Kia Sorento

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  • mwitt58714mwitt58714 Member Posts: 44
    T/Y FOR THE INFO , IM WAITING FOR DEALER TO EITHER LOCATE OR ...IF I HAVE TO GO AND BUY ONE DIRECT...I WILL SAY THERE IS ALOT OF VERY GOOD INFO HERE IN THIS FORUM...IM FROM JERSEY AND LOOKING FOR EX/WITH LUXURY PACK AND ABS IN INDIGO BLUE W/GREY LEATHER 4X4....CANT WAIT HOPE TO MAKE PURCHASE SOON... THANKS AGAIN ENJOY YOURS
  • mwitt58714mwitt58714 Member Posts: 44
    ? HOW DO YOU SET/TURN THAT SYSTEM ON ....?
  • mikesfmikesf Member Posts: 84
    yelling? Net etiquette is to use upper case characters when you want to YELL! Just wanted to let you know.

    Good luck with your Sorento purchase. Today marks two whole months with the vehicle and I'm still in love.

    Cheers!

    Mike
  • mwitt58714mwitt58714 Member Posts: 44
    sorrrrrrrrrrry....
  • tee333tee333 Member Posts: 20
    does anyone have photos of the sorento?
  • schip1schip1 Member Posts: 97
    Standard headlight switch: position #1 = off, #2 = parking lights, and #3 = headlights on. Sorento switch has a fourth position, which activates the auto headlights.

    Photos: scroll up and read some of the prior posts with links, especially from mikesf. Lots of photos here, on the Web, and on www.kia.com
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    We noticed that the auto headlights don't seem to work well with overcast days. Yesterday was a gray gloomy day very overcast, rainy and in the auto position the lights didn't come on. Checked sensor and no obstructions. I guess that they are not that sensative.
    Question on the door locking. Is this some kind of passive alarm as well. If you lock the Sorento and someone tries to break in does the horn sound. I have to remember to ask service next time if they offer an alarm system. Went to local Circuit City and Best Buy and they don't want to fool around with the car yet as they have no input to install any alarm system in the Sorento. Though they did oogle over the vehicle.
    Right now the only compllaint I have is the power outlets espcially the front one under the ashtray. Very hard to open and awkward for charging adapter to fit. Cigarette light works better. Bought some cheap oversized floor mats that I will cut down to match the Sorentos. With snow and mud in the area just dodn't want the originals to get dirty. Having fun driving this vehicle and so far no problems.
  • schip1schip1 Member Posts: 97
    Glad you're having fun driving your Sorento....as we are!

    The auto headlight sensors in our two cars must be different. Or maybe it's calibrated differently. In our case, sometimes, I think it's overly sensitive! Even on a bright sunny day, if I drive under a continuous series of freeway overpasses, the headlights will come on. On an overcasted morning while driving to work, the driver in front of me gave me the 'finger'. I couldn't figure out what he could possibly be upset with, until I realized that my auto headlights were turing on and off, in response to the ambient light!! In other words, he thought I was flashing my high beams at him!

    I don't think the Sorento comes with any sort of passive alarm system. At least, I don't remember reading about it anywhere in the owner's manual or hearing our salesperson talk about it. I think it simply locks the doors. 'mikesf' has an alarm (with touch sensitive feature) in his Sorento. See if you can contact him for additional info.

    I'm glad you mentioned the tightest of the power outlet under the ashtry. Ours is exactly the same way!! Because the other two outlets are not as tight, I dismissed it as a fluke and thought it would loosen with use. Maybe it's the awkward angle when trying to open that particular outlet?

    Protecting your original car mats, eh? And I thought I babied our Sorento!!
  • mwitt58714mwitt58714 Member Posts: 44
    well here i go the sorento i want ot buy has lux package/load leveling/abs/spoiler/aslo with front hood guard /mud flaps/and those window guards 26404.00$ what ya think people!
  • tee333tee333 Member Posts: 20
    sound like a great price, is that a new york quote?
  • mwitt58714mwitt58714 Member Posts: 44
    its in jersey.. where are you from
  • tee333tee333 Member Posts: 20
    i'm from queens new york, i would appreciate any
    info regarding your dealer.
  • mikesfmikesf Member Posts: 84
    the Canadian model automatically switch on when the park brake is lowered and automatically shut off when you engage the park brake. We have a law obliging auto makers to have the headlights on at all times.

