tax titel & New tag)....I am surprised that still these guys are making profit...(this is less than the MSRP shown by edmunds which is 20500)
But I did purchase befor the price hike from toyota...now the same dealer is offering the car to my friend with an additional $480.
SO , guys who r looking for 07 Camry LE , be aware that , even with price hiked.....you could get the car for an OTD of $20750 or even less....with the dealer making enough profit.
Thanks
Are there other differences?
Has anyone been able to purchase the Camry for invoice price in southern california?
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no problem ordering it at all, and i can't wait the next couple of weeks!!
I'm planning to buy one this weekend at MSRP.
thought would be nice if I could get one under the MSRP like $500 or something
I did but I have a long relationship of buying with my dealer. I got a loaded TCH which seems to be difficult to find in some areas. There have been a few others getting discounts but not many. Paying MSRP is not a bad thing for the TCH especially if you're getting it in time for the full tax credit. I'll be curious to see just when the demand dies off a little if all dealers start discounting some. May be a couple of years though for demand and supply to balance out, especially if we don't quit bragging about the cars to our friends.
Now that's patience! Willing to wait a year.
With your patience why not just purchase one when they show up on the lot. I see truck loads of Camry's on the interstate every day so I know the factory's shipping them out. Someone will want your deal.
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Right now, it looks to be that demand has actually gone UP. In the DC area, supply has dwindled to virtually nothing even at the biggest dealerships. Many have a waiting list so when a car does come in, it goes right to a pre-arranged buyer.
So, if you want one right now, I think you're going to have a hard time getting it for under MSRP UNLESS Fitzgerald has one. Definitely check. If you are paying MSRP, if I were you I'd refuse to pay a big doc fee and make sure there are no add ons. Fitzmall charges a $99 doc fee and that's it, which was reasonable.