    On another note, I went to the Montreal car show on Saturday and much to my chagrin the fixed up Sorento with the side steps, deflector, etc was not there (my dealer said they had specially prepped it for the show) :-( I got in to a discussion with one of the sales reps and a potential customer regarding the Sorento. He, the customer, thought the Sorento was a nice looking SUV but it was a KIA... sigh.... I was expecting to see more people in the KIA area but Montrealers are gaga over Hondas. There are more CRVs than you can shake a stick at (whatever that old saying means). Some people wouldn't know a good vehicle even if it hit them.
    In any case, I am sooooo glad I got rid of my CRV for the Sorento (not one single regret).
    /rant
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    Is it a law in Canada that the headlights must be on all the time when driving? Is daytime running lights are standard on all cars in Canada?
  • tourmalinetourmaline Member Posts: 5
    My husband and I picked up our new Green/Gray Sorento EX about 10 day ago, and immediately left on a 2,800 mile trip. I'm very happy to say that we didn't have a single problem with the vehicle on the entire trip (not even a squeak or rattle). We spent 17 hours on the road this Saturday, and I was surprised at the lack of soreness in my body after such a long drive. The ride, the seats... everything was comfortable. Gas mileage was good, too. I think we averaged around 20 mpg on the highway.

    I've been following this message board for months, and wanted to say thanks for all of the great information everyone has provided. I've learned a lot about the Sorento and the whole car buying experience from you guys. This is my first time purchasing a new vehicle, and the experience was a lot less painful than I had expected it to be. Thanks for educating me!
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Congratulations! Be sure to stick around and tell us all about your experiences with your new pride and joy!

    tidester, host
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    tourmile - Congratulations! The gas mileage on yours is better than I saw from other Sorento owners. My 93 Accord just got the same 20 mpg in city and slightly better on highway.
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    I thought one was supposed to avoid driving at the same speed for extended periods with a new car. Then again, you said long trip, not extended driving.

    ??
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    So long as you vary the RPMs (no cruise) you can drive it for an extended trip from the dealer.

    -mike
  • mikesfmikesf Member Posts: 84
    Yup! It's the law here. If memory serves correct, all new vehicles since 96 (or 97) have to have daytime running lights.

    Cheers!
  • tourmalinetourmaline Member Posts: 5
    My dealer warned me not to use cruise control during the break in period. Thanks to holiday traffic and construction, we had no problem varying the rpms. (It took us over an hour to travel 5 miles at the TX/LA border.)
  • charlesm1950charlesm1950 Member Posts: 24
    Over the holiday I drove my EX to El Paso from Austin (about 600 miles each way). I was a bit disappointed that I didn't break 20 mpg, but I was going 80 - 85 mph most of the way. I got about 19.5 on Interstate 10. Maybe the mileage is better at 65 mpg, but you can't go that slow in west Texas or you'll be passed by a jack rabbit.
    I love the car. I folded the seats down and put my dog's pillow back there and she slept most of the drive. I found I could put the cargo net between the loops on the floor and the loops the rear seat latch on to to form a barrier to keep cargo from shifting forward. I had to do a hard stop once and I'm sure this kept the dog from getting hit with the suit cases.
    My only complaint is still the unreliable keyless entry system. You can be next to the car or 25 feet away and it doesn't matter. The system may work on the first press or it may take three or four presses to lock or unlock. I've complained to the dealer with no luck and I've emailed Kia customer service with no luck. I think I'm going to have to get real pushy with them to get this fixed.
    CharlesM1950
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    WOW 19.5mpg @ 80-85 is darn good in an SUV!

    Basically most truck-based SUVs anything over 65 and the aerodynmics just aren't there. not only the top-aero but the lower portion too. Because they are higher off the ground there is more air flowing under it as well.

    I'm glad to hear that the Keyless is the only mechanical problem. This could be like the TB or Explorer topics where they have engine and tranny problems or parts falling off the car!

    :)

    -mike
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    Wow! 1200 miles is a long way to go with your ex. It must have been an amicable break.

    P.S. :-)
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    Please tell me how it gets more air under it just because it is higher up.

    The only thing I can think of is the tires would provide more air resistance because they are taller.
  • schip1schip1 Member Posts: 97
    #1065 - tourmaline: I share your feelings about how beneficial this forum has been (and still IS!). I stumbled upon it by accident, when I was desperately searching the Net for info about the Sorento. For me, the biggest benefit has been reading what others have paid for their Sorento, so that when negotiating our purchase, I knew I wasn't being unreasonable. Thanks for sharing your long-drive experience with us. Thus far, I've only used it for commuting :(

    #1072 - charlesm1950: do the lights flash when you press the remote unit? Are you having problems with all the doors or only the passenger doors? The reason why I'm asking is that originally, I thought we also had a problem with our remote entry system, until I read the owner's manual and finally understood that I had to press the remote unit twice (within 2 seconds) to unlock the passenger doors. If yours is really malfunctioning, you may wish to read post #2432 in the KIA Sedona forum, if you haven't already. 'lagavulin' seems to be describing the exact same problem and the solution! Good luck!

    We're only at 2,000 miles and counting....also no problems yet...although ever since someone else mentioned problems with the altimeter, I've paid more attention to it and the readings do seem to be very unrealiable. At sea level (SF Bay), it has read minus 100 ft, zero, 100, and 200. At home, it has read 200, 300, and 3,000!!!
  • brebhbrebh Member Posts: 11
    I did a trip over the holiday with my EX, mostly highway, and got only 16.9 mpg @ 75-80mph. Other than the mileage I love it. It does seem to cruies at a high RPM compared to my old Dakota with a 3.9L-6.
    I've found the same screwy thing happening with the altimiter, I guess it's a good thing we're not flying!
  • carspy01carspy01 Member Posts: 137
    Hey, Charlie, it was good to hear from you again! I missed you but I guess you had waaaay too much fun driving around! schip1 is right - read that post in the Sedona hall. This will work. Take care on every mile of the road, my friend!
  • mikesfmikesf Member Posts: 84
    Just wanted to add that the Sorento has been stellar in the bitter cold we've been getting here (-20 Celsius). The heating system is great and keeps the whole vehicle (not just the front) nice and toasty. :-)
  • doctorautodoctorauto Member Posts: 5
    I happened to be driving the other day and I saw this most absolutely gorgeous SUV! I thought it might be a Lexus but when I slowed down a few times to get a closer look I realized that it looked way better than the RX300 (after all, that Lexus looks quite dated to me now although when it first came out years ago I thought it was gorgeous). Kia designers must be a real artistic bunch. I mean, come on...this has to be the most beautiful SUV ever. I'm sold on it just from its looks.

    I kept staring at it, swiveling my head and all and the lady in the car thought I was checking HER out. Ha ha. Sorry, lady, but your vehicle is a lot more beautiful! Wow!!!
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    The higher up a vehicle is the more airflow and thus lift there is under it. That's why if you look at race cars there is significant amount of air dams, and extended lower cladding that extends down toward the road. The higher Truck based SUVs and lifted ones even more so, will get worse mileage just based on the fact that they are less aerodynamic due to the unstable air flowing under the vehicle.

    -mike
  • jon1102jon1102 Member Posts: 16
    There is a website called carprices.com that allows you to get MSRP and wholesale prices. Does anyone know if wholesale and invoice are the same? I think they are, but I'm not sure.
  • jon1102jon1102 Member Posts: 16
    I thought I had read previous postings in this forum about remote problems so I scrolled back through the postings and found they were listed back in October. The Sedona had the same problems and it was a problem with the receiver not getting a proper ground. Read posting #436 in this forum for a possible resolution which I read about in the Sedona Forum. Hope this helps.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    Correct me if I am wrong. I believe the dealer also add 1% to 3% of the invoice price from the manufactures as a holdback. Some cars don't have holdback. The dealers called this as their own invoice. I looked this Sorento EX 4WD with no option added. Edmunds shows $22300 and the dealer showed me $22800. There is $500 holdback, about 2.5%. The dealers use it to pay for TV & newspaper ads and some basic maintenance of the vehicles. You can't negotiate the holdback. But people just negotiate the overall price. It looks like a pure profit for the dealer who sold their cars within days off the ships.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    The way holdback works is that the dealer gets a % of the MSRP back after the car is sold. The formula to get the "true" dealer invoice IMHO is:

    Invoice Price
    - Holdback (holdback% x MSRP)
    - Factory to dealer incentives
    + Shipping
    = True Dealer Cost

    Then I take True Dealer Cost and add ~$1000 to it and that's what I will pay for the car.

    -mike
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    Some folks seem to have some difficulties when using the keyless remote control. I want to know if this is just a keyless remote or an alarm system. I thought you have to unlock the door first with the remote before you can start the car. What if you just open the door with the key? Will the car start? Or the horn or siren (headlight flash) will on?
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    Question about the leather seats in the Sorento. Are the seats covered entirely in leather or is the top leather and the sides vinyl. I can't get a straight answer from the dealer or service guys they said that they are looking into it. They do know for sure that the backs of the front seats a a heavy vinyl. Also are the inserts in the door panels made of leather. They tend to feel like it. As on many cars that have leather the seat tops or seat inserts tend to be leather and the sides and back are vinyl. Reason is I want to get a good leather conditiner/cleaner and reading some bottle instructions many state not to use on vinyl as it can make the material tacky. Any input out there.
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    You can open the door with the key. One turn to the right opens the driver door and another twist opens all the others. According to my dealer there is no alarm per say in the Sorento. Not sure on this but the sales people metioned that it has a passive type alarm. Meaning if some one starts the car without the key the horn will go off. As of now I cannot find a place (an electronics place)that has an alarm to use with the Sorento because of the special keyfob we have (the button for the rear glass dosen't make it a universal type of fob).
    I did try this though. Seems that I find neat little Sorento tid bits everyday. If you leave the key in the ignition and the motor is off you cannot lock the doors weith the power door lock button on the drivers side. Prevents the vehicle from looking and leaving your keys inside.
  • sorentosorento Member Posts: 4
    It's a "relative altimiter" not a true altimiter. If you hold down and reset it to 0 (which was probably initially sea level), it will then tell you the relative altitude to where you reset it - not the absolute altitude from sea level. Hope that helps on the readings you are all getting.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    Sounds funny. People are having difficult to use this. And this is not a real one. Why they put in it anyway?
  • anonymous02anonymous02 Member Posts: 1,538
    I guess jets are VERY aerodynamic, since they can go so high.


    I don't buy it.

  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    But it's the truth. Ask any automotive engineer. The air going under the vehicle provide LIFT, which means that you have LESS downforce.

    -mike
  • jeepster4jeepster4 Member Posts: 53
    Thinks that aero kits on car and truck bodies are just a fashion statement.
  • PlacemanPlaceman Member Posts: 44
    I use Maguire's Leather cleaner/conditioner and it works well on the leather. I'm not exactly sure which parts of the seats are vinyl/leather.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    member of the Kia family? I agree, the Sorento is probably the BEST looking SUV on the market right now. I saw the first one on the road last weekend heading over the Skagit River bridge in northern Washington state. It was Arctic white and absolutely gorgeous! I'm driving a 2001 Kia Sportage 4x4 now and finding the experience similar to my 1999 Kia Sephia experience. Fantastic! These boys have put excitement back on the road again. Keep us informed if you get one, OK? BTW-keep reading this thread and you'll learn a TON of Sorento stuff. It'll help arm you for Sorento-hunting later!

    2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick

  • schip1schip1 Member Posts: 97
    Mike, I would guess that the majority of the readers of this forum appreciate your contributions. Speaking for myself, I've noticed that your posting are informative and meaningful. At the other end of the spectrum, there are individuals who routinely post here without saying anything (also known as mindless babbling). Common themes in their postings are ridicule (towards others), sarcasm, and arguing for the sole purpose of provocation. I hope that you will not be deterred from continuing to share your experiences and insight.
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    The air going under the vehicle provide LIFT, which means that you have LESS downforce.

    That may very well be true but, to me, it is less than obvious. It would seem to me that if the air beneath the vehicle is moving relative to the vehicle then Bernoulli's principle says the air pressure is reduced - thereby creating a downward force on the vehicle. Please tell us what we are missing.

    Thanks.

    tidester, host
  • schip1schip1 Member Posts: 97
    hciaffa, I haven't read anything stating which sections are leather and which are vinyl. However, I believe I can see and feel the difference in texture. So....IMHO, I think everything is vinyl EXCEPT the seat facings (both the seat cushion and the seat backs).
  • schip1schip1 Member Posts: 97
    Airplanes fly because the shape of their wings enables the application of Bernoulli's principle. The bottom of a wing is relatively flat and smooth. Air passes essentially unobstructed and the pressure on the underside is nearly atmospheric. The top of a wing is raised, causing increased airflow velocity, resulting in reduced pressure, and thus, flight.

    A car is like a wing in that the underside of a car is smooth, relative to the obstruction of the canopy (i.e., driver's compartment). Therefore, if you have airflow under the car, you have lift. That's why spoilers are upside-down wings. They 'push' down on a car, giving it more traction, enabling higher velocities on curves, without loss of control.
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Right! You get lift because the reduction in air pressure on the TOP of the wing is greater than the reduction in pressure on the BOTTOM of the wing.

    The net effect is that you have greater UPWARD force rather than decreased DOWNWARD force as the original post implied (#1135 & 1148).

    Paisan appears to be saying that the cladding would reduce the net lift by keeping the air still underneath the car when Bernoulli implies the opposite. The air pressure underneath will be greatest when the air is still.

    On the other hand, the effect of air turbulence underneath can certainly contribute to drag and I agree this is a good reason to use the cladding.

    tidester, host
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